2024 Remains an Unpredictable Race: Six Predictable Things that Could Still Upend It
Donald Trump announced he was running in the 2024 Presidential race over 21 months ago. Tomorrow marks four weeks since Joe Biden dropped out of the race. It marks two weeks since Vice President Harris became the presumptive Democratic nominee. Monday, the Democratic Convention starts.
Back before and when Joe Biden dropped, I was certain about two things: that Kamala Harris would bring a lot more stamina to the race and she would give much better voice to a pro-Choice position that could impact the outcome of the race. I was also pretty sure that because someone was out selling wildly successful policies, both Biden and Harris’ approval ratings would improve (remember my screen caps are 5 hours ahead of ET; this tweet was three hours after Biden dropped and two after he endorsed Harris).
I hoped that Kamala would break the Double Hater logjam that has characterized the past two Presidential races (and this one, until that point).
Kamala’s approval ratings have gone up (Biden’s are less dramatic, but have ticked up maybe a point so far).
And newfound enthusiasm, especially among Independent voters, suggests the Vice President may, indeed, break that Double Hater logjam.
That said, I think far too many people are complacent in their belief that Harris will continue to slowly grow a lead that will be sustainable in the face of whatever rat-fuckery Trump tries in November.
If we’ve learned one thing about the 2024 election, it’s that normal predictions won’t hold.
I still think a true Black Swan event is possible — something like a global war.
I also think the unpredicted and widespread notoriety of Project 2025 will upend any normal political outcomes. It’s not just a post-Dobbs election (with abortion on the ballot in swing states like Arizona), but continued coverage of Project 2025 in both the political and the popular press has put democracy on the ballot in a surprising way.
But even the following six things are quite possible, which could significantly affect the race in a number of ways.
Big protests at DNC: Many of the people pressuring Biden to drop, including Nancy Pelosi, favored some kind of speed primary. Instead, Biden and Harris managed to make that impossible within 24 hours of his departure. So instead of a wildly divisive Convention, Harris can instead mostly look forward to a lovefest, where the biggest questions are whether Jimmy Carter can manage a video cameo and which surprise performers — potentially including Bruce Springsteen, Beyoncé, or even Taylor Swift will show up.
The very important caveat to that, though, is that around 30 Uncommitted delegates can will cause some dissension inside the Convention and tens of thousands of protestors will cause even more outside of it. It’s the latter I’m most worried about. The protests themselves will restore attention to the ongoing catastrophe in Gaza. But they’re also an easy target that provocateurs and right wing cops can exploit.
Meaningful ceasefire in Israel — or, further escalation: In the face of potential escalation, negotiators have redoubled efforts to forge some kind of ceasefire deal. But there’s some reason to believe that Trump and Bibi will thwart this at all costs.
The potential for Gaza to dampen Democratic enthusiasm (or to juice third party candidates) has long been a focus. But few have fully unpacked how it has been exploited by the right. So one way or another, this continues to be the most obvious pivot for more dissension among likely Democratic voters.
And all that’s before Iran’s very real efforts to target Donald Trump.
Superseding indictment and/or September sentencing for Trump: As of right now, Trump is due to be sentenced in his New York document fraud case on September 18 and the parties in Trump’s January 6 case should begin discussing what to do about SCOTUS’ immunity indictment in early September.
Yesterday, Trump asked to delay the sentencing until after the election. Roger Parloff gave a nuanced assessment of the mostly but not entirely frivolous request. Even if he’s sentenced, it’s not at all clear that Juan Merchan would sentence Trump to prison time.
Meanwhile, I’m not the only one who thinks that Jack Smith asked for an extension until the last possible day to supersede Trump before the election because he may be contemplating such a course (since I wrote that post, DOJ has chose to recharge even more crime scene January 6ers charged with obstruction). A superseding indictment might add his co-conspirators (what others predict) or change the crimes charged against Trump (my own suspicion). One way or another, though, there will be legal proceedings on the January 6 case in September, proceedings that have the possibility to expose more details about how closely Trump’s team worked with the Proud Boys or about how central a role Trump played in sending bodies to the Capitol.
The thing about both these eventualities is that it’s not at all clear whether the rule to date — that Trump’s legal troubles only make him more popular with right wingers — will hold, not least because independent voters will finally be tuning in. And even if they do, they’ll happen against a backdrop where Kamala is running as a prosecutor who has taken on thugs like Trump in the past.
Another tumultuous debate: Trump actually had a really poor debate in June, but a combination of asymmetric press coverage and normalization of Trump covered for that. If he has another such debate, it could serve as a real weight on his campaign.
But it’s really not guaranteed that Kamala will ace a debate either. Trump’s ability to reframe entire conversations is unmatched, and thus far no moderator has been able to rein that in. Plus, for at least half of Trump’s presidential debate appearances, he has arranged some kind of gimmick for them (such as hosting Tony Bobulinski or making a framed false claim about Biden’s role in the Mike Flynn investigation). Usually, they fizzle, but you can’t guarantee they will.
