The Masters Of Faster Talk Of Trash

Alright Wheelies, it is Trash talk time! For the doldrums of summer, there are a lot of sports to talk about and space needed for all things “not” January 6 related. Bring it all here.

First up is the AZERBAIJAN GRAND PRIX. Qualifying is on right now. Stroll has already crashed his Aston Martin into the wall. Good thing his father owns the team, else Lance would not have a job. Oh no, the other Aston Martin, driven by Sen Vettel, has now gone into the wall, but seems the car is okay. Of the middle eastern races, the Baku City Circuit is actually better than most and usually provides good racing. As usual, the Red Bulls and Ferraris are up front.

Qualifying is over, and Ferrari’s Jean Leclerc is on pole, followed by Checo Perez, Verstappen and Carlos Sainz in the other Ferrari. Race coverage on ESPN at 7 am EST Sunday.

THE BELMONT. The 154th running of the last leg of the Triple Crown in Elmont New York. The shocking come from behind winner of the Derby, Rich Strike, is entered.

There will be no chance of a horse winning the Triple Crown this year, after Kentucky Derby winner Rich Strike did not race in the Preakness in May. But Rich Strike will still have a chance at making history on Saturday.
“Obviously, with our tremendous effort & win in the Derby it’s very, very tempting to alter course & run in the Preakness at Pimlico, which would be a great honor for all our group, however, after much discussion & consideration with my trainer, Eric Reed & a few others, we are going to stay with our plan of what’s best for Ritchie is what’s best for our group, and pass on running in the Preakness, and point toward the Belmont in approximately 5 weeks.”

The 80-1 long shot at the Kentucky Derby is still not favored to win at Belmont, with that honor going to We the People at 2-1.

It is hard to tell what to make of Rich Strike, only got in the Derby field by a last minute fluke, but he really went on a tear down the stretch and looked like he could have kept going, so today should be pretty interesting. But no, wouldn’t bet the farm on him.

NBA FINALS. Last night’s game four was something. Steph Curry just flat went off, finishing with 43 points and ten rebounds, which is Jordan and LeBron land. But it seemed more than that, he was everywhere. The series is tied 2-2, and they head back to San Francisco for a Monday night game five. It sure looks like it may be a seven game series.

LIV. Rayne mentioned it previously, and she covered the background, including Phil, quite well. Here is a running blog by ESPN on the final round in London. My only real comment is that the LIV is not attracting many viewers. Which figures because it is not on TV. At all. The only way to watch this junk is by streaming it, and who wants to do that for a golf tournament? Maybe sports writers that have to cover it? Those are the only folks I know that are watching. It is just a giant cash grab by golfers, most of whom nobody has ever heard of. From brutal murderous Saudi thugs.

DESHAUN WATSON. What a mess this sordid affair is. While two separate grand juries have refused to serve up an indictment, there are 24, Twenty Four!, civil suits filed against Watson. All by one carnival barker Houston lawyer, Tony Buzbee. Buzbee now claims he will be naming the Houston Texans as a party defendant as well, apparently based upon the somewhat tangential fact that Watson obtained a generic template non-disclosure agreement for from them. Something that had been known for a while actually. But Buzbee like to make a buzz, and he is at it again. Frankly I have no idea in the world how he does not have 23 conflicts of interest. There is no way in hell all of his clients are similarly situated, or have the same ultimate interest. I am stunned the Texas State Bar has not reeled him in. From Ben Volin at the Boston Globe:

But Watson and the Browns look to be in big trouble. The New York Times’s reporting on the lawsuits, which found that Watson visited 66 massage therapists over 17 months, provided vivid details of the allegations against Watson and revealed him as a deviant who used his power and celebrity to prey on women.

Nobody comes out of this looking good. Watson could be forced to sit out yet another season. The Browns look horrible for embracing Watson and still might need to find a quarterback for this year. The Texans are now getting dragged into the lawsuit and could be found at least partially liable. And Watson may find himself in more hot water thanks to the 24th lawsuit that was filed this past week.

The Browns may be without Watson for some or all of 2022, but there should be no tears shed for Jimmy Haslam’s team. It was shameful enough when the Browns traded three first-round picks for Watson despite these allegations hovering over him. But the contract they gave Watson shields him from any sort of financial accountability.

