On This Fourth of July, We Have to Sing

The Fourth is a day of rest, because tomorrow is the Fifth

On this Fourth of July, I think of the Fifth of July in 1852. On that day, Frederick Douglass spoke in Rochester, New York, about the national celebration that took place the day before. He opened his remarks by looking backwards:

This, for the purpose of this celebration, is the 4th of July. It is the birthday of your National Independence, and of your political freedom. This, to you, is what the Passover was to the emancipated people of God. It carries your minds back to the day, and to the act of your great deliverance; and to the signs, and to the wonders, associated with that act that day.

He described that day long past, that act of great deliverance, and noted that things had changed in some serious ways:

To say now that America was right, and England wrong, is exceedingly easy. Everybody can say it; the dastard, not less than the noble brave, can flippantly discant on the tyranny of England towards the American Colonies. It is fashionable to do so; but there was a time when, to pronounce against England, and in favor of the cause of the colonies, tried men’s souls. They who did so were accounted in their day, plotters of mischief, agitators and rebels, dangerous men. To side with the right, against the wrong, with the weak against the strong, and with the oppressed against the oppressor! here lies the merit, and the one which, of all others, seems unfashionable in our day. The cause of liberty may be stabbed by the men who glory in the deeds of your fathers.

Oops. Words became easy by 1852, as they were twisted by those seeking to be oppressors themselves. To his hearers, this line had to have sounded like thunder in the distance, putting them on notice that a storm was brewing in Douglass’ words. But Douglass took his time getting to the storm, continuing to tell the stories of the days of the founders and their efforts to throw off the British yoke. Having taken his time, however, Douglass brought the storm.

The causes which led to the separation of the colonies from the British crown have never lacked for a tongue. They have all been taught in your common schools, narrated at your firesides, unfolded from your pulpits, and thundered from your legislative halls, and are as familiar to you as household words. They form the staple of your national poetry and eloquence. . . .

I leave, therefore, the great deeds of your fathers to other gentlemen whose claim to have been regularly descended will be less likely to be disputed than mine!

My business, if I have any here today, is with the present. The accepted time with God and his cause is the ever-living now. . . .

Fellow-citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here today? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us? . . .

But, such is not the state of the case. I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us. The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice, are not enjoyed in common.-The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity and independence, bequeathed by your fathers, is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought life and healing to you, has brought stripes and death to me. This Fourth July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn. To drag a man in fetters into the grand illuminated temple of liberty, and call upon him to join you in joyous anthems, were inhuman mockery and sacrilegious irony.

And thus the thundering “BOOM” is no long sounding in the distance for Douglass’ hearers, but right there in their midst as Douglass spoke. There’s more, a lot more, to what Frederick Douglass had to say that day, and every word of it bears reading.

On this Fourth of July, I wonder what the Fifth of July, 2024, will bring.

Perhaps King Charles of Great Britain will be writing to Chief Justice Roberts about the words of his majority opinion in Trump v United States. I can imagine His Majesty politely asking Roberts when Great Britain will be getting its North American colonies back, since SCOTUS has now overturned the unfortunate, mistaken allegations about the long-ago acts of his royal predecessor, George III. If a mere president like Trump is entitled to absolute immunity when he or she uses official powers that are core to his or her office, surely the same extends to an actual king like his ancestor George III, the opinions of Thomas Jefferson et al. notwithstanding. It may have taken Ye Olde Colonies almost 250 years to overrule, void, and repudiate the Declaration of Independence, but I’m sure King Charles would be gracious and let bygones be bygones.

On this Fourth of July, on a more serious note, I think of the musician Paul Simon. In late 1968, his musical partner Art Garfunkel suggested that Simon listen to a musical tune he had come across. It was centuries old, with German lyrics, but it was the music that grabbed Simon. They were looking to craft a Christmas album, but not using the usual Christmas classics. Simon was captured by the music, but was not able to come up suitable lyrics to fit a Christmas album.

