Elon Musk’s Self-Described “Crime Scene”

On Saturday, Elon Musk tweeted that the social media site he owns is a crime scene.

I’m pretty sure his confession to owning and running a crime scene was not intended as an invitation for the Securities and Exchange Commission to mine the site for evidence that Elmo engaged in one or several securities-related violations in conjunction with his purchase of it. (As I’ll get to, Elmo’s claim that his own property is a crime scene may, counterintuitively, be an attempt to stave off that kind of investigative scrutiny.)

Similarly, he probably wasn’t boasting that the Federal Trade Commission and a bunch of European regulators are investigating how Elmo’s recklessness has violated his users’ privacy. He cares so little about that, his newly installed head of Twitter Safety, Ella Irwin, confirmed she was spending her time in charge of a woefully gutted department sharing private user data with one of the mouthpieces Elmo has gotten to rifle through Twitter documents. Worry not, though: Irwin deemed sharing the moderation history of three far right activists — and the control panel used for moderation — not to be a security or privacy risk.

Likewise, I’m virtually certain Elmo didn’t mean to boast that San Francisco has started cataloguing the beds he had installed at Twitter headquarters so he can flog his (often H1B-captive) engineers to work round the clock.

Given what has come out of the “Twitter Files” project so far, not to mention the number of coup-conspirators Elmo has welcomed back on the platform, I assume he doesn’t mean to emphasize that Twitter is one of the key sources of evidence about the failed January 6 coup attempt, even against — especially against — the coup instigator. On the contrary, Elmo has invited a bunch of pundits to write long breathless threads about the ban of Trump’s account that entirely leave out what happened on January 6. Here too, then, Elmo may be trying to undercut a known criminal investigation by labeling his social media site a crime scene.


When Elmo says Twitter is a crime scene, he’s not imagining federal investigators swarming his joint to collect evidence that would be introduced in a legal proceeding according to the Rules of Criminal or Civil Procedure.

Indeed, a central part of the breathless Twitter Files project involves insinuating, at every turn, malice on the part of either law enforcement (often the FBI) or other federal organizations mislabeled as law enforcement (like the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, CISA, which is part of DHS), even while presenting evidence that disproves the allegations being floated. That’s what Matt Taibbi — whom I will henceforth refer to as #MattyDickPics for his wails that the DNC succeeded in getting removed nonconsensually posted dick pics — some of which were part of an inauthentic campaign that Steve Bannon chum Guo Wengui pushed out. (Side note: my Tweet linking to MotherJones’ story on the Guo Wengui tie, which shows that these tweets were doubly violations of Twitter’s Terms of Service, got flagged by Twitter as “sensitive content.”)

In one attempt to prove that former head of Twitter Safety Yoel Roth was too close to law enforcement, for example, MattyDickPics showed that Roth didn’t have weekly meetings pre-scheduled, and therefore could get blown off in favor of the Aspen Institute or Apple.

In another, Matty showed Roth writing to what appears to be an internal Slack, but claiming it was a “report to FBI/DHS/DNI,” about Twitter’s Hunter Biden response. Taibbi has discovered something genuinely newsworthy: Per Roth, when he asked about the “Hunter Biden” “laptop,” the government declined to say anything useful.

Weekly sync with FBI/DHS/DNI re: election security. The meeting happened about 15 minutes after the aforementioned Hacked Materials implosion; the government declined to share anything useful when asked. [my emphasis]

This entire campaign largely arose out of suspicion that the FBI was ordering Twitter to take action to harm Trump (or undermine the Hunter Biden laptop story). Matty here reveals that not only did that not happen, but when Twitter affirmatively asked for information, “the government declined to share anything useful.”

This is one of those instances where the conclusion should have been, “BREAKING: We were wrong. FBI did not order Twitter to kill the Hunter Biden laptop story.” Instead, Matty labels this a “report to” the government, not a “report about” a meeting with the government. And he says absolutely nothing about the evidence debunking the theory he and the frothy right came in with.

Instead, Matty makes a big deal out of the fact that, “Roth not only met weekly with the FBI and DHS, but with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI).” Reminder: At the time, DHS was led (unlawfully) by Chad Wolf. ODNI was led by John Ratcliffe. And one of Ratcliffe’s top aides was Trump’s most consistent firewall, Kash Patel. Roth may have been meeting with spooks, but he was meeting with Trump’s hand-picked spooks.

In another fizzled pistol, Matty shows Twitter responding to two reported Tweets from the FBI (without describing the basis on which FBI reported them) and in each case, debunking any claim that the Tweets were disinformation.

Matty complains that Twitter applied a label reassuring people that voting is secure. This is either just gross cynicism about efforts to support democracy, or a complaint that Twitter refused to institutionally embrace conspiracy theories. Whichever it is, it amounts to a complaint that Twitter tried to protect the election.

Perhaps my favorite example is where Matty, who is supposed to be showing us what happened between the Hunter Biden laptop moment and when, after Trump attempts a coup, Twitter bans him, instead shows us Slacks that post-date January 6. He provides no date or any other context. He shares these, he says, because they are an example of a Twitter exec “getting a kick out of intensified relationships with federal agencies.” They show Roth joking about how he should document his meetings.

Matty provides no basis for his judgment that this shows Twitter execs “getting a kick out of intensified relationships with federal agencies.” It’s even possible that Roth was claiming this was an FBI meeting the same way people name their wifi “FBI surveillance van,” as a joke. This is the kind of projection of motive that, elsewhere, Matty complains about Twitter doing (I mean, I guess he counts as Twitter now!), but with literally no basis to make this particular interpretation.

