Another Violent Foot Soldier Radicalized by Donald Trump
In this post, I noted that many of the people who engaged in the most violent action on January 6 were not known to be part of one of the organized militia groups, which seem instead to have set off and channeled the violence of others. I described how the only explanation that Emanuel Jackson gave for twice assaulting cops was that after attending Trump’s rally, he followed the crowds to the Capitol and beat up several cops, including with a baseball bat, in order to prevent the certification of the vote.
In updates, I noted how the son of the guy whose dad was pictured carried a Confederate flag through the Capitol punched out windows because, after attending the rally, he followed someone yelling directions in a bullhorn (which could be Alex Jones) and then followed the instructions of someone else to clean out the glass in a window. And a former Marine beat up several cops after he, “got caught up in the moment” after marching down from the Ellipse.
The charging documents from the recent arrest of Kyle Fitzsimons provides another example of someone who got inspired by Trump and went onto first grab and then charge the cops trying to protect the Capitol.
The affidavit quotes from a local article, in which he described being “asked” by President Trump to go give weak Republicans the kind of boldness they needed to take back the country.
“The speeches from the morning were overtly preaching the election was not over, there was a path to victory through decertification, there was a plan to delay the certification by the House and Senate and then state legislatures would convene and (certify) the right result.” FITZSIMONS stated that as the rally at the Ellipse ended, the crowd was asked by President Trump to walk to the Capitol to “give our Republicans, the weak ones … the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.”
In another interview he described that “Trump is a lion leading an army of lambs through ‘lawfare'”
After the rally he went and changed into his work clothes, a butcher’s uniform, then walked to the Capitol and fought the cops until he got hit in the head with a police baton.
Two witnesses who know him describe that before January 6, he was known for his right wing beliefs, his gun ownership, and his racism, but not for being a violent person.
Yet on January 6, after hearing Trump’s request to go to the Capitol and embolden other Republicans to steal an election, he did so, violently.
Here’s my running list of the people who, as of yesterday, had been charged with intimidating or assaulting police.
- Daniel Page Adams, whose arrest affidavit describes engaging in a “direct struggle with [unnamed] law enforcement officers” (his cousin, Cody Connell, described the exchange as a “civil war”).
- Zachary Alam, who pushed cops around as he was trying to break into the Speaker’s Lobby.
- Matthew Caspel, who charged the National Guard.
- Scott Fairlamb, who was caught in multiple videos shoving and punching officers (one who whom is identified but not named); Cori Bush has said she was threatened by him last summer.
- Kyle Fitzsimons, who charged officers guarding the doorway of the Capitol.
- Alex Harkrider, who after being filmed fighting with police at the door of the Capitol, posted a picture with a crowbar labeled, “weapon;” he was charged with abetting Ryan Nichols’ assault.
- Michael Foy, a former Marine who was caught on multiple videos beating multiple cops with a hockey stick.
- Robert Giswein, who appears to have ties to the Proud Boys and used a bat to beat cops.
- Emanuel Jackson, whom videos caught punching one officer, and others show beating multiple officers with a metal baseball bat.
- Chad Jones, who used a Trump flag to break the glass in the Speaker’s Lobby door just before Ashli Babbitt was shot and may have intimidated three officers who were pursuing that group.
- Edward Jacob Lang, who identified himself in a screen cap of a violent mob attacking cops and who was filmed slamming a riot shield into police and later fighting them with a red baseball bat.
- Mark Jefferson Leffingwell, whom a Capitol Police officer described in an affidavit punching him.
- Patrick Edward McCaughey III, who was filmed crushing MPD Officer Daniel Hodges in one of the doors to the Capitol.
- Ryan Nichols, who was filmed wielding a crowbar and yelling, “This is not a peaceful protest,” then spraying pepper spray against police trying to prevent entry to the Capitol.
- Dominic Pezzola, a Proud Boy who stole a shield from cops.
- Ryan Samsel, who set off the riot by giving a cop a concussion; he appears to have coordinated with Joe Biggs.
- Robert Sanford, who was filmed hitting Capitol Police Officer William Young on the head with a fire extinguisher.
- Peter Schwartz, a felon who maced several cops.
- Barton Wade Shively, who pushed and shoved some police trying to get into the Capitol, punched another, then struck one of those same cops later and kicked another.
ew, 20 and 21 have the same names as 18 and 19. I think that may be incorrect.
It raises questions about whether they normally take speeches that literally.
TY. I think I’ve fixed it.
Now I’m hoping that these statements get used against Trmp and the other speakers at the Ellipse.
Would guilty pleas from these people be useful in prosecuting Trump for incitement? Do you get to use that kind of evidence?
Maybe.
Redeemable Insurrectionists?
Could be a Reality Show for the Senate.
3 witnesses per day,,, polls pick the winner…
… until the Rs say Uncle and vote to convict.
I just noticed that ^ ends with a Haiku.
Ew,
Thank you again for your documentary expertise cataloging groomed, manipulated, incited, domestic terrorist martyrs for Trump.
That was at the end of Trump’s rally speech. [He started speaking at 12:00 PM]:
1:10 PM [VIDEO]
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346882653300137985
This is what one guy posted on Parler:
This was from “Fight for Trump”: Video Evidence of Incitement at the Capitol [Goodman, Hendrix] at Just Security.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/25/some-key-gaps-in-the-january-6-story/#comment-879704
I keep trying to call attention to Trump’s use of the first person in his speech–as in, “We’re going to the Capitol…” In the first place, it is such BS–he had no intention of walking anywhere but back to his cozy quarters in the White House. In the second place–and this may become relevant in legal processes–he created the impression that he was personally engaged in a leadership role in the activities which ensued.
Yes, and Roger Stone did the same thing the day before.
Alex JONES did “march” from the rally to the Capitol, as he was DIRECTED to do by “the White House” on 1/3/21.
Was it Alex Jones who announced through a bullhorn during the walk to the Capitol that Trump would be at the west entrance?
East…and YES.
I’m sure I read/heard somewhere that JONES was supposed to go to the Northeast corner of the Capitol, but can’t find that…so not sure about exact location. SORRY about that.