It was the “Christmas” part that was the problem. As Simon said about his songwriting process,

I spend more time writing music than writing words. The music always precedes the words. The words often come from the sound of the music and eventually evolve into coherent thoughts. Or incoherent thoughts. Rhythm plays a crucial part in the lyric-making as well. It’s like a puzzle to find the right words to express what the music is saying.

The music that Garfunkel played for Simon was a part of Bach’s St. Matthew’s Passion that became the stand-alone hymn “O Sacred Head, Now Wounded.” Even without the words, Bach’s music has the feel of conflict, betrayal, and death. Bach’s music was not the music of Christmas, but Lent. But even though he couldn’t make the tune work for that Christmas album (that never got made), Simon didn’t forget that music, and he finally found the right words to express what the music was saying.

Many’s the time I’ve been mistaken
And many times confused
Yes, and I’ve often felt forsaken
And certainly misused
Oh, but I’m all right, I’m all right
I’m just weary to my bones
Still, you don’t expect to be bright and bon vivant
So far away from home
So far away from home

In the wake of the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, as the Vietnam War continued to spew destruction and death in ever-larger measure, and as Richard Nixon was elected president, Simon mourned for his country. He knew the pain of national mistakes, the fog of confusion over the nation’s founding story, and the forsakenness of separation from what that long-ago Fourth of July promised. And he and his nation were, above all, weary.

And yet.

And yet, the mistakes, the confusion, the forsakenness, and the weariness were not the end of the song. Skipping past the second verse and the bridge, Simon ends “American Tune” like this:

For we come on the ship they call the Mayflower
We come on the ship that sailed the moon
We come in the age’s most uncertain hour
And sing an American tune
But it’s all right, it’s all right, all right
You can’t be forever blessed
Still, tomorrow’s going to be another working day
And I’m trying to get some rest
That’s all I’m trying to get some rest

I’ve heard Simon’s version of this song hundreds of times, and also versions sung by all kinds of others. Two of the covers I like the best are those of Willie Nelson and Allen Toussaint. (Toussaint recorded it for his last album, which was released after his death.) In both Nelson’s country twang and Toussaint’s jazz/blues vocalizations, each voice resonates with the knowledge of mistakes, confusion, and forsakenness, and both also sing with the knowledge that despite the weariness, the work continues.

On this Fourth of July, I know that tomorrow — the Fifth of July — is another working day for this nation. As Frederick Douglass knew, it is a day to repair the mistakes, dispel the confusion, and welcome those who feel forsaken.

Allow me to say, in conclusion, notwithstanding the dark picture I have this day presented, of the state of the nation, I do not despair of this country. There are forces in operation, which must inevitably, work the downfall of slavery. “The arm of the Lord is not shortened,” and the doom of slavery is certain.

I, therefore, leave off where I began, with hope. While drawing encouragement from “the Declaration of Independence,” the great principles it contains, and the genius of American Institutions, my spirit is also cheered by the obvious tendencies of the age. Nations do not now stand in the same relation to each other that they did ages ago. No nation can now shut itself up, from the surrounding world, and trot round in the same old path of its fathers without interference. The time was when such could be done. Long established customs of hurtful character could formerly fence themselves in, and do their evil work with social impunity. Knowledge was then confined and enjoyed by the privileged few, and the multitude walked on in mental darkness. But a change has now come over the affairs of mankind. Walled cities and empires have become unfashionable. The arm of commerce has borne away the gates of the strong city. Intelligence is penetrating the darkest corners of the globe. It makes its pathway over and under the sea, as well as on the earth. Wind, steam, and lightning are its chartered agents. Oceans no longer divide, but link nations together. From Boston to London is now a holiday excursion. Space is comparatively annihilated.-Thoughts expressed on one side of the Atlantic, are distinctly heard on the other. . . .

No abuse, no outrage whether in taste, sport or avarice, can now hide itself from the all-pervading light.