Honestly, I wish Matty had committed an act of journalism here — had at least provided the date of these texts! — because these texts are genuinely interesting.

It’s highly unlikely, though, that Roth is worried about documenting that he had meetings with the FBI, and Matty has already shown us why that’d obviously be the case. As Matty has shown, Roth had weekly meetings with the FBI on election integrity and monthly meetings on criminal investigations. He listed those meetings with the FBI as meetings with the FBI.

Yoel Roth was not afraid to document that he had meetings with the FBI, and Matty, more than anyone, has seen proof of that, because this breathless thread is based on Roth documenting those meetings with the FBI.

One distinct possibility that Matty apparently didn’t even consider is that, in the wake of the coup attempt, Roth had meetings with law enforcement, including the FBI, that were qualitatively different from those that went before because … well, because Twitter had become a crime scene! Consider the possibility, for example, that FBI would need to know how Trump’s tweets were disseminated, including among already arrested violent attackers. It was evident from very early in the investigation, for example, that Trump’s December 19 Tweet led directly to people planning, among militia members and totally random people on the Internet, to arm themselves and travel to DC. Or consider the report in the podcast, Finding Q, that only after January 6 did the FBI investigate certain aspects of QAnon that probably could have been investigated earlier: Twitter data on that particular conspiracy would likely be of interest in such an investigation. Consider the known details about how convicted seditionists used Trump’s tweets in the wake of the failed coup attempt in discussions of planning a far more violent follow-up attack.

Matty, for one, simply doesn’t consider whether Elmo’s observation explains all of this: that Twitter had become a crime scene, that the FBI would treat it differently as Twitter became a key piece of evidence in investigations of over 1,200 people.

None of this shows the “collusion” with the Deep State that Matty is looking for. Thus far, it shows the opposite.

Which may be why, close to the beginning of this particular screed, Matty explained (as he did about several other topics), that he was making grand pronouncements about Twitter’s relationship with law enforcement (and non-LE government entities like CISA) even though, “we’re still at the start of reviewing” the records.

Seven Tweets before he made that admission — “we’re still at the start of reviewing” these files — Matty insinuates, in spite of what his thread would show turned out to be evidence to the contrary — that Twitter struggled as Trump increasingly attacked democracy “perhaps under pressure from federal agencies.”

He and his fellow-Elmo mouthpieces have reached their conclusion — that Twitter did what it did “perhaps under pressure from” the Feds, even though they’ve only started evaluating the evidence and what evidence they’ve shown shows the opposite.

This is, nakedly, an attempt to attack the Deep State, to invent claims before actually evaluating the evidence, even when finding evidence to the contrary.

I mean, Matty is perfectly entitled to fabricate attacks against the Deep State if he wants and Elmo has chosen to give Matty preferential access to non-public data from which to fabricate those attacks. But it certainly puts Elmo’s claim that his site is a crime scene in different light.

Elmo has chosen a handful of people, including Matty and several others with records of making shit up, to confirm their priors using Twitter’s internal files. He’s doing so even as he threatens to crack down on anyone with actual knowledge of what went down speaking publicly. That is, Elmo is trying to create allegations of criminality based off breathlessly shared files — a replay of the GRU/WikiLeaks/Trump play in 2016 — by ensuring the opposite of transparency, ensuring only people like Matty, who has already provided proof that he’s willing to make shit up to confirm his priors, can speak about this evidence.

That’s Elmo’s crime scene.

Elmo has targeted Anthony Fauci.

He fired former FBI General Counsel, Jim Baker, because Jim Baker was acting as a lawyer — and because Jonathan Turley launched an attack on Baker.

He has fabricated an anti-semitic attack on Roth, suggesting the guy who made the decision to throttle the NYPost story on “Hunter Biden’s” “laptop” is a pedophile.

These are scapegoats. Elmo is inviting House Republicans to drag them through the mud; incoming Oversight Chair James Comer has already responded with a demand from testimony for Jim Baker and Yoel Roth. Elmo has not invited law enforcement into his self-described crime scene. The mouthpieces Elmo has invited in to tamper with any evidence have, instead, speculated (in spite of evidence to the contrary) that pressure from law enforcement led people like Jim Baker and Yoel Roth to make the decisions they did.

That’s Elmo’s crime scene.

A week before Elmo announced that he hosted a crime scene, he posted this, “Anything anyone says will be used against you in a court of law,” then within a minute edited it, “Anything anyone says will be used against me in a court of law.”

Elmo’s response to buying a crime scene, used to incite an attack on American democracy, is to flip the script, turn those who failed to do enough to prevent that attack on democracy into the villains of the story. It’s a continuation of the tactic Trump used, to turn an investigation into Trump’s efforts to maximize a Russian attack on democracy into an investigation, instead, into an investigation that created FBI villains, just as Matty invented pressure from law enforcement while displaying evidence of none.

And Elmo’s doing so even while using the fascism machine he bought, which Trump used to launch his coup attempt, to incite more violence against select targets.

127 replies
  1. Katherine Williams says:

    “He has fabricated an anti-semitic attack on Roth, suggesting the guy who made the decision to throttle the NYPost story on “Hunter Biden’s” “laptop” is a pedophile.”

    Since these conservative’s accusations are often confessions, it would do to take a look at Musk’s behavior towards kids.

