On America’s Spent Moral Standing

You’ll be hearing these two assertions repeated, made by someone who voted for the Iraq War in the 21st Century, a lot in coming days (see after 0:50).

You just don’t, in the 21st Century, behave in 19th Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext so it is a very serious moment.

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That’s not the act of somebody who is strong. That’s the act of somebody who is acting out of weakness, who is acting out of a certain kind of desperation.

I guess someone in the Obama White House believed that if we call Vladimir Putin weak after he’s just called our bluff, it will get him to back down, even as Putin knows we have no great options against him.

But it all shows one of the downsides of having so badly spent our moral standing already this century. Whatever the objective of these statements, whether in other circumstances they might have worked, they just come off as a joke. Especially coming from Kerry.

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bmaz @ryanjreilly @johnson_carrie Wait...that is new and not an old snippet? So Wilson at no time made any connection at all to Cigarello theft?
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr Ut oh! Backed into the illogic of your position it is made clear how perfectly you exemplify point in post!
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr I didn't just ask abt withdrawal. Your claim suggested we had to imprison EVERY SINGLE PERSON who opposed US oocupation.
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr From that you're suggesting US should still be an occupying power imprisoning every single person who ever opposed occupation?
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr And I did not say "they're mad at US." You do realize al-Baghdadi was in US prison in Iraq?
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr You're apparently unfamiliar with the way rape has long been used as a weapon of war. But your unfamiliarity w/a lot is clear.
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr And, um. One reason ISIS is what ISIS is is because of ... our torture.
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr Oh wait. You're the one ignoring all those casualties.
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr You mean the 200,000 killed in Syria? The hundreds of thousands the US caused to be killed in Iraq?
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr I DON'T however advocate doing things that will empower them, as our policy in Syria and Libya already has.
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr LOL. If I write a piece abt how loathsome both sides are, comparing to CIvil War, what IS the logical conclusion?
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emptywheel @UrbanAchievr It does? Oh, wait. It doesn't. That's just you misreading again.
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