The Fourth of July is a day of rest, my friends, because the Fifth of July is a day of work.

And we’ve got a lot of work to do.

67 replies
  1. pseudo42 says:

    Great song to remind people of. In case anyone is concerned that Simon `secularized’ a hymn, the answer is no, it’s the other way around. Bach and his predecessor Paul Gerhardt turned a secular song into a hymn.

    The song started out life at least as early as 1601, long before Bach’s birth. It was a baroque-era lovesick blues number “I’m all mixed up” (Mein G’müt ist mir verwirret) by Hans Leo Hassler. (See Wikipedia article titled “O Sacred Head, Now Wounded”.) Hymn composer Paul Gerhardt adapted a medieval poem from Latin to German and set it to Hassler’s melody. Bach added his secret harmonization sauce after that.

    I seem to recall reading that Hassler might have adapted it from an older drinking song but I can’t find that reference right now.

  2. originalK says:

    How ironic and enlightening to read in the words of the 1850s the reasons why we can’t go (or more correctly, be taken) back to the 1850s!

  3. Zinsky123 says:

    Great post, Peterr! Nicely done, especially the Frederick Douglas and Paul Simon references – both geniuses in their own ways. The original 4th of July was really just a celebration for white men who owned property. Women and black people didn’t have much to celebrate until much later. Even now, women’s rights are being eviscerated by Alito, Thomas and the patriarchal ilk. Thank you for this and happy independence day to all who are truly free and let’s work like Hell for those who aren’t!

  4. jdalessandro says:

    Damn near perfect. Thanks for this. My favorite thing by Simon too.

    I deal with the depressive effects of our country’s decline by reading about the past: The Abyss, about the Cuban Missile Crisis, is currently my balm [no pun intended] for dealing with this endless procession of bad news. Mankind could have been substantially destroyed when I was 8 years old, and it was a close run thing; what could John Roberts do to match that?

    • Rayne says:

      He already did it. You’re just not thinking about it very deeply.

      Imagine a narcissistic monarch suffering from dementia under the influence of Russia and other petrostates. Imagine an airline industry without any meaningful regulation.

      For starters — I mean, the same narcissist droned another country’s general without any pushback from his country for abuse of power BEFORE he was given full immunity. Imagine what happens when this ketchup-tossing plate-throwing wretch has zero restraints.

      • David Brooks says:

        Glad you mentioned the airline industry. Pilots (I have a low-level airman certificate) are generally a libertarian lot, but they love and memorize their 14 CFR Part 91, because they know it keeps them alive.

        • Rayne says:

          It’s every damned industry. My sibling is an electrician for a chemical manufacturer, hadn’t heard about Loper Bright. I told them to imagine every electrical standard, every chemical plant standard, all the related regulations gutted by dudes who don’t know the difference between N2O and NO2.

          Reply: “Damn!!”

          Now imagine an imperial president who guts all federal agencies using Schedule F to remove personnel on Day One. The Project 2025 folks have already been drafting lists of federal employees — they’re just waiting for Inauguration Day to conduct their massacre.

          ADDER: and they’re already planning re-staffing with loyalists (gift link).

        • Spencer Dawkins says:

          I’m replying to this mention in Rayne’s reply:

          dudes who don’t know the difference between N2O and NO2.

          People who don’t know the difference between nitrogen oxide and nitrous oxide should probably spend more time inhaling nitrous oxide, and less time writing opinions that overturn Chevron deference.

          I’m looking at you, Neil Gorsuch.

      • P J Evans says:

        I spent much of the last 10 years I was working in helping put together a database of the company’s high-pressure piping, including locating *every* bit of it. 49 CFR 192.

    • Peterr says:

      Update: His hearing has come back somewhat, at least enough to enjoy singing and making music again.From Yahoo News UK a couple of days ago:

      Paul Simon is now “comfortable” singing and playing instruments as hearing in his left ear has returned.