Not only is every penny of the five-year, $230 million contract fully guaranteed — setting an NFL record for the length and total of a guarantee — but the Browns truly protected Watson from financial repercussions of a suspension.

The Texans at least had the good sense to cut loose Watson. They paid him to not come around all of last year. But the Browns and Haslem look truly horrible. There is a lot of good stuff in Ben’s article. I’ll have more to say about this mess later as it plays out, but it is truly ugly on every front. Especially Watson, the Browns and carnival barker attorney Buzbee.

I knew Watson’s attorney, Rusty Hardin a little in the past, and he is very, very good. He can try any kind of case, although is probably best known for criminal ones. Head to head, Rusty would likely mop the floor with Buzbee. But 24 of them? And, make no mistake, you would have to try to make sure they are all separate and attempt to keep out all the other allegations from each one. That is certainly what I would do. Ooof.

Okay then, let rip the trash talk on anything that interests you. I’ll leave this post around through Monday night so there is always a place for things not January 6. Today’s music is an extremely little known one by the great George Harrison. The song is really written about the late great Ronnie Peterson, one of the fastest and nicest drivers ever in Formula One.But there is a lot of superb F1 footage in the video, including a couple of shots of my automotive mentor Phil Hill. And, if you catch it, a cameo by the Wee Scott, the great Jackie Stewart, as George’s driver. It is absolutely fantastic, give it a listen!

85 replies
  1. Rugger9 says:

    The NBA finals took an interesting turn last night, given how the left-for-dead Dubs beat the Celtics going away. It’s still 2-2 and it extended a Dubs record for 27 straight series with at least one road win. Three game series now, let’s see who has enough gas in the tank.

    Sonoma Raceway is doing NASCAR, this is a road course so if you miss F1, this could fill in.

    The LIV tour is fascinating and appalling all at once, apparently the next stop is Portland, OR. FWIW, I though the Senior tour was for those who needed cash. One of the golfers was being interviewed about the multitudinous Saudi (MBS, really) abuses and his response is ‘hey, we’re just golfers chasing a paycheck’ but I wonder just how much heat the local progressives will put on the LIV tour in PDX. These guys are about to learn the meaning of the word ‘pariah’ and FWIW, we should speculate whether Tiger will join as well.

    • bmaz says:

      Ugh, watching the Nascars lumber around road courses is pure torture. Tiger is actually the one golfer it makes sense for. He doesn’t need the money, but LIV tournament are spaced out pretty well and only three rounds. He looked bad trying to play four rounds in the last major, you could tell he was really in pain.

      • Scott Johnson says:

        It’s no fair to make NASCAR drivers turn right. (The NASCAR race held here in Portland last weekend was on a clockwise road coarse, so mostly right turns).

        Of course, I think NASCAR needs to return to its roots. Not just actual stock cars, bought off the dealership floor, but with revenue agents chasing the pack, dead-end sections of track in which drivers must execute a handbrake 180 turn before reaching the wall, and dead-drops of moonshine jugs into a hollow oak strategically placed in pit lane.

        You asked for trash, so don’t complain.

        • Drew says:

          A friend wrote a novel entitled “The Art of Racing in the Rain” While it was being talked about for a movie, some guys in the studio suggested it be changed from Formula One to NASCAR for audience appeal. Garth says his response was, “That’s fine, knock yourself out. But you’ll probably need to change the title to ‘The Art of Sitting around in the Garage waiting for the rain to Stop’ since NASCAR doesn’t race in the rain.

      • Duke says:

        I spent my early testosterone years watching any racing I could find on TV. More importantly, I went to races all over with my best friend at the time. Indy and Stock were the bulk of the races. Occasionally, Midget. I was never one for thrill of the crash. Precision driving is what kept my curiosity. Speed and precision are combined in magic and thrill of competition! These days the gambling governs much of the attention of sports and anything can be bet on from comforts of home.

        The way you write about racing reminds me of the years I spent in the stands and in the center of the track.

        • bmaz says:

          I grew up around it, and maybe too long ago. It is thankfully MUCH safer now. But the anything can happen and anybody can win dynamic seems lesser, if not gone.

          • Duke says:

            Your mentioning Jackie was the original reason I responded but, in my fascination of him and his voice, I sifted through the Rolodex of memories associated with the man and his voice.

            THANK YOU!!!

