Viktor Orbán’s Mar-a-Lago Field Trip

The Atlantic has a very good piece on how Trump campaign managers Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita plan to win November’s election by shifting a focus from traditional field work to (stop me if this gives you 2016 headaches) digital microtargeting.

Published as it was in the last few days, it starts by laying out the premise: Wiles and LaCivita, to the extent they were going to work, presumed that Joe Biden was the nominee.

Only one thing could disrupt that plan: a change of candidates atop the Democratic ticket.

There was always a certain danger inherent to this assault on Biden’s faculties. If Wiles and LaCivita were too successful—if too many Democrats decided, too quickly, that Biden was no longer capable of defeating Trump, much less serving another four years thereafter—then they risked losing an ideal opponent against whom their every tactical maneuver had already been deliberated, poll-tested, and prepared. Campaigns are usually on guard against peaking too soon; in this case, the risk for Trump’s team was Biden bottoming out too early.

Of course they would build a campaign against Biden. Trump has been tailoring all his electoral plans — all of them — to Joe Biden since 2018. Six years, Trump and the GOP have focused on dirtying up Joe Biden.

And they’ve had help.

In conjunction with the disruption of a Russian botnet operating on Xitter (which I may return to) on Tuesday, Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines issued one of the announcements that the Intelligence Community has been trying to get right since 2016: Russia, Iran, and China are playing in US electoral politics again. And Russia continues to target Joe Biden.

Russia’s efforts to influence this year’s U.S. election through information warfare have the same aim as in previous elections — to undermine President Joe Biden’s campaign and the Democratic Party and weaken public confidence in the electoral process, intelligence officials said Tuesday.

Russia’s election influence operations, which include covert social media accounts and encrypted direct messaging channels, are targeting key voter groups in swing states to exploit political divisions in the U.S. and erode support for Ukraine in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion, officials with the Office of the Director National Intelligence, or ODNI, told reporters.

Asked whether Russia’s information campaign is trying to boost or undermine one of the presidential candidates, an ODNI official said: “We have not observed a shift in Russia’s preferences for the presidential race from past elections, given the role the U.S. is playing with regard to Ukraine and broader policy toward Russia.”

Speaking without attribution, some spook further said that Russia was laundering its efforts through “influential US voices” and commercial firms.

“We are beginning to see Russia target specific voter demographics, promote divisive narratives and denigrate specific politicians. Moscow seeks to shape electoral outcomes, undermine electoral integrity and amplify domestic divisions,” the ODNI official said.

“To accomplish this, Moscow is using a variety of approaches to bolster its messaging and lend an air of authenticity to its efforts. This includes outsourcing its efforts to commercial firms to hide its hand and laundering narratives through influential U.S. voices,” the official said.

Such microtargeting of disgruntled types has a European counterpart — not just efforts to sway the various recent elections (which were wildly successful at the EU, but less so elsewhere), but also recruiting people to engage in sabotage.

A trove of Kremlin documents obtained by a European intelligence service and reviewed by The Washington Post illustrate the breadth of Russia’s efforts to identify potential recruits.

The documents show that in July 2023, Kremlin political strategists studied the Facebook profiles of more than 1,200 people they believed were workers at two major German plants — Aurubis and BASF in Ludwigshafen — to identify employees who could be manipulated into stirring unrest.

The strategists drew up excel spreadsheets analyzing the profiles of every worker, highlighting posts that demonstrated the employees’ anti-government, anti-immigration or anti-Ukrainian views.

At the BASF chemical plant, special attention was paid to the workers’ attitudes toward the closure of several facilities at the plant in spring 2023 because of soaring production costs, including natural gas price hikes, which led to the loss of 2,600 jobs. At the Aurubis metals plant, the strategists noted anti-immigrant views in the posts of some of the workers, one of the documents shows.

“We can concentrate on inciting ethnic hatred,” one of the strategists wrote. “Or on organizing strikes over social benefits.”

