Nine Years of Nudity in American Detention
… the CIA interrogators also announced they planned to become Zubaydah’s “God.” They reportedly took his clothing as punishment, and reduced his human interaction to a single daily visit in which they would say simply, “You know what I want,” and then leave.
Jane Mayer, The Dark Side
In addition to degradation of the detainee, stripping can be used to demonstrate the omnipotence of the captor or to debilitate the detainee.
—JTF-Gitmo SERE SOP, December 10, 2002
Establishing the baseline state is important to demonstrate to the HVD that he has no control over basic human needs. The baseline state also creates in the detainee a mindset in which he learns to perceive and value his personal welfare, comfort, and immediate needs more than the information he is protecting. The use of conditioning techniques do not generally bring immediate results; rather, it is the cumulative effect of these techniques, used over time and in combination with other interrogation techniques and intelligence exploitation methods, which achieve interrogation objectives. These conditioning techniques require little to no physical interaction between the detainee and the interrogator. The specific interrogation techniques are:
a. Nudity. The HVD’s clothes are taken and he remains nude until the interrogators provide clothes to him.
—CIA memo describing combined interrogation techniques, December 30, 2004
Nudity: This technique is used to cause psychological discomfort, particularly if a detainee, for cultural or other reasons, is especially modest. When the technique is employed, clothing can be rewarded as an instant reward for cooperation.
—OLC “Techniques” memo, May 10, 2005, withdrawn by Barack Obama
Removal of clothing is different from naked.
—Douglas Feith, Testimony before House Judiciary Committee, July 15, 2008
PFC Manning was inexplicably stripped of all clothing by the Quantico Brig. He remained in his cell, naked, for the next seven hours. At 5:00 a.m., the Brig sounded the wake-up call for the detainees. At this point, PFC Manning was forced to stand naked at the front of his cell.
—Report from David Coombs on treatment of PFC Bradley Manning, March 3, 2011
A US Citizen on American Soil.
Obama and Gates are criminal!
And not just a U.S. citizen: a troop.
Why do Obama and Gates hate our troops?
Obama’s Abu Ghraib.
Dude, you own this one!
Charlie Savage of the NYT pays attention:
Soldier in Leaks Case Jailed in Cell Naked, Lawyer Says
And this part is strange to say the least:
But forcing Manning to remain naked last night and again tonight is not “violating the detainee’s privacy”?
Because if he explained it, he’d be telling us what’s in the secret bits of Appendix M.
Manning’s privacy, state secrets. It’s all the same to these people, convenient lies.
It will be interesting to see when and how the Obama administration’s DoJ pulls out its state secrecy claims to forestall Manning’s defense, but somehow avoids having the case thrown out – as it does when it’s the defendant – because its use prohibits the defendant from mounting a competent, informed defense.
If it isn’t “punitive”, I’m hard pressed to imagine another reason other than deliberate “coercion” for purposes of making Manning confess.
That’s the one – I never read anything as chillingly evil as that affidavit they filed when they were keeping Padilla in isolation, all about how they had to engage in evil for hours to days to weeks to months, until he became so dependent he would do anything they wanted him to do.
Jeh Johnson isn’t much to write home about these days, is he?
Martin Luther King would be so proud of today’s DOD.
And how about Michelle Obama? I would love love LOVE it if a journalist would ask her if she’s still proud of her country now.
(Did she KNOW her husband was campaign lying? Or is she as surprised/disgusted as we are?)
It isn’t “punitive” because they say so. This is how low they’ve sunk. This administration is showing itself to be just a bunch of two-bit thuggish despots.
Presumably Manning has a boil on his backside that needs airing, and admitting this would be an invasion of privacy. The brig brass are nothing if not caring persons.
The new brig “commander” is supposed to be a warrant officer, right. That’s below an ensign in rank, the lowest commissioned officer in the Navy. The odds that she’s making these decisions, or even that senior Navy commanders are making them seem modest. This is the Pentagon and Mr. Obama’s doing. It ought to be their political undoing.
