Former Secret Cooperator Enrique Tarrio Reveals a Secret Cooperation Deal

Last Friday, in the guise of arguing that Enrique Tarrio’s trial should be moved from DC to Miami, one of his attorneys, Sabino Jauregui, revealed that DOJ had gotten a plea agreement with Jeremy Bertino and “Stewart” in June, but only rolled them out recently, which he claimed was proof of politicization. That argument, like Jauregui’s arguments that the national media coverage that Tarrio himself had cultivated and a DC lawsuit against the Proud Boys that the judge presiding over the case, Tim Kelly, had never heard of, meant Tarrio could not be tried in DC was nonsensical and probably false as to motive. It was a painfully stupid argument from lawyers from one of the few people who could make a real case for moving his trial (though not to Miami, where there has been localized Proud Boy coverage).

But it revealed that the person identified as “Person Three” in many of the charging documents, John “Blackbeard” Stewart, had entered a plea agreement in June. After I tweeted that out, WaPo described a June 10 Information charging someone with conspiring to obstruct the vote certification.

The disclosure by Tarrio’s defense aligns with court records showing that prosecutors on June 10 charged a defendant who was expected to plead guilty and cooperate with investigators in a case related to Tarrio and four top lieutenants, who stand accused of planning in advance to oppose the lawful transfer of presidential power by force. The unidentified defendant was charged with conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding of Congress, according to the records — initially posted publicly by the court but removed from public view.

It’s unclear whether Jauregui really meant to argue that the non-disclosure of a June plea would harm his client — or even the early October disclosure of a Bertino plea that was signed in September — or whether this was the kind of happy accident that sometimes exposes a detail that might be useful for others. But it reveals that in the same period when DOJ charged Tarrio and his alleged co-conspirators with sedition, DOJ secretly added a cooperator against them.

That detail isn’t all that surprising — and it’s certainly not cause to move the trial to Miami. The government often keeps cooperation deals secret — indeed, the government kept at least some of Tarrio’s cooperation secret when he was cooperating against his codefendants and other medical fraudsters in the 2010s. They did so, in part, so he could conduct undercover operations.

But it raises other questions, such as what happened with Aaron Whallon Wolkind, who also figured prominently in charging documents as Person 2, but who was not mentioned in Bertino’s statement of offense. The recent silence about AWW’s role in January 6 is all the more telling given that Zach Rehl’s co-travelers, Isaiah Giddings, Brian Healion, and Freedom Vy just had their pre-indictment prosecution continued until February; along with Rehl, they’re the ones that interacted most closely with AWW on and leading up to January 6. We may learn more by Wednesday, which is the due date for the two sides to submit a new sentencing date for Jeff Finley, another co-traveler of this crowd.

There has long been reason to wonder about what was going on in the Proud Boy case behind the scenes. The revelation of hidden plea deals only confirms that.

The silence of most Oath Keeper cooperators

It’s not just the Proud Boys investigation where there’s uncertainty about cooperating witnesses.

A recent status report for Jon Schaffer, who was generally understood to be a cooperator against the Oath Keepers, reveals that his attorney,

has reached out to counsel for the government, Ahmed Baset, Esq., multiple times in regard to the Joint Statius Report as requested by this Court. Unfortunately, as of the filing of this report, undersigned counsel has not been able to reach Mr. Baset.

The status report includes the same description as used in earlier status reports, one that was always weird in conjunction with the Oath Keepers and now is completely incompatible with it.

Multiple defendants charged in the case in which the Defendant is cooperating have been presented before the Court; several are in the process of exploring case resolutions and a trial date has yet to be set.

That doesn’t rule out that his cooperation was for different militia defendants, or for Oath Keeper James Breheny, whose pre-indictment prosecution was recently continued until January (Breheny is most interesting for an event he attended in Lancaster, PA, not far from both John Stewart and AWW).