      ‘The Sound of Silence’ singer, first revealed he was suffering hearing loss in May 2023 during an interview with The Times, but has now said it has come back to the “degree” he can now enjoy making music.

      He said during an appearance at the New York City premiere of his MGM+ docuseries ‘In Restless Dreams: The Music of Paul Simon’, in a question-and-answer session hosted by Stephen Colbert, 59: “(My hearing has) come back to enough of a degree that I’m comfortable singing and playing guitar and playing a few other instruments. . . .

  5. rockfarmer says:

    Thank you, Peterr, and the commenters, for a poignant, informative and inspiring post. I only recently discovered Allen Toussaint’s version of “An American Tune” (my favorite Paul Simon song), and listen to it nearly every day. Yes, let’s get busy.

      • posaune says:

        Absolutely! Thank you Peter for this post — exactly what I needed today. I’m forwarding to son-of-posaune.

    • LeftsidePortland says:

      YES!! Thank you for this! What a gift. I will share this with my closest and make my way to work tomorrow morning with a sense of pride and optimism that I wouldn’t have had otherwise. The gifts freely dispensed from this project are immense.

    • Rayne says:

      Please don’t drop links without context.

      The above link leads to Paul Simon and Rhiannon Giddens–American Tune live at Grammy Salute to Paul Simon.

      • Peterr says:

        What Rayne said . . .

        . . . and Rhiannon is yet another singer whose genre (American folk, banjo) pushes the basic emphasis of the song.

    • harpie says:

      Also beautiful! I thought I heard a different lyric, and it’s confirmed at Wikipedia:

      […] In his surprise appearance at the 2022 Newport Folk Festival, Simon introduced Rhiannon Giddens to sing the song, with lyrics adjusted to include the lines,

      “We didn’t come here on the Mayflower
      We came on a ship in a blood red moon”.

      Giddens backed the song with banjo, while Simon accompanied on guitar.

  6. Matt Foley says:

    I appreciate this post. Thank you.

    Unlike Douglass I feel we are not moving toward freedom and equality but away from them. I am trying to have hope only because the alternative is dread and despair. But it is hard. This quiet morning as I hung out the flag was the first time while doing so I did not feel a sense of American pride. I just feel sad right now. But I appreciate the pep talk.

    • Rayne says:

      Get in touch with your righteous anger and let it drive you to fight back.

      We are in this mess in no small part because of apathy and laziness over the last two decades. We didn’t sustain the fight we began in 2004-2006. But the stakes are too high not to mount a vigorous fight now. For some of us this is literally existential; we have no choice.

      For Frederick Douglass that was the case in 1852. Without continuing to push back against the enslavement of Americans he could find himself enslaved again. He continued in hope because “No abuse, no outrage whether in taste, sport or avarice, can now hide itself from the all-pervading light.” That’s what this place is, that’s what internet mediation has been — you have the advantage of seeing the enemy in its light. Make use of that knowledge and fight. It’s the American way.

    • originalK says:

      It would be easy to dismiss Douglass’s hope. I went from writing my comment above to reading this gem of a webpage about the Dred Scott case.

      As a young woman, the threats to set us back were high 35-40 years ago. I remember getting pushback from young men when I told them I had a no-sex-with anti-abortion, anti-gay, racist men policy. We marched, Clinton was elected and I know that today some of those same guys have multiracial, gay and transgender children (and in the biggest surprise to me, ’cause I never thought it would happen in my lifetime, some have husbands!)

      As a professional woman, I put myself out there, especially with my blue-collar colleagues, about what a bad idea it would be for them to vote for GWB in 2004 (We had elected a republican governor in our state in 2002, and I saw immediate setbacks first-hand). Among other things, they claimed he needed their support “as a wartime president” – to finish what he started. Ha ha. I’ll let others do the googling for job loss for blue-collar men during the Great Recession.