Further decline in Trump’s mental state: Honestly, I think the degree to which Trump’s rambling and grievance are new is wildly overblown. He has always been like this. But I think the way in which it has been perceived of late has changed. That’s partly true because his schtick has gotten tired enough that even Trumpsters have begun to tune out (and occasionally, leave his events) in noticeable numbers. Because Trump has attempted to replace his big rallies in recent weeks, appearing at events with smaller or no crowds, he hasn’t gotten the juice he normally gets from crowd adulation that he needs to pull off his performances.
That may change now that the Secret Service has developed a plexiglass booth to protect him outdoors.
Even still, Kamala Harris has found ways to trigger Trump’s ugliest side, making it harder for him to control his grievances.
As a result, the press and some Republicans have begun to comment on his mental performance in a way they’ve haven’t done since 2016.
Far right political violence: As I laid out here, Trump’s allies and Elon Musk have both been part of a transnational effort to stoke violence based on fearmongering about migrants. In the past, right wing efforts to sow fear based on fabricated claims about caravans and the like have failed. And there’s always the likelihood that Trump’s mob will rise up in response to one of the events above, such as a superseding indictment.
As noted at the start of this post, it is possible that Kamala Harris will continue to engage new voters, competing in states (started with North Carolina) that haven’t been competitive in years.
But that’s if trends continue. And this year, there’s lots of reason to question whether they will.
Update: WaPo’s latest (very positive for Kamala) poll shows that the number of people happy with their choices for POTUS have gone up 16 points, a measure of the decline in Double Haters.
In July, when the contest was still Biden vs. Trump, 28 percent of voters overall said they were satisfied with the choice. Today, 44 percent say they are satisfied with the choice of Harris or Trump.
7. Post-election undermining of a Harris/Walz victory. It won’t even have to be a close election. In fact, the larger the reported margin, the greater the cries of fraud, threats to election officials and possible street action will be. Trump has been laying the groundwork for this since before 1/6/2021 and now has complete control of the GOP, much of the Federal judiciary, and a solid 43-45% of the electorate on his side. He will not go gentle into that good night.
In re: Musk and transnational effort to stoke violence — IMO it’s important to remember who/what financed Musk’s acquisition of the dead bird app. They co-sign what Musk is doing as they have not reined him in.
This includes the fascist techbros at Andreesen-Horowitz, Saudi Prince Al Waleed, and Qatar’s sovereign fund, the latter two owning or financing approximately a quarter of the acquisition. (Some portion of the other financers may be owned/financed by KSA and Qatar.)
Why are two petrostates continuing to foment violence in the US and abroad through their puppet Musk?
Excellent piece/post!
Elon Musk’s maternal grandparents and their children, including Musk’s mother, Maye Haldeman, moved from Canada to South Africa about two years after South Africa became an official apartheid state.
While growing up in apartheid South Africa,
Maye Haldeman met and married Musk’s father.
What type of person wants to live or grow up in an apartheid state?
Elon Musk has lived the life of white privilege his entire life. He’s a practicing authoritarian racist who has convinced himself he’s a libertarian free speech/free enterpriser.
Today, Musk is nothing but a dopey magnet who attracts millions of dollars annually from like minded racist authoritarian dictators.
“moved from Canada to South Africa”
Musk moved from SA to Canada, and from there to the US.
I wasn’t familiar with Musk’s grandfather’s bio, but here’s reporting from The New Yorker that confirms and expands on Sussex Trafalgar’s comment.
See PJ’s response, at 12:28pm. A number of white South Africans washed up in Canada after the end of apartheid. If you talked to them, their schtick was – “The Africans will run the country into the ground. Why would we stay?” Unspoken was another reason: the whites are going to lose power, status.
Meanwhile, just down the street from us was an Asian/White couple, who had fled South Africa in the late 60s because they wanted to marry and have kids. The man was Asian-Canadian (2nd generation) and had gone to SA as a technician, hence, had been awarded “honorary white” status by the government. That didn’t change his experience on the street very much.
I’ve spent a little time in SA, particularly around jo’burg. I’ve a few chinese south african friends there. I got them to tell me stories of growing up in the 80s in such a place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_South_Africans#Apartheid_era_(1948%E2%80%931994)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_whites
A lot of the asian peoples there wangled their way into the “honorary white” category when they could. Seems anyone will hack the rules to their advantage if they can. At least the ones who didn’t want to leave.
The biggest take away from this was the apartheid system was f****d and a f****d concept from the get go. If you have to shim in that many exceptions into anything, maybe it’s not working?
Q: What type of person wants to live or grow up in an apartheid state?
A: The kind of person who is either escaping something possibly far worse and/or can’t realistically go anywhere else.
There’s a huge chinese and huge indian population there. (Durban curries are a good if very hot thing!) I’m pretty sure during the 60s and 70s it was better than any other available alternative.
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August 17, 2024 at 11:08 pm
A2: The kind of person who doesn’t realize they live in an apartheid, ex. most Americans.
Also the kind of person who is in denial about living in an apartheid, ex. most Americans.
Some folks badly need to understand that voter suppression which must be overcome often overlaps racially segregation in the U.S. — that’s apartheid.
To someone inured to and/or unbothered by South Africa’s apartheid past, voter suppression looks like nothing and yet it’s what ensures apartheid continues.