Just Security has Parler video of JONES trying to get the crowd to go to the “other side” of the Capitol at 1:36 PM and 1:54 PM because that’s where TRUMP “is going to be”.
I’m not familiar enough with the buildings to know where he’s located when he’s talking.
Transcript and link to article/video here:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/25/some-key-gaps-in-the-january-6-story/#comment-879704
There’s some more NEW INFO about this starting here: https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/02/06/another-violent-foot-soldier-radicalized-by-donald-trump/#comment-881532
[And it WAS NORTHEAST!]
Pretty much right out of the gate of this speech [ie: just after bashing and whining about the media] Trump tries to DEFLECT RESPONSIBILITY for TRUMP and STONE’s whole StoptheSteal “movement” ONTO his supporters:
12:02 PM TRUMP:
Nice catch. Yeah, that certainly seems to be incitement. In the end, there’s no way to “stop the steal” without action, and this is the solicitation of it.
I agree.
The problem with Trump’s directing tens of thousands of people to March to the capitol is that according to permits and official programming, the event was limited to Freedom Plaza which means his directions not only knowingly breeched all sorts of security, health and accommodation issues, but as you pointed out it also appeared he was following a plan that had been laid out in advance.
With evidence of family members and close associates meeting with those involved in planning or participating in the violence, I’m not sure how his defense is going to explain the coincidence?
Link to permit
https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/21-0274-Rally-to-Revival-Freedom-Plaza-permit_Redacted.pdf
p 1 states the locations of event .
p 2 states there is to be no march
Oh! I hadn’t seen these, yet. Thank you!
Sorry facts are similar but what I posted was a link to a related rally on the 4th.
Here is an article that provides links to all three permits that were issued for the rally’s held Jan 4-6.
The article also notes that the permit issued for JAN 6th was initially for 5000 people and was raised to 30,000.
There was a document floating around Twitter claiming that the request for the increase was made the night before the rally which obviously isn’t true but it would be interesting to know more about it.
Vicks, the link is missing. Could you provide the link for the permit relevant to 6 January instead of 5 January?
https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/01/05/heres-what-we-know-about-the-pro-trump-rallies-that-have-permits/
Have there been any charges filed regarding attacks on non-police yet? The press was also targeted in pre-riot online postings and I’m curious how the assaults on journalists are being handled, since they don’t seem to be purely random acts.
One on the press–a guy who was trying to burn their equipment.
FBI has recently been sending out wanted posters of those people, so I assume there will be more.
Adding, while Eric Munchel has not been charged with assault on William Turton it was mentioned in a detention memo.
Thanks. I’d be really interested if the news orgs will ever decide that protecting their employees will ever need to go past the level of sternly but vaguely worded letters.
Most news orgs provide training, safety equipment, legal support and require risk assessment and/or specialized training before staff take on hostile environment or otherwise high-risk assignments. Freelancers are left to their own devices, though many organizations – NPPA, RCFP, CPJ, RFP, Frontline Freelancers Union, Rory Peck Trust and others offer grants for training programs and/or equipment, publish guidelines for covering unrest, offer downloadable risk assessment forms, legal advice and services, etc. Further, org’s like NPPA and others do 1st amendment training with LE around the country and have been actively involved in things like trying to pass federal shield laws and other measures designed to afford protection to reporters in the field. J-Schools are beginning to adopt safe-practice education and training as well. Most of these efforts are supported, funded and encouraged by publishers and editorial desks at news organizations. It’s not perfect, and it’s not enough, but it’s a lot more than just writing letters.
What is desperately missing from the press at the editorial and management level is any serious commitment to addressing the attacks as a systemic problem of the right. There is a great parallel to the way they treated the leadup to the Capitol attack. The threats and warnings were all there, but the press as an institution refused to cover it as more than posturing.
Last summer, reporters at the street level were being deliberately targeted by police who were clearly coordinating with violent right wingers, but at the editorial level there was no attempt to establish a narrative beyond “protests raging.”
The Trump press office was putting White House correspondents literally in harms way with dangerous conditions that infected reporters with Covid, and yet this did not lead to a narrative of right wing assault on the press. Trump inspired a mail bomber who targeted CNN, and yet CNN’s managed never cinnected the dots.
It’s not as if the press won’t create narratives. “Diner people still love Trump” was a running and wildly misleading trope for years.
But as long as the editorial culture refuses to treat violence as anything more than a series of isolated incidents unconnected to right wing politicians, they are setting up their reporters on the ground for even greater tragedies.
What’s also nuts is that the collaboration is a great story — far more interesting than why Biden took a trip home to Delaware, or phony thumbsucking pieces on bipartisanship. But it requires dropping the notion that both parties are basically the same, and editors would rather eat their right foot than admit what they’ve been missing for years.
In my opinion the MSM management just doesn’t care all that much about their workers. they’re all replaceable and the only thing management is interested in is making a profit.
BobCon, I can’t fathom the prestige media’s continued willful ignoring of the places where I’ve been seeing the alt-right gaining momentum for years. It’s been a month since NYT and WaPo suddenly discovered Parler, just in time for it to (predictably) vanish. But the pro-Trump/anti-democratic movement has other places to go; like Parler before them, these sites are written off as unworthy of investigation by the lofty media. (People including Ben Collins and Brandy Zadrozny have been covering them brilliantly for years, not that you would know it unless you follow them.) Access journalism has glamour. What I do is mostly boring/disgusting/depressing, but I was not taken by surprise January 6.
The article from the Rochester Voice is notably sympathetic. It reports Fitzsimons saying he was in Washington “because if the Republic were going to die that day, I wanted to be there to witness it.”
The article continues “In fact, it was Fitzsimons who almost died when a police officer clubbed him over the head with a baton…”
Some of his words are I think from a call he made to a meeting of Selectmen and women. He got an even more sympathetic reception there.
Trump’s Big Lie rhetoric has done so much harm.
