Trash Talk: Big Blue v. Golden Domers, Other Football & F1

Okay, as promised, here is the real Trash Talk for the weekend. Not sure what other football games and sports there are after the Geezer’s debut Thursday night, but I will try to find some to talk about……

Hey, turns out there is a game in South Bend today! That’s right Wheelers and Wheelettes, it’s the Wolvereenies versus the Flighting Irish. Emptywheel versus Masaccio. Just like when they had the battle of the unvictorious and untieds in 2007 – except better! Both teams appear to be resurgent this year and, all joking aside, that is good for college football. Bothe teams come in at 1-0 and are desperate to get to 2-0 to make a run at a prime bowl spot. Michigan is keyed by Denard Robinson, the super soph quarterback. Last week against UConn, Robinson threw for 186 yards and ran for another 197 as the Wolverines rolled to a 30-10 victory. Thankfully, after last year’s fiasco, Rich Rod seems to have seen the light and made Tate Forcier permanent number two.

Notre Dame seems already to be much more disciplined and cohesive under new coach Brian Kelly. Look for QB Dayne Crist to go deep to Michael floyd, maybe the best receiver in the country, especially considering Big Blue’s defensive secondary is beat up. The real test in this game will be whether Notre Dames defensive front and linebackers can stop Robinson and Michigan’s running game. If they do that, Notre Dame wins, and that is what I expect, although it should be a pretty good game. If Robinson gets loose again like last week, however, the Wolverines will win easy.

There are a lot of other really good games on the bill too. First and foremost is The U at the Ohio State Sweatervests. We will see if Jacory Harris and the Canes are back enough to nip the Buckeyes in the Horseshoe. Also, Georgia at South Carolina, the newly Bowdenless Florida State Seminoles at Oklahoma, Penn State at Bama, Oregon at Tennessee and in an unusually early Pac-10 matchup, Stanford at UCLA. That is a hell of a lot of really good games.

PROS: The big tilt is of course on Monday night when Ray Lewis and the Ravens travel to the Jets Jets Jets and their loud coach and new stadium. That ought to be really something; two nasty defenses, both coached up at one point by Rex Ryan. Revis Island, Bart Scott and Jim Leohnard along with a solid line provide the Dee in the Jets’ fence. They will show up. So will Ray Lewis, although the other superstar ball hawk for the Ravens, Ed Reed, is out. Really, this game will come down to how the two offenses perform. In that category, you have to take the Ravens all the way with Flacco and Ray Rice over Mark Sanchez and a worn out LaDanian Tomlinson. Ravens get the job done

In other key games, the Boys and Romeo visit McNabb and the Skins. Everybody is high on the Boys this year, but I dunno. Still McNabb is banged up, so I will take the Boys this week; later maybe not so much. Pack at Iggles could be interesting. If Kevin Kolb is what he has looked to be in preseason and a couple of games last year, this might be interesting. Might, but won’t; Pack easy. Bengals at Pats; if the Bill Bels can muster any defense at all, they win – I think they will. I think the Lions at Bears may actually be pretty interesting just to see what happens. Lions should be MUCH improved, and who knows what the hell is up with the Bears, they could be good or horrible – who knows? I’ll take the Lions in what I guess is an upset. I saw some cluck on MSNBC website predict the Texans will beat the Peyton Mannings; nuh uh, Peyton scores too much for the Texans. Broncos beat the Jags, Stillers eke out a win over the Dirty Birds, Fish beat the Bills, Browns over the Bucs, Raiders upset the Titans, Eli and the Gents take the Panthers, Cards beat the Rams, SeaSquawks somehow over the Niners, and the Bolts kill the Chiefs.

US Open: Federer pulls one last major win over Nadal and Kim Clijsters wins another Open over Vera Zvonareva.