The continuing lack of clarity about Schaffer’s cooperation comes even as he has successfully hidden from DC process servers for months. He is one of the cooperators whose plea included the possibility of witness protection, but the process servers attempting to notify him of lawsuits against him seem to be chasing real addresses.

Schaffer aside, there are even interesting questions regarding cooperators in the main Oath Keeper conspiracy. After Graydon Young finished testifying yesterday (revealing, among other things, that he had learned that Kelly Meggs had high level ties to the Proud Boys), prosecutor Jeffrey Nestler revealed there is just one more civilian witness. If by “civilian” he includes cooperators, that means at most one more Oath Keeper cooperator — probably Joshua James, whose cooperation on post-January 6 development seems critical for the sedition charge — will testify. That would mean a bunch of the cooperators — Mark Grods, Caleb Berry, Brian Ulrich, and Todd Wilson — would not have taken the stand (Jason Dolan is the only other cooperator, in addition to Young, who has testified so far). While some of these cooperators were likely important for getting others to flip (for example, Grods would have implicated James), there are others, like Wilson, whose testimony might be uniquely valuable.

Or perhaps in the same way DOJ was attempting to hide at least one Proud Boy cooperator, the Oath Keeper team is hiding the substance that some of their cooperators have provided to protect ongoing investigations.

Mystery Green Berets

Then there’s a January 6 cooperation deal that has attracted almost no notice: that of Kurt Peterson. He’s a guy who broke a window of the Capitol and witnessed the shooting of Ashli Babbitt. Last December, DOJ was attempting to use the broken window to leverage him to plead guilty to obstruction as part of a cooperation deal. In September, he pled to trespassing with a dangerous weapon, one of the sweetest plea deals of any January 6 defendant, one that likely means he’ll avoid any jail time (which is consistent with how enthusiastically DOJ was pursuing his cooperation last year). In advance of his plea, the two sides got permission to seal two sentences in Peterson’s statement of offense.

Here, there are compelling interests that override the public’s presumptive right of access because the proposed plea agreement is conditioned upon Defendant’s continued cooperation with the government, and the statement of offense that accompanies the proposed plea agreement describes another individual who is under investigation for criminal wrongdoing on January 6, 2021. Publicly filing this information could lead to the identification of this individual and would be akin to a criminal accusation that could cause serious reputational or professional harm before formal charges are filed. Moreover, the need to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation justifies the requested partial sealing. See United States v. Hubbard, 650 F.2d 293, 323 (D.C. Cir. 1980) (“As to potential defendants not involved in the proceeding …premature publication can taint future prosecutions to the detriment of both the government and the defense.”). Furthermore, the partial sealing is justified by the need to protect the Defendant’s safety in light of his ongoing cooperation. Washington Post, 935 F.2d at 291 (“the safety of the defendant and his family, may well be sufficient to justify sealing a plea agreement”). See also United States v. Thompson, 199 F. Supp. 3d 3, 9 (D.D.C. 2016) (“sentencing memoranda that include information regarding a defendant’s cooperation are often filed under seal.”).

[snip]

No alternative to sealing will adequately protect the due process rights of an unnamed defendant; preserve the integrity of the government’s investigation; and help ensure the safety of the Defendant.

The two sentences in Peterson’s statement of offense (which follow these two sentences) clearly relate to the three people with whom he traveled from KY to DC.

The defendant, Kurt Peterson, lives in Hodgenville, Kentucky. On January 5, 2021, the defendant drove from his home to the Washington, D.C. area with three other people,

[snip]

After leaving the Capitol Building, the defendant met back up with his traveling companions.

He got separated from them on the way to the Capitol though; his cooperation likely pertains to what he learned they (or one of them) had done on the trip back.

His arrest affidavit describes a recording he made on January 10, 2021, when he had gone on the run. It reveals that his three companions were all former Special Forces guys in their sixties.

To my family and friends who are able to see this, I am writing it with a voice recognition program while driving. I feel the need to keep moving and trying to keep my phone wrapped such that it can’t be traced most of the time. I was at our nation’s capital for the rally and watched the presentations at the ellipse prior to walking to the Capitol building with at least a million and a 1-1/2 to 2 million people.