I think maybe Fitzsimmons got a sympathetic reception because almost the first thing he did when he got home was publicize his behaviour and tell lies about it. In other words, knowing he was liable to arrest for beating up (or trying to) the cops, he decided to put out a different narrative, that he was pushed to the front, where he got beaned with a baton, and promptly retreated. I don’t think either the local reporter or the Selectpersons (?) meeting really stopped to think through that just in entering the Capitol grounds he was breaking the law, or that his story (non-violent protest gone terribly terribly wrong) didn’t really make sense.
Sure, but they didn’t stop to think because they were predisposed to believe any excuse. That harm I mentioned goes deep and wide.
The relatively sympathetic approach in the Rochester Voice may have to do with two things:
1. This is his hometown paper and they treat him as a human/resident, talking to neighbors, and noting his family etc., but also
2. The Voice is a bit of an unusual online only newspaper declaring in a small graphic at the bottom of some stories “Most of the Media is not mainstream; it’s on the left bank.”
Wider local coverage in Maine is far less sympathetic. The story on Fitzpatrick’s arrest in the state’s largest paper the Press Herald begins:
It goes on to detail the DC charges against him, plus past questionable comments, and finally police interesting him as a suspect in the recent planting of a suspicious package at the Portland Museum of Art.
Full article here:
https://www.pressherald.com/2021/02/05/mainer-accused-of-participating-in-capitol-riot-appears-before-judge/
Thank you for that input, I’m a long way from Maine.
Never underestimate the potential for “smallness” among local elected officials.
In September I was watching a regular meeting of the county commissioners. One of them said words to the effect: “You get vaccinated to protect yourself, not to protect other people”. I was stunned. The person didn’t understand two things about public health…The words “public” and “health”.
A lot of these elected officials are right in the demographic of those middle class seditionists.
And I’m a little frosted about James Fallow’s book “Our Towns”. He and his wife parachute (almost literally) a select group of small to medium cities in the 95th percentile, and somehow want to convince us that the rest of the country can operationalize whatever they “discovered”. At least I think so…I’m not sure I can force myself to read the remaining 80%.
Lol. I am a former elected local official.
Mostly, folks are excellent and well meaning , but not always. But that’s true everywhere.
No idea about the Fallows piece.
Your sentiment about vaccinating for self vs others stood out to me. Is it not correct that wearing a mask and social distancing are the measures that protect others, while getting the vaccine IS for self protection? Getting the vaccine helps that person’s body recognize and combat the virus. Getting the vaccine does not decrease the odds of coming in contact and harboring the virus which would imply an individual who has been vaccinated and then tested positive could still infect others.
Strikes me that is something not yet well enough known and documented yet, i.e. the difference between personal protection and transmissibility protection. And this is what medical providers I know are practicing; even after full vaccination, they are using masks, distancing, PPE etc. Still a long way to go on all of it.
Right. Not enough data yet. Man would it be great if vaccination actually did decrease transmissibility because of less severe symptoms/power sneeeezing/nose running non stop for days.
And it may well be! And you would hope at least partially, but I’ve sure not seen any compelling data either way yet.
“I think maybe Fitzsimmons got a sympathetic reception because almost the first thing he did when he got home was publicize his behaviour and tell lies about it.”
It’s an old strategy- when in danger of punishment, be the first kid to get to Mom with the story.
The Selectman Meeting call was revealing about local political leadership – it wasn’t a pretty picture.
As noted, the butcher was trying to create a narrative to protect his illegal and violent behavior.
Fitzsimmons’ lies were obvious to anyone demonstrating a modicum of critical thinking.
Listening to the full call, including the selectman comments afterwards, is a worthy exercise of time. This bunch of politicians were in agreement with Fitzsimmons, as they fawned over his commentary and offered him fulsome praise. Ironically they pointedly distinguished themselves from politicians, while expressing disrespect for politicians as a group.
And there is the obvious question: what did taking this call do to advance the council’s and their constituents business?
Nothing Norman Rockwell here.
Indeed. It smacks of sedition, pure and simple. Basically, rather than doing the business of running the community, these jokers are supporting a movement to subvert the Constitution.
“How you doing out there?
I said, how you doing
out there?
We want to say hello
to all of you out there
who worked so goddamn hard
on Operation Brute Force.”
https://youtu.be./Decko2h-S20
Type: “Eclipse” for “Ellipse”
TY
“Trump is a lion leading an army of lambs through ‘lawfare’”…
More like a hyena leading lambs to the slaughter, all whilst taking them for every last cent he can along the way…
What an absolutely bottomless pit of malevolence, greed, resentment, and narcissistic neediness he’s turned out to be…
And what an apparently endless gaggle of suckers he’s found to fleece…
Interesting, how our *New Terrific* President Biden has made the prescient decision to DENY INTELLIGENCE BRIEFINGS to *twice impeached* former president Trump!!!
Here is hoping there are no individuals in government that are willing to share their own briefing knowledge with the aforementioned sack of _____! Michael Flynn’s brother immediately comes to mind.
How much influence could also be here, in this matter?
From Twitter:
“Steve Vladeck
@steve_vladeck
15h
It’s a sign of the times that Justice Barrett’s very first signed opinion since joining #SCOTUS is a one-paragraph concurrence in a “shadow docket” ruling granting an emergency injunction pending appeal—on religious liberty grounds …”
Yeaaaaah…
I was watching the Biden interview w/ Nora O’Donnell when Joe said that part, out loud… that made my day…
NO security briefings for EX-President Trump!
No security briefing for you!
No security briefing for you!
No security briefing for you!
(spoken w/ best Soup Nazi imitation voice)
EXCELLENT tangent! Whatever happened to the Soup Nzi?
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Well, here is another off topic meander — Ruth Marcus, WAPO “Opinion: You probably haven’t heard of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. That’s going to change.” …
Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson has worked as a public defender! She envisions the “law as a mechanism for achieving justice.” [Hooray!]
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Ruth Marcus, WAPO “Opinion: You probably haven’t heard of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. That’s going to change.” …
[here’s more:]
“Stated simply,” she wrote, “the primary takeaway from the past 250 years of recorded American history is that Presidents are not kings.” (Disclosure: Jackson is presiding over a defamation suit filed against The Post by the Trump campaign.)
