The Oath Keepers Dilemma: The Government Has Threatened Yet Another Indictment
The remaining 15 Oath Keeper conspiracy defendants have a status hearing today.
A lot has happened since the last status hearing the bulk of them had on June 1, 2021. Most notably, Graydon Young — co-defendant Laura Steele’s brother — pled guilty on June 23, just over a week ago. His cooperation with prosecutors will implicate the entire Stack, especially Joseph Hackett, Jessica Watkins, his sister, as well as the participants on a OK FL DC OP Jan 6 listserv (in addition to Watkins and Hackett, Kelly Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, Jason Dolan, and William Isaacs).
Then, on Wednesday, Mark Grods pled guilty. His cooperation will implicate fellow Alabaman Joshua James (who got Grods to delete some files), Meggs, Watkins, Robert Minuta, Stewart Rhodes, and others who were on chats Grods was part of, as well as everyone involved in the Golf Cart chase and prior events at the Willard Hotel, adding Jonathan Walden to the mix.
Yesterday (or today, depending on which defendant you ask) was a deadline that Judge Amit Mehta set on June 1 for all motions unrelated to discovery (with the expectation that the late added defendants would probably need more time).
Thomas Caldwell (who can be implicated primarily by the Ohioans, the still unindicted Person Three, Grods, and possibly some other VA militia members not charged in this conspiracy) has been filing motions. He filed a marginally serious motion to dismiss everything on June 15, and filed a frivolous motion to transfer venue yesterday.
Yesterday, the deadline, both Joshua James and Kenneth Harrelson filed some motions. The former filed a motion to dismiss an assault charge and an obstruction charge against himself, as well as for a Bill of Particulars. The latter filed a motion to dismiss the counts of the indictment charged against him. The Meggses had earlier filed a motion for a Bill of Particulars.
But thus far, almost everyone is asking for an extension to file their own motions. Here’s a summary of what’s on the books thus far (Dolan, Hackett, Isaacs, and Walden would have an extension in any case, on account of their late addition):
- Thomas Caldwell: Motion to Dismiss, Motion to Change Venue, Motion for Extension
- Dominick Crowl: Motion for 60 Day Extension, Motion to Adopt
- Jason Dolan: Motion for Extension
- Joseph Hackett
- Kenneth Harrelson: Motion to Adopt Caldwell and James Motions, Motion for Extension, Motion to Dismiss Charges against Him
- William Isaacs
- Joshua James: Motion to Adopt, Motion to Dismiss Counts 8 and 13, Motion for Bill of Particulars, Motion for Extension
- Connie Meggs: Motion to Join Caldwell’s Motion, Motion for 60 Day Extension
- Kelly Meggs: Motion to Adopt Caldwell’s Motion (including a cursory adoption of his obstruction charge)
- Roberto Minuta (Minuta’s attorney has had some health limitations so would need an extension anyway): Motion for 30 Day Extension
- Benny Parker: Motion for at least 60 Day Extension, Motion to Adopt Harrelson and Caldwell, though not adopting Caldwell’s “partisan surplusage”
- Sandi Parker: Motion to Join Caldwell Motion, Motion for Extension
- Laura Steele: Motion to be able to go on vacation, Motion to Join Caldwell, Motion for at least 60-Day Extension
- Jonathan Walden
- Jessica Watkins: Motion to Join Caldwell’s Dismissal, Motion for 60 Day Extension
Between these requests, the government has gotten defendants to waive Speedy Trial for at least 30 more days as they contemplate the legal dilemma they’re facing.
It’s true that most defendants cite the voluminous discovery before them. A few claim they have not yet had an adequate tour of the Capitol. Harrelson’s motion quotes several paragraphs of boilerplate from the government.
But a comment from James’ Motion for Extension is perhaps the most telling. It asserts that defendants have been told there’s still yet another indictment on the way.
Because the government has made clear that an additional indictment (which could include more charges or more defendants) is possible, and because Mr. James is unaware of which, if any, currently charged defendant will be proceeding to trial, it is impossible to assess, prepare, and file motions regarding severance of counts or defendants at this time.
It also suggests that it’s possible none of the currently charged defendants will actually proceed to trial.
Short of adding Stewart Rhodes, there are few places this indictment will go except to make the terrorism or insurrection claims more explicit.
Which may explain why James, one of the remaining key players who would be able to trade a lesser sentence for a cooperation deal, suggests no one may go to trial.
Yet another interesting observation by Marcy on twitter:
1:15 PM · Jul 2, 2021
From the Moerschel complaint:
QRF = colluding
I assume a QRF takes a fair amount of planning.