We see more on intelligence targeting in Europe than we do in the US, which is one of many reasons to suspect we know about it because the US has shared information to be released publicly (something they can’t do for US persons). But all that would change if Trump were to win the election: He has already threatened to stop sharing that kind of intelligence.

Trump advisers have told allied countries the reduced intel sharing would be part of a broader plan to scale back U.S. support and cooperation with the 32-nation alliance, according to three European officials and a senior NATO official, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal discussions.

The officials said they learned about the proposal to curb intelligence-sharing during discussions with Trump advisers about broader plans to reduce U.S. involvement with NATO. The former president repeatedly questioned and sought to undercut the alliance during his first term in office.

The curtailment of intel could have dire security consequences, especially for Ukraine as it tries to repel the Russian invasion.

“It’s the American intelligence that helped convince a lot of NATO countries that Putin was resolved to invade Ukraine,” one European official said. “Some countries didn’t believe Russia had the capabilities to carry out a successful military campaign.”

Which brings us to Viktor Orbán’s shenanigans.

Hungary just started serving a six-month term as President of the EU. No sooner had Hungary adopted that position than Orbán promptly used it to fly around the world seeking to do Vladimir Putin’s bidding.

In a leaked letter seen Tuesday by POLITICO, the Hungarian prime minister underlined Russian President Vladimir Putin’s maximalist position on Ukraine so thoroughly he could have been auditioning for the role of Kremlin spokesperson.

The missive, addressed to European Council President Charles Michel and shared with other members of the European Council, lays out Putin’s thinking about the status of his war in Ukraine — and what Orbán reckons the EU’s next steps should be.

It caps a week of manic diplomacy, during which Orbán visited Kyivthen Moscow, and then Beijing, on a self-described Ukraine “peace mission” days after Hungary assumed command of the rotating presidency of the Council of the EU.

Orbán told Michel that, according to Putin, “time is not on the side of Ukraine, but on the side of the Russian forces,” without providing evidence for the battlefield analysis.

Having largely blown off Biden at the NATO summit, Orbán heads to Mar-a-Lago today to pitch this “peace” deal.

A person familiar with Trump’s plans said the former president was scheduled to stay in Florida until Friday, at which point he would fly to Philadelphia for a rally, and that there was “no time even hypothetically” to meet with Orbán afterwards. That left Thursday as the only day that Orbán could fly down to meet with the Republican candidate.

Trump would also be wary of Orbán trying to position himself as a power broker in Europe, the person said. Bloomberg News reported that Trump had not asked Orbán to negotiate the peace deal for him.

Orbán has not had an official meeting with Biden for the past four years but met Trump in March this year at his beachfront compound in Mar-a-Lago. Orbán endorsed him several times throughout the past eight years and expressed support, calling him a “man of honor” after Trump was found guilty on 34 counts in a criminal trial.

This all comes after Trump performed like a trained seal at the debate, twice raising the Hunter Biden laptop, repeatedly claiming that Putin wouldn’t have invaded if he had been President, describing speaking to Putin before Putin did invade — and promising to achieve a peace deal before inauguration.

To think that I would, in front of generals and others, say suckers and losers – we have 19 people that said it was never said by me. It was made up by him, just like Russia, Russia, Russia was made up, just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up, just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking.

It’s the same thing. Fifty-one intelligence agents said that the laptop was Russia disinformation. It wasn’t. That came from his son Hunter. It wasn’t Russia disinformation. He made up the suckers and losers, so he should apologize to me right now.


As far as Russia and Ukraine, if we had a real president, a president that knew – that was respected by Putin, he would have never – he would have never invaded Ukraine.

A lot of people are dead right now, much more than people know. You know, they talk about numbers. You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers. He did nothing to stop it. In fact, I think he encouraged Russia from going in.

I’ll tell you what happened, he was so bad with Afghanistan, it was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, that when Putin watched that and he saw the incompetence that he should – he should have fired those generals like I fired the one that you mentioned, and so he’s got no love lost. But he should have fired those generals.

No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind, we lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated. And by the way, we left people behind too. We left American citizens behind.