            Phoenix metro area is perfect for F1. On second thought, most area folks would be passing all the F1 drivers.

            • bmaz says:

              we had a couple here back in the 90’s, on a downtown street circuit. It did not work well.

    • Tech Support says:

      Sen. Wyden has been attacking the tour in several ways on social media, local TV stations have been talking about the controversy etc.

      The site of the event, Pumpkin Ridge, is actually owned these days by a Texas company. They are going to be somewhat immune to local outrage.

  2. Greg Hunter says:

    Belmont is not a come from behind track even though its the longest of the Triple Crown races. I do not expect the same kind of pace, but it would be great if he took two of the three. Should be a good race and a great day at Belmont.

    The J6 presentation conflicted with the Game 5 of the Stanley Cup Eastern Finals; however ESPN+ had the replay and the Lightening prevailed to take a one game lead. Really good game. Game 6 is on tonight with no conflicts in sight: Go Tampa Bay!

  3. wildunlap says:

    Right about the older F-1 footage in George’s video. I’m kind of soured on F-1 since Lewis Hamilton was shafted last season. When I was in the Army in the mid-60s in Germany, I saw Monaco, Monza and Nurburgring. Jim Clark at Monza was the only time I ever could appreciate a top tier driver being faster through a turn than his competitors. In those days the cars could still be seen drifting. At the same turn, a big fast right-hander, a young Jackie Stewart trying to keep up kissed the armco barrier with his left rear tire in a bit of a slide. Good times.

    • bmaz says:

      Clark, just like Peterson and Senna after him, was just different. Faster. And you could literally see it in how they attacked corners and overtaking. It was an art. Clark did not even always have the best equipment, and yet could win. Just spectacular.

      • wildunlap says:

        I was on leave in England, just after watching a prototype sports car race at one of the famous tracks—maybe Silverstone—when I heard on the radio that Clark had been killed in a crash at Hockenheim. Had to pull over for a minute. IIRC, it was a crappy F-2 race, back when the top drivers raced many different cars. I have some shots of Jackie Stewart at Road America during the Can-Am days. As I said earlier, good times.

        • bmaz says:

          Oh heck, they came and raced at Indy too back then. Clark won the Indy 500 in 1965, the first time a rear engined car ever won. A front engine car never won again.

  4. TooLoose LeTruck says:

    ‘First up is the AZERBAIJAN GRAND PRIX.’

    I have to admit, that – Azerbaijan Grand Prix – is a phrase I never thought I would see in print…

    I, for one, thought the Warriors were most likely toast until the 4th quarter last night…

    I also thought the refs were letting the Celtics get away w/ a little too much rough play… and now home court advantage goes back to the Warriors… Monday night’s game ought to be a good one…

  5. M Smith says:

    Somewhat off topic I just found out there’s a meatpackers called Belmont Meats. They mostly sell frozen burgers but it would be great if they sold Belmont Steaks. Regardless, their motto should be “We sell the fastest food”.

      • Peterr says:

        Something tells me that a lawyer from Belmont Park would be sending out a cease-and-desist letter pretty damn fast if they tried to do this.

  6. Kevin Bullough says:

    My high school, here on the west coast of Canada, was called Belmont Senior Secondary. Behind the school were the stands and track and fields for all sorts of different sports, and behind them were the tennis courts. Immediately behind that was railroad tracks, raised up on a high bank. There was no fence to demarcate school grounds versus CN ground, so somebody pounded in a shabby row of little pieces of wood, painted white, and yes, we called them the Belmont Stakes.

  7. noromo says:

    24 hours of Le Mans! How can you be so exited about oversized go-karts that go 200mph, and not have some respect for the grueling endurance of a 24hr race?

    And, Michael Fassbinder is driving a Porsche 911 RSR for the Proton Competition team in the GTE-Am class.

  8. Peterr says:

    For anyone who has a special connection with a particular stadium, arena, race track, or other sports venue, there was a really great story at the Guardian this past week. To make sense of the story, it helps to know that “Bootham Crescent” is the former home of York City FC, a low-level professional football (that is, soccer) club in the city of York in northern England.

    The story opens like this . . .