F1 Circus: This weekend the Circus sets down at the Autodroma Nationale de Monza for the one and only Italian Grand Prix. Monza is the fastest circuit on the tour and is a great track that always provides great racing. Not surprisingly, fast, good teams go fast at Monza, and so they did at practice. Sebastian Vettel led the way for Red Bull followed closely by the two home town heroes in red, the Ferraris of Alonso and Massa. The two Mclarens of Hamilton and Jenson Button followed with Mark Webber trailing with mechanical difficulties. This is another critical race with only three points separating Webber from Hamilton for the driver’s crown and only one point between Red Bull and McLaren for the Constructor’s Championship. The big chattering for the weekend has been over the use of team orders. FIA hit Feerrari with a $100,000 fine for the incident at Hockenheim. I have no clue why this is always so shocking in today’s F1, team orders have been a part of the Circus for over six decades; that is just the way it is and the way it is going to be. Ecclestone should give up the ghost on this one. The race goes off at 7:30 am EST and 4:30 PST Sunday morning on SpeedTV.

  1. radiofreewill says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if both Michigan and Ohio State lost today – but I’m hoping for a win by Big Blue. klynn, I hope you guys are ready for some uber-physical football!

    Florida State is good enough this year to beat Oklahoma – so Freep watch out!

    Alabama will show its power and maul the Nittany Lions.

    Oregon beats the Vols by 21.

    Georgia is loaded with suspended talent, and what should have been a good year goes down in flames to SC.

    The Gators will take another step towards a post-Tebow team identity today and beat USF, but we have a long way to go this season – and only three weeks to get there – before travelling to Alabama…

  2. emptywheel says:

    Actually, the Weenies-Irish game is in the Golden Dome today, which makes it more likely still the Irish will win.

    Tate Forcier got a little too much in his head, and is technically now the third stringer, promising to transfer. In fact, even with the two sophmores they had the new frosh guy NOT red shirt, so Forcier is probably right in transferring.

      • GulfCoastPirate says:

        He went out in the third quarter after getting hit in the head. Supposedly precautionary but we’ll see. The backup came in and led three straight scoring drives so there was no reason to put him back in. Altogether they ran for about 350 and passed for about 350. Hot and humid last night so the bad guys looked gassed. Just ran it up the gut.

        UCLA in the Rose Bowl next week.

  3. JohnLopresti says:

    119 dB may be loud enough that Smith will opt for no huddle at Qwest; which reminds me: ?How many lobbyist $millions$ USD will it take to write a Nacchio get-out-of-jail-free clause into some SubstantiveLegislation Real Soon Now.

    Trying to get back on the course, given the dome noise, and F1 woofer, I checked what Cindy Cohn EFF had to say a few weeks ago about Seidenberg*s Schmidt MOU draft, comparing it to the presser rendition.

    So, How did Monza end up having a name from Biscayne Bay? **Gran Premio Santander di Italia**. I would know if I followed sports, I suppose.

    I just keep worrying about things like CapnJack*s illogic illustrated in the FDL-archived exercise in parse circa 2004, listing all the categories of persons not protected by humane treatment common law at all, as reassurance to AGAG. Time to work in the garden awhile this indian summer.

  4. JohnLopresti says:

    Update: I think I found a content writer who could clarify Goldsmith*s murky prose. Here, in a description of the Barcelona F1 track, lies an excellent exemplar of pidgin crackerjackese:

    **There are no new arrivals in Barcelona Formula One Track Race. The Circuit names de Catalunya. The Race is stared since 1991. The Race is conducted widespread testing at the site.

    **Knowledge does not, though, reduce defy for car or driver. Barcelona*s merge of lofty and low-speed curves, in addition it rough and quite uneven track float up, creates for a physically and mechanically strenuous event. Tyre wear is mainly soaring and the unreliable breezes that slash crossways the track signify a finest set-up be able to hard to get.**

    That helps explain a lot. Must be all the telco jargon that loses something in the translation.