Here’s some relevant context timeline info for Waleed’s purchase of Elon’s Twitter:
Oct 2015: purchase 5.2% of Twitter
https://archive.is/cWUE3
11/4/17 to 1/18/18: jailed at Ritz-Carlton as MBS seizes $100 billion in assets from wealthy Saudis
July 2018: promoted tweet that he supports his “brother” MBS and Vision 2030
https://archive.is/7p0ZI
4/14/22: tweets that $54.20 is too low and rejects Elon’s offer to purchase Twitter, to which Elon replies asking his true holding value and position on free speech
5/5/22: replies to Elon he will be a great CEO and Waleed & his company Kingdom Holdings will happily rollover their ~$1.9 billion into “new” twitter
5/22/22: Reuters reports MBS controlled sovereign wealth fund (PIF) will buy 16.87% stake in Kingdom Holdings for $1.5 billion
Thanks for that. Let’s not forget the spies since Waleed just happens to acquire an initial chunk of Twitter after spying began:
source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/former-twitter-employees-charged-with-spying-for-saudi-arabia-by-digging-into-the-accounts-of-kingdom-critics/2019/11/06/2e9593da-00a0-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html
Timeline entries:
08/XX/2013 — Ali Hamad Alzabarah worked for Twitter-SF as site reliability engineer.
11/13/2013 — Ahmad Abouammo worked for Twitter as media partnership manager for MENA region.
08/XX/2014 — Ahmed Almutairi entered US on student visa, worked as a social media advisor to Saudi royal.
11/06/2019 — DOJ charged Twitter employees Abouammo and Alzabarah, and Almutairi with
— 18 USC 951 Acting as Agent of Foreign Government Without Notice to Attorney General
— 18 USC 1519 Destruction, Alteration, or Falsification of Records in Federal Investigations
Criminal complaint: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1215836/dl
Link to KSA’s Vision 2030 wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Vision_2030
And a couple interesting tidbits about Qatar, who is hosting Hamas leaders and peace negotiations:
1) CIA Chief William Burns just recently awarded Qatar’s intelligence chief
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/15/cia-award-qatar-intelligence-official
2) Just A few months ago, invested in Christopher Ruddy’s right wing News Max.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/27/qatari-royal-invested-50-million-in-pro-trump-news-channel-newsmax-report.html
Ruddy was the biggest backer in pardoning Kerik, whom he brought to Mar a Lago in February 2019, as Hunter’s digital account had suspicious activity right before the laptop ended up being abandoned at a repair shop. And, oddly, fwiw, he was embedded with the journalists who were investigating the death of Vince Foster. Those journalists began to distrust Ruddy as they viewed him as spying on their progress to report back to the intelligence community. The Vince Foster death and investigation is something I don’t know much about and plan to learn more, but I note that reputation he gave to the journalists.
I can’t figure out how this is supposed to work. Or perhaps that’s the point — the normalization of relations between Israel and KSA which has been a US foreign policy goal, for which so much of the materiel continues to ship to Israel as incentive to stay engaged, is just a shell game and the US is being duped by Netanyahu on behalf of Israel and by KSA and other Arab petrostates aligned with KSA.
I’m not sure either. And, since mid-September 2023, I’ve been tracking daily Arab-Israeli developments and recording updates along side a Hunter Biden laptop timeline.
I struggle following the relationships of each country in the Middle East, and who supports or who hates who.
Here’s a quote from Tom Barrack in the Politico article that reported Kushner’s secret rendezvous with MBS in October 2017: “The key to solving [the Israel-Palestine] dispute is Egypt. And the key to Egypt is Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia.”
Barrack leaves out Qatar. And later in the article, the White House said Kushner spoke to the following countries: “Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, Jordan and Saudi Arabia,” which also omits Qatar.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/29/jared-kushner-saudi-arabia-244291
The World Factbook shows some of the on-again-off-again relationship between Qatar and the other Arab nations. Noting the support for journalism and Qatar’s position towards the Arab Spring.
https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/qatar/
Not only does the electorate need to know about Project 2025, but also the Seven Mountain Mandate as well. Conservatives want BOTH of these plans implemented.
Also on the topic of right wing violence, ProPublica has an article today about AP3, a large, well-organized group with ties to law enforcement and other professionals.
It’s hard to know how seriously to take them.
https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-secret-ap3-militia-american-patriots-three-percent
Thanks for that article. I am “enjoying” watching our little liberal town fund right wing cops. Frederick just retired after a tough 25 years and is busy packing up his military transport truck and roll-off semi trailer for parts unknown. I so want to X-Ray this military equipment and his roll-off.
Elected city officials are afraid to question the police operations to satisfy me and we liberals do not do ourselves any favors by falling all over poorly thought out proposals that do little for public safety but keep the police funded. MADD’s quest to lower the BAC from 0.1 to 0.08 and beyond is the poster child for this phenomena.
Thanks for highlighting the ProPublica piece.
They cited one of the Wired pieces, too.
“Militias Are Recruiting Off of the Trump Shooting
“You can sit and enjoy the show,” wrote the leader of a Kentucky militia on Facebook. “Or you can join it. There will come a time, you will have no choice!””
