Hatchet Speed Arrested on a Small Part of his $50,000 “Panic Buying” Arsenal

Last month, I reminded readers that every single one of the 5,000 people in whom the FBI might still have an investigative interest relating to January 6 — even just the trespassers — could be the next Ricky Shiffer: a Trump supporter mobilized by Trump’s false claims of victimhood who attempted to breach an FBI office, only to be killed in a shootout with police.

That’s because there are 5,000 more like him out there.

I don’t mean, there’s a shit-ton of Trump supporters who could go postal at any moment. There are far more than 5,000 of them.

I mean, there are 5,000 people who participated in January 6 that the FBI might have predicated investigative interest in, but has not yet arrested.

That’s a fairly conservative number. In recent days, DOJ passed the 850 arrest mark for January 6 defendants. There are probably 1,500 to 2,000 more people who entered the Capitol on January 6 whose arrest would be comparatively easy (because their trespass is fairly easy to prove) who have not yet been arrested. There are probably 250 identified suspected assailants still at large (over 530 people, including those who’ve been arrested, are listed on the FBI site). And there were probably 10,000 people who breached the external barricades but did not enter the building that DOJ would only arrest if there were something extra — the political profile of Ryan Kelley or Couy Griffin, the pre-existing Deferred Prosecution Agreement of Owen Shroyer, conspiracy ties like Stewart Rhodes — to justify the arrest. Sure, the people who attended the January 5 rally, as Shiffer did, were more likely to participate in more radicalized online networks; those people weren’t in DC just to hear the loser of an election speak.

But at every moment that DOJ has been investigating the leaders that orchestrated January 6 (which provably started within weeks of the attack) and at every moment that DOJ has been investigating Trump’s other criminal acts, DOJ and FBI have been trying to deal with the growth of political violence that Trump has deliberately fostered. DOJ spent the weeks after January 6 doing triage, trying to arrest enough people to get visibility on the very real plans for follow-on attacks before or at the Inauguration. DOJ spent the year after January 6 trying to incapacitate the militia networks that served as an organizing structure for the attack. And DOJ has spent the last six months, as it turned more overtly to investigate several sets of crimes by the former President, trying to anticipate which of those 5,000 veterans of January 6 would, alone or in concert, attempt to reignite a civil war.

I hope that, given the Shiffer example, impatient people who’ve never bothered to understand the crime scene itself will remember that everyone they’ve dismissed for a year as low-level January 6 trespassers may be the next Ricky Shiffer. It’s easy to imagine that if you just arrest Trump all that political violence will dissipate. But that wouldn’t even have been true in 2019, if Mueller had indicted, and it sure as hell isn’t true now. And every step DOJ takes to get closer to arresting Trump, or even just hold the butchers like Fitzsimons who took up arms on January 6 accountable, the mob of people that Trump radicalized on January 6 remains an urgent threat.

In that post, I referenced an earlier one focused on January 6 misdemeanants where I explained why a similar misdemeanor arrest, that of Hatchet Speed, might be among the trespassing arrests that carried far greater significance.

One reason I said that is because a cleared defense contractor with ties to the Proud Boys — who in his arrest affidavit was described as just another face in the crowd — poses a particularly urgent concern.

This is the kind of guy — a cleared defense contractor who went to the insurrection with some Proud Boys “with whom he keeps in contact” — whose cooperation DOJ has used fruitfully in the past. He’s also the kind of guy who presents the ongoing urgent concern about our Deep State being riddled with militia sympathizers.

It turns out that, by the time the FBI arrested him for the DC crime, they already knew he spent the months after Joe Biden’s inauguration “panic buying” an arsenal of weapons and speaking approvingly of a whole ideological swath of terrorists.

That was disclosed yesterday in an affidavit unsealed along with an indictment for three unregistered silencers in Virginia (Seamus Hughes first found the arrest).

5. The FBI has obtained evidence that, in the months following January 6, 2021, SPEED purchased numerous firearms and firearm parts. In a meeting with an FBI undercover employee (UCE-1), SPEED made comments suggesting that he was “panic buying” during this time.