But a more obscure ruling, involving William Pierce, a deaf D.C. man who was imprisoned for 51 days after a domestic dispute, may offer more insight into Jackson’s belief in law as a mechanism for achieving justice. Corrections officials did nothing to accommodate Pierce’s disability, as the law requires, ignoring his repeated requests for a sign-language interpreter.
Jackson assailed prison officials’ “willful blindness regarding Pierce’s need for accommodation.” She said it was “astonishing” for D.C. to claim that it had done enough, when “prison employees took no steps whatsoever” to figure out how to help him. And she took the unusual step of ruling for Pierce even before trial.” …
It isn’t like he was the only deaf person in DC. There’s a university there for the Deaf, and it’s fairly well known. (My nephew and his wife (JD from UCLA) are both graduates of Gallaudet.)
Any news yet on suspects in the death of Brian Sicknick, the Capitol police officer killed in the riot?
Hoping that fire extinguisher had some identifiable prints. (Rest in peace Officer Sicknick.)
It’s been reported an autopsy found no blunt force trauma. Report could be wrong.
CNN had that and that no video showing a fire extinguisher attack (or any obviously causative attack) has been found.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html
The “Hockeystick Guy”, Michael John Foy, was noted as hitting a fallen Capitol police officer repeatedly over the head in a tweet tip in his Statement of Facts. The exact tweet
stated “This is the man that killed the police officer. He hit him with a hockey-stick over and over in the head.” It further indicates that this tip has not been corroborated or confirmed by law enforcement. Foy concealed the hockey stick by using it as the flagpole for a Trump flag and then when he got to the West Entrance of the Capitol, shed the flag and used the hockey stick as a weapon. This low-life needs to go to prison for a long, long time…
Here is Foy’s Statement of Facts:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1357476/download
I’m a long time reader with a question that I haven’t seen asked or answered and that is, where did all the bats come from? Were they supplied or just happen to be laying around, or did they just happen to have one with them? And pardon in advance for the sentance structure.
Pretty sure the bats were brought by the wielders.
Except for the occasional practice for the annual Congressional baseball game, you don’t find bats lying around the Capitol.
No, the bats in the hands of the insurrectionists are one of those little things that suggest prior planning.
Think about all the things someone might bring to a protest. Snacks and beverages, to keep up your energy and hydration, are always important. Signs are good, and other symbols of your protest. Maybe some bullhorns, or other ways of amplifying your message.
Bats are different. A bat isn’t exactly heavy, but it is also not something you can stick in your pocket when you aren’t using it. So you’ve got to lug it around for hours on end, which gets old pretty quickly. So it’s not something you bring unless you have a pretty good idea you are going to need to swing it — and anyone who has been charged with assault using a bat will face a lot of difficult questioning about why they brought one with them.
(And no need to apologize in advance for your sentence structure. This place is pretty forgiving when it comes to sentence structure (and even moreso when it comes to spelling), as long as it doesn’t screw up the point you’re trying to make.)
Organizers of liberal protests and rallies at the Capitol have noted that in recent years they have had to go through checkpoints where things like signs with sticks and flags on poles are prohibited.
I don’t know if we’ve had any explanation why this didn’t happen. I don’t know if there has been an official explanation behind the permitting by the US Park Service either.
Someone who should know once told me that if the police catch you with a baseball bat and you’re not on your way to play in a game, they consider the bat to be a weapon (broadly speaking). Kind of like getting caught w/ bolt cutters after dark… the cutters are considered a burglary tool, I believe.
Don’t know how hard of a rule that is or even if it’s true, but that’s what I was told… so I have a hard time believing that all those bats wouldn’t be seen as weapons, period, no matter what excuse the possessors offered up. I’m guessing the same might be said for the crow bar and hockey stick seen in some footage.
And I was wondering about that while watching that day… how the heck did so many baseball bats turn up there? Geez, not a good look for the ‘peaceful demonstrators’…
I read something yesterday about a security breach at Joint Base Andrews wherein an intruder managed to access the flight line; the USAF is treating this as a serious security breach and has ordered a review of security at all its’ bases.
Given that Air Force One is based there, and an intruder managed to get that close to it, it’s understandable why the AF is so upset. If that incident was such a serious security breach, why isn’t what happened at the Capitol being seen in the same light? How in god’s name did those yahoos get that close to the VP so easily?
I wonder how Mike Pence is doing these days… he seems to have vanished… and I hear he and Trump haven’t spoken since the 6th.
I just googled it, for my own edification…
Seems as though the issue w/ the bats is premeditation?
Hard to believe all the individuals who just happened to show up at the Capitol that day had anything close to a valid reason for having a bat, or for that matter, a hockey stick or crowbar, with them.
Plus, it ain’t baseball season. But, hey, maybe the bats represent their mental state?
I think that is what Peterr was getting at.
And then there’s the manner in which the beams and boards to assemble a complete gallows found their way to the Capitol. The best explanation for that would appear to be that the same space platform used by the Jewish laser beams fired into California forests used its transporter device to beam the finished gallows to the Capitol. Either that or it was planned well in advance.
And a very professional-looking noose made of what looked like 3/4-inch rope, which isn’t usual.
And it was freaking orange!
What really smacked to me of prior planning was all the crutches being used as weapons in the melee. Of course: If you pretend to need one, who will challenge you? Then when the moment comes, it converts to a tool for dealing blunt force trauma. Someone involved in organizing this is being hailed as a tactical genius.
I remember seeing footage on the news of one rioter who had the American flag zip tied to a baseball bat, where he was using the baseball bat as a flag pole.
He probably thought it was a clever way to sneak in a *weapon.*
Worked, too.
8-(
For people who were caught storming the Capitol is “Trump told me to” a confession of spontaneous motivations or is it a stab at a Hail Mary defense?
“Trump told me to” that line didn’t work when we were kids, you know the line about my sister/brother/friend told me to. Well here in Vancouver, B.C. a lot of Moms used to ask, well if they told you to jump off the Lions Gate Bridge would you have.
Trump told me to is not a defense. None of rioters looked like people under the age of 3.
I suspect mothers everywhere have a version of that line. It gets used right into high school.
Yeah, but they sure behaved like they were under the age of 3…
That’s what makes it a Hail Mary. What’s a better defense for people who were caught red-handed?