  5. masaccio says:

    Before this game gets underway, I just want to say I already like this team better than last year’s. They do look disciplined, and the offense looked more diverse than last year’s. Crist has a strong arm and good technique, and the O line was giving him the time he needed, which isn’t a lot, given that strong arm. Defensively, the team seemed very active and the D line looked pretty strong.

    Since these are last year’s players, the changes can be attributed to better coaching, at least in part. This team is a lot more fun than last year’s, win or lose.

  6. freepatriot says:


    I’m off teh cable, so my trash ability is limited

    hey bmaz, could you send me an email that I could respond to

    I gots some private business that requires your advice

      • freepatriot says:

        had to step out

        made it back for the second half of the Sooner’s romp

        and at this time, I’d like to take a moment to thank the genius who forced bobby bowden to retire

        thanks to him, I get to watch some of the Michigan-notre dame game

        Jeer jeer at old notre dame

        kick their ass

        put them to shame

        what ???

        that ain’t how the song goes …

  7. rmadelson says:

    Just heard the Huskers are up big on the Vandals of Idaho. No surprise. Got some friends who made the trip from here in Boise to Nebraska. I’m no Vandals fan (my wife teaches at Boise State so we’re blue and orange) but it sounded like a great trip and I’m hoping the Vandals win a lot of games to make the BSU game more fun and raise the stature of BSU’s schedule.


  8. john in sacramento says:

    Penn State at Bama

    That’s surprising

    With the media (especially ESPN) always kneeling in front of all the SEC schools for their incredibly difficult schedules /s (Florida Intl and Tennessee-Chattanooga, North Texas, Kentucky, and Miss. State and Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida Intl, Kentucky, Miss State and Vanderbilt)

    This is really surprising that they’re actually playing someone of substance out of conference ala the PAC 10

    When’s the last time Alabama actually played someone of the stature of Penn State during the regular season? Bet it was a loooong time ago

    Go Nittany Lions

    • bmaz says:

      Nick Saban made an ass out oh himself trying to bad mouth Boise State; how bout he agrees to take the Tide up to Boise for one of Bama’s non-conference games then? Yeah, you won’t hear the arrogant prick talk about that, he is too busy with the lower tier scrubs you mentioned.

        • dakine01 says:

          Yeah, truly they all do it (just they don’t all whine about it)

          As I get to probably see my Western Kentucky University Hilltoppers extend their FBS losing streak to 22 games today as they play in Lexington (after losing to Nebraska in Lincoln last week).

          And they get Indiana in Bowling Green next week and South Florida in Tampa the week after to probably bring the streak to 24 and counting (though I do have hopes they can break it next week)

      • john in sacramento says:

        Yea you’re right

        I was just trying to point out 1) the absurdity of the fawning brown-nosing ass kissing media (ESPN) towards anything and everything SEC and them never giving anyone other than the SEC (Big 10, PAC 10, Big 12, and everyone else) the benefit of the doubt; and 2) the hilarious schedules of some of the SEC teams

  9. Peterr says:

    Kansas looks like they’re trying to atone for getting beaten 6-3 by a D-IAA school (ND State) last week — but GA Tech isn’t rolling over for them.

    If KU goes down again this week, I’ll have some very sad folks in church tomorrow morning. (Not me, though, as my Northwestern Wildcats beat IL State 37-3 to remain undefeated.)

  10. randiego says:

    Hi all, quick TT appearance with the things that are on my mind:

    The Padres, with their $37M payroll, are in the middle of a pennant race but seem like they are about to play their way out of it. It’s been a fun run this year!

    The Chargers are on Monday Night against a division rival on the road – these are always tough games. KC has a lot of offensive weapons, so there will be a lot of points in this one. Take KC and the points but I think the Bolts D is a little better than the Chiefs D.

    Bolts have a relatively easy schedule this year, I’m hoping for a 10-6 record.