When Putin saw that, he said, you know what? I think we’re going to go in and maybe take my – this was his dream. I talked to him about it, his dream. The difference is he never would have invaded Ukraine. Never.

Just like Israel would have never been invaded, in a million years, by Hamas. You know why? Because Iran was broke with me. I wouldn’t let anybody do business with them. They ran out of money. They were broke. They had no money for Hamas. They had no money for anything. No money for terror.


TRUMP: No, they’re not acceptable. No, they’re not acceptable.

But look, this is a war that never should have started. If we had a leader in this war – he led everybody along. He’s given $200 billion now or more to Ukraine. He’s given $200 billion. That’s a lot of money. I don’t think there’s ever been anything like it. Every time that Zelenskyy comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion. He’s the greatest salesman ever.

And I’m not knocking him, I’m not knocking anything. I’m only saying, the money that we’re spending on this war, and we shouldn’t be spending, it should have never happened.

I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelenskyy as president-elect before I take office on January 20th. I’ll have that war settled.

People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly, and I will get it settled and I’ll get it settled fast, before I take office.


TRUMP: Just going back to Ukraine for one second, we have an ocean separating us. The European nations together have spent $100 billion, or maybe more than that, less than us. Why doesn’t he call them so you got to put up your money like I did with NATO? I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. The secretary general of NATO said Trump did the most incredible job I’ve ever seen. You wouldn’t – they wouldn’t have any – they were going out of business. We were spending – almost 100 percent of the money was – it was paid by us.

He didn’t do that. He is getting all – you got to ask these people to put up the money. We’re over $100 billion more spent, and it has a bigger impact on them, because of location, because we have an ocean in between. You got to ask them.

As far as Israel and Hamas, Israel’s the one that wants to go – he said the only one who wants to keep going is Hamas. Actually, Israel is the one. And you should them go and let them finish the job.

He doesn’t want to do it. He’s become like a Palestinian. But they don’t like him, because he’s a very bad Palestinian. He’s a weak one.


And we mentioned the laptop, We mentioned “Russia, Russia, Russia,” “Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.” And everything he does is a lie. It’s misinformation and disinformation. The “losers and suckers” story that he made up is a total lie on the military. It’s a disgrace.


TRUMP: Just to finish what he said, if I might, Russia – they took a lot of land from Bush. They took a lot of land from Obama and Biden. They took no land, nothing from Trump, nothing.

He knew not to do it. He’s not going to play games with me. He knew that. I got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games.

He took nothing from me, but now, he’s going to take the whole thing from this man right here.

That’s a war that should have never started. It would’ve never started ever with me. And he’s going to take Ukraine and, you know, you asked me a question before, would you do this with – he’s got us in such a bad position right now with Ukraine and Russia because Ukraine’s not winning that war.

He said, I will never settle until such time – they’re running out of people, they’re running out of soldiers, they’ve lost so many people. It’s so sad.

They’ve lost so many people and they’ve lost those gorgeous cities with the golden domes that are 1,000-years-old, all because of him and stupid decisions.

Russia would’ve never attacked if I were president.

Trump said he’d get Ukraine settled, and Orbán swooped in, with his plan to “settle” it.

Note, too, how Trump links Hamas and Ukraine (and the slur, Palestinian, here). With both Hamas and Russia, Biden is facing hostage situations — most notably with Evan Gershkoich’s detention — that Trump claims he can solve.

While Trump claims to be wary of following Orbán’s lead, that’s no more credible than his claim to disavow Project 2025, the Heritage-linked project with its own ties to Orbán.

It’s all happening in front of our eyes.

But back to Trump’s campaign plan to use digital microtargeting instead of traditional field. The idea is that Trump is going to focus on people who don’t vote, and after getting people who never turn out to turn out, he’ll then throw his election deniers — people like Christina Bobb, who was indicted in Arizona for her false claims in 2020 — to “protect the vote.”