Nuremberg was supposed to put an end to this defense.
Huh, because it sure works for cops all the time.
Yes, and I’m not saying I agree with the defense. I’m saying that’s what they’re doing. When Matthew Miller says he was “merely following the directions” of Trump, that’s not the language of a confession, it’s the language of a defense. https://twitter.com/zoetillman/status/1358782335932653568?s=21
This article provides some practical insight into how words can incite violence:
“Trump impeachment trial: Decades of research show language can incite violence” – Kurt Braddock, American University School of Communication
February 5, 2021
…..
“The research shows that the messages people consume affect their behaviors in three ways….”
…..
“In the case of Donald Trump, the relationship between words and actions never seems clear. But make no mistake, there is a scientifically valid case for incitement.”
“Decades of research have demonstrated that language affects our behaviors – words have consequences. And when those words champion aggression, make violence acceptable and embolden audiences to action, incidents like the insurrection at the Capitol are the result.”
https://theconversation.com/trump-impeachment-trial-decades-of-research-show-language-can-incite-violence-154615
Almost everybody has experience of being carried away by their enthusiasm, including the thrill of fight, of the fight/flight response. We can be motivated to do all sorts of things in the thrill of the moment. The collective moment can be very powerful.
via Merriam/Webster
Exhort is a 15th-century coinage. It derives from the Latin verb hortari, meaning “to incite,” and it often implies the ardent urging or admonishing of an orator or preacher.
In the biography, after Chapter 11, “Donald Does Bankruptcy”, comes Chapter 12, “Donald Does Demagoguery”.
Putin’s party will not hold Trump accountable.
Putin has the oil.
The art of the deal?
American servitude…
The party of Lincoln who ended an energy monopoly and assault on republic is no more.
They lie just like a slaveowner and or Nazi…
Truth 101 missed like a J-Rod whiffing on a Pedro fastball…
Putin’s Party does Trump’s work, which is Putin’s work…
Divide America…
At some level every one has violence in them, o.k. there may be some exceptions, but in this instance Trump tapped into something. Don’t know what it was, but there have been speakers who could get people do to their bidding. there was Hitler. Enoch Powell–some one I knew saw him speak in in a park in England and couldn’t believe how powerful his speaking was. We had only to watch Trump on the campaign trail.
Not knowing who these people actually are, can’t say what they have in common, except they’re white and male and I’m not making any inferances about that because well we won’t go there and its sexist.
Perhaps some thought they were doing the right thing, it is why revolutions get started, well Castro certainly could command a crowd and led a revolution. Its not the same as 6 Jan.
They were a very unhappy bunch of people and at some level they felt betrayed. Some may have just wanted a fight. What I don’t get in all of this is that they wanted to hang Pence. I do know if you whip up a group of people, they do forget who and what they are. Its called mass hysteria and perhaps that is all it was.
One could argue the U.S.A. is a violent country. this is just another incident. However, when you look at the acts of violence after the end of the Civil War to date, by white men,, this might just be a symptom of that. It may never end. This, in my opinion, is learned behaviour. You need to hate to carry on like that. Now it maybe some people work their aggression out in sports, work, etc. and these people didn’t, couldn’t. Perhaps there a lot of people with mental health problems, roll them together and you have that riot.
We have seen revolutions through history but in most cases people were aggreaved about fairness, lack of basic human needs and rights, but this riot occurred in the U.S.A. and the rioters all looked reasonably well fed, clothed, its a free country, etc.
Perhaps in the end it was just a mob of idiots who felt they were loosing their “white priviledge”‘ and they weren’t going to stand for it. Trumped tapped into it and we got, what we got. It wasn’t a surprise to me, but I am still shocked and still can’t figure it out.
” . . . they were white and male . . . ” Actually, a surprising number of them were White women. It remains notable to me how far so many women will go, in this case violently and without dignity, in furtherance of a patriarchal system that does not see them as fully human.
Ms. Wheeler is cited in the article at the link below:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us...
one more time . . .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-trap-testify-b1798644
(Here’s the working link – you left out the “s” in https)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-trap-testify-b1798644.html
Yahoo picked up the story:
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-walked-jiu-jitsu-trap-165515413.html
Mong @ 5:05PM
Speaking of bats, I hope they weren’t Nellie Fox model bats, known for their large barrels and large handles.
As a kid, who could field, but not hit a damn, I used Nellie’s bat for singles and doubles.
What a disgrace for those rioters to yield to such violence.
O/T – “U.S. District Judge for the District of Columbia Emmet Sullivan is going to assume senior status, a semi-retirement role that will still allow Sullivan to handle some cases while also giving President Joe Biden and Senate Democrats an opportunity to fill a vacancy.”
https://lawandcrime.com/judiciary/now-that-joe-biden-is-president-judge-emmet-sullivan-has-decided-to-open-up-a-judicial-vacancy/
This got covered in the comments to an earlier post. It’s nothing unusual.
I understand “helmet boy” who was bashing the doors with a helmet was finally named and arrested. He is the one in the Sullivan video who Sullivan called out as possibly having some connection to the police. I still find that Sullivan brother (supposedly “Antifa”) to be questionable, and certainly not Antifa.
On another point, in the recent Chicago 7 film, one of them was charged with inciting speech, maybe it was Rennie Davis who just died? Just an aside that comes to my mind. The overarching case the State tried to prove was that the group had coordinated their actions prior to the events at the 1968 Chicago convention. It was really not true, though some of them had prior knowledge of each other in the anti-war movement.
Organizing today on the internet is quite a lot easier, it seems. But inciting speech is not a new or particularly novel charge. The old saw IOKIYAR comes to mind, tho.
Yahoo News, WH correspondent Hunter Walker:
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1358243702754267139
9:38 PM · Feb 6, 2021
https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1358443109781274625
nycsouthpaw responds with this amazing graphic [what is the correct term?]:
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1358443650070564869
10:52 AM · Feb 7, 2021
those green pixels on the cellphone map certainly look incited to me!
