Obama to (Finally) Fulfill One of His Promises
By agreeing to release logs of visitors to the White House.
The President has decided to increase governmental transparency by implementing a voluntary disclosure policy governing White House visitor access records. The White House will release, on a monthly basis, all previously unreleased WAVES and ACR access records that are 90 to 120 days old. For example, records created in January 2010 will be released at the end of April 2010. The short time lag will allow the White House to continue to conduct business, while still providing the American people with an unprecedented amount of information about their government. No previous White House has ever adopted such a policy.
The voluntary disclosure policy will apply to records created after September 15, 2009, and the first release of records (covering the month of September) will occur at the end of the year, on or about December 31, 2009.
A couple of points on this (and forgive me for being churlish.
First, they’re announcing this as they prepare to screw progressives on health care. If this is meant to be a sop, I’m not buying it).
Second, this is a classic Greg Craig agreement: a voluntary agreement that can be overturned at the whim of the Executive. So while it’s nice and all, it doesn’t cede on Executive Power in the least.
And finally, note that this is just going forward, not historical. So we don’t get a final list of all the lobbyists who have visited the White House when Progressives were still being shut out.
I really hope the progressive caucus holds firm on this. The Dem party is going to much better off if they do. The Rhambo crowd really needs to eat it on this. If the PC can hold and force some Blue Dogs to recalculate what they need to be re-elected ( passing a bill ) then a good bill will emerge. But if they crack under the Obama fundraising machine then they will never have credibility again.
I would like to see if this voluntary list contains anyone who is even remotely progressive. ( Not a boot licker )
Uhm, excuse me Mr. President, what about putting the health care reform negotiations on CSPAN?
Didn’t you promise that, as well?
Obama has decided the progressives can be effectively ignored.
What confuses me is that he would have an easier time striking a deal with the democrat left then with the GOP middle. What is Obama’s fixation with Sen Snow, anyway?
I wonder where this “deal with the GOP, rather than the Democrat left” is coming from. Certainly, Rahm is not a bipartisan supporter. He hates the GOPer’s as a matter of principle. Obama is not beholden to Pharma/insurance corporations as far as I know, though Rahm and some key democrats are.
If Obama were to make a plea to the netizens for funds like he did during the campaign, I wonder how much money he’d raise. He won’t get another dime from me until I hear the words “public option” and “torture prosecutions”.
Boxturtle (Figuring my money is safe)
Argh. Snowe, not Snow.
Boxturtle (Too early in the morning. Need Caffine)
Then he thinks wrong.
The numbers are undeniable.
If he loses the base it’s down 23 – 41 seats in the House and he’s a one termer.
Can he be that stupid?
This is totally wrong. I’m not sure what you mean by ‘losing the base’, but anybody who thinks the Dems will lose 23-41 seats in the House in 2010 is smoking crack. It’s just not possible. I’m as frustrated as anybody by Obama’s fecklessness (and even more so the Dems in the Senate), but I know an effective politician when I see one. If he’s breathing, Obama will win in 2012. People need to get a grip on reality. The Dems are in power and we better figure out how to move them in the best direction. It’s time to get organized and make sure the politician understand where the center really is. It ain’t Olympia Snowe and Ben Nelson. Anthony Weiner is a lot closer to the center of public opinion than they are.
can’t agree with you, obama is a disapointment to just about everyone, I don’t think he’s teflon and I don’t think he’s winning in oh twelve unless he does something substantial just before the election
like capture bin laden or something
if obama ran as a republican he would win their nomination, he loses democrats and republicans won’t vote for him even though he’s been actings like a republican
I think he’s one term
Want to put some money on that? Seriously. Are you gonna sit at home and let Sarah Palin (or whatever crazy the Republicans nominate) win? I’m not. Mike Huckabee is the sanest person capable of winning the Republican nomination. Think about that for a minute. (And no Multiple-Choice Mitt hasn’t got a chance. No way a Mormon wins Republican party primaries in the South which means on Mormon is going to win the nomination).
ya, I’ll take that bet;
“if obama does not come up with something substantial he will lose to the democratic challenger in the primaries”
that’s my bet and I’m willing to put money on it, as far as sarah palin, believe me, she’s not gonna be their candidate they’re gonna find someone far more electable then her…I’ll take bets on that also
obama better make some changes fast if he wants to be more then a one term president, you can bet on that william, I will
I hope you’re still around here in 2012. I love to gloat. I’ll be happy to give you 10-1 odds against a successful Democratic challenge to Obama.