Scouring precinct-level statistics from the four previous times Trump had competed in Iowa—the primary and general elections in 2016 and 2020—they isolated the most MAGA-friendly pockets of the state. Then, comparing data they’d collected from those areas against the state’s voter file, LaCivita and Wiles found what they were looking for: Some 8,000 of those Iowans they identified as pro-Trump—people who, over the previous seven or eight years, had engaged with Trump’s campaign either physically, digitally, or through the mail—were not even registered to vote. Thousands more who were registered to vote had never participated in a caucus. These were the people who, if converted from sympathizers to supporters, could power Trump’s organization.


The RNC under Ronna McDaniel, who chaired the national party from early 2017 until LaCivita’s takeover, had become a frequent target of Trump’s ire. He didn’t like that the party remained neutral in the early stages of the 2024 primary—and he was especially furious that McDaniel commissioned debates among the candidates. But what might have bothered him most was the RNC’s priorities: McDaniel was continuing to pour money into field operations, stressing the need for a massive get-out-the-vote program, but showed little interest in his pet issue of “election integrity.”

“Tell you what,” Trump said to Wiles and LaCivita. “I’ll turn out the vote. You spend that money protecting it.”

The marching orders were clear: Trump’s lieutenants were to dismantle much of the RNC’s existing ground game and divert resources to a colossal new election-integrity program—a legion of lawyers on retainer, hundreds of training seminars for poll monitors nationwide, a goal of 100,000 volunteers organized and assigned to stand watch outside voting precincts, tabulation centers, and even individual drop boxes.

The Atlantic piece is really good for understanding what Wiles and LaCivita claim they’re doing.

But it suffers from a category error, which is believing that Trump is thinking exclusively in terms of electoral victory.

It’s all happening in front of our eyes.

44 replies
  1. says:

    Marcy –

    Please GIVE A TRIGGER WARNING before quoting so much Trump! Those of us using oral disability readers can’t just jump ahead easily like you can with eyes on the page. And Trump is particularly triggering for those from DV or IPV backgrounds.

    I understand why you needed us to confront Trump’s firehose of lies, blame, collective dehuminizing, and executing his sinister plot…. so the length helps display this effectively and is an effective editorial choice. I’m just struggling to get my heart rate down!

    Your piece did give me hope that should the Dem ticket be shuffled, foreign country-election-meddlers might not have sufficient time to embed their candidate-specific-propaganda in our electorate’s psyche.

    Thanks to your service to our country and our Democracy.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      A trigger warning? On Marcy’s own blog? Even if snark, it’s a dozen hot dogs too many.

  2. oldtexasguy says:

    Stories like this makes me nostalgic for the past, when the US meddled in the national elections of weaker “third world” countries, with total impunity and disregard for the consequences. I am sure that our domestic right wing believe it is easier to govern the US if we act like a developing country and bow to the will of the Trumpistas.

    [Thanks for updating your username to meet the 8 letter minimum. Please be sure to use the same username and email each time you comment. /~Rayne]

  3. Critter7 says:

    You write, “It’s all happening in front of our eyes.” Yes it is, and it is stunning, gobsmacking, so far out of the norm that it is hard for people to see it.

    Thank you for putting a spotlight on it, Marcy.

    The only way for the American people to find their way out of this is electorally. History shows that ineffective political opposition is one factor that allows authoritarians to take over democracies. And, as all this goes on in front of our eyes, the Democrats are dithering.

    The Democratic presidential campaign needs a leader, a person who can clearly communicate to the American people is happening, how our democracy is being subverted, what a Trump presidency would actually look like, and why a government led by a political party committed to democracy is better than the authoritarian oligarchy being proposed by the other side.

    Joe Biden: If you can lead a presidential campaign that does that, please step forward and do it. If not, please step aside, and will a new leader who can focus the public’s attention on what is right in front of our eyes take the stage, please.

    • ToldainDarkwater says:

      I watched Biden speaking at a very recent campaign rally. It sure looked to me like he was doing exactly that. And it also looks to me like plenty of the people Marcy mentioned in this post would love to paint Biden and Democrats as ineffective.