6. As reflected in ATF Form 4473s completed at the time of sale, SPEED purchased at least twelve firearms between February 11, 2021, and May 26, 2021 :

a. On February 11,2021, SPEED purchased an FN 509 (9mm pistol) from Vienna Arsenal;

b. On February 15,2021, SPEED purchased a Smith & Wesson Mod 10-6 (.38 SPL revolver) from Herndon Arms;

c. On March 12,2021, SPEED purchased a Glock 27 (.40 pistol), Mossberg 590 Shockwave (12-gauge shotgun), and Tikka T3X (6.5 Creedmoor rifle) from Vienna Arsenal;

d. On March 30, 2021, SPEED purchased a Sig Sauer MCX (.300 Blackout pistol) and a Benelli Supernova (12-gauge shotgun) from Vienna Arsenal;

e. On April 30, 2021, SPEED purchased a Sig Sauer Virtus (multiple caliber rifle) and Walther P22 (.22 pistol) from Vienna Arsenal;

f. On May 21, 2021, SPEED purchased an S&W Mod 60 (.38 SPL revolver) and S&W Mod 36 (.38 SPL revolver) from Vienna Arsenal;

g. On May 26, 2021, SPEED purchased a Sig Sauer MCX Virtus (5.56 pistol) from Vienna Arsenal.

7. Financial statements and other evidence collected in the course of the investigation reveal that SPEED purchased more than $50,000 at firearm and/or firearm part retailers, including the purchase of the twelve firearms described above, in the months after January 6, 2021. For example, financial statements from one of SPEED’s credit cards show that, just in the one-month period between February 15, 2021, and March 16, 2021, SPEED made the following purchases at firearms and/or firearm part retailers:

a. February 16,2021 – $4,109.00 at Silencer Shop in Texas;

b. February 16,2021 – $980.41 at Alamo Ammo in Texas;

c. February 16,2021 – $207.00 at Trex Arms in Tennessee;

d. March 3, 2021 – $668.99 at Reeds Family Outdoors in Minnesota;

e. March 8, 2021 – $194.90 at Greenacres Sporting Goods in Florida;

f. March 8, 2021 – $5,389.97 at OpticsPlanet, Inc., in Illinois;

g. March 8, 2021 – $100.42 at OutdoorLimited.com in North Carolina;

h. March 8, 2021- $215.31 at SGAmmo LLC in Oklahoma;

i. March 9,2021 – $1,137.29 at Ammo Freedom in Texas;

j. March 10,2021 – $1,919.99 at Guns Dot Com in Minnesota;

k. March 11,2021 – $80 in MidwayUSA in Missouri; 1

l. March 11, 2021 – $4,207.13 at SP & G Shooting Range in Virginia;

m. March 12,2021 – $660.99 at OutdoorLimited.com;

n. March 12,2021 – $290.74 at Armageddon Gear LLC in Georgia;

o. March 12,2021 – $297.80 at Freedom Munitions in Idaho;

p. March 12,2021 – $189.46 at EuroOptic Ltd Online in Pennsylvania;

q. March 12, 2021 – $695.00 at ESAD Arms LLC in Texas;

r. March 14,2021 – $568.00 at MidwayUSA in Missouri;

s. March 14,2021 – $374.12 at Silencer Shop in Texas;

t. March 15,2021 – $328.95 at Peak Case in Utah

At a meeting in March, Speed described to an undercover FBI officer how he liked to read Eric Rudolph and Ted Kaczynski so he could figure out how to improve on their game plans.

13. At the meeting on March 1, 2022, SPEED stated that he thought what Rudolph did was a mistake and that the bombing did not accomplish anything. But SPEED noted that Rudolph “was a right winger that got tired of what was happening and he wrote a book over his several year[ s] running from the FBI.” SPEED said that he “thought that was cool and … lover d] the fact that [Rudolph] can say what he did because he ha[ d] nothing to lose by writing [the book].” SPEED noted that he was “trying to find more books like that because [he] love[d] reading about people that are like ok, yeah, you’re assassinating bad guys, that’s cool, but if it’s approved then you’re always killing the small fry, you’re never actually going after the people who actually … ,” and then trailing off.

14. During the same meeting, SPEED also stated that he “like[ d] to read more stuff like that, like Ted Kaczynski,” who is commonly known as the “Unabomber.” SPEED stated the following (with my emphasis added):

Kaczynski wrote a manifesto and once again, like the stuff he did was not effective, but I can commiserate with where he was coming from. Because I think as people who can see their country fall deeper and deeper into wherever we’re going, we all know we have to do something so it’s useful to see what worked and what didn’t work. So, it’s useful to get into these people’s heads and you know, try and come up with a better game plan than they had.