[snip]
“An attack on President Trump was an attack on us, people like us—like-minded American patriots,” says Scott Seddon, the Pennsylvania-based founder of the American Patriots Three Percenters (APIII), in a video posted to TikTok on Sunday”
Tess Owen
Wired
July 15, 2024
https://www.wired.com/story/militia-recruitment-trump-shooting-assassination-attempt/
https://www.wired.com/story/far-right-militias-extremism/
As noted, the group is also *still* active on Facebook.
Of course, they put their feet up on X.
David Neiwert has eyes on what might be next.
The Age Of Insurrection
David Neiwert
“An important book, offering the clearest explanation of how dark forces conspired to overthrow our democratically elected government and install a fascist regime in its place. And it’s a warning that what comes next might be even worse… His prose is passionate, thoughtful, at times blisteringly funny and always deeply morally engaged with the importance of the work.”
Paul Constant
The Seattle Times
June 29, 2023
https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/books/a-leading-expert-on-far-right-extremists-explains-how-america-fell-into-the-age-of-insurrection/
Seth Cotlar re: that ProPublica piece:
https://bsky.app/profile/sethcotlar.bsky.social/post/3kzw7vcilsu26
Aug 17, 2024 at 9:57 AM
I vote for the Domestic Terror Cells [DTC] terminology.
Yes, no one knows, except for one person, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMlRpN8ANrU,
We can get out the vote!
One. “Trump’s ability to reframe entire conversations is unmatched, and thus far no moderator has been able to rein that in.” Is there anyone you know (likely not a current network person) who could rein that in?
Two. I looked up “famous prognosticators” after reading this post, and came upon one Daniel Dunglas Home who in the 1800s made his name by healing the sick and communicating with the dead families and friends of his clients. Home was from Scotland but moved to the United States as a child, and went onto become a well-known physical medium and self-professed clair-voyant who gained fame with the elite on the east coast. He was famous for his so-called ability to let spirits speak directly through him. He also gained a following for his ability to levitate. Tables would dance in his presence, and history has it that he is said to have even levitated his own body to the ceiling in some seances. Many called Home a fraud steeped in trickery, but others backed his act, claiming it to be tried and true magic.
Hmm. Might we well received today by some folk.
Link error: both the “asked to delay” and “gave a nuanced assessment” links in the following sentence go to the Blanche/Bove link request letter.
“Yesterday, Trump asked to delay the sentencing until after the election. Roger Parloff gave a nuanced assessment of the mostly but not entirely frivolous request.”
TY, fixed, but here it is:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1824118962973483257.html
Great post, lot to chew on here. I know the blog policy is you wanna write an essay, start a blog, so 1 thing. There are 2 publicly known components (I know of) to the plan to game the electoral college, the Turning Point USA volunteers to “ensure the vote”, and the state leg electoral voter list ratfucking, plus various lawsuits based on the chaos caued by the 2 above. I think those deserve a spot on your list.
I agree. Much problem solving needed.
https://bradblog.com/?p=15130
Watchdog Group Publishes Legal Roadmap to Ensure Timely Certification of 2024 Election
State-by-state analysis serves as warning to rogue election officials…
By Ernest A. Canning
“Non-profit government watchdog, Citizens for Ethics in Washington (CREW) has detailed what they describe as an illegal plot among Trump-supporting county election officials to sabotage the certification of the 2024 election results.
“In a lengthy and detailed State-by-State Analysis …( https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/election-certification-under-threat/ ) released this week, CREW is offering a roadmap of legal remedies in each of eight battleground states that, if followed, they believe can defeat the looming threat posed by such a scheme and ensure timely certification of results in this November’s Presidential election…”
………………….
https://www.mind-war.com/p/elephant-in-the-room
Elephant in the Room
If we allow SCOTUS back in the building, we will be in either 1933 or 1861
Jim Stewartson
“My idea is simple, Joe Biden should close the Supreme Court building until the next President is inaugurated.”
We’re still dealing with MAGA criminals from 2020 election.
https://apnews.com/article/tina-peters-election-computer-breach-8a171657321dd595dfd2dd81e0a0a848
Once again, Fox failed to report this.
7: October Surprise
A cease-fire deal in Gaza *would* be an October Surprise. Remember, though, the original meaning of “October Surprise” was preventing one, namely the return of the hostages from Iran before the election. And as Marcy points out, Trump and Bibi are probably doing everything possible to prevent a Gaza deal, so this doesn’t really count as a separate topic.
Prediction: next week, Vance out and movie actor or RFK in. Trump loves to be the center of attention and what better way than to go back to his tried and true slogan: “You’re fired”? And do it during the Democratic National Convention. I’ve noticed that sometimes the day’s narrative isn’t about Trump, it’s about Vance.
That would be another failure – he doesn’t want someone who will take attention away from him. (He isn’t a good judge of people, IMO.)
Trump doesn’t want to be seen as having made a bad decision, but he ALWAYS wants someone to blame when things are going badly for him. After Sneaky Kamala pulled a coup on Sleepy Joe –JV Vance just didn’t deliver on what he’d promised to Trump. It’s not certain that Trump will dump Vance, but he can frame it do his satisfaction if he wants to. I think the thing will be if Trump finds someone who has the zip he wants (while also being appropriately sycophantic).
There are many ways this could go wrong for Trump but he’d love to steal the news cycle.