    An auctioneer marched through the listed items as if he had a train to catch. There was no ceremony or fanfare, just Lot after Lot, his voice like the incessant rhythm of a sewing machine. On a screen 200 miles away, I watched mesmerised. His hammer fell on bids for a brass-bound bucket jardinière, a cast concrete trough, a copper and zinc weathervane, a Victorian terracotta chimney pot and a pair of vintage step ladders. Then he announced Lot 7243, “A cast iron turnstile from York City football ground.”

    It was the first of eight such turnstiles on sale, each heaved from the soon-to-be bulldozed Bootham Crescent like particularly obstinate molars. I watched because I cared and because I wanted to write about the process of selling off a beloved ground – who buys the signs and seats, why do they do so, what does the item mean to them and where does it end up? These turnstiles and everything else that was being sold off had belonged to the old ground, and sometimes so had I. Growing up in York, Bootham Crescent had been another home in childhood and through my teenage years, and now it would exist no more. Empty space and then houses would overcome a place where crowds had roared and groaned, tarmac over grass. Her insides were being scattered and there were corners of the world that would be forever York City.

    Bids for Lot 7248 did not gather pace as they had for the previous five of these iron refugees. The first had gone for £320, and then prices had increased with each turnstile – £340, £420, £440 and then £460. But 7248 seemed to linger on £280. She was going once, going twice and in a few split seconds some romantic, foolish instinct struck me. It decreed that £300 would not be so much for something so magical. A few minutes later, I phoned my wife.

    “I’ve done something daft.”
    “Are you OK?”
    “I’ve bought a turnstile.”

    • Peterr says:

      “A few minutes later, I phoned my wife.”

      That had to be quite a few minutes, as Our Hero planned out how to share this news. Is the amount the issue (“You spent how much?”), or is the large hunk of iron the issue (“You bought what?”)? Or, of course, both could be the issue.

      This is one of those phone calls that it doesn’t matter how many minutes you take to gather your thoughts and marshal your defenses.

    • scribe says:

      He missed reporting on the scenes outside the Real Yankee Stadium circa 73-74 when during the renovation the real accoutrements from the Stadium were just piled outside for the trash man – and rapidly picked up by locals and fans wanting a row of seats or whatever for their homes. Or, for that matter, reporting on the trash hauls outside Forbes Field, circa 197-70, when the Pirates, soon to move into Three Rivers, just chucked all the records, photos, ephemera, you name it of 100 or so years of early baseball history – back when they were regularly good – and off to the dump it went. Or of the Phillies abandoning Connie Mack and the pictures from a couple years later of left field a parking lot for some used car dealer, signs on the outfield wall still there.
      Connie Mack was a Beaux Arts gem in a rough neighborhood, where parking was scarce and you had to pay off the local kids to “watch” your car. There are many fans who would die to attend a game in a place like that just to soak in the architecture.
      At least when the Yankees moved from the House that Ruth Built to Rudy’s Temple of Greed, where this Yankee fan’s feet have never trod lest the memory of the old be overwritten, they sold off the fixtures in something of an organized fashion.

  9. rattlemullet says:

    First time posting on sports trash talk, no trash, I just like to highlight the St Louis Cardinals new manager. His story literally could only happen in America.
    I used to be an O’s fan but bad owners since their glory years and gave up on them. Only recently started following the St Louis Cardinals. They are a storied organization.

    My highlight as a spectator was to be at the 1962 Firecracker 250 when “Fireball Roberts won the race that day. I was all of 12 years old selling peanuts in the stands. To tie in on your opening paragraph, that same year he also had a class win in 1962 at the 24 Le Mans driving a Ferrari 250 GTO. Fireball Roberts was a legend to southern boys in the early sixties. Not sure how many of the early Nascar boys raced in the Grand Prix races. Thanks for the post-

  10. Dmbeaster says:

    The classic problem with one attorney representing 24 plaintiffs against one defendant based on 24 separate incidents is how do multiple successful plaintiffs share recovery from a defendant who may not have enough to pay everyone? His duty as to each is to get as much as possible for each.

    Or maybe the defendant will have enough. But the attorney is a screw up who has probably has given zero thought to this problem.

    • bmaz says:

      Even if there is putatively enough money, they are, each plaintiff, differentially situated. This is just insane.

      • scribe says:

        This whole situation has struck me as a total setup, by the Texans for the Texans, to get rid of Watson for the best price they could get. That organization strikes me as one of the worst-run in the League, reaching for the bottom alongside the Browns, the Washingtons and Jacksonville. They ran off Watt the Elder, one of the real character players in the league, out of [mostly] cheapness and [secondarily] b/c Watt didn’t want to put up with their shit any more.