      I recommend that *you* personally start doing your own campaigning. Post clips of Biden speaking in defense of democracy, or listing out Trump’s liabilities. Biden called Trump a “one-man criime wave”. Did you know that? If not, why not? Where has this process gone wrong?

  4. PeteT0323 says:

    Surely the prospects of Kamala Harris – and perhaps other Dems – taking the lead as the Dem candidate for POTUS has been gamed but not (much) public discussion of that.

    I firmly believe that a key strength of any POTUS is the people he surrounds himself with and to that end I think Biden has done – and would do – well. We KNOW what Trump is going to do, but I digress.

    But the electorate votes for the candidate and not (so much) the administration.

    So it’s not whether Joe thinks he can do the job. Clearly there has been chatter – hopefully not just disinfo (or maybe hopefully so) – that being POTUS for 4 years has had a (negative) impact on Biden. I’d be surprised if it had not – on anyone in that role. Look at the physical changes of any past POTUS So, it may not be as much about now for Biden, but 2, 3, 4 years downstream. I remember Ronald Reagan.

    It’s a beast of a decision to make, but having well laid plans for over 2 years for Trump to setup for Biden pulled out from under them….could be priceless.

    I will vote DEM no matter though I consider myself independent. And being so, I cannot vote for Project 2025,

    • timbozone says:

      Maybe. But it’s not clear that Trump himself was concentrating on that earlier this year. And further, Trump is no spring chicken himself so while he was able to lie, lie, lie during the recent debate, that doesn’t mean he’ll be able to deliver again if faced with anyone who is not suffering a cold and the distractions of trying to keep NATO and the EU together during general elections on that continent, handle the Gaza humanitarian disaster to something better than an unmitigated disaster, etc.

    • SelaSela says:

      “I’d be surprised if it had not – on anyone in that role. Look at the physical changes of any past POTUS ”

      Except for Trump. He perfected a way to make his presidency negatively impact all of us and everyone else, instead of himself.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Like Benjamin Button, Trump gets younger, better, prettier as years pass – in his own mind. Pity so many people believe him, or don’t care. They want their Savior, no matter how flawed.

      • ToldainDarkwater says:

        It’s amazing what not giving a crap about how the country is doing can accomplish.

    • Dark Phoenix says:

      Oh, they’ve gamed it out, all right; the RNC has a team of lawyers ready to file suits against removing Biden from the ticket in the swing states. It’s frivolous, but they’re not hoping to win, just delay until November so Trump is the only name on the ballot in the swing states.

      • fatvegan000 says:

        Biden isn’t the official nominee until the convention, so he can’t be on any tickets yet, can he?

        • Dark Phoenix says:

          Yeah, I know. It’s been pointed out repeatedly. I don’t think it’s going to stop them; all they need is a delay until November.

    • stillscoff says:

      “I will vote DEM no matter though I consider myself independent. And being so, I cannot vote for Project 2025,”

      You’re not alone in that. Biden won in 2020 in part because he was “not Trump.”

      He still isn’t, and I want to believe enough Americans would still prefer anyone who is ‘not Trump,” so I don’t think it’s going to matter a lot if it’s Biden or Harris or someone else. “Not Trump” is going to cover a lot of ground.

  5. harpie says:

    Reading this post, I’ve been thinking about the time on 6/29/24,
    when EarlofHuntingdon started a short conversation, beginning with:

    earlofhuntingdonsays: // June 29, 2024 at 5:37 pm
    “Trump’s jet sits next to Russian government plane for two days in ‘isolated’ area [at Dulles].”

    Who could have predicted? In politics, there are no coincidences. [See MORE]

    Also thinking about the 8/2/16 MANAFORT cigar bar meeting.

  6. zscoreUSA says:

    About the “suckers and losers” comment, I believe the comment itself was part of back channelling process to Putin.

    Shortly after the 2018 midterm election, Trump was in France and skipped the visit to the American soldier cemetery due to “rain”.

    In September 2020, the Atlantic reported that rain wasn’t the real reason to skip, but that Trump didn’t respect “suckers and losers”, aka soldiers who sacrificed themselves for peace and security of their country. But they didn’t bring up the phone call between Putin and Trump with Trump being in the hotel.