Ballot deadlines are approaching. He has about two weeks to fck it up.
(Because he’s not a good person, imo.)
In trading there’s a “flight to safety” sequence of investments that usually happens when perceived risk rises.
However, those safe investments change over time.
Trump n the GOP in general have benefitted from such in politics in the past.
Whether that will hold in the event of a miltaristic surprise remains to b seen.
I know the RW is betting it will hold.
I have my doubts.
7. There will be even more threats and violence against voters and election officials. After the assassination attempt MAGAs feel emboldened. Plus God told them to.
8. There will be more mail-in voting and therefore more fraud by MAGAs. Because (they tell themselves) a) if Dems do it then so can we, b) to offset all the illegals voting, c) it’s God’s will that Trump wins.
I would insert the word “attempted” before “fraud” in 8. Don’t buy the bs that mail-in voting can be fraudulently manipulated at an outcome-changing scale, without detection. That just isn’t so.
But we know it has been a GOP MO since 2008:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2008/10/20/greene-county-oh-young-republican-lays-out-plan-to-commit-vote-fraud/
Thanks, P-villain.
Vote-by-mail in Oregon
The U.S. state of Oregon established vote-by-mail as the standard mechanism for voting with Ballot Measure 60, a citizen’s initiative, in 1998. The measure made Oregon the first state in the United States to conduct its elections exclusively by mail. The measure passed on November 3, 1998, by a margin of 69.4% to 30.6%. Political scientists say Oregon’s vote by mail system contributes to its highest-in-the-nation rate of voter turnout, at 61.5% of eligible voters. Wikipedia
MW linked to this thread by Josh Marshall about why political reporters are so bad at covering things like Trump’s mental state or the potential for right wing violence, and
https://nitter.privacydev.net/joshtpm/status/1824842922854133990
He makes a valid point that the political press just takes these things as a given, and therefore not worth covering. There are variations on “this isn’t new” or “we know this.”
I agree that’s their attitude, but I’d add that that most don’t actually know what’s going on. They know Project 2025 is out there, they feel like it’s been covered and isn’t news, but if you asked a political reporter what’s actually in it, they’d have almost nothing.
If a right wing mob attacks a liberal target like an abortion clinic or a Gaza protest, political reporters would bungle their stories badly because they have no understanding of any of the details of what’s going on. They’d run to DC-based conservative pundits for leads and framing because their source networks are so thin.
They think they know everything, and then use it as an excuse to understand nothing.
I don’t think they would claim to know everything. The claim would be narrower, but (IMHO) more dangerous: they claim to know better because they are closer to the centres of power, i.e., to the politicians. The logic is deeply flawed, but reporting at the lowest level (repeating what one is told by a source) is their stock in trade. Higher level reporting, pulling things together, such as Marcy does, is a skill few mainstream journalists have had the time to develop, or bothered to develop.
There’s very much the attitude that they know whether or not something matters, and they can fill in any details with someone from their narrow set of sources.
They’ll complain about this critique by saying they talk to lots of people, insiders and outsiders, and technically that’s true. But what happens is those secondary sources are there for the 24th paragraph quotes added for a fake nod toward balance. Or in the most egregious cases, they’ll call up someone like Frank Luntz for the name of a supposedly disillusioned former Democrat, and not bother to find out that they’re actually a GOP activist.
Good god — imagine what it will smell like in that plexiglass booth, with all that cologne and the soiled diaper stench!
Not sure that going all plexiglass “caged beast” is going to provide the turn-around vibe Trump is currently looking for. I also think he’ll hate it.
Summer 2016 was the only summer I witnessed Confederate Flags flying on the back of pick-up trucks around here (while just sitting in my back yard!) State still didn’t go Biden in 2020, yet…
Walz is so authentically Midwest dad/teacher/coach kind of guy that he reminds me of numerous adult men in my small community growing up. I’ve let my imagination run wild about what I’d love to see Walz say to JD at some point in a debate.
“JD, what are you, forty or so? God, you’re still young. Got a long life ahead of you. I gotta tell you, there are many better life choices you could make than to throw your lot in with the rapidly aging head of a criminal organization that the American public is finally getting bored with. You sure you want to be there when it all comes crashing down? Have you counted the number of men surrounding him in the last ten years or so that have been convicted of crimes? Have you ever thought for a moment what it means that his last Vice President doesn’t support the guy? Never considered that? OK, I’ll tell you. The guy you’ve thrown in with would have been thrilled to have seen that Vice President assassinated on January 6, 2021. You sure you want to hang out with that guy, JD? You’re young, JD. There’s still time to get out and choose a better path.”
OK, I probably won zero points and zero fucks here, but that was my imagination running wild.
I firmly believe Walz WOULD be capable of something like that, or even much better. I think his “politician” is secondary to who he is. That makes all the difference.
JD’s fantasy response: “But Tim, I’m not electable. I barely won my Senate seat, and probably couldn’t get reelected after Dobbs and everything I’ve ever said about females. I’ll never have more of a political career on the national stage, much less approach the Presidency, unless it’s on someone else’s coattails. Donald Trump’s selection of me for VP was a godsend, saving me from obscurity, so I’ve grabbed it with both hands and doubled down.”
