bill kristol calls rove’s resignation ”odd,” imho, a tremendous understatement… here’s what a commenter at the wapo had to say…
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For one of the most powerful men in the world to walk away from this position in such short order, a mere 18 days, means that there truly is something coming on down the pike. There is about to occur an event or action, which even Rove won’t be a party to. Such a sudden departure, when Bush has such little time left to serve, has President Cheney’s stench all about it. Reading the President’s under-reported directive on establishing martial law and suspending the Constitution; in light of the strengthened Patriot Act and increased domestic surveillance legislation; and the several completed military plans enabling a military take-over of state and local government makes for an alarming future. Why would all this exist if not to be used? All it takes is one incident to make the country willing to trade the Constitution for security. Maybe, this either goes too far for Rove or he’s an impediment to Cheney. This is not a simple resignation.
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i would tend to agree with the thought that something big is coming down the pike, but i wouldn’t venture to speculate on what it might be…

http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/

Thanks Beowulf–one of my most consistently improperly used words.

Jodi: What risk?

Really, what risk?

Bush will pardon Rove, you know that.

Republicans like to say that theirs is the Party of Personal Responsibility, but you know perfectly well that Bush will pardon him.

”…one of the many sheriffs that have him in their sites.”

I love this typo: our kind of sherriff uses websites, not gunsights!

What intrigues me about this is how vulnerable it makes Rove to a congressional supoena — and the use of congress’ power of inherent contempt.

I was hoping that Miers would be cited for inherent contempt, but realize that the visuals of this sweet little old lady being held in jail by Congress would suck. But Rove being arrested by the seargeant at arms and frog marched to the basement of the Congress building? That would not bother anyone…

another appropriate one: in the last line, read ”Bush” for ”but[t]”

Another possibility: Rove will go to work for one of the Republican pygmies, because they will need all the help they can get.

Maybe he’s going to work on someone else’s campaign, or for the Republicans in general.

So none of us believe Rove’s version of why he is leaving. But the media fools are pretending they do.

It can be all of your reasons at once. My guesstimate of causality:

Time with the Family – 15% (even Rove is probably sick of Bush at this point)
Republicans Think He’s a Loser – 0% (always room to recycle losers in politics)
Republicans Think He’s a Loser, Nativist Edition – 30% (GOP hates teh brown)
The Sheriff Is Coming – 55%
(see breakdown below)
a) The Abramoff Investigation – 80% Sheriff (following money is easy for prosecutors)
b) The OSC Investigation – 5% (I don’t see traction)
c) The Iglesias Investigation – 15% (see above + 10% EW bonus, she is smarter than me and probably right)

It figures. They rousted the minder out of bed early to wait and squat on this post.

Jodi, prove that Rummy doesn’t have access to DOD or a desk there yet, or security clearance. And all Rove ever had to do to keep the press from keeping tabs on him (hah, that’s a joke) is act within the bounds of the law. Simple. Works for most Americans.

MT Wheel says: â€â€¦Rove’s marriage has been reputed to be just a front for dalliances with others from both sex.â€

Hmmm….so, why was â€Jeff Guckert/Gannon†in the White House at odd hours and at non-press conference times?

Enquiring minds want to know…

In the corporate board rooms â€more time with the family†is the euphemism for â€fired.†I’m sure Rove will consult with a lot of the GOP campaigns, but I think this confirms Bobo’s point about how radioactive both he and Bush are in the GOP. Karl could not find anyone he thought was high profile enough who would hire†him. That suggests to me that this situation moved faster than Karl could control.

BlueStateRedhead — that was nearly 150 years ago!

With all due respect to Lincoln, white supremacy was legal in the north and south until the Dems passed the the civil rights legislation in the 60’s.

They were even more racist in Lincoln’s era. He may have freed the slaves but I’m sure he endorsed separate but equal.

I’ll posit one other possibility. Even though he’s denying it, I think it is possible he’s leaving to run another Presidential campaign.

I wouldn’t make too much of this. He’s just leaving to help elect the most corrupt Republican Presidential candidate. Which one is the big question.

Well, let’s suppose Congress gets some balls and goes for inherent contempt as a prelude to impeachmnet inquiry. Wouldn’t it be a lot harder to round up characters that are not in DC?