The people that were there at the ellipse were peaceable and loving and supporting our country. The people that were at the capital were also primarily peaceful and loving our country. But when there are huge crowds and there are people that are inciting violence the crowds will many times be pulled in to this action.

I was with 3 men who had served our country in special forces. All of us in our sixties.

[snip]

Sadly I do not trust many branches or people in our government particularly the federal bureau of investigation. So at this time I am moving continuously and wrapping my phone in such a way that I hope it cannot be tracked. If for any reason I am not available to see you or meet with you again know that my intentions are to keep our country free of oppression by an over zealous government.

Yet no one knows who these three (or one particular) suspects were that made them or him so interesting to DOJ to merit this sweet plea deal or the year of effort to get it.

The thing is, the suspect in question must have already been charged and probably arrested. Before the plea hearing formally started, there was discussion of a “related case” designation, which would ensure that Judge Carl Nichols would preside over it, as well as Peterson’s. That would only happen if there were already another indictment.

Besides, the three guys who were with Peterson know they were with him; redacting that language doesn’t hide the cooperation from them, at all.

The relentless public roll-out of cooperators in the Oath Keeper case is the exception, not the norm (as Amit Mehta noted when Schaffer first pled guilty). Even those of us who follow closely are not seeing all of what’s going on, even in the overt crime scene prosecutions.

And Tarrio, himself a former snitch, knows better than most how useful disclosing such details may be to help others evade justice.

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  1. Bay State Librul says:

    Off point — but dickhead Charles Rettig is finally going bye-bye

    “Today, U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Janet L. Yellen designated Internal Revenue Service Deputy Commissioner Douglas O’Donnell as Acting IRS Commissioner. Deputy Commissioner O’Donnell will head the agency following the end of Commissioner Charles P. Rettig’s term which ends on November 12.”

    Question for the new Commish – what is the status of the NY referral on Trump’s tax evasion ploy

      • Bay State Librul says:

        To bring sadness to the postal community? I should recuse myself — I was a part-time mail carrier at UMass during the sixties.

        • Wajim says:

          The 60s! Man, those were the postal carriers glory days, you know before e-mail and the intertubes of nets. My dogs today still whisper legends of those times they heard down the line from Great-great, great, great, great, great Granddog, when the routes were full of tasty federal calves and ankles all bogged down with letters and such. Good times . . .

      • Rugger_9 says:

        I dunno, since there is some movement on the Board of Governors that hires the PG. It was ridiculous in 2020, and Job 1 should have been to remove DeJoy so he couldn’t interfere with 2022 or 2024.

          • Frank Anon says:

            The Postal Board of Governors is a body that requires no more than 5 members of a single political party, which is why the body – the sole entity to determine DeJoy’s employment – is supporting that to continue. In December, the earliest Trump appointee ends his term, so I would expect DeJoy to be gone quickly after that (provided they race through an appointment at the lame duck)

      • Frank M78 says:

        Perhaps the office of the PG, in the “interest of efficiency”, could be urgently moved to Adak Island in the Aleutians.

      • phred says:

        I read awhile ago that Carolyn Maloney wanted to keep him at USPS because she was working with him on reforms.

        I can’t tell you how happy I was to hear that she lost the primary to Nadler. I will be very happy to see her go.

        • Spencer Dawkins says:

          I read awhile ago that Carolyn Maloney wanted to keep him at USPS because she was working with him on reforms.

          Is “him” in this sentence DeJoy? Assuming “yes”, I can’t begin to imagine what those “reforms” might have looked like.

          (shudders while posting comment)

      • Norskieflamethrower says:

        That Bman is a very good question. I think that it has something with the composition of the Post Office Board of Governors.

      • obsessed says:

        >Why does DeJoy still have a job at USPS?