    He talks a lot about hating child porn, accuses others without evidence, yet dismantles Twitters anti-porn mechanisms, and fires the guardians. Is he contaminating the the crime scene? Porn, especially child porn, is highly lucrative. And Twitter can’t make money off advertising any more.

    • noromo says:

      Can we please, at least, use the correct term. There is no such thing as “child porn.” It is sexual abuse against minors.

        • RS_12DEC2022_2356h says:

          It’s called CSAM now.

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      • wasD4v1d says:

        Actually, noromo, I take your point. The children are not actors, volunteers, or of age. It may be the term of art but it is not an accurate description of what it actually is.

  2. earlofhuntingdon says:

    Stock in Tesla – the company Elmo did not found – is down 50%, which makes Elmo luckier than he deserves to be. At the rate he’s going, he may relaunch twtr as a vehicle for right wing hate, but it seems unlikely to pay back the debt Elmo saddled it with. I gather that’s irrelevant to him and his peers when it comes to subsidizing hate speech.

    • Phoenix Woman says:

      Enron Musk is the most leveraged human being that’s ever lived. He can’t sell much more of his own Tesla stock because $90 billion of it pledged as collateral for other loans. He’s managed to avoid adding to it with the Twitter purchase, but once Tesla’s stock price drops so far that his total holdings are worth less than $90 billion, the whole Jenga tower collapses.

      The long-delayed Tesla Semi was supposed to turn things around when it officially debuted two weeks ago. But real truck companies with real stats beat him to the punch and he’s entering a crowded field with a producer that isn’t demonstrably better than what’s already out there – and remember, Tesla’s stock price (which is still wildly overinflated) is based on the belief that Tesla would be the Microsoft of the ground transportation industry. The way things are going, it’s looking more like the Wang.

      I call him “Enron Musk” for a reason.

      • PeteT0323 says:

        Ha! Wang Labs, Wang Computers, An Wang of Lowell, MA. I wrote a lot of Basic on Wang VPs back in the day.

        • k55f5r says:

          I played with my Wang a lot in the ’70s.

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      • BrokenPromises says:

        As loathsome as Musk is and as damaging as that is to Tesla you are incorrect about the Semi. There is nothing out there remotely like it. There is certainly nothing “….that isn’t demonstrably better than what’s already out there”. If the presentation and demonstration video of the 500 mile range with a full load proves accurate, and Tesla’s all have the best range in EVs, the semi is a complete game changer. There are no electric semi manufacturers including established ICE manufacturers with any vehicle remotely matching the capability. The tri motor design and new cooling for rapid charging are head and shoulders ahead of the rest. No BEV truck makers beat Tesla to the punch. They landed a jab and yes they have trucks that are fine for local routes. Tesla semi can go the distance. Look it up. The closest range posted for any electric semi is 300 miles. Most are way less. Tesla is the world leader in electric vehicles. Hands down. Tesla outsells Ford, GM, VW and Stellantis hasn’t even started. Outsells by a lot. But sadly Musk is a fool writ large. A great deal of the loss at TSLA is due to exactly that. However he will not destroy the company. The product is too good. It is the Apple of motor vehicles. It will survive him. It has the worlds largest auto factory if not the largest building in the world. It has three more giant factories (on three continents) and sells and is demanded on all continents. Musk is not Enron. He is not fraud. Twitter may go poof and Elon with it but not Tesla.

    • bmaz says:

      Here is one reason: I have been telling people what a complete horrible jackass Musk is since 2006 when I attended his big Roadster reveal at the Santa Monica Airport. We at EW have been on to Musk a little longer than most.

      • Unabogie says:

        I can’t recall when I first caught on to his grift, but it was certainly related to his string of big promises for things that were blatantly dumb like the hyperloop that inevitably flopped. There was the Tesla Truck window smashing debacle, and of course my personal favorite, the “Tesla Bike,” which anyone who has ever ridden an actual bicycle immediately saw as an abomination.

        • BrokenPromises says:

          Hey you left off the Tesla smart phone. Yes that’s snark on my part because I have actually seen links for videos and blogs claiming Musk was making one (it’s ironic that in a pique at Apple he recently said he should do that). I follow the electric transition fairly closely and I’ve never seen anything about a Tesla bike and certainly not from any reputable source. A quick search revealed a comment from a 2018 interview where Musk said “We could do a bike”. All the rest is concepts from what do these people call themselves? Influencer’s, a name for Instragram and youtubers who make a living off home made media. You’re all wet with the grift idea as he has three valid businesses going none of which are grifts but that does not invalidate what a damn fool he is.

      • Unabogie says:

        I can’t recall when I first caught on to his grift, but it was certainly related to his string of big promises for things that were blatantly dumb like the hyperloop that inevitably flopped. There was the Tesla Truck window smashing debacle, and of course my personal favorite, the “Tesla Bike,” which anyone who has ever ridden an actual bicycle immediately saw as an abomination.


    • bmaz says:

      They are a bit heavy and lumbering other than their ballyhooed 0-60 stats. I would rather drive a BMW or Porsche any hour of any day.

      • Kope a Pia says:

        For the last 6 months a friend has been driving the fancy Kia EV SUV, he likes it better than his two previous Porsches. There are so many good EV choices available now Tesla does not need to be an option.

        • Kick the Darkness says:

          My wife loves our Mach E. And I gotta admit, it’s a helluva vehicle. I’m still partial to my Allant+ 8, though.

        • bmaz says:

          Is that the EV6? If so, it seems pretty interesting.