Yeah? How are you going to lay the foundation? Who will be the witness to support it? How are you going to get past Rules 401-403 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure? How about Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the FRCrP? People are getting way ahead of themselves. A real criminal jury trial is not the TV and news reporting stuff you think it is. You have no idea how a good criminal defense attorney can bugger this all up. Slow your roll.
Does congress have to abide by these same procedural rules you mention during their impeachment trial?
Unless the Senate Rules are changed, which would arguably be improper once a specific trial proceeding has been initiated under a given set of rules, yes. They can be modified by stipulation, such as was apparently just done to accommodate the religious practice of Castor.
Did the Senate impeachment trial initiate with rules when the article was delivered by house managers?
Yes. Well, actually when the Senators were sworn in as “jurors” a day later thereafter on January 26.
What is FRCrP? Thanks for answering my q’s btw.
Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure
Senator Johnson [R-WI] today:
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1358440762564898819
Senator Wicker [R-MS] today:
https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1358443109781274625
In response to Wicker, nycsouthpaw posted this amazing short NYT VIDEO [I don’t know the correct term for this] of cell phone movements over time on 1/6/21 in DC.
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1358443650070564869
10:52 AM · Feb 7, 2021
What’s happening on this video at specific times:
7:58 AM beginning
9:05 AM supporters gather at rally
11:24 PM roads to Capitol still fairly empty
12:00 PM some movement to Capitol
12:22 PM crowds now moving along routes to Capitol
12:50 PM some people have arrived at the Capitol
1:35 PM most people are either on the road or already at the Capitol
2:24 PM mob storms Capitol [<<< NYT caption]
In response to southpaw tweeting this NYT video of cellphone data, Hunter Walker tweets:
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1358446494676889600
11:04 AM · Feb 7, 2021
I really wish I knew what time this live-stream happened. Is that data there somewhere?
He says in the vid that “Congress has just called a recess”, and it is still daylight, if that helps.
Yes, of course! THANKS!
[I hadn’t actually listened to it at the time, because it was the middle of the night, and some people actually sleep sometimes! And good thing because those SIRENS!]
That does help narrow the timing down, because we know Kaitlan Collins tweeted the lockdown at 2:06 PM.
2:06 PM The US Capitol is now on lockdown. https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1346896040558030853 2:06 PM · Jan 6, 2021
I find it mind boggling that DHS did NOT get through!
Fight for Trump Video Evidence of Incitement at the Capitol
https://www.justsecurity.org/74335/fight-for-trump-video-evidence-of-incitement-at-the-capitol/
What’s going on at the rally:
Listen to the crowd sound on the Parler videos, a lot of which is not captured in writing, here.
1] ON TV:
[00:34] 12:15 PM
2] IN THE CROWD [Parler video]
[text inside brackets is drowned out by crowd]
[01:43] 12:16
TRUMP: We’re going to walk down to the Capitol! (crowd cheering) [and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and] Congressmen and Women. And we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, (Crowd cheering drowns out Trump’s speech.) [and you have to be strong.] We’re going to walk down to the Capitol!
[Not on either video]:
TRUMP: We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.
[02:25] 12:17 PM TRUMP: [I know that everyone here will soon be marching] …over to the Capitol building.
TRUMP: To peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
What is interesting here is that I cannot recall any former President of having held such a rally when the Congress was certifying the Electoral College votes before. This, in and of itself, is indirect evidence that Trump’s intention was not in keeping with former Presidents when it comes to accepting electoral defeat. And, what was his exhortation to his fans and followers to come to Washington DC as it would be “wild!” in the days before exactly meant to imply? Because, gee, it did turn out to be “wild!”… as promised?
As noted on Twitter, the word “singularly” is not in the charge. It’s a weasel word that Wicker weaselled in, to avoid facing the issue. Plus ca change…
Actually, the phrase “singularly responsible” is I think in the impeachment memo, though not in the Article. I feel “had a singular responsibility for” would have been better.
There are at least three videos showing Alex Jones near Capitol speaking to the crowd and/or inciting them to a “1776 moment”. I was wondering why he has not been arrested yet.
I suspect he’d claim he was entertaining the crowd. But they may be working their way up to him and the other people behind the mikes..
TRUMP’s lawyers are arguing that TRUMP is NOT inspirational:
https://twitter.com/npfandos/status/1358816745159593992
nt.nyt.com/data/documenttools/trump-defense-impeachment-trial/3a17fbb266bf3bf5/full.pdf
And as I wrote above, at the beginning of his speech, Trump
creditedblamed his audience for “stop the steal”.https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/02/06/another-violent-foot-soldier-radicalized-by-donald-trump/#comment-881319
Is Brad Parscale still in trouble with the law?
Um, wouldn’t you make that argument if you were Trump’s lawyer? You have to.
Sure.
INCITE https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incite
Slightly OT, but…WTF?
Sure, she’s not incarcerated and is considered not to be a flight risk, but how often do they let people who have been charged leave the country?
Judge Says Florist Charged in Capitol Riot May Travel to Mexico
Seriously?? All the time. This is routine. I know the internets are outraged, but that is silly. I get these out of country travel orders for clients all the time. The last time, it was for a client on an international drug conspiracy case. It went on for a long time. During the pendency, I got him three different travel restriction waivers to go to Mexico.
These are the kind of evaluations courts make every day based on evidence and experience. They are much better at it than outraged mobs on the internet who have no experience.
I don’t think she’s normally dangerous, just not very bright. Also, it’s with a group.
4:30 PM on 1/6/21 Scott-Railton reports:
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1346932220607361024
4:30 PM · Jan 6, 2021
Screenshot from ALEXANDER:
So does that mean ALEXANDER posted this between 1:30 PM and 2:30 PM??? [2 hours ago from 4:30 PM]
AND there’s a MAP!!!
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1346940567637417984
5:03 PM · Jan 6, 2021 3.
The reason I saw this today:
New Parler VIDEO from ProPublica of ALEXANDER and JONES on 1/6/21
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1358816732094341123
11:35 AM · Feb 8, 2021
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1358824981514362882
12:08 PM · Feb 8, 2021
The Alex JONES sections of the Just Security “Fight for Trump”: Video Evidence of Incitement at the Capitol are transcribed here [with link]:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/25/some-key-gaps-in-the-january-6-story/#comment-879706
They may be identical to the new videos.