I was told by somebody who might, but probably does not, have an accurate clue that Rove told whomever (georgedick) that Gonzo HAD to go, go soon, and be replaced with a recess appointment, and was told â€no way†by georgedick, so decided the ship was indeed sinking, and bailed. This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor, but interesting.

lizard

That’s possible (and interesting). But I’ve always thought Rove’s partialness to the departure of Gonzales was self-preservation. And it may be too late for that anyway.

Are more resignations due? Bolten’s -If you stay past Labor Day- then stay til the end-sounds like an attept to open the door and sweep away some problems.

I’ve often wondered about possible tension between Dick and Karl. Never heard much about it, but can a man serve 2 masters? Wonder if Karl didn’t go for something, like, say, bombing Iran and Big Dick said – this town not big enough for both of us – or something like that. Time is running out and there is a lot left to do on Big Dick’s list.

FWIW, I think a lot of Republicans are understandably afraid of talking to Karl without a tape recorder.

Thanks EW

and btw, its BLUEstate
not
RedStateRedhead.

but its such a banner day for our ROVE-ing reporter, that typos and misnomers are just a sign of your busy-ness.

as always, in gratitude.

Fair enough point. I was thinking of the current GOP, which has operated on racism since LBJ.

Given:

signing statements
a flaccid MSM
a much more flaccid Democratic congressional opposition
executive orders
a group of Supremes even more radically conservative than the lot behind the 2001 coup d’etat
..and other travesties ad nauseum

I’m inclined to agree with profmarcus – this does appear to have Cheney’s stench all about it.

Whether it’s an attack on Iran, or the 2007 edition of Operation Northwoods, I think we’re all in a heap o’ hurt.

@bluestateredhead:

The Republicans didn’t start out as the party associated with racism and disenfranchisement. They got there due to their reaction to the Civil Rights movement, and their intentional courting of Southern whites, especially during the 1960s. The keyword here is Southern Strategy.

Well, NPR report of Rove’s resignation got this week off to a smashing start. And seeing Jodi as the very first commenter on this thread made me laugh out loud — the idjo has always seemed to have a specifically Rovian stench (chuckle, chuckle

joejoejoe, I’ll see you and I’ll raise you. But my tea leaves line up thus for the moment:

Time with the Family – 0% (Rove wouldn’t willingly give up power even if his liver was being eaten away by cancer)
Republicans Think He’s a Loser – 0% (watch Romney toss $$ around; a few are still clueless)
Republicans Think He’s a Loser, Nativist Edition – 15% (GOP still has a few True Believers, more panicked by the day)
The Sheriff Is Coming – 85% (nothing but terror would compel The Rovian Shitflinger to weaken his grasp on power)

(see breakdown below)
a) The Abramoff Investigation – 50% Sheriff (following money is easy for prosecutors)
b) The OSC Investigation – 5% (I don’t see traction)
c) The Iglesias Investigation – 15% (see above + 10% EW bonus, she is smarter than me and probably right)
d) ADDING — the Seligman investigation – 30% (no doubt about Rove’s role here, and it’s looking like an easy-to-follow thriller in which people won’t even have to pay full attention to grasp the storyline)

And then there is the ominous background hummmmm noted by one commenter about suspension of the Constitution; however, I don’t think Rove would leave for that reason, as he hasn’t given a sh*t about it in the past 30 years, anyway.

EW, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, might I simply say once again that you are a national treasure and I am enormously grateful to you and commenters. Ralston must have made a misstep, and someone(s) else must have gotten pissed at Kkkarl for throwing them under the bus and started chatting with the HJC…? Very jolly ;-))

EW – I hope you’ll ice down a few cold ones and enjoy Rover’s demise.

Considering that your analysis on every point (Every Point!) of substance has shown BushCo to be in the Wrong – despite protestations to the contrary by the Magpies of the Right (nyuk, nyuk) – I wouldn’t be surprised if history ends up showing that your analysis moved the investigatory/prosecutorial ball forward on more than one occasion in these critical days testing the robustness of our democracy.

In some way or other, I have no doubt that your work helped trap the little wiggly bastard under the glass of legal scrutiny – and, today, I am breathing a whole lot easier because I, once again, have faith that the forces for good are prevailing.

Thank you, so much!

That gave me a chuckle. I already had forgotten about you. I’ll bet I am not the only one.