15. During a meeting with UCE-l on March 15,2022, SPEED discussed Eric Rudolph again. In doing so, SPEED suggested Rudolph went wrong because he targeted rich people, when it is not about the money. SPEED said that instead it is “about power.” [emphasis FBI’s]

Speed spoke approvingly of kidnappings and talked about how he might pick victims.

27. In this conversation, SPEED continued by describing how kidnappings would be more effective than killing people. SPEED stated the following:

[K]idnappings are harder than killing people but they’re more effective. What I would love to see is you take somebody out, and they simply disappear. Nobody knows what happened to them. That means we can’t report on it, the media doesn’t know how to spin it. … And all of those people who were left behind have … no way to close that bridge, no way to know if they’re in danger. … We need to foster distrust within the opposite side, just like they do for us…. If you leave nothing behind, they never find the body.

This affidavit was submitted in conjunction with his arrest in June (and was the basis for putting him on house arrest with it). Since then, though, he has been permitted to attend weekend drill exercises as a member of the Navy Reserve at (!!!) Andrews Air Force Base.

Yesterday’s indictment feels like a stub for something else. It’s based on his possession, when he was arrested in June, of those three silencers. And while the government submitted his bond conditions in that docket, it’s not even clear whether he remained in possession of the three silencers after he was released after his June arrest.

EDVA started the paperwork to arrest him last Wednesday, September 2. That was two days after he requested to travel to Tampa Bay, ostensibly for a medical appointment, on September 11.

A number of militia members charged in January 6 are from the area. And Sarasota is where a lot of Trump’s — and Mike Flynn’s — post January 6 plotting has taken place.

This arrest presumably also derails any attempt Trevor McFadden would make (as he suggested he might back in July), at a scheduled status hearing on September 30, to accept a plea from Speed and release him with a hand-slap.

This is a man with a highly trained skillset and an arsenal who has been thinking a lot about terrorism in recent months. But before June, he was just another January 6 trespasser in the crowd.

76 replies
  1. Kevin Hayden says:

    With his own words so blatant, I don’t get why the prosecution didn’t object to his drill time. Or were his words unknown and came later?

    • emptywheel says:

      No. They were known. It’s his only job right now. He hasn’t been separated from the Navy Reserve yet (or at least wasn’t before this felony charge).

    • timbo says:

      Also, does anyone have any idea what he officially does exactly as a “contractor” with USG? The USG also provides cover for certain positions so this is an interesting case for sure.

  2. my2cnz says:

    ‘medical appointment on September 11.” Maybe feds suspected there was something nefarious being planned for 9/11.

    • Peterr says:

      September 11, 2022 is a Sunday.

      While yes, there are medical procedures done on Sundays, no one generally has a medical “appointment” on a Sunday. That probably sent up red flags, saying at least “we need to look into this.”

        • Ginevra diBenci says:

          If you have a rare condition you might well need to see an out-of-state specialist; my insurance covered my visits to Virginia and Minnesota from Connecticut, as well as my brain surgeon in New York. That part did not seem so odd to me, although the Florida Mayo Clinic is on the eastern side, not in Tampa Bay.

          But Sunday? Not one of my hundreds of appointments has ever been on a Sunday. (FTR, I did have brain surgery on September 11, but that year it fell on a Thursday.)

        • DrDoom says:

          The parathyroid surgeon you are referring to is well-known in the professional community as a dangerous hack. This is my wheelhouse. There is, however, an exceptionally fine parathyoid surgeon in Birmingham.

        • Savage Librarian says:

          I had a feeling the word “renown” might not be the best one to use. Being well known or famous doesn’t quite do it either. I didn’t intend to make any kind of recommendations or to imply any kind of judgment on the capabilities of any particular people. Just wanted to point out a location that might have weekend appointments in a specialized area. It’s good to know other options, though. Thanks.

        • P J Evans says:

          I did have one on a Sunday, but it was radiation (their machine had been down on Thursday and Friday, so they moved appointments to Saturday and Sunday).