          But any vehicle that can’t get me 6 hours across the desert to LA or SD without an extended stop and charge is not useful.

        • Libration Point says:

          The EV 6 and it’s share-platform cousin the Hyundai Ioniq 5 are actually the best suited EVs in the US market for that. They’ve got much better fast charging tech than any of the competitors at the moment. You’d still be looking at longer stop than a gas fill up but it’d be more on the lines of fifteen to twenty minutes.

        • Jane Ward says:

          Cancelled my Tesla order 18 months ago, ( thank the universe) now driving a lovely Lucid and enjoying every moment

      • BrokenPromises says:

        The reality of our world today is that Tesla outsells BMW and Audi and a bunch of others. I’ve driven a BMW and had a great time at speed through twisties. I now drive a Tesla and it is not cumbersome at all at any speed. There’s way more to it than the 0-60 launch. Yup it’s heavy but electric drive trains bring instant torque that does not quit. It performs better on the mountain roads than my Beemer did.

      • BrokenPromises says:

        Lithium battery fires are very hot and intense. It’s like when magnesium burns. But they don’t occur because of planned obsolescence as you imply. Fossil fuel vehicles catch fire way more than electrics do.

    • StellaBlue says:

      I had been thinking of buying a Tesla, but my not interested in politics wife has vetoed that idea. I suspect the average Tesla owner is left politically of the average buyer in their price range. Turning Twitter into a right wing outrage machine is at conflict with the “buy electric to help wean us off CO2 emitting cars” sentiment. Doubt many European buyers share his political outlook either. Not sure why he is determined to destroy his Tesla brand. I am trying to avoid mental health diagnoses, but it does seem like he is getting progressively more unglued.

      • Kope a Pia says:

        I can’t understand how going forward any rational thinking person can consider buying a Tesla after Elmo has shown the world who he really is. Every major car company is coming out with 2-4 of their models as EV’s, more models will be added every year. There are also several new car lines that only produce EV’s.

        As to Bmaz’s comment above about Tesla’s much ballyhooed 0-60 stats My Ford Mach-E does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds, handles well while looking good at less cost.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          How to imagine how a great Apartheid-era son of wealth, with supposedly elite engineering training, hasn’t figured out that an appliance as expensive as a Tesla needs solid, routine support in depth for the life of the product. WTF wants to pay that much money for a car with no support network?

        • P J Evans says:

          He has a bachelor’s degree in economics, and supposedly a bachelor’s in physics (which no one seems to be able to document). Nothing in engineering, which means probably no classes in it at all.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Thanks for the correction. From what I’ve read, even the BA in econ. from Penn was something of a courtesy.

        • Rugger_9 says:

          I do not own a Tesla and am unlikely to, until the charging situation is fixed up. I have heard that these are notoriously difficult to keep on the road and service waits are astronomical. The next car for me will be a hybrid.

        • P J Evans says:

          I understand part of the problem is that the parts go to building new cars, not to fixing existing ones. (And with no service network, good luck with repairs!) Elmo didn’t think it through beyond “sell cars, make money”.

        • BrokenPromises says:

          Tesla has the best charging system and infrastructure in the industry. It has the largest number of chargers at least in the US if not world wide since it sells cars everywhere. Tesla’s are mostly service free. There is a constantly growing world of service centers. I visited a new one for a tour last week. It’s the hugest of the five or six I have been too. Easily 3000 or more square feet show room but the service are was the kicker – at least two football fields of area. Then outside it has a huge lot filled with new Tesla’s for delivery. Tesla is still growing at 50% per year. Service for hard to get parts in a still supply challenged world may cause delays. I had to wait a week or so for a new bumper (my bad) to be delivered before taking my Tesla in to the body shop. I’ll speculate that the kind of repairs that require longer waits with Tesla are on parts that would also require wait for delivery on ICE cars. There are no common failures like thermostats and rectifiers that are stocked by local auto parts stores. I saw many posts on the Lexus hybrid forum about major waits (and $$$) for complex parts that failed regularly. A while back and likely better now but all electric vehicles have stats of fewer failures.

        • harpie says:

          There’s some info here:

          1:18 PM · Nov 17, 2022

          Someone has to say it: Elon Musk has lied for 27 years about his credentials. He does not have a BS in Physics, or any technical field. Did not get into a PhD program. Dropped out in 1995 & was illegal. Later, investors quietly arranged a diploma – but not in science. 1/ [THREAD] [screenshots] […]

          To be clear: no one cares about the degree; the immigration violation is history. What matters is Elon’s Big Lie, pretending to be what he isn’t. The academic “stolen valor” subverts judgment (“but he’s a genius!”). And it opens him to influence. It makes him a security risk. 4/ [THREAD]

        • KB says:

          I have yet to see any genius happening. But there’s sure a lot of inherited money posturing going on.

          I was an heiress once, I know whereof I speak. But I disinherited them before they disinherited me.

          So they went on with the self and other destructive behavior including stiffing the attorneys and employees, a probable familial murder, bribery and general internecine war.

          Hell will come for him, it’s a matter of time.

          PS… if you must read Twitter, consider using nitter.net which is a skin that cuts out advertising and tracking beacons!

          Viva les podcasts, essay web pages, and alternatives to Twitter!

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        • Yargelsnogger says:

          I bought my first Tesla 8 years ago. It will be my last (until Elmo loses his stake, and a real board brings in a new CEO). They aren’t bad cars, but other than the electric engine (which is awesome) they just aren’t tight, well-put together machines. I’m so glad real car companies, that know how to build the rest of the car right, are coming up with better and better alternatives every year. In light of all that I am never going to give that nitwit another dime.