      And for at least a decade, I have been, again, interpersonally giving people the heads up that our aging baby-boomers are going to put us through some things. So here I’ll declare – again, primarily for men – if you don’t have someone holding your hand, and can guarantee her health – don’t expect that women, and especially women with experience, will be stepping up for anyone but their own. Social security and medicare surely add some stability when the going gets tough – even if they (often) don’t live up to their promise. Anyone who would rather be a Russian than a Democrat should take a look at their stats for men over 50.

  7. Yohei1972 says:

    Thank you, Peterr. One of my favorite and most profoundly moving Simons. And it’s nice to finally learn I haven’t imagined the similarity to that Bach passage.

    I attended Simon’s “farewell concert” in Flushing Meadows Corona Park, Queens, in September of 2018. I think the second to last song was an acoustic rendering of American Tune, just guitar and Simon’s voice. He introduced it by simply saying, “Strange times. Don’t give up.” Never a truer word.

  8. Chirrut Imwe says:

    Your post is profound (not for the first time). Listening to ‘American Tune’ in this moment was cathartic for me – it brings voice to my malaise. Since the debate, I have had trouble sleeping, and although I am fully aware as to why, I have minimized the emotional aspects. Your post helped me to see that I am mourning (with perhaps a touch of PTSD). Thank you for bringing me a framework to help me to cope – and hopefully do some good.

  9. FLwolverine says:

    Thank you, Peterr, and thank you, Rayne, for the reminders not to give up and also for the work you do here.

    I had not heard American Tune (!) so I listened to all three versions. It’s hard to have a preference. But I find I relate to the second verse:

    And I don’t know a soul who’s not been battered
    I don’t have a friend who feels at ease
    I don’t know a dream that’s not been shattered
    Or driven to its knees
    But it’s alright, it’s alright
    For we lived so well so long
    Still, when I think of the
    Road we’re traveling on
    I wonder what’s gone wrong
    I can’t help it, I wonder what has gone wrong

    Thanks again for helping me work past the despair.

    • Peterr says:

      The line above, near the end of Douglass’ speech, really jumped out at me again after reading your comment: “I, therefore, leave off where I began, with hope.”

      Reminds me of Harvey Milk’s campaign refrain, when talking to his supporters and urging them to work even harder as election day approached: “You gotta give ’em hope.”

      Fear is certainly one kind of motivator, but it can spiral into despair fairly fast. Hope, on the other hand, spurs folks forward toward something better, something life-giving instead of life-sapping.

  10. MsJennyMD says:

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

  11. Magbeth4 says:

    I have a feeling that Americans are going to get, in addition to the Media smears of Biden’s mental health, an overdue education refresher course in how and why our Republic was created.

    I’ve started, in the meantime, by greeting my friends with “Long Live King George XXIII!” No more hot dogs, no more firecrackers in garbage cans, no more Sousa marches, no more fireworks by the Rivers, no more flags everywhere, no more parades. Imagine how quiet it will be when King Donald struts his way, waving red flags, scowling every day from your Media, with pronouncements of the latest political persecutions (oops, prosecutions) to follow. What joy! What delight! I suggest SNL and all the rest of the late night comedy shows do little dramas of what it will be like if Trump “wins.” Not everybody is wallowing in NYT defeatist slime.

    And, yes! Frederick Douglas was a great American Genius! Why can’t our politicians think and use rhetoric such as that? Why do they dumb down their appeals to voters?

    • Rayne says:

      Americans don’t pay attention to rhetoric any longer. They are influenced — quite literally, careers are built on influence using image with the briefest of messages.

      You know who had it down and should be tapped to help with messaging today? Sarah Cooper.

      • Magbeth4 says:

        I’ve seen her, and love what she does! That; that is what I’m talking about: ridicule based on the actual things Trump has said and done.

      • rockfarmer says:

        I LOVE Sarah Cooper! Excellent idea, Rayne!! (And also, as a quick aside, as we come into the shank of summer, a reminder you have a friend in Western Alger County – me – who would love to meet you and buy you a cuppa your favorite beverage in Marquette if you make up to the UP…)

        • Rayne says:

          Thanks for the offer, rockfarmer! I’ll have to check my calendar and see if I can swing it this summer.

