Greene County, OH Young Republican Lays Out Plan to Commit Vote Fraud

picture-48.pngAfter I noted that Greene County’s Republican attorneys were chasing down voting information on those who recently registered and requested an absentee ballot in that county, klynn found evidence of a "Young Republican" in that county laying out a plan to encourage vote fraud (in case that post disappears, I took this screen shot at around 1:38PM). The post claims that,

I’ve called all my friends in Georgia and Alaska (states that are clearly leaning Republican) and had them register to vote (using the local YMCA’s address) and to apply for an absentee ballot so the ballot will be sent to their homes in GA and AK.

In other words, this self-described Republican claims he (or she) was encouraging friends to commit vote fraud. Now, this post appeared just over a week before Greene County’s Sheriff got Mike DeWine’s buddy Stephen Haller to start digging up records on those who had registered early. So maybe this is why the Sheriff started investigating early voters. Or maybe this was just a plant to excuse such an investigation.

Sara explained why Greene County might have been a target for this kind of attention. 

Two major Historic Black Colleges are located in Green County, Central State University, which is Ohio’s Black Land Grant Institution, and Wilberforce University and Seminary, which was founded by the AME — African Methodist Episcopal Church back about 1845 or so. A former congressman from NYC is the current President of Wilberforce.

I can well imagine that Xenia saw lots of youthful voters during the early voting window last week, that ended this Monday.

A few miles outside Xenia, but still in Greene Country is Cedarville College, an Evangelical (I think Baptist) school with whom the DeVines have a very close connection — I believe both the former Senator and his brother are graduates. Cedarville is much older, but has close links with Falwell’s Liberty University and Robertson’s college operations. Lots of Cedarville students go on to study law at Regent’s. Lots of old connections with Blackwell’s operations in Ohio. [my emphasis]

Now, frankly, I don’t know what to make of this. Maybe this Young Republican is just talking out of his arse. Maybe the Republicans in Greene County are systematically trying to challenge the students at Central State and Wilberforce.

But given all the over-heated cries from the McCain campaign alleging voter fraud, you’d think they might spend some time checking into their own "Young Republicans" openly advocating vote fraud.

50 replies
  1. DeadLast says:

    Now, frankly, I don’t know what to make of this.

    I do! Someone should go to jail. I can think of 700 billion reasons and 4000 dead men and women. It is all related.

    Of course you know that. Great job EW.

  2. JimWhite says:

    Is there any evidence at all for the charge of “busing” in people from “everywhere” to take advantage of the registration/vote absentee provision?

    The only “fraud” I am aware of are the relatively few registrations that were made up to generate fees for those being paid to register. Anyone have any references for anything else? (For that matter, is there any evidence of Republicans busing people into Ohio to do this?)

    • brendanx says:

      Is there any evidence at all for the charge of “busing” in people from “everywhere” to take advantage of the registration/vote absentee provision?

      It’s a Republican urban myth, so to speak. You can hear variations on it from them any election season.

      • klynn says:

        You are too funny! Remember, I do not have a national audience waiting on my next word — you do! So I am flattered no matter… I just hope it gets some traction statewide and nationally.

        Wish you could have seen my face when I stumbled on this after your first post on the Green County issue…

        I could not believe someone could be so dumb to post actions about voter fraud and an encouragement to do it on a wide basis. But look at who we are dealing with…so on the other hand…TOTALLY believable.

  3. brendanx says:

    In your earlier post you excerpt a quote of this guy:

    Tom Miller, chief of the prosecutor’s civil division, said Fischer is seeking information so that he can prevent voter fraud. He made it clear to prosecutors that his concerns were not partisan, Miller said, even noting during their discussion that students at one college, Cedarville, tend to vote Republican.

    Miller doth protest too much. Why else volunteer the detail about one college that “tends to vote Republican”?

    Stryx in those earlier comments has a great link on Deters’ role in the Ohio scandals.

    OT: via Politico via Atrios, here is the Churkin letter from the McCain campaign, more of the drip, drip of Putin’s revenge.

  4. brendanx says:

    In the Young Republican’s letter you’ll not the “vote 3 times” talking point they all (e.g., my office mate) have had since forever.

  5. klynn says:

    Now, my guess is that Cedarville is central this time because Mt. Vernon of the Nazarene College was involved in the last round of issues on voting in Ohio during a presidential election…What a trend…

    • Leen says:

      Klynn/Ew I am sending out an Action alert to friends around Athens and in the Dayton area. What do you think would be best? Encouraging them to Call Bruner, newspapers, Joe Deter? What else?