          I was also thinking about a Tesla home battery/solar system with our home remodel that is going on now. Thankfully there are plenty of good alternatives there too.

          Hope he can get enough Tesla sales from the Rolling Coal community that are now his fan bois to make up for the 10s of thousands he’ll never see from me (and I assume thousands of his other prior customers) again.

      • BobBobCon says:

        Big players with far more capacity to meet EV demand are coming online. Toyota, VW , Ford, Nissan, etc. have the manufacturing and marketing networks that Tesla simply can’t match.

        Even if half of them fail, the survivors will be able to kill Tesla in terms of economies of scale and quality. It’s hard to see how Tesla survives in 4-5 years except as a wholy owned subsidiary of a larger entity, and Musk is headed toward going down in history as the next Steve Case, not Steve Jobs.

        • bmaz says:

          Would like to point out, as I have forever, how is Tesla going to do it with absolutely no established dealer, warranty or service networks like real car manufacturers have? How can you do that? That stuff does not grow on trees.

        • Rayne says:

          Which may be one of the reasons Musk bought Twitter. Now he has an advertising platform with global reach which doesn’t rely on dealerships, one he could use to build an online service center.

          Unfortunately he picked investors who don’t really want him to succeed at their expense.

        • Rayne says:

          Twitter could be the advertising/customer service, not the physical repair portion. If Musk didn’t have his head so far up his ass, he’d have created a traveling service system to go where the cars are, altogether avoiding the need for dealerships. But he’s not a real innovator.

        • BrokenPromises says:

          Tesla has their own website where they would put any online service center. They don’t do that. They do have a call center where you can detail the issue you’re having and if it’s operator error ( computer screen input) they will tell you how to fix it. If you need service they will direct you to your Tesla app to schedule an appointment. Twitter has nothing more to offer Tesla than it does any other company on the planet. To emphasize, Tesla’s service communications exist on Apple play and Playstore and via phone.

        • EuroTark says:

          It’s very interesting to watch this discussion from Europe, which shows how different the markets are. When electric cars started being a regular thing here in Norway 10 years ago, Tesla actually had an *advantage* with service and charging networks. They had leaned heavily into building their own network of charging stations, which weren’t all that compatible with other cars. Most service shops had no experience with electric cars either.

          It didn’t take long for both of that to change, and while Tesla is still the highest sold brand of electric cars here, but several other are close behind. Part of this has been regulations requiring freedom of choice for the owners.

          For the record, in the last year more than 75% of all new cars sold in Norway are fully electric.

        • timbozone says:

          Your description of electric car adoption in Norway reminded me of my trip to Norway in the mid-90s. At the time, I was struck by the fact that almost everyone in Norway was using cellphones, something that were just starting to be adopted, by mostly corporate types, in the US at the time. (I myself only had a beeper back then, and I most certainly did not take it on my vacation to Europe!)

          Norway, economically, geographically and demographically, is about the right size for a more ubiquitous early adoption of technology. It was the only place in Europe that I visited back then where there was almost universal use of cellphones by locals on public buses as one example. Three years later, on visits elsewhere in Europe, no other country was even close in terms of cellphone use. I expect that Norway is at least that far ahead of adopting electric cars now.

        • BrokenPromises says:

          BMAZ Tesla’s website lists all the service centers by State. Ariz has five Calif has 46. At service centers (at least in Calif) you can test drive any model. If you buy one that’s where you will take delivery. No one is going to S Centers for oil, filter changes, engine testing, etc.. None of that happens on electric cars. I went once because my rear tail lens cover had a leak. Wait for the part. Go in. Get it replaced in an hour. Leave. I have a recall notice. I won’t go to the SC. No I will get a notice either in the app or hard mail the way the recall came and then I will download the update that fixes it. Virtually every recall NHTSA has issued Tesla has been a software update to fix.
          Software updates occur regularly to improve features and performance. I’ve received many since I purchased with improvements in driving info, how auto pilot works, sentry mode improvents, regenerative braking and battery charging function among many others. The key thing is that NHTSA recalls (not all of course) can be and are handled by a direct to vehicle update. No visit to service center required.
          Electric motors are more reliable than fueled engines. Think of your refrigerator and washer/dryer. They just keep going. EVs have a couple dozen components compared to the hundreds inside and outside a gas engine. This all by way of saying why Tesla won’t fail because it doesn’t have dealership’s.
          And of course Tesla has warranties like all car manufacturers. It also had to pass road worthy tests in order to be allowed to manufacture. Tesla has been rated as the safest car on the road.

        • bmaz says:

          Glad you are a satisfied customer. Personally, you literally could not pay me to drive one off those electrified piles of garbage. “Tesla has been rated as the safest car on the road.” LOLOLOL. No.

        • Harry Eagar says:

          Consider this: The market capitalization of Tesla per vehicle delivered was (until the recent stock dive) 100 times the market cap of Ford per vehicle delivered.

          Thanx to Bloomberg News for that factoid.

          When people say Tesla is overvalued, they ain’t just a-woofin’.

      • Troutwaxer says:

        My suspicion is that he’s high as a kite most of the time, and not just because he’s snorted too much Rand and smoked more Heinlein than he should.