        I would suspect the plaintiffs’ huckster attorney has a waiver of conflict from each of the plaintiffs. The way I see this playing out is: (1) he gets a judgment against Watson for a lot of that guaranteed money, (2) someone complains (in a room of 24 plaintiffs there are sure to be at least a couple) and the Texas Ethics Police then decide that, no, those waivers weren’t really valid, so he can’t collect his fee but in the interest of not harming the (twice-victimized – first by Watson and then their idiot huckster attorney) plaintiffs they get some money, reduced by a remittitur to something less than they got (per Gerry Spence “Little People Get Little Justice”), then (3) the Texans and Browns turn around and discover that their representations from Team Watson were in fact false all along (like they didn’t know*), they sue, and the respective courts invoke the Discovery Rule to make Watson cough up the remainder of the money and/or void the parts of his contract still unpaid, 4) the most King Roger can be perceived as doing is wringing his hands, (5) Watson ages out of playing, loses a step, and/or gets busted when NFL Security (surveilling him 24/7/365) picks up the phone and tells their buddies in Law Enforcement. King Roger, shocked shocked shocked by misbehavior going on, puts Watson on the Commissioner’s Exempt List for life or until he’s so old no one will sign him. This assumes some viable criminal case does not come along (which might happen – who knows with these NFL players?).
        At the end, Watson winds up either in prison or laying bricks somewhere. The Texans get both rid of a problem and most of their money back. The Browns look like and are chumps for ignoring everyone responsible and choosing to go for the bright shiny object (just like they did when they drafted Young Mr. Johnny Football on the advice of the homeless bum living in the gutter in front of their HQ in Berea). The Browns also continue to be stuck with Baker Mayfield alienating the entire locker room and losing, losing, losing. And on cloudy nights the Dawg Pound continues to send the Bernie Kosar Signal off the overcast, getting the same non-answer.

        *Puhleeze – tell me they didn’t know how big of a piece of trouble he was before they signed him.

        • bmaz says:

          You’d hope the cluck has 24 waivers, but who knows with that guy? As you note, I don’t think they would be valid anyway. At some point, you just can’t waive that kind of conflict. Have similar issues with a couple of the 1/6 attorneys. It is just a really bad look.

      • scribe says:

        Speaking of arguments going nowhere even though you have to make them, the lawyers for the ex-Raider who rear-ended a woman and her dog while going 156, setting the woman’s RAV4 on fire and burning her alive, are moving to exclude the blood alcohol evidence. They say the police didn’t truly have probable cause to get a warrant for the blood draw.

        I say the LVPD sergeant, caught on tape, has the better of the argument: “driving behavior and death alone is going to get you a warrant all day.”

        • bmaz says:

          Ruggs. That argument is going absolutely nowhere. But David Chesnoff is a seriously kick ass attorney. You cannot get a better one in Las Vegas. Used to be Oscar Goodman’s partner.

    • Scott Johnson says:

      Isn’t this what class actions are made for? Or is 24 plaintiffs insufficient for a class action?

  11. Frank M says:

    My favorite motorsport is rally car racing, love the compilations of wild on the edge driving. Would like to see one in person, but likely remain watching them on YouTube.

  12. Jon says:

    F1 grid wound up about where I’d expected, and makes for a pretty fair start. I’d have liked better for Bottas and K Mag. And Russell continues his habit of out-qualifying his teammate.

    In related news, we’re now more than halfway through the 24 hours of Le Mans. (LeMons is something else entirely…). And it’s been riveting. I’ve got a soft spot for the Glickenhaus team (USA!, USA!, etc…) a true privateer with a unique chassis and engine. Currently running third behind Toyota, and fifth, in an impressive recovery drive. The fifth entry, the Alpine (Renault) has battled back to 21, after an early malady that seems to continue to hamper it.

  13. Chetnolian says:

    You said anything goes, so here’s two thoughts.

    First I managed to get to the Monthlery Vintage Revival just outside Paris last month. Not real racing but watching the cars iof the 30s high up on their concret banking was pretty good. Also it is old-fashioned, so you can walk among all this wonderful machinery, and have to stand out of the way as they make their way to the track for their runs. Ah nostalgia! And it was my first trip out of the country for nearly three years!