    Somebody please shut up the Jets! I’m guessing that the sophomore slump will hit Mr Franchise (or whatever the hell they call him) this year, and history will show that the Bolts were wise to give up LT and Cromartie. Addition by subtraction.

    By marriage, I am still forced to watch Texas Tech play, but I just don’t think that the Big 12 teams are nearly as nervous about playing Tommy Tuberville as they were Mike Leach.

    Raiders and Texans will be surprise teams this year.

    Ben Roethlisberger is a ginormous douchebag.

    • GulfCoastPirate says:

      By marriage, I am still forced to watch Texas Tech play, but I just don’t think that the Big 12 teams are nearly as nervous about playing Tommy Tuberville as they were Mike Leach

      They were not very impressive against SMU at all. I doubt they beat the Aggies this year.

    • freepatriot says:

      I just don’t think that the Big 12 teams sports reporters are nearly as nervous about playing questioning Tommy Tuberville as they were Mike Leach.

      fixed it for ya …

      (duckin & runnin)

  11. rmadelson says:

    James Madison down two to Va Tech with the ball in the red zone at the start of the 4th quarter. Not good for Boise State. I’m going to Art in the Park.



  12. sluggahjells says:

    Hope all has been well with everyone as of recent times. Will give a full NFL preview tomorrow over at TWD, but I’ve been busy of late to fully comment or help out here.

    But yes, the SEC’s non-conference schedule is always an absolute joke.

  13. bobschacht says:

    Apparently the starting QB for ND has something wrong with his right eye. They’re holding him out for one more quarter, and will probably try to patch him up @ half-time. Montana was third string(?), but he’s been relatively steady. It seems like he doesn’t make mistakes and is reasonably competent. If he’s like his Dad at all, he will get better as the game progresses.

    Bob in AZ

  14. masaccio says:

    I’m really worried about that eye thing. I didn’t see him take a blow, but if he did, there isn’t anything good this can be. Why the hell didn’t they take him to the locker room and get the neurologist and the opthamologist in to see him?

    • bobschacht says:

      That’s what I was wondering. From some of the comments, it wasn’t really an eye problem; I think he had a concussion that maybe affected his eye. But it didn’t take Crist long to strike again in his first drive of the second half. The game started to get boring while he was sitting on the bench, but now all the lights are on again.

      Bob in AZ

  15. bobschacht says:

    Geez. The Wolvereenies couldn’t get a first down, and then let Crist wander around in the backfield so long that he can throw a long TD pass. Lackadaisical rush! Bad coverage!

    Bob in AZ

  16. rmadelson says:

    Denard Robinson is a freak. Ran for 255 threw for 244. And that look is his eyes is something — he looks totally locked in to what he’s doing.

    • bobschacht says:

      That’s true, but if Crist had been able to play in the second quarter, the results may have been different.

      BTW, I don’t buy the excuse about Crist’s eye. I think he had a concussion that may have affected vision in his right eye. He better get a brain scan.

      Bob in AZ

  17. GulfCoastPirate says:

    What was that? Six seconds and the QB runs around in the backfield? Two very mediocre teams. There are any number of non-AQ teams that would beat either one.

  18. bmaz says:

    Monza Qualifying Results for P1-6

    1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 21.962s
    2. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 22.084s
    3. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 22.293s
    4. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1m 22.433s
    5. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 22.623s
    6. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 22.675s

  19. bobschacht says:

    Hey! Northern Arizona U. is giving the Arizona Mildcats some real competition: Mildcats ahead 17-10 at the half. It might have been even closer if the Lumberjacks hadn’t fiddled away their last two possessions with some really lame play calling.

    Bob in AZ

    • bmaz says:

      Those are the Devils and they are finally putting some distance between them and the Jacks. Jeebus, ASU has got to do better than this.

      • bobschacht says:

        Oops, my bad. Sun Devils it is. They’re pulling away now, though. I’ve stopped watching. At least NAU got a Touchdown as late as the end of the 3rd quarter.