Our war in Iraq and the corrupt muddle of a government we have installed there are not going well. Our war in Afghanistan is not going well; we just mistook a band of boys out collecting firewood for an evil band of brothers and mowed them down from helicopter gunships. Luckily, one of the ten survived. Our undeclared operations in Pakistan are not going well, what with Mr. Davis having become trigger happy or at least getting caught doing whatever we told him to do.
Who knows what our armchair civilian CIA and outsourced pilots in Colorado are doing with our multimillion dollar drones and their million dollar rocket payloads around the world. Plus, the world is now up in arms about the male rape and rape as a weapon of war thingy. Heck, they should see what it takes to get into Skull & Bones. So let’s let the hippies yank their hair out over a naked kid in the brig, why don’t we.
I can just imagine administration in-types laughing over that conversation before sauntering over to the Old Ebbitt Grill for happy hour. The old saying is still true: power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Is it possible that this is the military or rogue command flaunting their power over and to Obama — that Obama didn’t order this but has to pretend that he’s in command? I mean, has anyone checked the bat cave lately for Cheney and his undead spores?
And this from the Christian Science Monitor:
Regulars of Rancho Emptywheel will of course note that Ms. Kelly did not deny it was Mr. Assange, but instead pivoted smartly to say it wasn’t WikiLeaks, so I’m left to wonder how the Christian Science Monitor came up with “The Army denies Mr. Assange is the unnamed enemy”.
Not even Dick Cheney’s consigliere David Addington reads as thoroughly as Marcy.
I’d give almost anything to see EW grill Addington.
geez louise – a secret enemy? It’s time for everyone to pay off. No way could Palin have topped that one.
I never seem to run out of occasions to post this dead-on recap from the Onion:
Now that is perfect journalism.
You need to scroll down to the map “Finding the Enemy” — I’d post the url of the enlarge if I could figure out what it was. It’s just below this:
Don’t forget there’s TinyURL.
Joseph Heller nailed it. Who would have thought???
Julian Assange pointed this out himself on Democracy Now, that the US isn’t targeting dangerous leakers per se, but “whistleblowers”:
You know, that’s what I keep waiting for, the ghost in the machine to come out. Even Ashcroft stood up to Gonzales in the hospital room.
Obama could disinguish his era from Bush and Cheney’s if instead of seeing terrorists in everyone, he saw instead the truth, that everyone is a potential just and decent human being, and went looking for that. Really, that’s what he has to fear — the ghost of American humanity could be in ANYONE, and per @21 all it takes is for one person to start laughing at the naked emperor and his 9/11 OLC unitard finery for the delusion to break. What if, one by one, people start going sane?
The worm is turning. People are starting to admit that there is no legitimate reason for treating Pfc Manning this way.
A war was declared? I missed it. I thought the US was using military force to stabilize a couple countries.
Not a war.
A national humiliation.
So if the US isn’t legally at war how can it have enemies? Saying that this is a time of war, with its enemies, doesn’t make it so. They made it up to suit the circumstances. The US is officially not in “a time of war.”
Thanks! This seems to basic that it’s like asking where are the Emperor’s clothes … Oh.
There have to be consequences for skipping the formality of declaring war. This is one of them.
Obama: Evil torturing fuck.
And they take the time to put all of this in writing, and try to make it sound reasonable.
This is all being done in our name, and funded by every one of us.
I think it is overdue that we have a digital ‘time out crib’ where we can deposit our American politicians who are purposely showing bad behavior and taking dumps on our US Constitution. A list of particulars in hypertext form can explain to newbies why the time out is still in effect.
Sounds like Stephen Colbert’s “On Notice” and “Dead to Me” lists
Compare Bradley Manning’s pre-trial (“presumed innocent”) detention in military custody at the Marine Corps’s 30-cell Quantico brig in Virginia, to the “punitive post-conviction confinement” of the four “war criminals” (four of only six ever tried and convicted, four by plea bargain, by Military Commission in nine years) now sentenced and serving “war criminal” time at the Navy’s Guantanamo prison in Cuba, as recently detailed by the Miami Herald’s Carol Rosenberg:
[Yes, Chuck Todd/MSNBC, please do officially ask and insist on going to visit Bradley Manning at Quantico, with or without the company of one or more of your colleagues and cameramen.]