        • Troutwaxer says:

          I’m afraid it’s nothing more than a suspicion, triggered mainly because he acts with such a spectacular lack of inhibition. If I was high as a kite most of the time, my Twitter feed – if I had one – would read very much like Musk’s, though the politics would be… ahem!, quite different, and hopefully less spoiled and privileged… “Dude… Lovecraft was a total racist, and that freak Poe…”

          ‘Nuf said.

        • greengiant says:

          Musk is on the ADD/Aspergers spectrum.
          There is no real time gate keeper between his reptilian and other brains and what comes out his mouth or keyboard.
          People who are odd learn to use that as a shiny distractor. They can clean your clock while you are slack jawed staring at it. My guess is he amps the inhibition up to play everyone.
          It is only going to get worse. Anyone who is not a Nazi needs a new social media app stat.

          I do like the way you think Troutwaxer.

        • Ginevra diBenci says:

          Troutwaxer, I get a similar vibe. His high seems to me like meth or coke, or possibly Adderal–definitely a stimulant. He has not been sleeping enough for months, and some substance is convincing him he doesn’t need to.

          I’m waiting for the moment when he disappears from public view and a publicist says it’s due to “exhaustion.”

      • Mart7890 says:

        I looked that up as anecdotally the three folks “I know” who have Teslas are Trumpers. Actually about 50/50. The ones I know like it as a status not green symbol.

        • Just Some Guy says:

          Yeah I think that most Tesla owners are more into it as a wealth-status symbol rather than anything the right would call “virtue signaling,” ie. being actually concerned about the environment.

          As I noted on another article’s comments a week or so ago, I recently saw a Tesla here in Kentucky with a “Friends of Coal” vanity license plate!

        • BrokenPromises says:

          All Tesla’s have a mechanical release door handles. Pull the lever up the door opens. The latest case was a car that died 100%. The owner pulled the handle, broke the window (elect release lowers window from sealed track) and got out. By his comment after he thinks all Tesla’s will do this. There are three million Teslas. If it were true it would be all over the news and NHTSA would have all of them parked until they could be fixed. It’s a one off.

        • skua says:

          With being wealthy perhaps the only virtue recognised by Trump’s cronies, shameless and vulgar displays of wealth are for them true “virtue signaling”.

      • TDBach says:

        Apparently, he’s been sniffing the same glue as Lindell. Maybe it’s embedded in the filling for his My Pillow.

    • Rayne says:

      It’s not a permanent situation, unlike a marriage which can still affect one’s life long after divorce. At least as long as you have no problems with your vehicle before you liberate it for another vehicle.

    • MT Reedør says:

      If you are EV curious and can live with a 70-85 mile battery range, the Chevy Spark EV can still be found. It’s much cheaper than any other EV car. Charges overnight with regular 110V plug. It’s a great, fast, cheap little commuter car.

  3. Grant G says:

    DJT never apologized for terrorizing Rudy Freeman n Shaye Moss on Twitter…and or countless others Trump named n made allegations of elex fraud against on twitter….Elon is doing the same thing, bringing personalized terror to his named targets.

    With a one sided thread, cherry picked by partisans, a thread that hasn’t proved anything, no fire, no smoke, no shocking revelation, like a desert mirage.
    Those now living under threat by Elon’s doxing….That ain’t no mirage, that’s real……dangerous.

  4. Sam Penrose says:

    Thanks for raising the H1B issue; chagrined that it didn’t occur to me. I’d be curious to know whether H1B employees were less likely to resign, as one would assume.

    • emptywheel says:

      There was anecdotal reporting on it, but I haven’t seen a count of who stayed because they had to, to stay in the US.

      • Justlp34 says:

        Many H1B visa holders have been laid off in the recent RIFs across the tech industry. They have 60 days, including the holidays, to find a new job or they can be deported. This is ALWAYS a slow time of year for hiring.

  5. 2Cats2Furious says:

    What Elmo is doing with these “Twitter Files” is stupid, but it’s also potentially dangerous. Today, TFG posted another all-caps screed to his Truth Social, criticizing the J6 committee for not investigating “THE ELECTION FRAUD DETERMINATIVELY REVEALED BY TWITTER.”

    Which on the one hand is funny, because all that Part 1 “revealed” is that Twitter prohibited users from linking to the NY Post’s Hunter Biden laptop story for a day, and later Twitter honored requests from the Biden Campaign/DNC to remove links to naked photos of Hunter Biden posted without his consent. None of this equals “election fraud.”

    But TFG and his base of election deniers don’t care about these details. They’ve already proven themselves to be dangerous (see January 6). Elmo is just fueling the flames by encouraging this nonsense.

    • Rayne says:

      The entire operation is a tweaked version of 2016’s election cycle influence operations, which can be stripped down to this:

      — there was a hacking
      — the material hacked is questionable as is the means by which it is obtained and shared
      — the right-wing ratchets up propaganda about the hacking and the material
      — the media manages to get so much wrong about this while unintentionally amplifying the right-wing propaganda
      — the beneficiaries of the influence operation continue to add more spin from different angles until the original hacking and any actual hacked materials are lost in the blizzard of shit (firehose of falsehood technique)

      The ultimate aim is to undermine the credibility and/or approval ratings of certain persons related to the hacking and hacked material.

      In 2016 it was Hillary “But her emails” Clinton and the Democratic National Committee by way of the “single server” fallacy.

      In 2018-2022 it’s Joe Biden via his son Hunter by way of a laptop and salacious material purported to be from that laptop.