        • Kmlisle says:

          Tampa is home to a large VA hospital and USCENTCOM. My brother visited specialists at that hospital several times. But as a member for many years of another large VA hospital I have never heard of a Sunday Appointment.

    • Charles Wolf says:

      “…something nefarious being planned for 9/11.”

      My best guess is they are planning a big celebration for the accomplishment of their secret hero, the early Magaloon named Osama.

  3. dadidoc1 says:

    I’m struck by how “not well” this guy is. It might be service related PTSD or deep seated radicalization, but his arsenal of weapons is frightening. God knows how much ammunition he bought to match all of the guns. I hope the DOJ is following the money.

    • The Baffled King says:

      Yep, he sounds like a character in a low-brow thriller or action film. I blame the parents for not giving him a nondescript first name. Maybe “Colin Speed” would have been less likely to develop and pursue insurgent fantasies…

      • Savage Librarian says:

        His birth name was Daniel Abraham Speed. He must be so antisemitic about his own name that he did a hatchet job on it. Brings to mind the fascism of Stephen Miller.

        “In April, Speed told an FBI undercover employee that he has contemplated using violence to further his antisemitic beliefs and discussed using violence against members of the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish civil rights organization.”


        • The Baffled King says:

          Ah! I didn’t expect a serious answer (although I tip my hat at your pun) to a flippant post. I wasn’t aware that he changed his name. Thank you. You’re probably right that he was motivated by anti-Semitism – there are some more choice quotes in the newly unsealed affidavit that emptywheel linked to.

          Let it be known that I hereby formally withdraw my undeserved accusations about Mr Speed’s parents!

        • Rayne says:

          What’s incredibly stupid about Speed’s supposed name change based on anti-Semitism is that nearly ALL Biblical names were Jewish. The person I believe is his father, Thaddeus Speed, has the Greek form of the Aramaic name Thaddios associated with Jude the brother of Jesus or the brother of James the apostle — both Jewish. I mean, Jesus was Jewish.

        • timbo says:

          Reminds me of a friend in college who changed his name to “Tom Barrett”. Fortunately, it was a different “Tom Barrett” than the current one often in the news these past few years. And one that had us all scratching our heads mightily at the time.

          There’s a lot more to the story but, yeah, our friend was Jewish and couldn’t stand his given names. Basically, he said (one night at the bi-weekly poker game), “Guys, I’ve changed my name to ‘Tom Barrett’—please refer to me as ‘Tom’ from now on!” He then showed us his new drivers license and student body card. We definitely were stunned, particularly when he explained why he picked that particular name. But that’s all I’ll say about his (and the college gangs) story—too personal beyond that.

          (Yeah, I did a double-take and had to do some quick research when the more infamous ‘Tom Barrett’ started showing up on the telex in the national and international new—whew, felt a lot, lot better when I verified that it wasn’t our old ‘Tom’ but someone else (who had also changed their name to ‘Tom Barrett’)!)

  4. Riktol says:

    According to the site below, an E-6 Petty Officer First Class makes between $34k to $53k per year (they cite more for total compensation but I’m thinking of disposable income). Between Feb 16th and March 15th 2021, Speed spent at least $22k on firearms, and $50k over an undefined longer period of time (but less than 18 months given they start from Jan 2021). On top of this, in paragraph 11 Speed claims he quit his job “recently” in March 2022.

    Where did the money come from to make those purchases?
    And having spent so much, how did he feel sufficiently financially secure to leave his job? (maybe that’s besides the point given that later in the declaration he talks approvingly about the concept behind Islamic suicide bombers)


    • Ravenclaw says:

      He’s Navy Reserve, not regular duty, though he does claim two deployments (Iraq and Afghanistan) from 2009 & 2011. Of note, his self-reported Navy job is as an interpreter for some sort of intelligence operation, though there may be some ‘padding’ there. He appears to be a software engineer with expertise in cybersecurity. Has a degree from Brigham Young. (Assuming this is the same Hatchet Speed, but how many of them can there be?) So anyway, he probably pulled in some good money over the last decade between his day job and the extra he got from the Navy.

      • Just Some Guy says:

        Radicalized Mormon terrorist? Is that why right-wing commenters keep saying “Y’all started this by being mean to Romney?!?”

      • harpie says:

        Navy, intelligence, software engineer, cybersecurity

        Those words in connection with J6 definitely ring some bells.