I actually think this is a really good idea and well done. Chapeau
For a hint of Trump may do, he’s going to Howell, Michigan on Tuesday to supposedly speak about “crime and safety.”
Howell was the home of Grand Dragon of the Klan in Michigan until his death in 1992. The presence of the Klan faded, but the memory lives on in Michigan, and last month it was the site of a white supremacist march with chants of Heil Hitler and “We love Hitler, we love Trump.”
You can bet that the campaign press will simultaneously amplify Trump’s message to extremists and play it down for the general public. He’ll manage to spew out enough code words to encourage the worst, but be just incoherent and rambling enough to lead the national press to write it off as “attacks on Harris for being weak on crime” and if they feel like going out on a limb, referring to “racially suggestive” language.
The political press will run to DC based sources and ask for framing, and of course their GOP confidants will insist it has nothing to do with racism or antisemitism. And since almost every member of the political press has neither background in Michigan nor any curiousity, it will never occur to them that their DC sources are wrong.
BobBobCon – your comment really jumped out at me because the article I cited above (about Musk’s grandfather) notes that his papers are part of Michigan State University’s library’s Radicalism Collection – held only 35 miles from Howell!
I found this interview, from 2017, that makes clear the Howell community would choose to leave that history and image behind.
A linked article in the local press (again from 2017), Death of a Klansman…, notes that he died August 16, 1992.
LOL Howell hasn’t changed.
https://michiganadvance.com/2024/07/24/harris-campaign-civil-rights-group-condemn-white-supremacist-march-in-howell/
Howell and Livingston County sure aren’t where the votes are, not that I expect any of the campaign press to pick up on how weird it is that’s where he’s going instead of a place like Grand Rapids or Macomb County.
He’s appealing to antisemitic racist neonazis, but I can’t imagine outlets have guts to admit it except in the most veiled terms. They may not even be smart enough to understand.
Reply to BobBobCon
August 17, 2024 at 6:17 pm
It’s definitely an appeal to the worst racists — the kkkind which are still comfortable openly flaunting their nastiness in Howell. Why Howell? Because it’s safe for the racists.
Why not Macomb? Because Vance fucking bombed there a week ago in his appearance at Shelby Township PD. The campaign team set up a Potemkin village event for him, little more than a photo op. See the latter half of the video here: https://t.co/yySFJBa0qw (sorry, it’s Ron Filipowski’s feed at the dead bird app).
Why not GR? Because Vance also bombed there, drew a few hundred MAGAts. https://youtu.be/yyCYq1fvhzc?si=D3AYPYKWTZ2RzhNX&t=15
Trump already campaigned near GR this past month as well. Drew a big crowd but it was his first rally after the assassination attempted, held the day before Biden stepped down and endorsed Harris for POTUS. https://apnews.com/article/trump-michigan-grand-rapids-vance-dcc7969cd53e281e32beb72a2c6e0fe8 The post-assassination boost is gone.
There is a similar – but not as symbolic – area in my state. I would never work, live, or send my kid to school there, and the rep campaign held an event there, confirming its stereotype. But if local government and press acknowledges the symbolism and denounces the hate, that’s meaningful to me.
I’m definitely going to be checking out who shows up at Tuesday’s MI event, and if any state campaigns decide to make it an albatross around their necks.
Sorry about the bad threading. You’re right that Vance and Trump are struggling to get their turnout in places where it matters. It’s a sign of their enthusiasm gap, and also the weakness of their organization.
I think it’s also a sign of how bad the political press covers politics that they’re not getting any of this.
Their excuse for not meaningfully covering policy is that their job is the campaign, but they can’t even understand campaign basics. They’re not even supplying plausible cover stories.
Reply to BobBobCon
August 17, 2024 at 8:34 pm
Oh shit. This just set off my hinky meter. From my Mastodon feed:
Emphasis mine. It’s definitely a dog whistle, a very distinctive dog whistle. I’m sick that I recognized it, but I had literally just explained last week that white supremacist groups like the Oath Keepers aren’t a new thing. Their roots go back to the founding of this country, even earlier than the Declaration of Independence. Groups formed shadow government operations during the American Revolution era, morphing over time to vigilance committees of which the KKK was one.
You may read “‘crime and safety’ rally” but that sure looks like Trump summoning Committees of Safety in the Patriot movement. Is this a more subtle call to stand back and stand by?
Really gets under my skin at a personal level because a Committee of Safety planned and executed the overthrow of Hawai’i’s sovereign monarchy.
There certainly seems to be some kind of Call-and-Response going on…
JUNIOR DON et al, Bitcoin and Neo-Nazis coincided in Nashville recently [7/26/24]:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/07/23/fraudulent-failson-judgement-jd-vance-aint-from-here/#comment-1062501 [Scroll down]
Thread by Seth Cotlar [Teaches US History at Willamette Univ.
Working on a book about the long history of the US Right.]:
https://bsky.app/profile/sethcotlar.bsky.social/post/3kzxl2iduhy2i
Aug 17, 2024 at 10:50 PM
I love this article. Thank you, Marcy.
One other factor I believe could move the needle one way or the other is what RFK ends up doing. His motives and endgame are still unclear to me.