      Frustratingly, it’s as if the entire media universe has forgotten why Trump was impeached the first time and how that fits into this ongoing spray of crap.

      • J R in WV says:

        When you say:

        “— the media manages to get so much wrong about this while unintentionally amplifying the right-wing propaganda”

        Did you actually mean to say “unintentionally” amplifying RWNJ propaganda? I don’t think much of the amplifying RWNJ propaganda is unintentional. More like NONE of it.

        • Rayne says:

          That’s opinion on your part. Remember the “single server” fallacy? The media fell for it because they’re techno-dunces, simply repeating what Trump and his minions asked rather than pushing back, because pushback would require technology literacy most don’t have. They’re falling for everything about the purported laptop though it’s a far sloppier set of claims than the “single server.” It just takes a single piece of technology and hacking to throw media off.

  6. christopher rocco says:

    I just want to note that the term “deep state,” now a pejorative popularized by the likes of Steve Bannon and the rest of the right wing conspiracy minded moronosphere, is an unfortunate term of art. When I was in graduate school many years ago, we read Hugh Heclo’s classic “Government of Strangers,” which analyzed the push and pull between appointed agency secretaries and the career bureaucrats who maintained the institutional norms, culture and knowledge of the agencies that employed them. The career civil servants who staffed the agencies were decidedly not saboteurs, but rather possessed invaluable expertise that allowed the agencies to function effectively. That Bannon and his ilk have demonized dedicated civil servants has Heclo no doubt turning in his grave.

    • Howard Cutter says:

      I suspect a great deal of it is projection. They are actively working to get people elected/appointed to government whose main goal is the sabotage of government rather than effective governance, to prove the philosophy that the government can’t be successful and that the government who governs best governs least. The “starve the beast” and “drown it in a bathtub” philosophy of government. They cannot imagine government employees whose goal is not sabotage, who want the agencies they are a part of to be effective.

      Thus the new term, “deep state”, to replace the old: “civil servants”.

    • skua says:

      An exception that proves your point is currently the subject of a commission of inquiry in Australia: the unlawful application of the Robodebt scheme by a federal government department.
      It may be that onging top-down interference by an elected Minister will be found to be the reason. Though there are signs that senior bureaucrats were heavily focused on what the politicians wanted to the diminishment of considering what was lawful, and with ethical considerations apparently entirely absent.

    • skua says:

      That this hasn’t been automated by a public-interest group is astonishing and concerning.
      Some of Elmo’s formers would seem to have both the skills and motive – though perhaps not the time. Something to agitate for through Mastadon?

  7. Doctor My Eyes says:

    Well, there are some good, advanced technical features on Teslas:

    Touting the feature as the perfect way to enjoy one’s fondest moments in the seconds before a fiery death, automaker Tesla rolled out an update Wednesday that displays pictures from the driver’s life on their dashboard just before the car explodes. . .

    “As soon as the car senses that its navigation systems have accidentally sent it careening into oncoming traffic, the slideshow will immediately kick in and give you an amazing send-off from the mortal plane. We’re even throwing in some photos of Elon for true Tesla diehards.”

  8. viget says:

    Now the reason Elmo bought Twitter is laid bare….the folks who brought us 2016, want to know how exactly the USG foiled 2020. And how much of their spider-web of bot nets, influencers, et al, is totally compromised.

    But to do so, they must raze Twitter to the studs, and when they do, they’ll find out what many of us knew for a long long time. Twitter is a fad. It has outlived its usefulness and now, folks are moving on to the next big thing, be it the fediverse, or maybe something we don’t even know about yet. Whatever it is, it ain’t gonna be run by some compromised Silicon Valley “billionaire”.

    And Thiel won’t be able to trawl it to add to his all seeing database….

    • Rayne says:

      Twitter was not a fad. It had actual usefulness unlike Pet Rocks, Chia Pets, or Juicy Couture track pants. That’s why it became such a powerful weapon for influence operations.

      What we are watching is not the crash of a fad — that’d be more like Google Glass which never really achieved virality because its utility was limited while its risks were steep. We’re watching a form of bankruptcy in motion after the wrong buyer acquired a business which could have gone in either direction depending on the buyer.

      • viget says:

        Agree to disagree. Social media writ large is not a fad, but that’s only because influence operators realized it could be monitized and the general public realized it allowed for the democratization of information sharing and the ability to form networks of like-minded individuals like never before.

        Facebook was the prototype here and was useful until it wasn’t (it’s dying a slow death due to lack of relevance to a new generation). The troll infestations are also killing it like Twitter.

        The same fate will befall Twitter. It will cease operating as intended and droves of users will flock to the next big thing. Maybe a competent CEO could’ve saved it, but I kind of doubt it.

        Incidentally, I never was a fan of Twitter until I saw how it could be used to tell stories, which only came into being with the threading functionality. The original concept was ridiculous, but that’s just my opinion.

        • Rayne says:

          I really don’t think you have a good grasp on this subject. Social media is media that’s social. Some will argue it began with Web 2.0 but it really predates that given Mosaic web browser and BBS, which means social media has existed since 1994 and earlier. It began when users and not just coders/programmers could share information.

          Meta and Twitter are not the only two platforms. They’re simply among the largest, and they’re dying because of crappy management — they’d remain more relevant if they were better managed as Twitter shows most concisely. Likely not a coincidence these two platforms are not well managed and are also under FTC consent decrees.