  12. Susanna_04JUL2024_1437h says:

    Coincidence: I just participated (for about the 12th time) in a community reading of Frederick Douglass’s “What to the Slave” speech. My part included “To say *now* that America was right . . .” Oh boy, was I ever visualizing the gutless poll-worshipping pundits. In 1776 they would have been hedging their bets. In 1852 they would have found a silver lining in the Fugitive Slave Act. It’s generally true that, as Lillian Smith wrote, “the winner names the age.” Here’s hoping that we the people, not the nervous pundits, get to name this one.

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  13. vigetnovus says:

    Amen, Peterr. Thanks for the hope today. We shall keep this Republic. And we will remind the American people that the president is not a king.

    FWIW, I think that should be Biden’s campaign slogan: I am not a king.

  14. soundgood2 says:

    Thanks for this and for the impetus to listen to the various versions of that great song, American Tune. He’s still right. Tomorrow is another working day for us to work toward the promise of the founding of this country, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal…

  15. punaise says:

    A friend sent this, hopes it’s OK to copy/paste on it’s entirety:

    A New National Anthem BY ADA LIMÓN

    The truth is, I’ve never cared for the National
    Anthem. If you think about it, it’s not a good
    song. Too high for most of us with “the rockets
    red glare” and then there are the bombs.
    (Always, always, there is war and bombs.)
    Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw
    even the tenacious high school band off key.
    But the song didn’t mean anything, just a call
    to the field, something to get through before
    the pummeling of youth. And what of the stanzas
    we never sing, the third that mentions “no refuge
    could save the hireling and the slave”? Perhaps,
    the truth is, every song of this country
    has an unsung third stanza, something brutal
    snaking underneath us as we blindly sing
    the high notes with a beer sloshing in the stands
    hoping our team wins. Don’t get me wrong, I do
    like the flag, how it undulates in the wind
    like water, elemental, and best when it’s humbled,
    brought to its knees, clung to by someone who
    has lost everything, when it’s not a weapon,
    when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly
    you can keep it until it’s needed, until you can
    love it again, until the song in your mouth feels
    like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung
    by even the ageless woods, the short-grass plains,
    the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left
    unpoisoned, that song that’s our birthright,
    that’s sung in silence when it’s too hard to go on,
    that sounds like some
    one’s rough fingers weaving
    into another’s, that sounds like a match being lit
    in an endless cave, the song that says my bones
    are your bones, and your bones are my bones,
    and isn’t that enough?

    Ada Limón, “A New National Anthem” from
    The Carrying. 2018

  16. Bay State Librul says:

    Who knows, tomorrow may bring the elevation of Kamala Harris to the Presidency, as the first woman Prez.
    “I mean, okay, sure”
    It could happen?
    We could be seeing in the future, a fist bump for the ages.

  17. Molly Pitcher says:

    Thank you Peterr.

    Today I wore black to the Sausalito 4th of July parade, with a sign that said “We beat a King once, We will do it again”.

    I follow Leigh McGowan “Politics Girl”, on IG and today’s post was a butt kick and a rallying cry for those who have gotten the vapors this past week. I recommend this very smart Canadian transplant.


    • Peterr says:

      California 4th of July parades (broadly speaking) are an interesting mix of patriotism and desire the that nation live up to its promises. Your sign sounds like it would fit in with all kinds of parades that I experienced.

  18. Doctor Cyclops says:

    The first time I heard this tune was Peter, Paul and Mary’s version of “Because All Men Are Brothers.” Here is the last verse:
    Let every voice be thunder, let every heart beat strong
    Until all tyrants perish, our work shall not be done
    Let not our memories fail us, the lost year shall be found
    Let slavery’s chains be broken the whole wide world around.