        Bob in AZ

    • bmaz says:

      Stanford is good and has a great quarterback. I thought the Cardinal would win, but I thought UCLA was a lot better than they are. Jeebus they suck.

  20. BayStateLibrul says:

    Open bar

    Great ending, but disappointed, with Federer losing out. Federer had him on the ropes with two match points, but Joke-a-vich (sp) refused to die.

  21. Quebecois says:

    Hulkenberg is overwhelmed, bad driving in front of Webber. Kudos to Alonso and Ferrari. vettel pits on the last lap, and keeps his position, very cool.

    Today, in Montreal, the UCI protour is visiting. A bunch of the Tour de France riders are climbing the mountain 16 times. I’ll be taking pics all day. Yup, groupy day.

  22. BayStateLibrul says:

    Let’s burst-open the Bengals?

    “Once the clock is ticking and the ball is in motion, everyone will have a better sense of whether Cincinnati’s jazzed-up offense is more than Ochocinco and Terrell Owens and their motor-mouthed reality show, and whether the rejiggered New England defense, with five new starters, can keep its cool and cohesion under fire.” Powers, Globule

  23. freepatriot says:

    so much for disarming a minuteman

    and I really wanted to see chad johnson get rapped in the head with a musket butt

    oh well

    the dude still has a lot of stupid left in him

    maybe next week …

    (duckin & runnin)

  24. scribe says:

    Well, it’s ain’t pretty, but my Ben-less Stillers still chalk up a W. W’s are never ugly.

    In other news, so much for the Iggles running game with one of their lead RBs getting carried off with “an gruesome knee injury”.

    • phred says:

      So far not a pretty day for the FOX doubleheader all around, but the Pack heads into halftime with the lead 13-3, that’s good enough for me : )

      Congrats on your Stillers!

  25. scribe says:

    Well, that Donovan McNabb trade is looking really good now. Per the Faux crew, the Iggles have more yards of penalties than they do of offense through the first half of this game.

    Boos starting to rain down, as only they do in Philadelphia.

  26. bobschacht says:

    Jeez, the Cardinals look pretty hapless in the second half. Maybe its time to bring in Max Hall. They could use the excuse of the big hit on Anderson to make a change.

    Bob in AZ

  27. freepatriot says:

    lookin like Mike Singletary is gonna have to drop his pants again

    frisco looks like a clown college today

  28. bobschacht says:

    Anderson looking good in this last drive, culminating in a TD throw to Fitzgerald. Cardinals back in the lead. Their defense has been pretty good (allowing only 13 points in 3 quarters).

    Bob in AZ

  29. randiego says:

    Reason #47 why the NFL sucks: That Calvin Johnson TD.

    Detroit got seriously hosed on that call. I don’t care what the stupid rule says – that was a catch.

  30. bobschacht says:

    The Cowboys-‘skins game was odd: Washington actually showed some defense, And McNabb had enough going to win the game. But maybe the main thing was that the Dallas “offense” made too many mistakes. They just looked inept.

    Bob in AZ

    • scribe says:

      See mine @ 107 upthread.

      Philly will rue that trade, particularly with Designated Successor Kolb imitating Mop Top Tom of a couple years ago and getting knocked out in the first half of game one.

  31. Mary says:

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

    I will not post “Go Colts” on a Trash Talk thread ever again.

  32. scribe says:

    Flaco throwing darts. Puncturing Revis’ bubble by thwoing nothing his way. Yet.

    Buddy’s oops, Rex’s D is acting like Buddy Rex put out a bounty, or maybe a bonus for every penalty. B/c the J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS are getting penalized on every other play. Flagrant penalties. Four first downs for Baltimore as results of NYJ penalties. And Sanchez isn’t moving the ball woith a damn.
    Not much to show for all the commotion and turnovers.

    This is one time I’m rooting for Baltimore.