Freepatriot: Wherever you are, I hope the skies are clear and the wind at your back; and for your mother also.

EW (who deserves all the thanks of all of us) says, â€With all due respect to Lincoln, white supremacy was legal in the north and south until the Dems passed the the civil rights legislation in the 60’s. AND loisjohanna writes that â€Lincoln] . . . may have freed the slaves but I’m sure he endorsed separate but equal.â€

Actually, segregation by law didn’t come until the end of the 19th century–a backlash against the equal opportunity all the way doctrine of Lincoln and the Reconstruction Republicans. Democrats, sorry to say, were indeed–in those days–the party of white supremacy.

And if that has any bearing on the present distress, it might be this–that racism can revive–like Phoenix from the ashes– in almost any political environment (maybe doesn’t have to, but, left unchecked, will).

Thanks to Bluestateredhead for keeping the perspective in focus.

â€Jim Crow separation laws thoughout the Southâ€

FWIW, Jim Crow, aka white supremacy, laws were also prevalent in the north which had a far smaller percentage of African Americans.

Also, Northern industries profited greatly from slavery prior to 1865.

Relatively speaking, judged against his peers, FDR was pretty good on civil rights.

Another interesting rumor I picked up (again from a person who MIGHT know, but probably doesn’t) is that the Rove departure is the beginning of an agressive effort by Fielding to â€get in front of†the various DoJ scandals, and that Gonzo well be gone, unwillingly, as soon as they have a nominee for AG that is both completely, scrupulously honest, AND completely in the bag, and they got that last night (with no indication of who this walking dichotomy is) and Fielding launched his plan with Rove’s announced departure (also rumored to be part of the new AG designee’s price). This plan was described to me in primarily military language (getting the innitiative and keeping it, singleminded persuit of a specific goal (no indictments until after Bush’s last, pardon-drenched moments in office) which may give a hint to it’s proponant’s identities. Both rumors I report today were given probably in the hopes of dissemination, and so deserve suspicion. But they are fun to kick around.

ecoast: â€Jeff Gannon or his equivalent took the money and gave up Rove to Flynt.â€

You might be right, ecoast. Maybe it wasn’t Gannon but someone else who gave up Rove to Flynt.

I confess, the scenarios that imagine Rove leaving over investigations closing in on him all appear, to me, to have a fatal flaw: Rove’s WH immunity claims are *much* stronger while he remains at the White House.

The idea, suggested by some above, that Rove is leaving because the BushCheney cabal is planning something that even Rove couldn’t stomach also seems unlikely. I don’t think there is anything that Rove couldn’t stomache. I mean, look at it, his stomache is huge. (That’s not just a fat joke, it’s a metaphor for all the bad-for-the-country shit Rove’s pushed for and gotten away with.)

An unannounced indictment, like Sealed v. Sealed, is another possibility, but a remote one — why wouldn’t it be announced?

That leaves three more options I can think of, in increasing order of likelihood:

1) The PoppyBaker clique finally convinced Junior that Rove is ruining the Republican party and it was time to cut him loose. Seems unlikely though — there’s little doubt that they’ve tried it before, with no success. Why would it work now?

2) Rove objected to a planned initiative (Iran, retaining Gonzalez, whatever) and got fired for it, or for leaking about it.

3) A sex scandal, as ecoast suggested.

Of course, if Flynt is involved, and promised Rove to keep mum if Rove left quietly, we might never hear about it. On the other hand, Flynt may have nothing — remember how, after he outted Livingstone, Flynt played coy, suggested he had more names to follow, but never came though with anything?

Out of all the above, a sex scandal (or the need to attend to an impending divorce) seems the more likely reason for Rove’s departure.

Self serving? What a joke. Jodi the Pot calls the Kettle black.

In other news, the sun came up today.

Karen M. – Paraguay can have him, and the sooner the better.

Don’t know the answer, but iirc, lynchings decreased dramatically after about 1920. The fight against legalized white supremacy is very dynamic, but not well known by most Americans. Again, iirc, people like Strom Thurmond, who were verystrong on segregation (and chain gangs…), tried to hold the line on large numbers of their constituents who wanted Strom to â€look the other way†when they lynched an African American.