I look forward to the following question getting answered in court: What influenced you to come together to form a QRF?
“Vril,” a distant cousin of “Q.”
One dark and stormy night, I must actually read some Bulwer-Lytton:
I’d not heard of this particular bit of fruitloopery so thanks for that :-)
I’d like to hear them answering to “Why did you believe the government would call in untrained militia instead of the National Guard or one of the organized military forces?”
That’s a really good question and one that deserves an answer. I’m sure we’ll be hearing that explanation at some point.
I want to see Rhodes in handcuffs, he’s dangerous and in deep up to his eye patch.
Not the first time GOP operatives in relationships with Stone have played the QRF card. In Portland 2018 it was called a “quick extraction team” https://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-police-bureau-ted-wheeler-patriot-prayer-armed-parking-garage-protesters/
In 2016 and January 2017 infowars fake news included vote theft claims and threats of Obama declaring martial law.
Would that only more take leave of “partisan surplusage.”
Also, James’ atty:
Why not both!
And sideye to a select passel of those other VA militia members (perhaps not included in the ones you’re referring to), who were pre-gaming and on the sidelines with Rhodes.
The term “partisan surplusage” made me smile. Since it’s in quotation marks, I wonder if it can be attributed to Bennie Parker?
The lawyer who wrote[?] / signed Caldwell’s “partisan surplusage”:
David W. Fischer, Esq
Law Offices of Fischer & Putzi, P.A.
Glenn Burnie Md.
Fisher inserts himself into the
argument“partisan surplusage” on page 14:
Seems an odd comment to make about the DC jury pool, as my sense is that a non-trivial number of “DC-based attorneys” probably live not in DC but in Virginia or Maryland. If telling the judge “I talked to a couple of lawyers at the courthouse . . .” is your best argument, it’s probably not very good.
The whole 5 or 6 pages is a delusional Recitation of Grievances that sounds like Sidney Powell or Giuliani ravings.
The Glen Bernie address stood out.
Wonder why he has an office there?
I contend that Mr. Caldwell does indeed qualify as white trash.
IDK, the Trump family with all their billions in holdings can certainly be looked upon as white trash (new money, although old money), especially in in light of how that family gained a foothold in the US and scored millions of dollars as first pimps (grandpa Trump) and then millions (Fred Trump who was a klan member). If you got your start in the US by renting to section 8 tenants on the federal dole and were a ranking member of the klan, you are indeed white trash herein after, especially since you did nothing to clean up your image and instead tied your fortune to the white trash oligarchy of the Russian mafia.
See this about your question on twitter:
Yeah, “Rise Of The Moors”. Claim to not be sovereign citizens even though they walk like sovereign citizens, talk like sovereign citizens and quack like sovereign citizens.
JJ MacNab will probably have something about this eventually. Here’s her most recent thread [6/26] about a “Moorish Sovereign” case:
And here it is: [This is quite a ride…]
1:26 PM · Jul 3, 2021
And here is even more good stuff. Is there a gene mutation that causes this level of stupid? (No pdaly I am kidding. I think).
I’ll have to look into it :-)
Their ‘the rules don’t apply to me’ attitude reminds me of the 1/6/21 insurrectionists, minus the actual violence against law enforcement we saw on 1/6/21. Glad no shots fired.
More guns. More self-selecting militias. What possibly could go wrong?
Yeah. It is getting ugly out there.
There are international parallel groups. The “Reichsbürger” in Germany, for example, do not recognize the German Federal Republic. Here is a brief look at them in Deutsche Welle in English. (DW is a good and reliable source for news of Germany in English)
The last panel displays connections between, naturally, Putin and Trump. Over here we are pretty much convinced that these groups are directly or indirectly funded by Putin-friendly people and groups.
According to the WCVB (a Boston news channel) website, 11 men have been arrested. They stated they were travelling from Rhode Island to Maine for “training.”
Interstate 95 has reopened, and the shelter-in-place order has been lifted.
I wonder if the MA staties would have negotiated for eleven hours if those Rise of the Moors militia members had been a tad more moorish?
I dunno, but they were pretty Moorish. They were not the proverbial white guys. Maybe we just give the cops some credit on this one.
The head of the MSP (Commandant?) couldn’t say enough good stuff about the trooper who stopped them. Apparently his lead kept things calm and set the tone for the entire confrontation. What do you bet that none of those guys ever, EVER allow themselves to run out of gas again?
Interesting to me, one of the higher-ups quoted in news articles (I think on CNN?) volunteered he was unsure if the arrestees caused the incident on purpose, for publicity.