        No, wait. I’m supposed to ask that question. Your job is to tell me I’m an idiot for not understanding how these things work. But among the many things that I don’t understand and am teeth-grindingly pissed off about, Louis DeJoy is high on the list.

        • Wajim says:

          Yeah, he needs to go, for sure. But “teeth grindingly”? You do realize life is very short, I trust. And, perhaps sadly, the inter tubes will be here long after we’re gone

      • cbear says:

        Anecdotal, but my hobby used to be refinishing old golf putters and selling them on ebay. Up until roughly 2018 The USPS Priority Mail shipping cost averaged about $8-12 per putter and was substantially less than UPS or FEDEX.
        Just recently I sold a couple of putters and the USPS price averaged $24 while UPS averaged $8-12 and FEDEX was approximately $15
        Why, it’s almost as if SOMEONE was trying to drive business to the private carriers.

  2. Rugger_9 says:

    Well, that will not make Individual-1, his minions and fellow-travelers happy but this news should scare the snot out of them. The thing that worries dirtbags (or their lawyers) most in situations like this would be the inability to craft their stories to fit into what the prosecution knows. If they guess wrong, the government hammers them for lying.

    • Rugger_9 says:

      Who knows how many more as-yet-reported secret deals are out there and with whom? One hopes the news will inject some suspicion into the collaborators about their pals, which might mean more rats will sell each other out. We can dream.

  3. Just Some Guy says:

    For some context, Hodgenville Kentucky is in LaRue County, and is not too far south of Fort Knox. The surrounding area is rural but a number of military retirees live there or in adjacent Hardin and Meade Counties.

    Hodgenville is also the birthplace of Abraham Lincoln.

      • Just Some Guy says:

        Yes, I thought that arrest was interesting/peculiar as well — Howe must’ve been hiding out which seems… difficult. Elizabethtown is just up the road from Hodgenville.

        Also nearby is Greensburg, whose mayor went to the January 6th rally and made some really heinous statements to local news media in Louisville about it.

        At least in Kentucky, there is probably a large subset of local elected officials and law enforcement personnel that, at a minimum, attended Trump’s January 6th rally and yet there has been very little news media about it. Trying not to get disheartened by it but…

        • emptywheel says:

          Thus far Howe hasn’t been docketed. I will check back to see if I can make more sense of the delay than.

          • Just Some Guy says:

            Thanks! I really appreciate all that you do.

            FYI sorta related, sorta not: the former AUSA of WDKY, Russell Coleman, is running as a Republican candidate for Kentucky Attorney General next year. That is, the guy who couldn’t/wouldn’t bring any federal charges against Louisville cops for falsifying the search warrant of Breonna Taylor’s apartment is running to replace the guy who couldn’t/wouldn’t bring any state charges against Louisville cops for falsifying the search warrant of Breonna Taylor’s apartment.

            And while Daniel Cameron’s role in the RAGA January 6th robocall was briefly reported, it seems to have been memory-holed since. I have no doubt that Coleman has some interesting ties to January 6th, though I haven’t seen a single local journalist here ask him anything about it!

            • Just Some Guy says:

              Also thanks for the reporting on Rand Paul’s nephew, Jesse Benton. There has been practically zero reporting on his recent indictment.

              • emptywheel says:

                Wait: Nephew or in-law? I thought he married Ron’s grand-daughter, but have no idea who that works out to be…

                Whichever it is, I might just follow that one more closely.

    • Purple Martin says:

      Just an observation. As retired senior enlisted military in my 60’s (barely, for little while longer), I’ve interacted with a lot of retired SNCOs in their 60’s, a number of whom…encouraged…the idea they’d been in special forces but whose extended conversations made that seem…unlikely.

      What their conversations did make seem likely, was that they might travel to D.C. to help violently reverse what they deeply believed was the election stolen from their Caudillo.

      (Aside to bmaz: I understand you have a special thing for these—what do you think of ‘Cantaloupe Caudillo?’)