  19. CambridgeKnitter says:

    You got me thinking once again about Art Heals: The Jingle Dress Project. I learned about it from a Wonkette Tabs gif last February when I was recovering from Covid, feeling awful and really needing a lift. You can see Martini Glambassador’s gif and explanation here–https://martiniambassador.substack.com/p/the-jingle-dress-project. Watch the embedded video from PBS Utah about the project or visit the photographer’s website (tapahe.com) for more information.

  20. klynn says:

    If I was a reporter right now, I would produce a list of all the Federalist Society donors to his campaign and Heritage Foundation donors and ask Trump when he is returning their donations since he is anti Project 2025 as of today.


    And if I were the Biden-Harris campaign I would double down on fighting Project 2025 and how un American it is in all aspects.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      If Trump were serious about being against Project 2025, it would leave him without staffing proposals for a new administration.

      A new president’s team has to review and vet thousands of nominations for govt positions, and have them ready on Day One. It’s not work he could or would do, and his own staff couldn’t and wouldn’t do it either. He’s outsourced the work, along with much else.

      Trump’s claim is as accurate and reliable as Ronny Jackson’s claims about Trump’s health, height, and weight: complete fabrications.

      • Peterr says:

        At the Project 2025 website, they have the policy document posted, but also a link to where you can submit an application for a job.

        The policy doc has gotten all the attention, but this appears to be an employment recruitment site as well.

  21. Dark Phoenix says:

    Here’s the kicker:

    Number of stories by the New York Times last week on:
    – Project 2025: 6 or less
    – Joe Biden’s debate performance: 192

    This really is turning into “But Her Emails 2.0”.

  22. harpie says:

    Frederick Douglass, July 5, 1852 [from the post]:

    To say now that America was right, and England wrong, is exceedingly easy. Everybody can say it; the dastard, not less than the noble brave, can flippantly discant on the tyranny of England towards the American Colonies. It is fashionable to do so; but there was a time when, to pronounce against England, and in favor of the cause of the colonies, tried men’s souls.

    As to that quote, see this THREAD by Fordham law professor Matthew Schafer:

    Jul 4, 2024 at 11:50 AM

    July 4 story: This book is one of 50 snuck out of Philadelphia and hidden in the countryside west of Philadelphia as the British approached.

    It contains one of the first official printings (1777) of the Declaration of Independence. It looks different than you might expect. [PHOTO] [THREAD]

    The last comment links to this post:

    The Books George Washington Saved from the British
    As the British approached Philadelphia, patriots snuck books, containing an early copy of the Declaration of Independence, out of the city and hid them in the countryside. Washington saved them. https://matthewschafer.medium.com/the-books-george-washington-saved-from-the-british-4b6588b407cc Matthew Schafer May 3, 2024

  23. harpie says:

    [Historian, novelist, museum curator.]
    Jul 4, 2023 at 11:28 AM

    July 4th Parade, Tule Lake Internment Camp, 1943. [PHOTO]

    Links to:
    A “doubly strange and bewildering day:” Views of July 4th From Behind Barbed Wire
    https://matthewschafer.medium.com/the-books-george-washington-saved-from-the-british-4b6588b407cc June 30, 2016

    The caption for the photo in the comment:

    Patsy Yorita performing a flag salute
    at the Tule Lake concentration camp
    at the Independence Day parade, c. 1943.


    [FYI – I’ve approved this comment three times now, not certain why it goes back into Unapproved in Pending. ? /~Rayne]

    • harpie says:

      I’m so sorry Rayne…I don’t know either…might it have something to do with a couple of edits I made during the editing period…which was while the comment was in moderation?
      Thank you!

      This answer just automatically went into moderation as well. I think I’m entering name, email correctly…?

      [LOL I guess I don’t touch your comments until they leave the 4-minute window to play it safe! /~Rayne]

      • harpie says:

        Oy! this is embarrassing! :-/
        Sometimes the format does make a big difference in legibility.

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