    And not so good nostalgia. Four wheel racing, as reference to Jim Clark reminded us earlier, tends to disapprove of deaths. Apparently not so on two wheels. The Isle of Man TT Races have managed five deaths in the week on their return to the calendar post pandemic. Really not good.

    I will watch the FI highlights as I refuse to subscribe to Mr Murdoch’s Sky so shall avoid this site till after I have!

    • B Ruff says:

      I attended the TT in 1990. Not only do the competitors frequently die, the circuit opens up for all the spectators to ride and die as well. Most likely drunk.
      I saw so many amazing bikes that week, topped by an MZ Augusta.

  14. bacchys says:

    The Browns are going to Brown. Watson isn’t so much better on the field than Mayfield- whose 2019 and 2020 campaigns weren’t bad- that he’s worth what they paid for, and it’s not not a given Watson will ever suit up for any NFL team despite the guaranteed contract. The NFL will strive mightily to do so, but if Watson doesn’t manage to keep all 24 of those civil suits out of court, they might find themselves in Ray Rice-type territory with a massive outcry against them. They really better hope there’s no video.

  15. Rattlemullet says:

    I was also lucky enough to watch Secretariat win the Triple Crown at the Belmont Stakes in 1973 perhaps the great run by any horse in history by an astounding 25 lengths. Too bad about Rich Strike ending in 6th. For your viewing pleasure. I’ve been lucky as a spectator of great sporting events.

    • Molly Pitcher says:

      Minor correction, but Secretariat won by 31 lengths.

      His heart weighed 22 pounds. The average Thoroubred has a heart that weighs around 8.5 pounds.

      Having spent my life around horses, I cannot watch that video without welling up with tears.

  16. Rayne says:

    This is a cut-and-past of a comment incorrectly posted in a hearing dedicated thread. Treat Trash Talk as open threads. /~Rayne
    username: mospeck
    2022/06/12 at 1:42 pm

    sry OT, and yea we got our own problems over here, but hey let’s take a break and go to a McDonalds in Moscow! Looks like the burgers are cheaper, but all with the same secret sauce. Rogin in the WaPo five days ago interviewed the girl who could, in “This Russian journalist blew up her life..” Russia One TV producer protester girl, the one with the sign, said, “The Kremlin is lying all the time and always changing their lies..It’s an information war, and I am suddenly inside this information war.” As time goes by, it seems more and more clear Ovsyannikova is who she claims to be — a Russian who decided to stop telling Putin’s lies and started to call them out. That doesn’t excuse her past actions, she told me, but it does mean that she and others like her should be supported when they risk everything to break with the Russian system. “You must support people like me, because if you are fighting people like me, nobody else from state media will want to do the same thing that I did .. My ex-colleagues are watching my fate.” As many have pointed out, the U.S. and European governments should be doing much more to help all kinds of Russian opposition figures, dissidents and other professionals currently fleeing Russia who .. decide to reject living under Putin..”
    But then we got the new and improved Peter the Great .. The Man who by the force of will simply reinvents the 18th century. Father knows best and he’s just a white tornado
    For sure he loves all of us hapless Slavs, the 100k dead, and even those wrong way Feldmans like Navalny, Protasevich and Kara Murza. And vlad, he will never break the chain

  17. Eureka says:

    So you WERE laying the jinx. Not a fan of that score but it’s early days. hOW iS yOuR BUlLpeN?

    Great now all the baseball is going to shit.

  18. Max404 says:

    A comment of mine is stuck in moderation. I called the entire F1 thing into question. Could a moderator look into it please. Thanks

    • Max404 says:

      Oh what gives? Am I violating some rule by expressing concern about the carbon footprint of F1 ? You keep censoring my comments! If I need to post them elsewhere just tell me.

      • Rayne says:

        Go elsewhere. You may have a point but you could easily see this was a post by and for fans of F1 racing; you chose to drop in to bash the object of their fandom just to stir up shit.

        Find a blog about climate change to discuss your issue with F1 or wait until we have a post about climate change to share that rather than dropping a turd in bmaz’s punch bowl.