  6. readerOfTeaLeaves says:

    Just a shout-out to the Collective Intelligence that happens here, as well as to bloggers like EW (and FDLers) who actually check the comments of their readers.

    Man, oh man… klynn, you find some amazing stuff, as do others round these parts.
    This one outta get some kind of trophy.

    As skdadl might say, “OH!! My paws and whiskers! This is one giant hairball of a bricklefritz**!”

    **Not sure whether I spelled skdadl’s word correctly; she once commented that she invented it as a substitute for profanity and I kind of like it, so hope borrowing privileges are allowed. Heaven only knows, my old profanities and obscenities just seem to have become shopworn and incapable of describing the ongoing surprises of this election year.

    • skdadl says:

      Migosh. The memory that you have, roTL. Thank you for memorializing me. *wink*

      Nice catch, klynn. I clicked through to that kid’s site and the post is still up. I was soooo tempted to write something, but I slapped my paws and washed my whiskers instead.

      • readerOfTeaLeaves says:

        OT – for skdadl — hey! you’re quick!
        I shudder to think all the things that I forget; but I love to remember things that make me smile and giggle, like your wonderfully visual expressions ;-))

        On TOPIC: Here’s a link from Bill Moyers Journal on Friday; easy to run in another browser window if you have good Internet bandwidth — an interview with Mark Crispin Miller, prof of Media & Cmu at NYU, who’s been following voter fraud (about 14 min playing time).…..atch3.html

  7. Leen says:

    Just called Bruner’s office, the Dayton Daily News tip number (937-225-2275) and the Greene County election board. I think Emptywheel’s will be getting a few more visitors today. Way to go Klynn

  8. Redshift says:

    It looks to me like they’re trying to demonstrate that vote fraud could have occurred by doing it, and then if they get away with it, using that as a basis to shout to from the rooftops that since it’s possible, there must be a massive Democratic effort to do the same thing.

    Kind of like those two guys in ‘06 who claimed they had voted multiple times, and despite being unable to produce any evidence, because a cause celebre to the Right.

    Considering that most vocal wingnuts are armchair warriors, I doubt this bozo will actually get anyone to go through with it, especially with the risk of a felony conviction. But that won’t stop them from telling everyone how they could have, really!

    • readerOfTeaLeaves says:

      I agree with your hunches, and just to underscore the incredible irony here — in case you missed it, here’s a web app that Google worked up with the Ohio Sec of State to make sure that voters can find their polling locations this year:…..-ohio.html

      Perhaps some GOP hack needs to write some new code that’s like… I dunno… maybe color-coded? Orange flaggies for the location of your REAL, legitimate vote; Brown flaggies for your first fraudulent vote, lighter brown for your second…?

      For normal, law-abiding citizens who can distinguish right from wrong, here’s hoping the Ohio Voter Google app helps them locate their correct polling locations. It’s a cool idea.

    • Neil says:

      Is this the shiny object the takes attention away from the real voter suppression efforts?

      Shuster has a little coverage of threats against ACORN on MsNBC this afternoon, VIDEO.

      McCain’s accusation in the last debate was a shot across the bow. An incredible accusation, which is incredibly irresposible if he has no evidence that supports it. And it worked. The crazies are inhinged, threatening harm, and capturing part of the news cycle.

      What is the McCain campaign trying to distract from? Are they simply blaming the Dems first so that when the Dems blame the R’s for real voter suppression it comes off as tit for tat?

      How does the FBI investigate ACORN without probable cause and in spite of their internal policy that prohibits investigations and prosecutions so close to the election?

  9. Leen says:

    Just thinking that folks around the country should follow Klynn’s lead and search out other Republican students websites for similar activities because if this kid is nailed with encouraging or taking part in voter fraud anyone else foolish enough to put this up on a website will be taking it down pronto.

  10. TwinpeaksnikkiSF says:

    Breaking! The producer of the video below was just interviewed on CNN, a man who said he worked for John McCain said the racist spewing the anti-muslim swill did not speak for the McCain campaign. Rick Sanchez had the McCain campaign worker on line to interview him then had to apologize as he could not do the interview as he was just told that he wasn’t cleared by the McCain camp.

    So the question is “Who speaks for McCain. The racist or the campaign worker?…..e-at-rally

    • TwinpeaksnikkiSF says:

      The man representing the McCain campaign said he was Jim Zakari (CNN had him as Jim Zakairi? and he said he was a delegate and chairman of the Md. McCain campaign. He interceded when a Turkish supporter of McCain said the racist had changed her mind because of the racist’s views.

      Maybe McInsane has plans to latch onto the racist guy and make him into the new Joe the Plummer.