You’re probably right about Palin. I really doubt that she has what it takes to stick through a primary campaign. But if you think the Republican will find somebody more electable, you haven’t been paying attention.
[Just so everybody’s clear on this, I’m not predicting Obama’s success because I’m a big fan of his. The institutional barriers to unseating an incumbent President are huge. The only thing that could really jeopardize Obama’s re-election would be a significant third-party candidate from the Democratic coalition and I don’t see that happening.]
olberman happens to agree with me, go figure
obama is walking on extremely thin ice and I am sure hoping he gets a very succesful primary challenge even if he does get the public option through
I actually prefer he gets impeached for being a party to, covering up and facilitating war crimes including but not exclusively including torture but that’s another discussion
you should hope so too this man is such a disapointment to everyone
in any event we’re spinning our wheels speculating and I doubt either of us will be able to search this conversation up when the time comes
We can talk about impeaching Obama after we’ve put Cheney and Bush in jail.
I’m actually pretty determined to go back and find my old predictions. I’m not that good with predicting what individuals will do (although I did call the no pardons approach of Bush when almost no one believed that). Here are some of my old predictions:
The only state I missed in my prediction was Missouri and I always knew it was a tossup. I’m not convinced a recount there wouldn’t have put Obama over the top. I have incorporated a lot of post-election data into my predictions for 2010 and 2012. I think I understand much better today than I did back then about how things work. I’m willing to put my predictions up against any of the pros.
You think elections are determined by ideology, but that’s clearly not true. People develop their political identity in their late teens and early twenties. That political identity pretty much establishes their voting behavior for the rest of their life, barring life-changing events. Unlike 40 years ago, there are effectively no swing voters at the Presidential level. Simple demographics tell you that Obama will win reelection in 2012 with a larger margin than he had in 2008. Sure, it’s possible that some huge event could change that, but those things are really unlikely.
Mid-term Congressional elections are harder to predict, but the safest prediction is that the result won’t be more than a 2-3% swing in either direction. Given their incumbency advantage, that makes the Democrats a lock to maintain control of the House in 2010.
so then we have a bet
you are laying 10 to one, the proceeds will go to this site in the name of the winner, I don’t think I can seriously expect you to have enough to cover a substantial bet so I’ll let you set the base, anything you say will be fine as far as I am concerned
so here are the ground rules;
a substantial political winning event voids this bet, anyone at the site would be allowed to say whether that event is substantial enough to void the bet
I am saying with no substantial event obama loses to either a democratic challenger or a republican
you say he wins no matter what
is this a correct understanding of our bet?
I live on the same planet as olberman, I am wondering why you would want to insult me and my fun bet with william but I am willing to cover your bet if you want a part of this action
A (viable) primary challenger for a sitting Democratic president (never mind the 1st ‘black’ president)? In the words of Barney Franks … on what planet do you spend most of your time Perris?
Yep, he’s smoking crack, too. Let me explain. His formula assumes that the Congressional elections work the same way today as they did in 1946. That is utter nonsense. Look up Wesberry v. Sanders. You’d be a lot better off taking a look at the work of Andrew Gellman. I don’t agree with all of what he says, but he at least understands what it would take (an unlikely and significant swing) to put the House in jeopardy.
I’m not saying that the Dems won’t lose some seats in the House. They probably will, but the chances of them losing more than 15 seats is pretty low. I think the seats they are most likely to lose are blue dog seats and I’m perfectly OK with that.
For my money, if he doesn’t do an about-face, and soon, that’s where my vote’s going. I will vote for whoever is running against him, and vote for whoever is running against any other Dem on the ticket.
I’ll bet I’m not the only one who feels that way.
Thanks for keeping on top of this Marcy.
Personally, I think they are trying to capture the votes of the 89 people she represents.
Then they ate the minstrels.
And there was much rejoicing.
It is like cowbell, you always need more.
I thought the Republicans had the majority share in the churl market.
Is this a real accommodation?
Is the Obama White House still propositioning that WAVES and ACR records are “Presidential Records” as the Bush Administration hastily proposed through a sketchy MOU with the Secret Service in May 2006? The WAVES and ACR records have, and always been compiled by the Secret Service (now part of DHS and prior to that Treasury) on Secret Service systems, paid for by Secret Service funds, maintained by Secret Service personnel. Which (prior to the unilateral declaration in May 2006) meant they were Agency or Federal records and subject to FOIA.