Why that MSN piece was very interesting for the WTF-do-we-do-now interaction plus:
1) Gate’s idea to attack Libya first! in order to establish a no-fly zone
2) The to-be-expected, complete glossing-over of the pre-trial treatment– yes it’s called torture– of Manning by Geoff “Psycho-babble Nonsense” Morrell.
So, kewl, Chuck Todd, you’re on. I am looking forward to seeing the broadcast of the raw film footage of the brig and Manning.
Charles David “Chuck” Todd (Wikipedia entry).
when, in your memory, has an american soldier been mistreated like this,
save as a prisoner-of-war by another nation?
manning is being denied the detention treatment that major nidal hassan has been granted.
manning is being denied the detention treatment that staff sergent calvin gibbs has been granted.
private bradley manning is being tortured – yes, unambiguously, being tortured.
governments torture individuals like private manning for one purpose – to extract confessions from them.
that behavior is as old as the 17th century british kings that the writers of the american constitution had in mind,
and as new as american presidents george bush’s and barack obama’s violation of the 5th amendment to the u.s. constitition.
obama may be the most amoral president the u.s. has had in its history.
by contrast, george was immoral.
and bradley manning?
he, an american soldier, and one of the few deservedly called a “hero”
is being tortured as if he were an al quaeda detainee caged in guantanamo.
there will be no end to manning’s abuse until EVERY F***KIN’ one of the responsible individuals has been named and identified publicly.
talking about manning’s treatment will not get manning relief.
posting a list of all officers in the chain of command up to dod sec gates WILL get a response,
particularly when contrasted with the prison treatment of major hassan and staff sgt gibbs.
Can I just say thank you for bringing up the Fifth Amendment? Because I happened to quote Justice Brandeis’s dissent in Olmstead the other day, and that was part of it. Olmstead was a 1928 case about whether evidence obtained by govt. illegal wiretapping could be used in court, and Brandeis saw it big, backward and forward:
THANK YOU for awesome Brandeis quote!
and orionATL @45 — yes, it’s really beautiful:
Besides which, I don’t think Manning is a criminal at all. He’s just being held and threatened with death by criminals. I would love to be on his jury.
Michael Moore on Larry King Live, July 27th, 2010 (youtube):
the other question of great import re: bradley manning’s detention treatment/torture is
who is it that the dod has brought in recently to manage private manning’s torture?
might it be former u.s. air force officer james mitchell?
let’s see the contract between some entity, perhaps mitchell, and dod.
Great collection of quotes, most revealing.
The torture of Brian Manning in front of the whole world, at the HQ of the Marines Corps, in full sight of FBI Behavioral Unit, is a remarkable moment in U.S. history, albeit one of the darkest.
Such crimes are like a gauntlet thrown down before the public, a challenge: what kind of country are you? Do you let your leaders torture people? Is this your version of “homeland”?
The message is clear from the Obama administration. There is no turning back. Either you’re with us or against us. This is what we will do to you. If you’re an uppity worker, we will fire you and destroy your union. If you’re a whistleblower or a dissident, we will torture you.
Today — last night — this became something less than hyperbole.
First I will say that I retired from the Navy, though that isn’t that of much relevance here.
There are occasions when in prisons, including brigs, people’s clothes are taken for a period or they are required to wear a particularly distinctive uniform or colored uniform and in some cases kept in individual lock-down which is Bradly’s case and in other cases billeted with others of like circumstance and separated from the general population.
This usually comes about because the individual has been caught doing something that the prison rules prohibit.
I think they are actually preventing further embarrassment for the soldier.
That is truly pathetic.
It’s for his own good, is that it?
Rank speculation and entirely unsupported by the facts and the reporting.
A moment of reflection.
1. In August 1814, the British invaded and captured Washington DC and burned the White House and the Capitol and other buildings before they retreated to their ships in and around the Chesapeake Bay. The flames were visible 40 miles away in Baltimore. I’m summarizing from here.
flashback to a year prior, when a mother and her 13-year-old daughter make a giant flag for the commander of Ft. McHenry in Baltimore, with stars two feet across from point to point.