    The phone call had been reported by Tass, and I forget if it even had a readout on the US side. (I’m going off memory here but I remember the Trump years seem to have readouts generally reported out on the Russian side before the US readout.) I believe the “suckers and losers” comment would have the effect of clearing advisors and staff from the room to allow a more private phone conversation to occur between Putin and Trump.

  7. David Brooks says:

    I must say, Tim Alberta’s article in the Atlantic scared me to death. And it’s not “a category error, which is believing that Trump is thinking exclusively in terms of electoral victory”. It focuses on the pair’s confidence in winning the election, which is all it takes. The rest is self-executing. And Alberta does have the ear of the other side, despite Trump complaining about him in the past.

    Yes, Wiles and LaCivita are grandstanding and self-confident. But it sounds all too plausible to me, whoever our candidate. And they have learned from the chaos of 16 and 20.

    To pre-echo the expected response: time to work like mad to turn this ship around.

    • Matt___B says:

      “Self-executing”, like section 3 of the 14th amendment was supposed to be in the Colorado case? (I know there can be other interpretations of that phrase)…

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Brave, Sir Robin, to challenge Marcy on her word choice, here about a “category error.” Not often a winning hand.

      • David Brooks says:

        If it had been censored, I would have gone with an incoherent (but still brave) rant about my First Amendment Rights.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        No need. Trump isn’t yet president. Arguments stand or fall on their own foundation.

    • Dark Phoenix says:

      They want Trump to project “strength”, but the only strength he projects is the strength of a bully punching down at those he deems weaker than himself.

  8. Upisdown says:

    Trump should enlist Mike Pompeo to help Orban and Putin. He did such a stellar job with our Taliban surrender.

  9. gmokegmoke says:

    from The Mass Psychology of Fascism by Wilhelm Reich (NY: Farrar, Strauss, & Giroux, 1970)

    “Hitler not only established his power from the very beginning with masses of people who were until then, essentially non-political; he also accomplished his last step to victory in March of 1933 in a ‘legal’ manner, by mobilizing, no less than five million non-voters, that is to say, non-political people. The Left parties had made every effort to win over the indifferent masses, without posing the question as to what it means ‘to be indifferent or non-political.'”

    “… To be non-political is not, as one might suppose, evidence of a passive psychic condition, but of a highly active attitude, a _defense_ against the awareness of social responsibility.”

    • Dark Phoenix says:

      Most non-voters either believe the government can’t affect them in any way, or believe staying out of it means they can complain no matter who wins and then assert they “didn’t vote for the winner”.

  10. Chirrut Imwe says:

    “I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelenskyy as president-elect before I take office on January 20th. I’ll have that war settled.

    People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly, and I will get it settled and I’ll get it settled fast, before I take office.”

    I know they don’t care, but isn’t this type of thing what got Michael Flynn in trouble?

  11. harpie says:

    ew: 2016 headaches…for me, it’s more like PTSD. [not meaning to minimize]

    Update on Cambridge Analytica funder Rebekah Mercer who runs Emerdata, co-founded 1789 Capital with Omeed Malik and is a key trustee of the Heritage Foundation which launched Project 2025 Wendy Siegelman 07.08.24

    […] The Mercer family distanced themselves from Bannon and then from Trump during the 2020 election. But in April of this year Rebekah and Robert Mercer attended a dinner with Donald Trump and they were two of a few dozen co-chairs of a fundraising dinner for Trump in Palm Beach, Florida. […]

    • harpie says:

      […] Rebekah Mercer is still running the current Cambridge Analytica companies – Emerdata Ltd and Dynamo Recoveries Ltd

      Cambridge Analytica became known after they helped get Trump elected by targeting voters and then they were exposed for harvesting data from tens of millions of people on Facebook and other shady practices. […]

    • Konny_2022 says:

      Thanks for recalling Cambridge Analytica which has completely vanished from the media after its formal dissolution. Yet it stayed on my mind, mostly because of its strange entanglement not only with the 2016 elections in the US but also with Brexit in the UK in the summer of 2016, and the alleged leads to Russia in both cases. (I could provide sources b/c I’ve collected many articles on CA back then, but I had to delve into my older harddrives.)