Reports and rumors have circulated he’s tried talking to both campaigns to secure an admin position in return for his endorsement. There’s also speculation on whether he may just drop out, especially after NY just prevented him from appearing on ballots.
Polling shows RFK’s support, albeit a small percentage, hurts Trump more than Harris. RFK’s conspiracy thinking and vax stances align more with right wingers. Kamala needs RFK to stay in the race.
It doesn’t seem as though RFK Jr.’s disqualification from the ballot in NY due to his bogus residency claim changes anything in this deep blue state. But there’s talk of other states following suit. I don’t know if there’s time to refile as a candidate with correct residency (CA, apparently), my guess is no.
A new Nicole Shanahan (RFK’s VP) just dropped, where she says they’re considering dropping out and endorsing Trump.
I tried to point the RFK play as an important topic, I e. how he could still be a spoiler.
Oh well. I guess I’m screaming into a void.
Not sure if this is OT or not, but it seems to me that the Democratic ad campaigns have been leaving an extremely useful tool in the toolbox. Republicans have been pounding us over the head with references to the Constitution as if it were a Republican document- as if anyone who disagrees with their interpretation is a traitor. What about the Preamble? Doesn’t it list explicit reasons for why the founding fathers actually wrote down our Constitution?
It includes a few phrases that should be aired and repeated incessantly, such as ‘in order to form a more perfect Union’; ‘insure domestic tranquility’; and ‘promote the general welfare’. Quite a few Republican policies and arguments conveniently ignore these descriptors. Today’s general public needs to be reminded (or made aware) of what the Constitution was originally designed to do.
Cue — in all seriousness — Schoolhouse Rock:
https://youtu.be/8_NzZvdsbWI
(Rayne, apologies if I didn’t edit the link correctly.)
It seems likely that Kamala Harris has a much more savvy and much less contentious support staff than Trump. So, even if Tulsi Gabbard may be helping him with debate prep, I think Trump doesn’t have a crew as creative as Harris has.
Yeah, yeah, he’ll use his standard Gish Gallop technique, but there are ways to train to beat that. I’d suggest that multiple people role play as Trump (instead of just one person) so they can provide the rapid fire nature of the technique by sequentially making accusations or nonsense statements. Then Harris can choose how to respond.
Fortunately, Harris has a sense of humor. So, she might come prepared with some zingers. Some of us still remember how Ronald Reagan used the phrase, “There you go again” to make fun of Jimmy Carter.
Novelty is something audiences relish. It would be fun to see Kamala respond to Trump with some of her own special style like, “You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?!” Or something else we have not yet heard.
I’m looking forward to what she may have for the debate. She’s a natural. She will not disappoint. We all remember just how fly Kamala was during this debate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb7yPlCDwRk
“Fly Lands On Pence’s Head, Temporarily Steals Show of 2020 VP Debate | NBC News”
Harris needs to look right at him and say to his face “You are a twice-impeached adulterer liar fraud virus spreader grifter convicted felon. Either start acting like an adult or get off the stage.” She needs to hit and hit hard.
She can’t ask leading questions. But she put his own words into evidence. And if she occasionally enlarges his statements with their implications, that is fair in politics.
He’s a clever propagandist. VP Harris can’t take anything for granted.
Trump’s debates are performance art, all she has to do is things that will throw his timing off. For instance, when he tries over talking her she can give him the ‘talk to the hand’ gesture while glaring at him.
Yes, you and I would agree on that and it’s something we would like said to him in the open televised forum, but, we are hard anti trumpers, does this strategy get the fence sitters, the so called by John Oliver, the paste eaters?
“There you go again” was a phrase spoken during the second presidential debate of 1980 by Republican presidential candidate Ronald Reagan to his Democratic opponent, incumbent President Jimmy Carter. Reagan would use the line in a few debates over the years, always in a way intended to disarm his opponent”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_you_go_again
If Trump tries that stalking bit that he did with Hillary, I want her to turn around and tell him to get back into his cage.
I want her to call it what it is: intimidation of a woman, a woman of color, and typical of sexual predators. I want her to remind the public this is the choice they must make, between a former law enforcement officer who’s prosecuted abusers and a sexual predator who treats women like fungibles he can grab at will.
I feel the camera angles and lens choices on those perfectly-framed stalking frames were planned in advance, maybe even rehearsed.
Re: bullet shielding – I wonder if the Harris campaign is considering adding this as well.
– If the threat is real enough to add a layer of security to the old guy, it stands to reason that you’d do the same for the VP.
– I understand the optics are important, but that Iranian conspiracy (as just one example) didn’t seem entirely focused on one person.
Political violence in the form of an attack on Harris seems like a non-zero possibility…if something were to happen to her, yes, we have a deep bench, but chaos would ensue.
Both President and Vice President already have the shielding, it takes a military transport to get it on location. I imagine in the future that will be added for both major party candidates.
That favorable/unfavorable graph is nearly illegible without, y’know, explaining which line is which. Nor is the dramatic reversion at the far right particularly reassuring. Just sayin’.
I believe the red line is the unfavorable. It’s dramatic tick down at the far right and tick up in the other line is the shift in favorably towards Harris since she announced.
It was Walter Mondale that laid off Reagan’s obvious age related decline in 1984 and drew Reagan’s repeated there you go again response.