      • Riktol says:

        Good catch, I didn’t twig that he was in the reserve. When he talks about quitting his job he must mean as a contractor if he’s attending the Navy reserves drill.
        To me it’s odd that he considers his contract work “lending [his] skillset to evil” but he keeps attending Navy reserve drill, I’d have expected him to drop both.

    • Raven Eye says:

      For his reserve pay base salary, 11 drill weekends would bring in between $5237 and $6473 per year. A couple of weeks annual training would add in the range of $1636 to $1852. That doesn’t buy very many weapons of the quality he was purchasing.

      It’s not that difficult to be in a six-figure contracting job in the NCR, especially if a TS, TS/SCI, or CNWDI clearance is required. Even then, that’s a lot of hardware. Shell buyer, maybe?

        • timbo says:

          If that’s what he in fact did, that won’t look good in court methinks, even if it is circumstantial or indirect evidence? (IANAL)

      • PeterS says:

        I may have missed some specific information, in which case I apologise, but isn’t this drifting towards conspiracy theory land?

        If someone can’t obviously afford something out of their known salary, surely there are other possibilities that come to mind before introducing a shadowy third party.

        Small inheritance, profit from a property sale, loan from family etc.

      • Rayne says:

        He may have made decent money in IT field, could have been 6-figure salary as software engineer. Median salary for a Software Engineer II in Vienna VA is $103K/year.

        He’d been doing that for a few years, could have had decent amount of credit.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      Great post, and very disturbing. The way he talks about kidnapping struck me as antisocial in the extreme. I study media treatment of crime, which has imbued me with the agony suffered by the loved ones of people who disappear. Those who learn after weeks, months, or years that their child (or whoever vanished) was murdered tend to say that while it hurts to find out it is nonetheless a relief–the word they use–to know, at last. Those whose vanished loved ones’ stories never get a conclusion, however, just agonize. Forever.

      Mr. Speed talks about using misery on that scale as a political tool. That is violence.

      • timbo says:

        If he was on an anti-terrorism mission, he’d have work related reasons to be discussing this stuff. The issue here is that he’s apparently talking to FBI about this. Was he talking to counter-intelligence level folks when he said these things? Do we know? Basically, the guy is presumed innocent until proved otherwise in a court of law.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      Thanks for that link, SL. The article is deft and entertaining, keeping its snark just under the radar. Now I know where to start my own nonprofit, replete with seed money from those generous locals!

  5. Clare Kelly says:

    Thanks again, Dr Wheeler, for your diligence.
    “That’s because there are 5,000 more like him out there.” (MTW)
    Yesterday’s release of ADL Center On Extremism (COE)/DDoSecrets cross-referenced data base shed further light on the 9/27/21 cache upload.

    I hope the NM Judge’s order barring the Insurrectionist County Commissioner from office via 14th Section 3… is the first of many.


    • TooLoose LeTruck says:

      “I hope the NM Judge’s order barring the Insurrectionist County Commissioner from office via 14th Section 3… is the first of many.”

      I’m right there with you on that one… and I’m really wondering if that can be appealed to a higher court, and if so, will it be overturned?

      I thought this had been tried in other locations and had failed?

      • Clare Kelly says:

        It failed on Rep Greene, imho, because she has not been charged and there was no ‘indication’ that she’s under criminal investigation.

        And yet, the NM ruling along with daily Marcy Wheeler give me hope.

        It’s been a minute.

        • TooLoose LeTruck says:

          I thought it had been tried on Madison Cawthorn too and also failed there…

          In Madison’s case, he’s out of govt for the time being anyways so he doesn’t matter… right now…

        • MB says:

          He lost his primary in May, but…is still a lame duck in the current congress until 1/3/23. But I agree: he doesn’t matter.

  6. Savage Librarian says:

    Remember DeSantis saying he wants Florida to be more like his hometown of Dunedin rather than like Davos? Well look who lives in Dunedin:

    “Dunedin couple accused of entering US Capitol during Jan. 6 insurrection”


    “Dunedin TV chef charged in January 6 insurrection”


    • Tracy Lynn says:

      “…Florida leads the nation in the number of those charged for participating in the deadly riot…”

      Interesting way to put this. Way to be Number 1!