  4. Savage Librarian says:

    Partake

    What’s the par take
    if you had no handshake?
    Now you just lie awake,
    Gets you when you’re down.

    It’s a stool’s game,
    Nothing but a stool’s game,
    Grab it for the best gain,
    Spin yourself around.

    It’s a mistake,
    Nothing but a headache,
    Just cut yourself a big break,
    Stop acting like a clown.

    That chump who’s too proud to share
    is the guy who’ll never care
    for you,
    It ain’t wise to heed someone
    as much as you depended on
    coup.

    What’s the par take
    if you had no handshake?
    Now you just lie awake,
    Gets you when you’re down.

    It’s a stool’s game,
    Nothing but a stool’s game,
    Grab it for the best gain,
    Spin yourself around.

    https://youtu.be/bEOl38y8Nj8

    “Bonnie Tyler – It’s A Heartache (Official HD Video)”

  5. Purple Martin says:

    Speaking of jailed election deniers and confidential sources (OK, a tenuous connection to keep this from being off-topic), you’ve heard about ‘True the Vote’s’ Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips?

    The Texas Tribune has good coverage:
    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/31/true-the-vote-leaders-jailed/

    Federal marshals escorted the leaders of True the Vote out of a Houston courtroom on Monday morning and into a holding cell. Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips have been held in contempt of court for refusing to release the name of a person of interest in the defamation and computer hacking case against them, who they claim, without proof, is a confidential FBI informant…They will remain in jail until they release the name of the man.

    Konnech, the election management software company at the center of those claims, filed a federal lawsuit in September alleging that True the Vote’s viral social media campaign targeting the company’s founder and CEO, Eugene Yu, led to personal threats to him and his family and damaged his company’s business.

    While [Engelbrecht/Phillips attorney Michael] Wynne told the court he’d placed calls to various offices at the FBI, there was no indication the agency had responded. Three weeks ago, said Dean Pamphilis, an attorney representing Konnech in the case, the agency made clear it had no confidentiality interest in the case. True the Vote has so far presented no evidence that is false.

    “We need to know his name,” Pamphilis said. “We haven’t heard any testimony that his confidentiality status has anything to do with this case. It’s a complete red herring they’ve manufactured to keep us from the truth.”

  6. Rugger_9 says:

    OT, any comment / posting coming regarding the SCOTUS activity today?

    1. Lindsey has to go talk to Georgia about his interference.
    2. CJ John Roberts cut Individual-1 another delay (briefs due 10 NOV) on coughing up his returns he promised 7 years ago.
    3. Meadows’ challenge to J6SC subpoena shot down.

  7. Bay State Librul says:

    A couple of thoughts and fond memories from the good old days at the PO (winks to Newman and Cliff Clavin)

    First, the end of the month was a joyous occasion, and prime time for most of my cohorts. We couldn’t wait for Playboy Magazine to arrive from Chicago. It wasn’t their Playboy Philosophy; it was the Playmate of the Month. Yet, you had to be pretty cozy and adept, in gently unwrapping the magazine without disturbing the contents. We would send our supervisor out for coffee, and then begin the painstaking process of putting the magazine back together again. I can’t remember how much time we stared. You could get five years in the Federal pen if caught with the goods. Security was lax in those days, so none of us were sent to Concord Prison. Our supervisor was a good shit too, and could look the other way?
    Second, during the summer months, I had this 5AM run from blue collar Beverly, MA to its sister town, an affluent zip code called Beverly Farms MA.
    A gorgeous ten-to-fifteen-minute ride in the summertime– except when the clock struck 4AM after a night at the bar. If I remember correctly, I made it each day with a blazing hangover but with possibly some violent upheaval stops along the way.

    • P J Evans says:

      My mother’s father was USPS. He had a story I heard from her about being invited to have some “peach juice” by a lady on his route. He claimed he couldn’t remember if he finished his route that day, because it was high-proof.