Since the WAVES and ACR records cover people other than the President’s staff and visitors to the President’s staff, will we be able to also see the names of all passholders, like DNC workers who have permanent passes to access the White House (a very common practice under Bush, not sure about Obama)?
What’s the deal with the VP’s Residence records? I believe that Cheney dismantled the system and ended up getting some sort of handwritten log of Residence visitors. The current VP is still going along with this?
…. wow, is it Catholic guilt?
I fear the boat full of churlish folk is full to the point of sinking!
Count me among the passengers.
Uh oh. Another Chris Christie run-in with the (malleable) Blue Line… This time he was driving the wrong way down a one way street… And hit a motorcyclist.
You beat me to it (and EW beat me to it with the Big Announcement about visitor logs). This one is particularly irritating isn’t it and proves that “The Rule of Law” nowadays applies only to us little people.
Does the US Attorney for NJ get a driver or security detail?
According to the Star-Ledger, Chris was “lost” in the not-so garden city of Elizabeth, NJ while trying to get to an official event.
Also according to that story, Christie was driving a rented BMW sedan.
Excuse me, but what car rental companies rent BMW sedans?
It’s beginning to sound to me like Chris either doesn’t have a license, or can’t qualify for insurance, since he keeps popping up driving other people’s cars. Recklessly.
I assume you seen the Christie story at TPM: hit a motorcyclist driving the wrong way down a one-way street and wasn’t ticketed.
OT. Sibel Edmonds responds to query about testifying in the Schmidt v. Krikorian trial on October 1. She asks that additional FBI agents be deposed.
O/T for the arts lovers
‘Wide Stance,’ a Play Based On Larry Craig
One of Washington’s more colorful recent scandals is heading to the stage.
“A playwright and filmmaker who splits his time between New York and Los Angeles is writing a fictionalized play about former senator Larry Craig’s 2007 arrest in an airport men’s room sex sting, The Sleuth has learned.
“The work-in-progress, titled — what else? — “Wide Stance,” is already scheduled for a debut reading in Craig’s hometown of Boise in January at the spectacular home of former Washingtonian artistic power couple Liz Wolf and her husband, Bill Blahd.”
“a voluntary disclosure policy”?
Sorry, but it’s a change in practice, not policy.
The policy is “These logs belong to the Executive, and nobody has a right to them.” That isn’t changing.
The practice was “We aren’t showing them to anybody” which is now being changed to “since we’re so swell, we’ll show them to you, but only 90 days later.”
Just so we’re clear here.
Plus it wasn’t entered into voluntary – it was a legal settlement, not something Obama believes should just be the rule in general. If they weren’t pushed they would’ve happily shut everyone out.
Actually, it looks like some Bush-era records have already been released as a result of this change:
Being skeptical isn’t being churlish. or I sure hope not, because I’m highly skeptical. CREW had lawsuits filed on all these, had recently won one against DHS, so the WH decision was not made in a vacuum, or in public-minded fidelity to Obama’s campaign pledges.
I’m just getting started. The WH will NOT disclose visits from whomever they choose, whenever they choose. So they will disclose visitation only when they want to. Finally, as you say, they’re not “looking backward” at all the energy and healthcare consults that were done.
I’m glad the CREW is happy, and yes they are praising the WH. And, OK, Obama is better than Bush and, maybe, McCain on this. OK. I admit it.
OT (with apologies), but I’d like to take brief break from the Obama bashing to say wtf gives with these crazy mf’s not showing POTUS’s speech to school children?
Pulling your kids out of school?
The blatant racism behind this is unbelievable.
OK, now back to laying wood to Rahm & Co.
Thanks. Those few seconds of not bashing WH were killing me.
Yeah, especially since these people didn’t make a peep when GHW Bush did the same thing in October of 1991.
Why, it would’ve been seen as unpatriotic!
But with the Black man, anything goes.
Carry automatic rifles outside of his town hall meetings? Fine.
Compare him to Hitler? Go right ahead.
Wish brain cancer on him from the pulpit? Excellent!
Actually, it looks like some Bush-era records have already been released as a result of this change:
Will it say who they are visiting? Such as Rahm? or Jim Messina?
O/T: Go Jerry!