  7. BirdGardener says:

    If I may ask, on the subject of arrests for Jan.6 rioters: what happened to the men filmed perched in the trees, holding rifles? I was under the impression that carrying those weapons like that was illegal in DC (from what I can tell here, it was: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/general-requirements-firearms-registration). Perhaps I didn’t google properly, but I didn’t find any news articles about those particular people (the ones in the trees) being arrested.

  8. WilliamOckham says:

    Something’s definitely up with this arrest. When you’re on house arrest and your only two excuses to get out are drill exercises and medical appointments, claiming you need to go to Florida for a medical appointment seems, I don’t know, a little suspicious. The feds had a choice: Either let him go and surveil him OR arrest him. They decided to arrest him. That probably means they didn’t expect learn anything by letting him go.

    If I was among the people he was planning to meet, I would probably be looking for a lawyer.

    • Rayne says:

      This is a CV for Mr. Speed I found online, partially verified by what is open to unregistered viewers at LinkedIn:

      1. From 1997 to 2008, he attended Brigham Young University (BYU) in Provo, Utah, USA where he earned his bachelor’s degree in applied physics with an emphasis on computer science.
      2. In December 2002, he joined the U.S. Navy Reserve as a cryptologic technician.
      3. From February 2003 to May 2003, he worked for the BYU Office of Information Technology as an application utilities programmer.
      4. From May 2004 to April 2005, he worked for the BYU Office of Information Technology as a systems administrator.
      5. From May 2006 to September 2006, he worked for Firstline Security, Inc. as a technical support representative.
      6. From January 2007 to September 2008, he worked for Elevate Communications, LLC as an information technology specialist.
      7. In May 2013, his Computing Technology Industry Association (CompTIA) certification was issued.
      8. In June 2013, he joined Convergent Technologies, Inc. in Linthicum Heights, Maryland, USA as a software engineer.
      9. In May 2016, his CompTIA certification expired.
      10. In 2021, he joined Novetta Solutions LLC in Vienna, Virginia as a software developer and technical lead. On January 6, 2021, he went to the U.S. Capitol building in Washington, D.C., USA. That day, Donald Trump supporters breached the building while a joint session of Congress was certifying the vote of the Electoral College and affirming Joe Biden‘s victory in the 2020 presidential election.
      11. On January 23, 2022, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents conducted surveillance of him.
      12. In March 2022, he was assigned to the Naval Warfare Space Field Activity at the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). On March 15, 2022, he admitted to an FBI undercover employee that he entered the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. On March 22, 2022, he told the employee that he went to the U.S. Capitol with friends who were Proud Boys members.
      13. An FBI special agent filed a criminal complaint against him, which was signed by U.S. Magistrate Judge Zia M. Faruqui on June 21, 2022. On June 22, 2022, he was arrested in McLean but was released to home detention with location monitoring.

      This guy is a huge intelligence risk.

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        With a resume that suggests he can’t or won’t stay in a job very long. Yet another security risk.

        • FL Resister says:

          As a former staffing agent, I look at Mr. Hatchet Speed’s resume and see a qualified bullshitter. Would begin interview with skepticism and
          expect to hear that a lot of people, places and things were a disappointment.

        • Rayne says:

          Just checked the public portion of LinkedIn, says he was on active duty for some of this 5 years:

          Cryptologic Technician (Interpretive)
          U.S. Navy Reserve
          Dec 2002 – Present 19 years 10 months

          DoD-approved linguist in Spanish, French, and Portuguese.
          Deployed to Iraq (2009) as part of a two-man team embedded with an infantry scout platoon.
          Deployed to Afghanistan (2011) as an intelligence analyst.

          I assume he wouldn’t have been deployed to Afghanistan for under 2 years. Could shrink unexplained time to 2008-2009.

        • blueedredcounty says:

          1997-2008 for his Bachelor’s Degree? I’m assuming he was a part-time student and was working at the same time. Also assuming it/they may have been some type of entry-level service-industry job/s, so he didn’t include them on Linked-In.

        • Rayne says:

          What’s not clear from what I can see is his military service. When exactly did he enter the service? Could he have gotten his degree while serving?

    • P J Evans says:

      A long life, if not always happy.
      RIP, and may her children and grandchildren quit being public scandals.