      • xbronx says:

        Worked 2 Xmas holidays as a college student at Main Branch NYC USPS back when this was a thing. Walked picket line when Knicks Cazzie Russell crossed our line as a member of the National Guard ordered in to do PO jobs. Razzed unmercifully. Then 2 summers on a Parcel Post truck working Park Avenue area with HQ of NFL. Same building had Lufthansa offices. Spent tons of time talking football with Buddy Young, old Colt RB and NFL exec. Rozelle would chat with us from time to time and occasionally gave us tickets to see the Giants. And my PO buddy and I fruitlessly tried to flirt with Lufthansa stews. Those were the days!

  8. hollywood says:

    OT.
    So much of the polling analysis I’m reading says the races are neck and neck, too close to call. So we can’t predict who will win.
    OTOH, other pieces I read point out nonresponse bias in the polls, making it difficult to believe what the polls say because they are not accurate.
    Cue election PMs explaining how we have to reexamine the polls’ assumptions and attempts to correct for biases. Cue RWNJ pieces about voter fraud.

    • Frank Anon says:

      Hollywood, I’ve given up, and I suggest you do the same when it comes to polls. Unless you’re talking about a hyper-specific poll, like Selzer in Iowa, it’s pointless to rely on them as anything other than a singular data point in one’s immersion in the rest of the political process. In my opinion, it’s because its less the poll that matters and more how its broadcast, and even further on the firmly held opinions of those who frame a response, and it’s not just the evil media. As an example, there have been a few polls showing that Indiana Senate is a 2 or 3 point race, but that conventional wisdom does not want to believe it can be so, as Indiana is such a red state. So its not polled heavily, and if Indiana was “in play”, think of how the global discussion would change about relative Democratic strength. Polls, and poll discussion, just migrate to a few states or places that seem conventionally plausible and our whole world becomes Hassan vs. Bolduc, Fetterman – Oz, and the polls mesh with the politics leaving nothing of real value, most particularly in House races. Don’t forget that conventional wisdom missed a ton of Republican pickups in California in 2020, in large part because it seemed implausible. In conclusion: a mess and not worth the brain damage. I’d like to read the future, but nobody can and we just have to wait in thrall to next Tuesday

  9. AndTheSlithyToves says:

    “…the rally and watched the presentations at the ellipse prior to walking to the Capitol building with at least a million and a 1-1/2 to 2 million people.”
    This guy is delusional and his headcount is horse feces. The numbers were somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000 people MAX on January 6th.

      • DrFunguy says:

        A million would more than fill it. I saw a crowd filling the mall in 1971 (April 24 iirc); and spilling off into side streets. Estimates were 200-500k.
        The 14th St. bridge (probably others too) was closed except for shuttle buses. I was very impressed as a pre-teen and partook of some teach-in ambiance.
        So, you are right, they’re quire delusional.

    • RJames0723 says:

      I went to the US Festival in 1983. I remember when it was announced that there was 1 million of us. I climbed to the top of the hill just to see what a million people looked like. They simulcasted to a bar in Moscow, USSR. I wondered what the couple of hundred or so patrons thought when they panned the cameras over the crowd enjoying a day at the concert.

  10. Badger Robert says:

    OT: is Ms. Wheeler going to comment further on Elmo’s dilemma: free speech for the trolls vs. revenue to service the debt?

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Not her job. Personally, I don’t think Elmo knows what he wants, let alone commentators or even his lenders. The joy of being a dilettante is that it doesn’t matter to him.

    • Hug h roonman says:

      (Hope my 8 character “HANDLE” passes muster Ranye!)

      Elon Musk (MELon Musk) is a Poster Child for a powerful, pathological Billionaire Social/Political Influence infecting our Republic.

      I am personally not a blogger nor anyone of “Social Influence” but I permanently QUIT Twitter yesterday because, like Facebook, it has become a serious threat to National Security.