JGabriel: Flynt probably does have something.
Furthermore, the only reason Flynt hasn’t died in an airplane accident, or suffered a massive heart attack, is because he probably has explicit instructions to be carried out in the unfortunate event of his untimely demise.

bummer. i tried to put xml-esque â€tinfoil hat†descriptors around my text. It was there when I previewed the text, but magically disappeared from the post.

I suspect, too, that Rove will not represent national clients in ’08. Like the German Army just before the end of the First World War, Rove wants to be able to deny that the final debacle was his doing. But giving up his public employee status allows him to do many things he could not (legally) do from the WH. I also suspect Pappy Bush hates Rove, so I’d be surprised to see Rove represent Jeb in 2012.

I suspect, too, that Rove is running from the law and will do so with every ounce of EP that Shrub can muster. He’s also out to make an eight-figure income as quickly as possible, presumably by resurrecting the GOP after its decimation in ’08. Unless indicted, Rove will probably also become the chief reviewer of the Shrub papers bound for the black hole called the Bush Library.

Several Shrub advsers â€left†the WH while continuing to work with Shrub. That will certainly be true of Rove. Shrub has never spent a political day in his life without KKKarl. As his administration implodes, that’s not likely to start now. The final question, of course, asked by many, is what will Big Dick do now?

notKeith: â€Flynt probably does have something.â€

I think he probably does, too. I just don’t think we can count on it as a sure thing.

So what’s KKKarl’s plan? He never operates without one, and Shrub has never operated without KKKarl. So let’s look at what’s in store for Shrub, first, because he has always been KKKarl’s top client. The tail end of Shrub’s administration will be full of revelations, even greater incompetence and the occasional indictment. Lots of money, goodwill and blood will be lost. Cheney may expand his war; among the dire consequences of doing that, will be the virtual destruction of the GOP.

Post WH, Shrub will become a caricature of Reagan (himself a caricature). He will join the neocon billionaire’s rubber chicken circuit. Book deals will pay for real cattle at the Faux Crawford Ranch or a seaside retreat – possibly in a country with no extradition treaty with the US. His speeches will be many, but even less interesting and truthful if he doesn’t get to keep the micro-earphone once he leaves the WH. Except for investigations and indictments and fights over access to his â€presidential†papers, Shrub will quickly slip into derisive irrelevancy.

KKKarl’s career, more than most, is all about KKKarl. He hasn’t much personal courage and no inclination to be self-sacrificing; he recognizes the political utility of such things, but has always been wily enough to make someone else fall on their sword. So, KKKarl’s departure is to protect KKKarl. He’ll continue to support Shrub – just his leaving must make George feel littler – but give himself political distance from the apocalyptic fall in store for him and the GOP. Shrub will sit out ’08 and arise, Phoenix-like thereafter. Except for the indictments, of course. Which is why Congress and the next president must quickly undo Shrub’s gutting of the presidential records law, and strengthen the public’s rights in those papers.

Cummins was ousted to promote Rove’s opposition research man Griffin against Democrats in Arkansas to cover for Mike Corruptabee and to background faux outrage sacandals against Clinton.

In Little Rock, Diebold subsidiary Sequioa was being charged with voter fraud, and the plea deal let the man doing the kicback scheme walk, who went on to ES&S a company that counts paper ballots in states such as Cali.

The voter fraud software sourced from Dallas, Dubya’s front yard.

Cummins also was about to prosecute a man who is a cross burner, a person previously convicted of hate crimes, a person Cummins knew of and was familiar in prosecuting.

Heavens forbid we let bad news about racism oppose the Karl Rove narrative against ACORN in that election cycle.

Cummins/Griffin/Rove

That’s where you look first. Hate crimes and vote fraud.

Bmaz,
If correct, this would obviously be a high percentage. He survived Abramoff, Plame and DOJ firings. His parting shot was the FISA update, which he essentially acknowledges in the WSJ article should embroil Democrats in an intra-party dispute.

He said he expects Democrats to be divided this fall in the battle over warrantless wiretapping, while the budget battle — and a series of presidential vetoes — should help Republicans gain an edge on spending restraint and taxes.

He is banking on dems to focus on Foreign-Domestic Spying and miss the boat on the true Comey issue. However those calling for Gonzales Special Prosecutor:
Schumer (Comey’s benefactor)
Feinstein, Feingold, and Whitehouse- all on both SJC and SSCI.