        • John Lehman says:

          The British press has the Royal’s peccadillos a constant news resource on any given slow news day…we in the U.S. really have nothing like it.

        • Rayne says:

          Yes and no. We’ve had Trump, the coverage of which has sucked up oxygen on par with coverage of the British royals in UK media; what’s different about them is that the UK media makes up so much bullshit while Trump didn’t need to do that. Trump *is* bullshit, corrupt and excessively plentiful.

  9. teri mccomb says:

    I’m so grateful for this report. I learn so much but I always wonder, ‘what’s normal’? Your heads up that so many are still out there who could all be someones….w/the recent reveal of Proud Boys list of military, teachers, cops…are members… I think many times callers into Washington Journal are these folks and they’re fricking s.c.a.r.y. you can hear it in the words and the voice how crazy high these folks are on Q/WN ideologies….
    in your knowledge, give me ideal scenario. That way when I start to doubt or panic, I’ll have a perspective to put it in it’s place. I hope this makes sense. thank you

  10. KM Williams says:

    “Kaczynski wrote a manifesto and once again, like the stuff he did was not effective, but I can commiserate with where he was coming from. Because I think as people who can see their country fall deeper and deeper into wherever we’re going, we all know we have to do something so it’s useful to see what worked and what didn’t work.”

    It is interesting that this person (and I assume many of his type) don’t have a clear idea of “wherever we’re going”, but want to kidnap and murder people in order to stop what they are so afraid of.

    I have no trouble saying: The GOP and the wealthy elite who own them are working hard to turn the USA into a fascist-feudal-religious society. A hellscape of sickness-and-poverty/DEBT (physical and social) of bigotry, racism, fear and hatred. Bush2’s election strategy was anti-gay especially anti-gay marriage; Trump’s was anti-Latinx immigrants, and both worked to get them elected. (Now I see the repugs have dusted off their anti-gay marriage playbook and are re-issuing some of their former cow-plop.)

    But all they can say is .. …”people who can see their country fall deeper and deeper into wherever we’re going, we all know we have to do something…”
    … and that”something” is terrorism and murder.

  11. VinnieGambone says:

    We all have heard of off-off Broadway, right? So this here is way off-off topic. What happened to the Chinese radios that had been talked about in the lead up? Did their use/discussion turn up in evidence in J6 cases anywhere? We can find Bin Laden but can’t find this dude?

    Rhetoric aside, I actually have faith there is a FBI team whose sole focus this is.

    One might think individuals conversant with the radio technology might know or find their way to knowing others with the same inclinations.
    The radio enthusiast may be or may have traveled in the same orbit as the explosives dudes.

    Might examining radio heads cliques reveal intersection somewhere with who was preparing to place pipe bombs? Of all the vets arrested, or not arrested, but known to be vets, which have received explosives training? Should be relatively easy to identify.

    As these patriots lie on their prison beds trying to fall asleep I often wonder if they ever have a period genuine contrition?-asking selves
    what is wrong with me? I should have just stuck with golf.

    Funnee, I have not seen the pipe bombs receiving even a mention in J6 hearings. The pipe bomb questioning likely comes up in every debriefing with those people have signed cooperation agreements, no ?. Pipe bombs and ar -15 element in this event are what worry me most. You have people here way past wrestling with whether they are prepared to kill other Americans. They are. And they are still out there. And they are no different than the Tsarnaev brothers who set off the Boston marathon bombs in 2013. They are worse in fact. It has ceased to be about party and policy, it becomes all about the killing at some point in some minds. ( Maybe I should stop watching movies.)
    Regarless,let’s not let the pipe bomber fade from the discussion or the investigation.

    WTF is happening that there are so many Americans willing to kill other Americans- Legitimate Political Discourse. Why aren’t these guys coaching little league baseball?

    How many Anthony Quinn Warner’s are out there who may become, unwitting ( now there’s an understatement) , pawns in the machinations of the Rodger Stones of the world. What an unhappy reality they have been drawn to and have stepped into. Lost souls.

    The pipe bomb perp is still walking the streets and tinkering in his basement. Scary.

    • timbo says:

      re: The pipe bomb perp is still walking the streets and tinkering in his basement. Scary.

      Maybe. We just don’t know at this point. For all we know it was a foreign national who fled the country? It’s just not publicly known. It is scary to think they’re still out there though.

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