        • Max404 says:

          Thanks for the Erklärung. The last thing I wanted to do was be a jerk or drop a turd in anyone’s punchbowl or just stir up shit. I kinda thought these were open threads for open discussion. I found it odd that nobody made such observations and included a link to a site with interesting information about F1 and global warming, Now I know. I will just avoid reading the trash talk punchbowl altogether, because it might get me started on brain injury or other such stuff. I get it.

          • Rayne says:

            Trash Talk posts are relief valves for this community. They are written around shared fandoms. I suggest reading about the nature of fandom; there’s an entire academic field related to it. Then perhaps you’d understand why dropping in with the intent to piss off fans is viewed as trolling.

            Gods help you if you ever do that crap to a Star Wars or MARVEL fandom and then play dumb about it.

            • Max404 says:

              Fan Studies. Ya learn something new every day.


              dropping in with the intent to piss off fans

              There was no intent to piss off and gods know, no trolling nor dumb playing.

              That crap.

              Jesus, we’re hard ass. I expressed an opinion.

  19. Eureka says:

    Someone needs to block that spammer in the tweet window by the name of Jim White.

    Reported! See ya later, Gator (I did not find them in the SR schedule, hrm…)!

    Thought my rooting interests might take the treble-L today but Devon Allen just decisively won the Men’s 100mH at the NYC Grand Prix: World Leading (means = this season), Personal Best, Meet Record, and third-Best Time ever-evah. [And he apparently just had the vid per tw; besides Eagles OTAs]

    I had a brief hurdling career, the beginning of the end of which involved an outlawed Japanese war weapon.

    • Eureka says:

      Sha’Carri Richardson 2nd to Aleia Hobbs in W 100m, tho still with a good time. (That’s the race Richardson should have run in Tokyo “2020” [2021] but for refer madness)

      She did take the 200m with a Season’s Best.

  20. Chetnolian says:


    The sight of Hamilton barely able to get out of the car at the end because the car was wrecking his back was very sad and something Toto Wolf and Mercedes in general should be rather ashamed of.

    And the prancing horse department is beginning to look like times past.

    And it does rather look as if Red Bull team orders are going to be unjust to everyone’s favourite Mexican.

    This is not going to be a vintage F1 year

  21. Ddub says:

    Another exciting weekend of games in the NWSL, the National Women’s Soccer League. I started following after 2019’s World Cup, and the game has improved each year.
    For anyone who is looking for an exciting sport to follow, this league has it. Competitive games, big stars and steadily climbing viewership. It’s a physical league, and refereeing isn’t always stellar, which leads to heartbreaking and fun moments as well.

  22. Bay State Librul says:

    Game Five and let’s not outsmart ourselves.

    Marcus Smart should shut the fuck up. (Comments about Tatum)

    The Celtics need to double team Curry?

    “And it was his Curry’s performance — 43 points and 10 rebounds on a sore left foot — that had basketball fans buzzing ahead of Game 5 on Monday night in San Francisco.” NY Times

    Curry vs Tatum — should be a “no time to die” moment

  23. mospeck says:

    Just when I thought I was out, you pull me back in :) sry for the flaming OTs, but while I agree w Marcy about the danger of clever devil Joshua Schulte and the threads/detailed analysis of the J6 committee laying out the trump handler’s 7 layer cake scheme to wreck our Republic (amazing actually)—these days I just don’t see any postings about Navalny’s vision of 21st century Russia vs. putin’s 18th century one. Could we please have a thread on Russia before all the refuseniks are dead? Right now Navalny’s lawyers don’t even know where the guy is.

    Otherwise OT, recently my kid drags me to Paris where we couldn’t get into the drop dead beautiful glass church because it was swarming with cops. So instead we end up at a McDonalds across the street from a punk art colony “30 Ateliers D’Artistes.” So we go into this spiral staircase building and a song was booming that my 24 year old kid didn’t know, and I said are you kidding me? that’s “Mother’s Little Helper” by the Stones and she said, ‘it’s pretty good, Pop.’ I felt my soul swooning and falling into the black and just how miserably I have failed as a parent. Then up the stair there’s the man who wasn’t there, this v quiet vg mosaic artist who plays a song in French, and my kid who lived there for 2 years instantly likes it, so I ask a kid and he puts it into his jimmer jammer

    So anyway, which one do you like better? The French songbird’s cover or the original?

    • bmaz says:

      The Stones are still Rolling. Played a gig in Liverpool the other night and did a Beatles song or two to honor John and Paul.

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