      Whenever a legal entity is being dissolved, there will remains be staying beneath the surface.

  12. klynn says:

    A little OT but… interesting counter disruption of sorts.

    There’s micro targeting and then there’s “micro targeting” in the digital world:

    “SiegedSec, a collective of self-described “gay furry hackers,” claimed credit for breaking into the private database of the Heritage Foundation, the think tank behind the right-wing wish list for Donald Trump’s second term known as Project 2025. The group, which opposes Project 2025, posted their scalp on Telegram, announcing that they gained access to the passwords, user information, and “other juicy info” from “every user” of the database, including Heritage President Kevin Roberts.”

    This has been an interesting story to follow.

    • Dark Phoenix says:

      Man, the Heritage goofballs really think they’ve already won, don’t they? Every time something they don’t like happens, it’s “YOU WILL PAY!”, the implied “WHEN WE SEIZE COMPLETE POWER” unstated.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Trumpists tend toward the, “Believing will make it so, regardless of external reality.”

  13. harpie says:

    In the Atlantic article, this stood out to me:
    Alberta, re: James Blair, 35, political director for Trump and the RNC:

    […] As Blair and I stood up to leave the conference room, he stopped me. The smirk was gone. He wanted to make something clear: He takes these decisions very seriously. “Because if we lose,” he said, “I think there’s a pretty good chance they’re going to throw us in jail.”

    It was a startling moment. I’d heard campaign aides make offhand remarks before about expecting to end up incarcerated for helping Trump. But this was more direct, more paranoid. Blair was telling me that, in a second Biden administration, he expected deep-state flunkies to arrest him for the crime of opposing the president. And he wasn’t alone. Brian Hughes, a campaign spokesperson known for his extensive government work and generally affable demeanor, nodded in agreement as Blair spoke. “I think we all feel that way,” Hughes said. […]

  14. Depressed Chris says:

    Given all the facts we have about the orange pustule’s first term, Mueller report, impeachments, his own proclamations, his rape conviction, his fraud conviction, his ongoing (but stalled) other trials, the musings of his goons, and his stinky farts, I’m not sure that there are “undecided” voters in either party. I believe that this election will be decided by voter turn-out and vote suppression efforts. I put Ruskie-style disinformation in the vote suppression category. If the count is close or maybe even if it’s not, I expect team orange to run to the courts, hoping to use manufactured (possibly pre-staged) irregularities to impede, confuse, or de-legitimize the results. Maybe something akin to a Reichstag fire. It would appeal to the rubes. I’m guessing that they have already primed the pump for this tactic in swing states and have Judge Kacsmaryk’s home number handy for the Federal venue-shopping part. Then Kavanaugh might get a chance to tell the hell-bound, rotting soul of Rehnquist to “Hold my beer” while he dog piles onto an atomic “Bush v. Gore” decision that stops the count and lets loose the hounds of hell. I’m hoping and working for at least a 70% turn-out so that we can shut-down the courts with a demonstrable mandate.

  15. Sussex Trafalgar says:

    Vladimir Putin and Semion Mogilevich have sent their puppet, Viktor Orbán, to conduct continued maintenance programming of Trump.

    Someday, maybe some members of the US media will understand that Putin and Mogilevich, along with Roman Abramovich, Oleg Deripaska and Dmytro Firtash are nothing more than organized crime authoritarian killers who control Hungary by controlling its authoritarian leader, Orbán, and who also covet controlling the US by controlling its wannabe authoritarian leader, Trump.

    The 2024 US Presidential election is really only a contest between Vladimir Putin and the US voters.

    A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin.

    A vote for Biden is a vote to defeat Putin and Putin’s oligarchs and Trump.

  16. Knowatall says:

    100% agreed; much more in depth reporting should happen vis-a-vis Mogilevich, who is a malevolent actor in Israel, too.

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