2. From the USS Repose message board:
Continuing on Wikipedia:
There’s a whole diary page ya know.
Sorry, I felt strongly. Both my parents served in the Navy. I’m a Navy brat. I should have said I was replying to Gerald @36. I wanted him to feel something of what I feel.
Our constitution…is just a facade. Maybe it always has been…but today it feels we have given up on even the facade.
It makes me physically ill to read about this issue…and I think too many others feel the same way and so just ignore it. Somehow we have to reach people so that they take a stand. This is our “anti slavery”, our “women’s voter rights”. And if the past is any measure, it’s going to be a long drawn out journey to secure “civilization”.
thank you for the very relevant and meaningful quote from justice brandeis.
This business is making me so sick that it is disturbing my sleep.
It is perverse.
What kind of people has this country bred?
Remember how you feel now, when in a year or so the O-Bots come ringing asking you for your vote, your time to volunteer, your efforts or your money.
In that future time, remember how you now feel and ask yourself:
Then live your answer, and live with your answer.
You’re right of course, except that if the choice is between, say, Palin and Obama there’s no real choice but the latter still seems somewhat preferable, I suppose, although with no great enthusiasm. (My enthusiasm went out the window when Obama voted for retroactive Telcom immunity in 2008. Once that happened we knew the rest was coming.) What ever happened to the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party? It must be around somewhere, someplace.
Good thing we have divided government now, so Congress can act as a check on these Executive abuses of power.
Palm Tree Party
my wife and i have made that decision early. we are living with it now.
all money that would normally have gone to
the democratic national committee,
the senate democratic campaign committee,
the house democratic campaign committee
will go instead to the american civil liberties union.
our first check sent out in late january.
only individual democrats in our state whom we are certain support our civil liberties views (and we are blessed with a very fine congressman in that regard) will receive any money or other help from us.
As Bradley Manning stands in the buff it is Obama and his minions that have no dignity, no shame and absolutely no shred of humanity. Perhaps that’s a reflection of what we as a nation have become.
How many of these animals guarding their fellow, un-convicted, brother in arms cut their teeth in Gitmo or the Jr. Torture center Abu Ghrab ?
The next step in the Torture/ Murder/ Treason slide is? Torture is to murder the soul and when you go to far the body too.
A theme of mine: one’s choice of icon should be made with care, as should the matching of the icon to the location.
Compare this poem by Rumi, via Horton’s blog.
Hey Michelle hates being First Lady. She’s prolly withholding. O’s gotta get his rocks off somehow, so watching drone snuff videos, videos targeting children from helicopters, and nude Bradley Manning pics come in handy.
her and the kids love all the FLUFF STUFF
ya know summers with the King and Queen of Spain in the costa esmeralda
torture stuff…why bother their beautiful minds….wretch
morning all….i said all last nite….i stand mind boggled
Where is the doctor? Red Cross? Psychologist?
If he has to be stripped of his clothing for his own good, then something is horribly wrong!
that makes no sense,sorry…humiliation of a very young man….catholic priests domination….no way is this for his good…2 days 14 hrs…bs meter going wild
No, it makes no sense. NONE OF IT!
Why are they saying it is for his own good and that it will evade his privacy if they say why they are doing it? If there is something wrong with him mentally, bed wetting, tearing clothes, or whatever, then he needs a DOCTOR NOW!
fuff stuff,snuff stuff… a poem of sorts
Whereas Barack Obama is the Commander In Chief of the US Armed Forces, and there is clear evidence of torture being used by those Armed Forces against people they are holding as prisoners, should we not be demanding Obama’s impeachment for crimes against humanity? Or are we supposed to let it slide for purely partisan political reasons, because he claims to be a Democrat?
look forward,every day the past which we learn by is erased
Emperor Clarence Thomas Obama is showing us who is boss. We can be imprisoned and tortured if we piss him off. We are all subjects of a Fascist Police State.
What power on earth can free Pvt. Manning? What power can free us all? Only the power of solidarity. Only a united people, one for all and all for one, can throw off Fascist rule. We now have an incentive to give up our petty grievances against one another. The alternative is slavery.