Does anyone know WHERE he is standing?
Thank you, harpie! For cross-ref prior discussion:
• Item 1 (video) was in part of the video I had posted here (which youtube later removed):
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/28/tunnels-and-trump-the-missing-details-in-the-oath-keeper-conspiracy/#comment-880326
• Item 2 I had located on reddit and posted here (the reddit clip is longer than the JSR clip):
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/28/tunnels-and-trump-the-missing-details-in-the-oath-keeper-conspiracy/#comment-880508
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• (3) There’s a transcription and link to Ali Alexander Parler screenshot w/ their infographic instructing of “North East Dr” (sic) as the location of their 1pm Capitol protest to follow (overlap) event at the Ellipse:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/28/tunnels-and-trump-the-missing-details-in-the-oath-keeper-conspiracy/#comment-880524
^ that last item pertinent (also) to something else you’d posted upthread
This is about JONES coordinating the timing and logistics of the march from the rally to the Capitol “with the White House”:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/25/some-key-gaps-in-the-january-6-story/#comment-879959
For more on the spatial relations, see notes here on the WSJ video (see also the Washington Post video linked):
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/31/the-role-of-trumps-incitement-in-providing-violent-foot-soldiers/#comment-881044
The Proud Boys met on the _east_ side of the Capitol 1/6 am. The PBs then _breached_ the police lines (1248pm IIRC) approaching from the northwest (I abbreviated that NW on the linked page).
Meaning they had effectively* come round the Capitol (and would have — if present at the same time and sticking to roadways — “intersected” with the arriving Jones (Ali) crew).
(I’m using the roadway names and directions to keep it simpler/explain the relationships so they can be cross-referenced with a map not present here, but the PBs could have just walked lawn, too.)
So for the PBs to have come around from the east side to enter via a NW barricade, they would have traveled westerly on Northeast Drive.
Or (and) the arriving Jones/AA crew — traveling easterly, towards NE Dr. — would have seen the PB et al. scrum round the front of the Capitol before the Jones/AA crew ever reached Northeast Drive.
This is also why the video of Jones walking up the grassy hill (apparently The Hill) is significant, because he would have left the designated roadways (headed for the) / site of their permitted protest to do so. If Jones was trying to keep to their “peaceful deal”, why would he have done that, why is he walking in the grass, with an employee about to go ask a cop if they can ~ “get Alex up there” for an appearance?
(I linked a video of that prior, have to relocate it)
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*could have: IDK where they were in between these two events in WSJ video)
Video, partial transcription/description here:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/31/the-role-of-trumps-incitement-in-providing-violent-foot-soldiers/#comment-880580
See also the following comment re what the Infowars guest host is broadcasting as Jones and crew are at Capitol.
^ and obviously in this hypothetical of laying out relationships between groups I am omitting smaller roadway names besides ad hoc lawn/property routes.
I’ve seen three accounts during the walk from the rally to the Capitol:
1] [from my comment just above at 5:25]
Screenshot from Ali ALEXANDER:
2] [From my comment on 2/6 at 2:09]
This is what one guy posted on Parler:
3] Journalist Hunter Walker
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1358447602094768132
11:08 AM · Feb 7, 2021
Transcript:
(4) Alex Jones and crew with him during walk: see 11:26pm above:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/02/06/another-violent-foot-soldier-radicalized-by-donald-trump/#comment-881575
[links to comment w/video
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/31/the-role-of-trumps-incitement-in-providing-violent-foot-soldiers/#comment-880580 ]
Yes…sorry, I should have thought of this. Thanks!
Maybe we can keep adding to the list?
See my new comment down further:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/02/06/another-violent-foot-soldier-radicalized-by-donald-trump/#comment-881615
1] https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346879740750262280
1:02 PM · Jan 6, 2021
2] This is what TRUMP was saying around 1:00 PM
3] 1:02 PM PENCE tweets three images:
a letter indicating he will follow protocols in counting the Electoral College votes.
EUREKA!
[Maybe new info. I haven’t watched, listened yet.]
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1358966315105583104
9:29 PM · Feb 8, 2021
Thank you harpie! I’ll have to watch later, it may be something that’s resurfaced. [There’s something about the motorcade somewhere else, reminder note to relocate that.]
I’m most happy that ProPublica has as least some of that Jones video I’d seen compiled that YT took down — AND I found the channel user who made it in JSR’s replies that you linked yesterday: it was Granny Mott (@-name is different) and she posted a google drive re-post in the replies, so more of it could be incorporated at ProPublica (or in JSR threads) by now. Hallelujah!
https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1346886726363578371
1:29 PM · Jan 6, 2021
https://twitter.com/EugeneDaniels2/status/1346890060709449733
1:43 PM · Jan 6, 2021
Excellent: that first item is *hugely important.* Pennsylvania Avenue leads towards the (visual) center of the Capitol, NOT towards Northeast Drive where Jones/AA had the permit for the next event.
Recall the NYT smartphone/cell phone tracking map shows large numbers of people migrating from the Ellipse to the Capitol via especially both Pennsylvania and Constitution (among other roadways). Taking Constitution would lead more towards the permitted area on Northeast Drive [but would also lead folks to seeing the scrum in front of Capitol first, especially as the PBs et al. STARTED IT up via the NW].
So Trump is directing traffic TO THE CAPITOL (RIOT IN PROGRESS), NOT to the next permitted event.
From TRUMP’s speech [started at 12:00 and ended at 1:10 PM]:
Nice catch. This is three minutes after the CP dispatched folks to go look for bombs away from the Capitol.
Well, I guess they still could have taken a left onto Constitution as they got closer, but then we’re still back to the PBs et al. breachers-group via the NW.
Time to re-look at that NYT visualization and see if it can be slowed down.
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ETA: and thank you for adding that 8:49pm comment, I knew we’d heard of the “take PA Ave” direction before but could not recall where documented.