    • Leen says:

      McCain has been speaking for himself. When he stopped that older woman in the audience from calling Obama an “Arab” he could have really drawn the line in a more serious fashion . He did not. When asked about linking Obama and terrorist in adds McCain does not back off. During the last debate McCain had a clear opportunity to draw the line in regard to the inflammatory Palin statements “Obama paling around with terrorist” McCain did not draw the line. When he was asked about people making racist statements at the Palin rallies that Palin has let go by, McCain flipped it back and said that people had directed those type of statements towards McCain and Palin.

      McCain has been speaking for himself on these issues and what he has had to say and not say is dangerous and pathetic.

  11. rosalind says:

    ot: just checked out the latest stevens’ trial testimony over at tpm, and found this gem referencing a massage chair given to stevens from allen:

    “He bought that chair as a gift, but I refused it as a gift,” Stevens said. “He put it there and said it was my chair. I told him I would not accept it as a gift. We have lots of things in our house that don’t belong to us.” Playing to the jury, Morris appeared confused. “So, if you say it’s not a gift, it’s not a gift?” she said. “I refused it as a gift,” Stevens replied. “I let him put it in our basement at his request.”


    • MarkH says:

      “He bought that chair as a gift, but I refused it as a gift,” Stevens said. “He put it there and said it was my chair. I told him I would not accept it as a gift. We have lots of things in our house that don’t belong to us.”

      So he’s got a house full of other people’s stuff he’s just warehousing?
      Bizarro world stuff.

  12. wobblybits says:

    O/T via TPM :

    In an interview late last week on right-wing radio, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis invoked John Lewis’ comment about George Wallace and hinted that the campaign might go back on McCain’s vow not to bring up Rev. Wright. “We’ve got 19 days, and we’re taking serious all these issues,” he said.

    Let the overt race baiting begin

    • cbl2 says:

      just saw that myself. we knew it was coming. these are some desperate klowns.

      Go ahead, F*wads, you got a whole 7 points out of it in the Spring, and that was, you know, before we were all standing in soup lines. Undecideds are down to single digits, so you convert half of ‘em – bfd

      to quote mr cbl’s favorite bad movie line “Go ahead, skin that smokewagon and see what happens !”

  13. klynn says:


    Here’s a radio story from the week of October 9. Again, somehow in listing the colleges in Greene County, Cedarville is pointed out as a Christian college which tends to vote Republican.

    Me thinks the media doth protest too much…As does the Sheriff who is also head of the GOP in Greene.…..rs_records

    I also read the next legal move will come from Columbus and target college students in Franklin County.

  14. JohnLopresti says:

    On a spare workstation, slow, today. So, archive fairly inaccessible for me. However, interesting work on background to the thread. The way I recall the academics’ characterization of the Greene Co embarrassments last week, the colleges, as mentioned in the post and upthread, are of various persuasions. I find a way of reading the yung turk missive as a sort of reverse caging, but a very risky venture for its actuators. Another reference I would explore would be the local professionals at the Moritz center, although they ever remain detached nonpartisan, given their milieu. They write about OH electoral politics circumspectly, as their prime interests ascend higher in the pantheon of voting deities. Appreciation to the Yellow Springs clarion, above, for some valuable gloss. End of brief message on spare workstation. JL

  15. cbl2 says:

    wobbs and others – resurrecting Rev Wright

    Bob Schieffer on Republicans this am –

    They think the pick of Sarah Palin reflects on John McCain’s judgment, they think the campaign has turned too nasty and is not inclusive. I think Colin Powell said aloud yesterday what some Republicans, at least, are saying privately.


  16. Raven says:

    John McCain’s campaign manager says he is reconsidering using Barack Obama’s relationship with Reverend Jeremiah Wright as a campaign issue during the election’s closing weeks.

  17. skdadl says:

    I keep forgetting to ask: is Karl still turning up on TV these days? Or is he hunkered down somewhere plotting these capers in private?

  18. Sara says:

    Something is clearly up in Xenia. I got a blast E-mail today that covered a multitude of Antioch and Antiochian Lists, asking for at least 20 emergency volunteers for poll watching training and then duty till the close of business on election day. The post came from one of the Obama Fellows. Apparently they believe they need watchers and witnesses for everything. I’ll try to contact the Fellow and see if I can get more details.

    Putting this together with the apparent computer hack, my guess is a strategy of creating chaos, the better to claim massive fraud. The better to cause voters to be put off, and not show up for the actual voting. So First things first — do the Obama Cool, and reassure all the voters that all they need to do is show up election day and vote.

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