While in High School in the ’70’s, I was told the Soviet Union was our enemy because:
1. They were a military state that occupied other peoples;
2. They were a prison state that jailed a large percentage of their population;
3. A citizen could be jailed w/o trial or a show trial;
4. Torture was conducted in the gulags in Siberia;
5. Only one political party existed;
6. Workers had no right to organize and slaved away for the benefit of the elite;
7. The press was a tool for the government.
It appears that elite capitalists have much in common with elite communists.
Hear, hear! I was taught that about the former USSR, as well, along with the fact that the former Soviet media was only & all propoganda for the state, and that Soviet citizens had limited access to “real news & info.” That’s why the USA funded “Radio Free America,” which, back in the day, wasn’t a propoganda tool.
More and more and more, it just seems like the rightwing elites sat around taking detailed notes on how the former Soviets ruled their serfs in order to enact similar programs here in the USA. Seems as if USA elites have been extremely successful at emulating our former supposed “enemies” of freedom, justice & the rule of law.
Kochs started their empite in Commie Russia
I got the same ‘Soviet bad/US good’ indoctrination from (mainly) Reader’s Digest. Another point was ‘Under Soviet rule, people can be persecuted for speaking their minds or reading unauthorized materials, and all the news they get has been pre-authorized by the central government.’
Obama, Gates & the rest of ’em are all War Criminals. Period.
Free Pfc Manning NOW!
Which reporter will ask about this in the next White House press briefing? Helen Thomas? oh, yeah; I forgot…
How long before those speaking out against the detention practices involving Manning will, themselves,be accused of aiding “the enemy “?
I believe this matter is a standing shot across the bow for all to see as a warning in advance of future operations against dissent. It also shows how evil and hard Obama can really be. The real Obama is very dangerous to our freedom. Bush was despicable, Obama is beyond despicable. A very very far cry from “hope and change” and “no one is above the law”.
While you guys are hyperventilating, absolutely correctly, about your country setting out to destroy its own very young soldier, we are keeping up with the Middle East, especially Lybia.
The International Criminal Court, which obviously the USA doesn’t recognise because half its govermnement would be indicted there, is setting up to charge Gadaffi’s people with being brutal to their own citizens just because they are disloyal. See any parallels?
Tell all the Truth but tell it slant—
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth’s superb surprise
As Lightning to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind—
it’s the “gradually” part that troubles me to no end.
Free Bradley Manning Now!
Anonymous has apparently taken quite an interest in Bradley Manning.
Sadly, that’s like raising the middle finger to a SWAT team member while holding a bank teller hostage. It’s unlikely to help Mr. Manning, and may further his troubles. Anonymous’ goodwill is built on its work, not its self-promotion.
I know what you mean, EOH. BTW, here’s an article by Klare which provides an excellent historical overview of the ME uprisings and oil–the interrelations and probable outcomes. Seems you and I had an extremely brief exchange about this not too long ago. If not, then pardon this (and my memory, too).
Margaret, Bradley has representation. Indeed, I think he has many lawyers and they could detail the reasons that the brig has taken the actions that have upset you. Since they (the lawyers) haven’t been forthcoming about these reasons, I assume that Bradley is o.k. with the brig not disclosing to the public the reasons.
Bradley is a young man in deep trouble. Give him some privacy.
“Margaret, Bradley has representation. Indeed, I think he has many lawyers and they could detail the reasons that the brig has taken the actions that have upset you. Since they (the lawyers) haven’t been forthcoming about these reasons, I assume that Bradley is o.k. with the brig not disclosing to the public the reasons.
Bradley is a young man in deep trouble. .”
Give him some privacyIt’s time to stop TORTURING A U.S. SOLIDER
One hell of a set of assumptions. Forced nudity is not a therapeutic treatment.
Unlike his jailers, Mr. Manning’s lawyers are bound by confidentiality rules. Any comment commending their silence and Manning’s consent to it assumes that they have had unrestricted access to their client, who remains mentally able to assist in his own defense. Those conditions do not exist in Gitmo and Mr. Manning is being treated as if he were one of them.