I think these guys know about the Domestic-domestic issue, and I hope Rove does too.
How dramatic would it be to find out that during Primary season, 2004, Comey at DOJ found out that some NSA technician acting â€on his own†was evaluating the call records or content of the Kerry Campaign?

Hmmm…I was mostly kidding about reason #37 – but it turns out there is Nixonian precedent for insiders officially leaving an administration to do insidious jobs for the administration.

How likely is this with Rove?

I’m banking on Gannon!!!

There’s never been any doubt in my mind that there was a rump-ranger in the WH somewhere, and I always figured it to be Rove or Bush.

Flynnt has his ass. That’s not to say the other stuff isn’t coming down the pipe, but once Flynnt came on the scene I never figured the Gannon stink would quit fermenting.

That said – You can be damn sure he’s leaving to be yet another firewall. what ever is about to hit the fan will come in a couple of weeks. Rove will refuse to testify – and yes, the pardon will come.

And I don’t want to hear any crap about the term rump-ranger. I’m just joking. And my gay friends won’t mind.

Since when did Rove balk at anything, much less nuking Iran?

He’s survived so much, why’s he gotta go now?

Nobody previously minded that there was a turd in the White House punchbowl.

Thus, this turd must be new.

This turd must be eallly special.

Fresh, huge, steaming, well-placed, everybody-outta-the-pool.

as much as I abhor george dubya shrub, I am forced to concede that the one thing he has gotten right -the ONLY THING- is karl marx rove’s nickname … â€TURDBLOSSOMâ€

Son? Son????????

He has a spawn?

Oh, Christ. â€It†has reproduced. Fucking Son of Rovenstein

uhm, one note about Lincoln

Lincoln didn’t free the slaves because Lincoln was dedicated to abolition

Lincoln freed the slaves as a punitive action against the confederacy

Lincoln wasn’t as dedicated to abolishing slavery

Lincoln was dedicated to preserving the Union

If a compromise could have been reached that would have stopped the expansion of slave territory, Lincoln would have been satisfied to leave the slaves where they were

Lincoln was sort of a â€Free Market†abolitionist. He was convinced that slavery would eventually die because of the economic weakness slavery causes

Bush won’t be able to pardon rove if they nail him to the wall after 2008 election. That is, assuming that they haven’t already fixed the next election too. They have to start doing to these politicos what they are starting to do to CEOs who abuse the system.

Another data point: Rove’s departure comes on the heels of Bush meeting with his father and Sarkozy up at Kennebunkport. Not that father and son don’t speak by phone, but was Bush 41 more candid in his criticisms of Rove in person?

I actually lean against the Poppy/Baker theory, but I thought the recency of the meeting was notable.

My theory is that Rove has been looking for an exit strategy from Bush and is simply a rat leaving a sinking ship. Why now? Depressingly I think it is because â€The Sherriff Isn’t Coming.â€

Fitzmas is over. Libby has been pardoned. And the FISA capitulation by the Dems may have convinced Rove that there will be no impeachment of Gonzales by Congress. In short, he’s leaving now — and exposing himself to additional legal jeopordy — precisely because he feels that he can run out the clock.

Naturally, I hope that I am wrong. But I just can’t see Bush pushing Rove out pre-indictment. It isn’t something he did with Libby. And it smacks of an admission of wrong-doing. Something neither Bush nor Rove have been known to do.

If Rove were to be indicted from the OSC investigation, Rove’s playbook would call for Bush to refuse comment about an active investigation while his minions scatter to the cable shows to pooh-pooh the â€criminalization of politics.â€

what does it mean to â€resign†anyway? he can keep on doing what he’s been doing, being bush’s â€best friendâ€. also, since there are some amusing posts here, let me remind you of the passage from the profile of rove that appeared in the new yorker a few years ago…it jumped off the page at me, and i found it on the web…decades after meeting bush for the first time, rove reminisces fondly about bush’s rear end and his awesome charisma.
but they’re not gay, don’t you know…

â€[Rove, recalling his first meeting with George W. Bush, said] I can literally remember what he [Bush] was wearing: an Air National Guard flight jacket, cowboy boots, bulletins, complete with the–in Texas you see it a lot–one of the back pockets will have a circle worn in the pocket from where you carry your tin of snuff, your tin of tobacco. He was exuding more charisma than any one individual should be allowed to have.â€

maybe it’s just that the thrill is gone.

and by the way, rove’s wife looks just like him!