In light of the various charges incurred, that seems unlikely, but …
Here’s another thread about PATRIOT FRONT marching in Philly last night, via JJ MacNab:
10:50 PM · Jul 3, 2021
(1) A month ago, they (PF) vandalized a Floyd memorial in North Philadelphia (Olney) (defaced it with spray paint, added their logos; apparently also claimed credit via social media). Seems they did this in the dark of night — no parade with smoke bombs through Norf Philly!
(2) There’s a nexus to the Capitol 1/6 via known group-level associations, if not known individual ones.
(a) In that Jordan Hopkins thread he links another by a “Zig Zag” which shows members of the NJ EHA. Unknown whether those NJ EHA members are formally part of PF now, but multiple of them seem to have been present with (and dressed as) PF on July 3rd if you look through the photos.
(b) NJ EHA* members, along with the Three Percenters, frequented the spring-summer 2020 anti-shutdown/ defiant reopen rallies at Atilis Gym in Bellmawr, NJ, as did anti-vaxxer headliner Stephanie Hazelton, aka Ayla Wolf. Hazelton was arrested and indicted in January for her role 1/6 at the Capitol (laundry list incl the 1512 obstruction charge) (Philadelphia Inquirer and other reporting previously linked).
*Famously, the gym owner spoke from a megaphone labeled with their logo sticker.
#Sedition Hunters may want to take a closer look at some of these other events.
^ re (1), speaking to the safety of our communities: were any of them (on 7/3) held for questioning about the earlier vandalism? No indication thus far that they were. Observers immediately made the link between the two events; did the police think to do that (seems pretty rare for a whole horde of brand-name suspects to show up in public like that)?
Thank you, Eureka.
OY! What a cesspool!
Before we cap the septic, harpie, I should note there’s moar militia oozing from that leach field: Hazelton was clad in NJ Sons of Liberty wear (hat, sweatshirt) as she ushered men up the steps betwixt her three trips into the violent west tunnel, and the SoL (we all know what else that stands for) were kitted-out (plates/vests, radios, etc.) somewhere on the Mall.
Yada yada reasons, I wonder if they were included (in presence or spirit) in OK James Breheny’s planned 1/3 regional inter-militia coordination meeting at Quarryville, PA, to which he’d invited Rhodes.
That NJ SoL seems OK-adjacent to me, and — trivial pursuit answer — OK Jon Schaffer’s lesser-known band, Sons of Liberty, has a ~ 2009 song called “Tree of Liberty”. The Tree of Liberty is NJ SoL’s logo. Matchy matchy! (Fair, these may be the garanimals of revolution-era symbols but Schaffer’s recent-era pairing may inspire anew.)
[Back when Marcy did Schaffer’s plea posts and aficionados were around, I asked them about this Sons of Liberty band of his, which doesn’t have its own wiki or anything, and no one offered any info. Schaffer wrote or published the relevant album ca. 2009 (the album, _Brush-fires of the Mind_, does have a wiki, and you can find the “Tree…” song lyrics which are kinda 1/6-y).]
White supremacist group marches through Philadelphia before Fourth of July celebrations
July 5, 2021 9:06AM
I enjoyed all the “Fuck around and find out” energy from jubilant posts and memes and such. [And one of the anchorwomen at another station editorialized, after playing Crum’s statement, ~~”See, he called them “males”. They’re not men because men don’t act that way” (or too that effect).] So PF basically got themselves a lot of snuff (humiliation/social death) reels. And treating them like an insignificant outgroup was a good play, counter-propaganda-wise. However, the local ADL Chair did warn that there’s increased PF activity in the area — vandalism, leafleting, etc. (but that was a textual reference in the the dark corners of the web known as “the newspaper”, so … outside PF’s recruiting realm).
Did you see what happened Monday in
East PhillyMt. Laurel, NJ? Crazy story, 6abc.com has it atop their page (with another more informative video mid-story). Some super mouthy (even to the cop) racist guy who had apparently harassed his Black neighbors for awhile invited folks to show up at his house. And they did. He was later arrested. [NSFW (epithets) 1st video is from Friday that kicked this off, 2nd one from 7-5 w/news clips in replies: https://twitter.com/roxydavis99/status/1412190896943075344 ]
No, I hadn’t seen that Mt. Laurel story. Thank you!
Darkness and Light.
The Story of Rep. Andy Kim’s Blue Suit:
9:12 AM · Jul 6, 2021
9:56 AM · Jul 5, 2021
This guy is getting a LOT of responses to his request for photos and videos.
KrisGoldsmith85’s Twitter bio: