Dafna Linzer, the Iran War's A17 Expert September 14, 2006/in War /by emptywheel https://www.emptywheel.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Logo-Web.png 0 0 emptywheel https://www.emptywheel.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Logo-Web.png emptywheel2006-09-14 09:31:002006-09-14 09:31:00Dafna Linzer, the Iran War's A17 Expert
Hoekstra? Hoekstra? What am I, in the Twilight Zone? It hasnâ€™t even been three months since Hoekstra was totally discredited on the subject of Iraq and WMD. Now weâ€™re having to waste precious time debunking his idiocy on Iran?
When the hell is someone going to write a story that examines the track record of the morons who tell these tales?
I know Cheney, et al., have their 1% doctrine and all, but weâ€™re in Iraq because of their retarded stovepiping. And they engaged in their retarded stovepiping because they were all embarrassed and angry at having been caught flatfooted in the first Gulf War because the CIA had gotten it wrong on WMD then.
So now here we are, with the Cheney cabal having gotten it wrong on WMD now, and still weâ€™re supposed to just forge ahead? The exact conditions which gave rise to a movement that allowed Cheney and his cronies to totally write the established intelligence community out of the loop are now present again, only with respect toâ€¦ Cheney and his cronies!
And weâ€™re still playing the â€deference to the official government positionâ€ game, out of what? Respect for the office? The 1% chance they might be right?
I am alway a little sad when I see things about the complete roll over of the Washington Post.
I , like many of my generation, cheered the 2 intrepid reporters who became legends for the breaking of Watergate.
The great editor Ben Bradley along with his boss and paper owner, Kathryn Graham, were the dynamic duo who exposed the worst of government to help keep it an effective government.
These days itâ€™s not just a sad shadow of itâ€™s former glorious self, but, completely dark. An endless midnight.
At least the NYT has tried to make it back from thier trip to the dark side and regain thier reputation and become a real newpaper again.
Sadly, the Washington Post has stayed entrenched on the dark side and is addicted to the koolaid. I think because of this, the mighty Post will continue to see thier fortunes fall and eventually die.
This is true of most corporate owned media. The cutting off of important stories and cheerleading of Bush and his ilk will be the death of MSM.
Fredrick Fleitz has had his finger in every neocon pie from the start. His name turned up in the Larry Franklin affair too.
Lets try and be honest here. I will start by saying I have no idea why Hoekstra would publish a report like this which only calls his credibility into question.
That being said you did see the report in the NYT just two weeks ago citing an IAEA report that stated IAEA inspectors had recently found traces of â€highly enriched uraniumâ€. This was not the first time the IAEA caught the Iranians cheating. Previously they had claimed the uranium traces had come from equipment purchased from the Pakistanis that had not been cleaned properly.
This time the IAEA ruled out that possibility.
I am certainly no expert but I find it hard to believe that 3.5% would qualify as â€highly enrichedâ€
Unfortunately you need a subscription to access the NYT article now but you can read an excerpt here at Captainâ€™s quarters
yes I know you hate him but just suck it up and read the excerpt before erupting into flames ok?
You mean the story that says this:
And then, when you go to the actual report, it sure doesnâ€™t seem to merit the big old headlines that former Miller collaborator, William Broad, and his colleagues gave it.
And that paragraph, in turn, refers to http://www.iaea.org/Publicatio…..006-27.pdfâ€ rel=â€nofollowâ€>this one:
From the sounds of the reports, there are particles on recently-acquired dual-use equipmentâ€“the recently acquired ought to open your eyes to begin with.
If I had to guess, Iâ€™d say the NYT article was based on an interview with Robert Joseph (who, it should be said, was Fleitzâ€™ boss until Fleitz went to the House this spring, and who is cited in the article). And Joseph took a small matter and turned it into a big deal.
The same Bob Joseph who supervised the drafting of the part of the 2003 State of the Union speech that included such issues as a purported Iraq/Niger uranium connectionâ€¦? [I was recently reading the transcript from the Dan Bartlett/Stephen Hadley mea culpa press conference about the 16 words that they held in late July, I think, 2003. It was definitely implied, if not explicitly stated, that the information got into the SotU speech by way of the drafts in the area of expertise (national security, etc.) overseen by Joseph.] Yet another behind-the-scenes player who needs to be brought out of the shadows and into the spotlightâ€¦
My only point was I can not see as a layman how anyone would qualify 3.5% as â€highly enrichedâ€. Your excerpt contains these words:
â€You cannot say weapons-grade, but very high,â€ he said.
How they got there is definitely an important question that you, and I and our government should be very concerned with.
I would hope that you believe as I do that Iran intends to develop a nuclear weapon.
We may agree or disagree on the correct policy for dealing with Iran, but again that was not my point 8).
Thanks for responding and providing some substantive info.
It concerns me gravely that someone (Iâ€™m guessing Josephâ€“and note, Iâ€™m suggesting itâ€™s Joseph who is trying to push the weapons grade here, so itâ€™s not very credible; the IAEA is not pushing it) is ginning this up to be a casus belli. Because itâ€™s not. Itâ€™s traces on equipment they had just gotten. They mention the earlier time when there were traces on equipment they had just gotten from Pakistan. I suggest you think about that coincidence.
I have no doubt Iran wants to develop the know-how to do nukes. But there is absolutely no credible evidence they are a threat.
Looks like Pincus did it again. Well, part of it, anyway. My diary at DKos today explains: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/15/104441/649
WP: WH Claims CIA Withheld Iraq Intel – Or did Cheney do that?
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 at 07:44:41 AM PDT
A report in todayâ€™s Washington Post appears to provide additional context to the motive behind the Plame outing.
Washington Post reporter Walter Pincus revealed today that a highly secret CIA briefing in late 2002 by a ranking official in Saddam Husseinâ€™s government was withheld from distribution. That information contradicted the allegations being made at the time by the Bush Administration that Iraq was developing nuclear weapons and held large stocks of chemical and biological arms.
As Pincusâ€™ sources at CIA makes clear, a section of that report should have been distributed within CIA to Valerie Plameâ€™s unit that was probing Iraq WMDs, and the other to the CIA Iraq counter-terrorism unit. From information previously released, the counterterrorism unit seems likely to have included the former Chief of Station in Islamabad, Robert Grenier. As we learned six months ago, Scooter Libby talked to Grenier about Plameâ€™s work at CIA before he outed her.
WE NEED A LAWYER WITH BACKGROUND IN INTERNATIONAL LAW TO EXAMINE BUSHâ€™S VIOLATIONS OF GENEVA CONVENTIONS, ESPECIALLY ARTICLE 3, AROUND THE TORTURE INTERROGATIONS OF WAR PRISONERS/DETAINEES, ESPECIALLY IN SECRET CIA PRISONS AROUND THE WORLD. THE SUPREME COURT RULED IN JUNE PUT BUSH AND HIS ADMINISTRATION IN LEGAL JEOPARDY OF VIOLATING INTERNATIONAL LAW. BUSHâ€™S APOPLECTIC PRESS CONFERENCE YESTERDAY CONFIRMS THE URGENCY OF HIS â€TORTURE CLARIFICATIONâ€ BILL IN CONGRESS TO COVER HIS BUTT. EXAMINATION OF BUSHâ€™S LEGAL JEOPARDY NEEDS THE SAME CAREFUL ANALYSIS YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE PLAME ISSUE. DO YOU KNOW ANYONE TO DO THIS?
I know this is OT but I have been trying to send an email with some research Iâ€™ve done about Victoria Toensing and her lying ways and the email came back. How can I get in touch? TIA