â€If it comes to it, Rove may admit to having Iglesias fired in an attempt to politicize the entire judiciary to hide the fact that–in this specific case, at least–â€but†was involved in that process, too.â€
Should not it read â€Bush†instead of â€butâ€.

Maybe he’s got his eencie weencie tiny nubbin of a baby penis tangled up in the DC Madam scandal. With a man of course.

I think its the Larry Flynt factor. I remember discussing what on earth could possibly â€surprise†Larry Flynt. I think Rove is about to be outted as on the DC Madams list of clients. The suprise for Larry is that (in this case anyway) that it was with a woman. I think Larry was expecting Rove’s homosexual activity to bring him down. That he (also) sleeps with women would be rather suprising for Larry with his â€inside†knowledge.

However, there is the Gannon/Guckert factor after all. Larry is threatening to out another cast of characters and he has that million up for the taking. I also notice that Gannon/Guckert has a book apparently coming out soon that he is supposed to vilify the â€so-called Liberal Media†types he rubbed elbows with. Gannon/Guckert will have to explain how he managed to get a ticket into the Press Corp…and perhaps Rove is collateral damage there. I am wondering why anyone would even give Gannon/Guckert a book deal…at this point who cares what he has to say. Perhaps Larry â€arranged†a book deal with the arrangement of such as having the opportunity to trash the media’s so called liberal slant was the only way Gannon/Guckert would spill the beans because he seems to think that it will insulate him from the backlash he would receive from those on the Right for outting Karl. In other words, if he spoon feeds them â€liberal media types†they won’t hate him for outting Karl Rove and he can collect the â€bountyâ€.

What Space said:

In short, he’s leaving now — and exposing himself to additional legal jeopordy — precisely because he feels that he can run out the clock.

Mueller is looking like the Frodo of this story. He’s the only one, so far, in BushWorld that can be trusted to carry the Ring of Power, but not use it for himself.

Nobody punks the FBI.

That means you, Karl.

Emptywheel, you’re my politico/intellectual superior on this, so I yield if you think this is hooey. But Rove does not capitulate, ever.

With him by Bush’s side, though he’s proven politically bulletproof for them so far, nor are they acheiving anything with him either. His name crops up in every investigation, and it’s beginning to ’look’ bad in conversations around the easy-bake ovens of America.

The Loyal Royal Bushies COULD just take their pay, sit on their asses and run out the clock. (The Dems’ investigations, noble though they may be, don’t appear strong enough to resist executive obstructionism) So failing any other grander purpose, there’s no clear point in ANYONE leaving, especially Rove.

So for BushCo, it’s the appearance of sacrificing the queen. But they wouldn’t do this unless it served other purposes.

I have to assume he’s off to do what he does best: either getting other unqualified billionaire runt prima-donnas elected, (by way of political assasinations from Florida) or more likely to take his neo-McKinley ’realignment’ doctrine underground for the time being.
The latter option could be for the near-term with whatever Cheney’s got planned after the next â€Chertoff’s-gut-confirmed†terrorist hit, or down the road for future GOP need, whichever comes first.

The GOP doesn’t care if he’s an asshole. He’s a hit-man first and foremost. To them he’s lethally effective, even more dangerous off the radar, and they will continue to keep him VERY close in the loop at all times.

So many possibilities, but I’m betting Fielding made the call. Urgently needed him distanced from Shrub for insulation. He’s now a fall guy walking.

He can use this time well, dealing with RNC e-mails, data re: vote mechanics, etc, etc… Careful as he’s been, surely plenty to be cleansed/undone/revised/disappeared in anticipation of control shift (or investigation). He well knows what can’t be delegated and there must be a ton of it.

Let’s hope he’s resigning because of a sex scandal and not because he knows Cheney is about to attack Iran with nuclear weapons and it upsets his sense of morality.

Rove: Carnahan, Wellstone … ?
Bite my tongue?

Lance is right. He’s out cuz Fielding told him to get out. Dont know what the bomb is, but its too close to shrub. But depending on what the bomb is, there probably be no way to insulate shrub. With the exception of the sex thing(s), noone will buy anything being done by Karl w/out intimate knowledge by lil georgie.