Brown Launches Independent Inquiry into HMOs’ Handling of Health Insurance Claims
September 03, 2009
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Los Angeles – “Attorney General Edmund G. Brown Jr. today announced that deputies in his office are launching an independent inquiry into how Health Maintenance Organizations review and pay insurance claims submitted by doctors, hospitals and other medical providers. “
O/T Two for the car people
Audi President Has Verbal Jolt for Volt
Predicts the Chevy hybrid will fall flat with consumers
Posted by Lawrence Ulrich on Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:07 AM
“He [Audi America President]dismissed GM’s upcoming plug-in hybrid as “a car for idiots,” saying that few consumers will be willing to pay $40,000 — the Volt’s estimated base price — for a car that competes against $25,000 sedans and conventional hybrids.”
WORLD BUSINESS BRIEFING | ASIA
By BLOOMBERG NEWS
Published: September 3, 2009
“Ford Motor said it planned to start producing a small car in India next year. The car will be sold in India and exported.”
Keep in mind that Audi is the Chrysler of Germany; BMW and Mercedes they are not. Heck, they ain’t even Porsche or VW for that matter. Meager bleatings from a man leading a brand forgot.
By the way, the guest list just released for Dick Cheney is completely redacted.
Either that, or Cheney was repeatedly visited, every hour of every day, by a large black rectangular object.
Even with the typo, that was hilarious!
Nobody could have predicted…
“as they prepare to screw progressives on health care“
Thank you Marcy, for now saying this in no uncertain terms. I said exactly this 6 months ago and was subsequently asked to leave a progressive blog because I clearly did not know what I was talking about. At that point, Obama was the progressive’s prophet, come to save us all.
Truth is, I take no special delight in being correct on this particular subject but, to a degree, misery does love company.
I can’t help but wonder that the reluctance to release the logs was to keep us from finding that Kissinger was whispering in yet another presidents ear.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen emptywhee and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
This is the final test and while I never thought Obama is stupid I’m havin second thoughts…if he follows the corporate stooges on his staff he will not only flunk the final exam but he will become a one term President and the Democratic Party will expand it’s majorities in both houses of Congress. If Obama has done anythin’ this last week it’s to put the Progressives in Congress out in front and the only way they survive is to hold firm and kill any bill that doesn’t have a strong public option. He is playin chicken with the progressives and if they hold firm we all win and Obama gets an ass-kickin…if not, well we’re all gunna be standin in the soup line.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE FUCKIN AMMUNITION, NO MORE MR. NICEGUY!!!
p.s. …it IS entirely possible that he is forcin’ the progressives to lead and he ken take the credit if they do.
Derrick Crowe has a cross-post diary up on the front page and would love it if we would join in and read: “NATO Strike Kills 90, Including Up to 40 Civilians”
I think that in the context of Obama’s actual transparency/accountability versus his stated positions we can interpret this to mean they’re going to be a helluva a lot more careful about what makes it into the WH logs from here on out.
Another thing I’m not buying about the release of the visitor’s logs is the idea that somehow the public knowing who is visiting the white house prevents them from “doing business”. More bull puckey.
Finally, proof of change we can believe in. Obama keeps one relatively innocuous promise.
Celebration time come on.
Up next: single-payer, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, reducing military spending, ending don’t ask don’t tell and stopping the “when in doubt, bail it out” policy for the massively wealthy and incompetent.
Making certain America stands for the Geneva Convention and justice will just have to wait.
Abandon progressives? They cannot be the only people that wanted these promises kept.
Leave it to me to state the obvious yet again, but the trouble I have with the idea of primarying PBO involves how bad the alternative is practically guaranteed to be. I see no reason to believe the R’s couldn’t rabble-rouse again with a ticket even uglier than McCain/Palin and draw more votes with it than either candidate of a split D party could muster. What, you really think an incumbent isn’t going to draw big numbers just ‘cuz? I surely do. Under those circumstances, we’re essentially back to the Nader scenario, and bad as PBO has proven himself to be so far, the consequences of another W-like reign are truly too awful to even begin to entertain. In Gen. Jack Ripper’s immortal words, “Regrettably, we find ourselves in a position where we have to choose between two highly undesirable, but nonetheless clearly distinguishable outcomes, one worse than the other” (or something very much like that).
Nope, if we’re screwed — note the emphasis on if — then it’s for structural reasons and we’re screwed for good. To get unscrewed, we would either have to deliver morally undeniable messaging to the electorate that precipitates mass peaceful demonstrations (we certainly have the message, but let’s face it, we lack the powerful messengers we need [BTW where the fuck is Bono when we finally really need him to lead the kids?]; and tradMed is blocking hard), or else we’ll have to make more of us. That, and get way, way more money and corps than we currently have.
Fortunately we have all the good womenfolk, that ought to act as an effective lure…