      The Octogenarian Husband of the (3rd Line of Succession) Speaker Of The US House was BRUTALLY attacked in his home, with a HAMMER, and Elon Musk (MELon Musk) Tweeted a conspiratorial article about a gay tryst gone wrong. (Since deleted or not)

      When a Media ILLITERATE Billionaire with a JUVENILE understanding of Free Speech wields that kind of power… we teeter at a brink.

      The extent and depth of Regulatory Capture that our cowboy capitalist Republic now possesses is unsustainable.!

      VOTE!
      And get everyone else you know to do the same.

      (Sorry for the rant but my blood boils)

      [Thanks for updating your username to meet the 8 letter minimum. /~Rayne]

    • Christenson says:

      Elmo is, IMO, about to lose his entire investment because he’s not in learning mode; he’s doing whatever pops off of the top of his head with no regard for the unintended consequences, and I think he paid about double what twitter was worth monetarily — about $5B revenue, probably 10% profit 2022. No, I don’t expect to see much about it on EW; you’ll find reasonable commentary on Techdirt.com or possibly @chancery_daily.
      Twitter’s big issue is that moderation scaling to 7500 employees and 200M users is hard, requires some subset of users to get mad, and needs to better use more of its crowd wisdom somehow.

      • Rayne says:

        Elmo is, IMO, about to lose his entire investment because he’s not in learning mode

        Nah. One of our biggest problems especially across the left is that we don’t think like ultra wealthy people for whom laws and regulations are mere inconveniences.

        Elmo’s personal brand may be damaged, but he’s mustered financial partners who are going to take advantage of this situation — imagine obtaining access to a business containing all kinds of contact information about western journalists, especially if you’re the kind of person who is both a corporation and a country, and quick to chop up dissenters.

        Can’t put a price on that.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Yep. But I suspect Musk’s lenders have put a price on such things. He’s not the kind of guy you lend to based on his rationality or track record. But the assets he buys are different.

        • Christenson says:

          It’s not legal laws that are going to destroy the monetary investment; it’s that advertising revenue depends on users, and average users are going to go elsewhere. It’s gonna take a very long time to get $44B out of $5B annual revenue in any case, and Musk is making those numbers worse.

          Contact info for troublesome journalists? 44 billion seems expensive to replace a little gumshoe work and greased palms. Go see what Belling Cat has been doing to Russian officers.

          • Rayne says:

            LOL Still not getting it. Laws which should have kicked in and were somehow not an issue were those regarding foreign investment in the US. Nobody’s asking why Congress hasn’t tightened foreign ownership rules of all media, broadcast or not; were members already discouraged from doing so with campaign donations? Did crappy messaging pushed on Twitter already rot their brain about this?

            Is Twitter a possible foreign asset if its owner/proprietor has unauthorized meetings with hostile foreign leaders and tweets their policy agenda? Could Twitter be obligated to notify the public as RT-America was? Again, has Twitter’s toxic effect on political discourse already borked any possibility this will be investigated?

            Also not getting that it’s not just access to phone numbers but all the DMs journalists had before they moved to secure platforms.

            Further forgetting that Twitter has had a little problem with foreign agents working from the backend of Twitter before Musk even started buying shares this past spring. What was it they found which assured certain investors this was worth their time?

            I follow Bellingcat and yeah, they do nice work WITH OSINT. Twitter’s DMs and profile information supplied to validate accounts is NOT OSINT. Nor is it OSINT who is working for Twitter’s infosec.

            On top of the security risks Elmo has managed to sidestep with the help of weak and captured regulatory structure, there’s the risk to the economy. There are laws about mass firings (WARN Act) which Musk conveniently forgot/ignored while spouting he’s going to fire 75% of Twitter’s labor force.

            None of the investors give a shit. All of this serves their interests except for Elmo’s personal brand, and his fanbois also don’t give a shit. Jeebus…Aramco made more profit this last quarter than the amount KSA entities invested in Twitter. This is chump change to them.

          • bmaz says:

            Eh, I don’t think that many will flee Twitter, at least not yet. There is currently nowhere else for them to all go.

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