        • gmoke says:

          During the Arab Spring, Twitter was extremely useful. I remember one story of a relative in USAmerica watching coverage of Egyptian demonstrations being able to direct their loved ones in the right direction to avoid being arrested because they were all on Twitter.

        • Rayne says:

          Which is why some Middle Eastern countries are more aggressively targeting political dissent on Twitter. KSA had an asset working inside Twitter who was prosecuted this past year; KSA and UAE have arrested and prosecuted dissenters who used Twitter. In one case the person was an American citizen (I still don’t understand why the Biden administration didn’t react more strongly unless this was a negotiated situation related to oil pricing, which would be an ugly bargain). I think Qatar has been leaning on Twitter users but I can’t recall a specific case off the top of my head. All three countries now have vested interest in Twitter, either through VC lending or in the case of KSA, Prince al Waleed bin Talal’s acquisition of an equity position.

          I’m sure Middle East is watching carefully what’s happening in Iran which is also shared on Twitter.

          But it’s just a fad, more than 10 years after Arab Spring. /s

        • Just Some Guy says:

          Sadly it’s all an “ugly bargain” when it comes to oil pricing, even as to whether a Saudi royal deserves immunity from a civil lawsuit in the U.S. Unfortunately I would not be surprised as to a similar reaction from any American administration regarding the KSA asset inside Twitter.

          Incidentally, and I suppose ironically, the Avid Halaby thread that Dr. Wheeler retweeted about the Twitter Whistleblower’s report was pretty eye-opening, and predictably tractionless.

  9. Jenny says:

    Chief Twit quotes:

    It’s very important to like the people you work with. Otherwise, your job is going to be quite miserable.

    I don’t think it’s a good idea to plan to sell a company.

    I just want to retire before I go senile because if I don’t retire before I go senile, then I’ll do more damage than good at that point.

    I hate writing about personal stuff. I don’t have a Facebook page. I don’t use my Twitter account. I am familiar with both, but I don’t use them.

    I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact.

  10. CD Wilsher says:

    Musk’s going to use the “crime scene” allegation in a suit against the Twitter Board for failing to disclose known risks. Of course, Musk waived due diligence, so I’m not sure that will help.

    [Welcome back to emptywheel. Please use the same username each time you comment so that community members get to know you. I’ve reverted the username you used to comment to that you’ve used for four previous comments as I have a suspicion you didn’t mean to use your RL name. Thanks. /~Rayne]

  11. Frank Probst says:

    Kind of off-topic, but it’s mentioned in the post, so I’ll ask: What are Anthony Fauci’s alleged crimes?

  12. harpie says:

    Max Kennerly Retweeted
    6:50 AM · Dec 12, 2022 [< EASTERN TZ]

    In the Way Back Machine:

    The capture will start in ~2 minutes, 18 seconds because we are doing too many captures of twitter.com right now. [harpie: LOL!] You may close your browser window and the page will still be saved.
    There was a delay in registering this snapshot with the Wayback Machine.
    You may be redirected to a previous version right now. This snapshot will be available later.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20221212134008/https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1602269560673009664 []
    11:50 AM · Dec 12, 2022 [< NOT EASTERN TZ]

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The account that posted Elon Musk getting booed at Dave Chapelle’s show was just deleted, for some reason. Here’s the video in question
    https://youtu.be/BdBga225HBk []

  13. John McManus says:

    This sounds a lot like the Climategate scam. Cherrypick for stuff that can be a bit vague. Remove all context from the cherries. Lie about the true meaning of said cherries.

  14. Mike Stone says:

    As someone with some technical training (i.e., Ph.D. in EECS from MIT), I also wondered about this guy Elmo. He just never struck me as someone really comfortable talking about any technical subject.

  15. Savage Librarian says:

    All That Twitters Is Not Told

    Through the night, and dawn to dusk,
    tweets now reek of too much Musk,
    With Newspeak showing on full busk,
    hide-and-seek pits a fascist husk.

    Tusk, tusk.

  16. Jared Shoemaker Jr says:

    Take heart, Elmo got dragged and humiliated by at least 15k people at a Dave Chappell show, being booed for a solid 10 mins

    • timbozone says:

      Yep, the “90% cheering for me!” was more like 9%…or maybe the 90% was what his stocks will be down to by end of 2023 if Elmo keeps the lying and hyperbole going…

  17. The Winter Hawk, Est. 49 says:

    After two+ years of reading EmptyWheel, viget and others have me me commenting. fediverse is a “yes” and the metaverse is so “yesterday.”
    “The Medium is the Message” – Marshall McLuhan, 1967
    Musk has Mossad genealogy. Hybrid powered with hydrogen is near. When I met DJT across a small table 30+ years ago – when he was JUST a failing R/E guy – I listened to his total of “reveals” – and asked myself: Who invented this guy?, I any substance, is there behind his facade? and Who owns him? He was a vary empty suit who came to buy American Airlines and at least Musk is the biz version of that. But, someone used the The Donald Bot to max power.

  18. LeftsidePortland says:

    With apologies to the real poets on this site:

    There once was a racist named Elmo
    That torched the agora in slo-mo
    He said, “What the fuck?!
    Let’s ban all the cucks!”
    Just your average Nazi with FOMO

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Imagine how powerful that makes a fascist shrunken idol like Elon feel. He won’t stop doing something that makes him feel that way, not unless he’s made to.

  19. C. Epp says:

    I always enjoy your thoughtful analysis Marcy. And just a note, I’m one of those people who has their mobile phone wifi hotspot named ‘FBI Surveillance Van’ :-)

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