New from Just Security:
#StopTheSteal: Timeline of Social Media and Extremist Activities Leading to 1/6 Insurrection
https://www.justsecurity.org/74622/stopthesteal-timeline-of-social-media-and-extremist-activities-leading-to-1-6-insurrection/
Atlantic Council’s DFRLab February 10, 2021
New from WSJ: https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1359295217002766336
7:16 PM · Feb 9, 2021
From the Just Security timeline:
I just want to note this TRUMP TWEET:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1302769466804252673
8:43 PM · Sep 6, 2020
At the time, nycsouthpaw retweeted HuffPo WH correspondent:
https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1302769981738962949
8:45 PM · Sep 6, 2020
Remember when, WH Counsel Pat CIPOLLONE said this about the Democrats during TRUMP’s FIRST IMPEACHMENT:
TRUMP quotes from this Public Citizen VIDEO
[this only includes spoken quotes, NOT twitter, etc.]:
https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1358821213301182465
11:53 AM · Feb 8, 2021 [VIDEO]
8/24/20 The only way they can take this election away from us, is if this is a rigged election
9/9/20 A lot of illegal voting going on out there, by the way, a lot of illegal voting.
9/15/20 You’re going to see corruption like you’ve never seen. You’re going to see a rigged election.
9/16/20 The ballots will be stolen. Who knows where they’re going? Who knows where they’re coming from?
9/18/20 There’s gonna be fraud. It’s a disaster. […] Everybody knows I’m right.
9/20/20 And when you see them cheating on the other side. I don’t say if, when.
9/22/20 Because what they’re doing is a hoax, with the ballots. They’re sending out tens of millions of ballots, unsolicited, not where they’re being asked, but unsolicited. And that’s a hoax.
[Q: But people are rioting, do you commit to making sure that there’s a peaceful transfer of power?]
9/23/20 No, no, no. We want to have – get rid of the ballots and you’ll have a very transfer, we’ll have a very peaceful – there won’t be a transfer, frankly, there will be a continuation.
1/6/21 We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there is theft involved. (cheering)
1/6/21 We’re going walk down and I’ll be there with you. Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.
TIMELINE:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/23/crowdsourced-timeline-tick-tock-to-insurrection-and-beyond/
2:10 PM (est.) — Trump called Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) around this time, before senators were evacuated, but reached Sen. Mike Lee’s (R-UT) phone. Lee handed his cell phone to Tuberville who spoke with Trump briefly.
2:13 PM — Vice President Pence was escorted off the Senate floor. Sen. Charles E. Grassley begins presiding, but almost immediately calls a recess.
2:15 PM — Senate sealed. [WaPo]
2:24 PM — [TRUMP TWEETS about PENCE / ECHOES CROWD: “USA”]
NEW INFO about that CALL for the TIMELINE:
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1359672905320321025
8:17 PM · Feb 10, 2021
This was being talked about because LEE objected to the way the House Managers characterized what he said about the call.
My comment from 1/7:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/01/07/the-trump-effect-attempted-coup-edition/#comment-874576
^^^^ This comment adds Jim Acosta’s tweet:
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1346927966144655362
4:13 PM · Jan 6, 2021
https://twitter.com/sandibachom/status/1358639333943762944
11:50 PM · Feb 7, 2021
BREAKING: At 4:10pm after 4 hours of mayhem, guy with a megaphone reads a tweet from Trump sent during the riot. The guy to his left was arrested and charged for ‘allegedly’ breaking into Nancy Pelosi’s office. He is holding the piece of paper he stole from her desk. [VIDEO]
2:10 PM (est.) — TRUMP called Sen. Tommy TUBERVILLE (R-AL) NEW:
Tuberville: “I said ‘Mr. President, they just took the vice president out, I’ve got to go.”
2:13 PM — Vice President Pence was escorted off the Senate floor.
2:15 PM — Senate sealed. [WaPo]
2:24 PM TRUMP tweets:
4:10 PM Megaphone man reads Trump’s tweet about Pence to the crowd. [VIDEO]
4:13 PM Jim Acosta tweets:
So that “est. 2:10 PM’ should probably be 2:14 PM
Also, there was news yesterday that TRUMP was very involved in PLANNING [including TIMING] for the day of the rally AND it seems he was instrumental in making sure there was a MARCH to the Capitol. I’ll come back with links and more info.
ALSO:
Trump’s political operation paid more than $3.5 million to Jan. 6 organizers
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/02/jan-6-protests-trump-operation-paid-3p5mil/
Anna Massoglia February 10, 2021 9:22 am
https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1359564030357233664
1:04 PM · Feb 10, 2021
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1359597306111270920
3:17 PM · Feb 10, 2021
Trump Pushed Rally Organizers to Override Prohibitions Against Marching from Ellipse to the Capitol: Impeachment Manager
https://lawandcrime.com/impeachment/trump-pushed-rally-organizers-to-override-prohibitions-against-marching-from-ellipse-to-the-capitol-impeachment-manager/
ADAM KLASFELD Feb 10th, 2021
Remember this from 1/30:
Text Messages Show Top Trump Campaign Fundraiser’s Key Role Planning the Rally That Preceded the Siege
Caroline Wren, a Trump fundraiser, is listed as a “VIP Advisor” in a National Park Service permit for the Jan. 6th rally at the Ellipse. Text messages and a planning memo show the title downplays the active role she played in organizing the event. https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-campaign-fundraiser-ellipse-rally
Mike Spies and Jake Pearson Jan. 30
12/28/20 Caroline WREN to Cindy CHAFIAN [text message]:
Get the budget and vendors breakdown to me and Justin
Cast of Characters:
1] Caroline Wren: Trump campaign fund raiser; “VIP Advisor” for the Park Permit; Deputy to Donald Trump Jr.’s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, at Trump Victory
2] Cindy Chafian: a self-described “constitutional conservative”
3] Justin Caporale, a former top aide to first lady Melania Trump, whose production company helped put on the event at the Ellipse.
12/29/20 WREN [Rally organizer] to CHAFIAN [text]:
[hold off on printing event-related slogans] “until we decide what the messaging is and we have no clue on timing because it all depends on the votes that day so we won’t know timing for a few more days.”
TIMING ALL DEPENDS ON THE VOTES THAT DAY – Caroline WREN