In a kindly way VP Harris should point out what a majority of voters know: Trump is too old to be President. And she could add she has seen what it does to a man.
I wonder whether she should use the “there you go again” line at beginning of everyone of her responses in the debate since no doubt everyone of his responses will be “an again”.
Would that last sentence be a gratuitous slap at Biden?
I could never take the Double Haters sub group seriously, even though they exist. Most that I have encountered in the wild are mostly political ignorant, particularly on issue of policy. Very susceptible to absorbing slogans and sound bites and concluding they are well informed from that.
At the same time most of them seem to desperately eager to be seen as sophisticated and discriminating. And most of all above partisan politics.
So they dismissively hand-wave “both are just politicians — not a dime’s worth of difference between them, really” with a practiced air intended to make you feel like a busy fool if you believe otherwise.
Imagine escorting not-particularly noxious incel to a party with a lot of potential attractive partner interests and they discreetly proclaim to you “none of these here are to my standard,” sincerely not realizing that they aren’t fooling anyone and that they revealed that they think they have no chance with any of them. The Double Haters never realize that they actually look just like that.
My big worry is that we’re kind of due for a serious stock market correction, and September/October are the most likely months for such things to start.
The good news is that the Fed has drug their heels for so long on a rate cut that given the most recent inflation numbers they almost *have* to cut before the election. And even a small cut will probably keep everything from falling before the election.
IMO the tech sector-focused crash August 5th likely shook the yips out of the market. The entire market is now primed for a rate cut this next month especially since inflation is below 3%. Will likely be the only rate cut this year but it should do the trick going into 4Q2024 given consumers’ annual holiday spending.
c’mon Elon, you are wicked smart.
Be more el positivo, just quit the politics, get us to Mars and make us multi planetary. Your contrarian kids would say hey pop, show a little faith and get us air on Mars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7diRYLiYzQ
That’s not what his largest dead bird app investors are paying him to do, though.
According to an analysis I subscribe to, the S&P 500 in an election year always exits October lower.
Thanks for this wakeup call Marcy, I need to read it in detail later because I need to be outside on a rare sunny day.
But I want to say briefly: I missed the Emptywheel Friday yesterday, and so appreciate Nicole Sandler giving an update, I was very worried and am relieved she is getting better !
I am totally hooked on her show and again, very relieved she is okay because I would be sorely sad and miss her very much
Marcy, I agree with you that a lot of the stuff about Trump’s cognitive decline is overdone and overdiagnosed. He’s always spewed word salad and was erratic. But it’s 8 years on–in a part of life when most people slow down physically and mentally. In 2015-16 Trump was agile, energetic and fresh. But now, not only have we heard it all many times, but he’s less able to match his tropes to context and he uses fewer of them with much less agility. It’s like an athlete when it’s time to hang up the cleats, he’s lost one too many steps. Josh Marshall observed that he doesn’t have the joy of the hunt he had in 2016 and he doesn’t have the energy to effectively campaign from behind.
Clearly, MANY things could go wrong, I don’t know the future. But one thing that could happen is Trump and his campaign totally collapsing before November.
Thanks for the great post.
Yes, the October “surprise” will be the long awaited implosion.
My main fear is that MAGA loyalists have obtained posts in several states on election boards and will cause chaos, leading to the matter winding up in the corrupt SCOTUS, anxious to serve their benefactors.
Excellent post, and generally an optimistic one IMO.
While this cycle is indeed one where we must expect the unexpected, from your list of six unpredictable factors, I count at least four, possibly five factors that would work in Harris’ benefit.
RW violence while contemptible, would only remind voters of January 6 and the risks to democracy that Trump poses.
That leaves global war/expanding war in the Middle East as the only major risk factor to the Harris campaign.
I’m looking forward to the coming weeks with eager enthusiasm!
Yeah, I’m a bit confused as to whether these are all supposed to be negatives for Harris, as Marcy implies (to my reading). Some seem more likely to be positives.
I have just read elseweb that the Harris-Walz campaign have put significant resources into their legal team to fight the many lawsuits that are no doubt going to be fought all over the US about voter suppression efforts and certification shenanigans. Amongst the notable inclusions is Marc Elias.
This time around the GOP isn’t hiding their intentions of stealing the election. They’re telegraphing it. Too many of the cult already believe it’s going to be stolen. (They’re sure, for example, that elections in California are crooked, that “illegals” vote in large numbers, and that – this is funny – Donnie can win the state.
https://xcancel.com/marcelteloma/status/1824622518671405433
Re: “and that – this is funny – Donnie can win the state.”
Along the lines of ‘don’t throw me in the briar patch’, by all means Trump should spend campaign funds in CA.
“Harris leads Trump 59% to 34% in the electoral-vote-rich Golden State, a margin 7 points larger than President Biden held earlier this year, before he gave up his bid for reelection late last month, according to the survey by Berkeley’s Institute of Governmental Studies, cosponsored by The Times.”
James Rainey
LATimes
August 14, 2024
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-08-14/poll-harris-and-walz-build-huge-lead-among-likely-california-voters
NYT today:
In JD Vance’s Backyard, Conspiracy Theories About Migrants and Voting Abound A far-right plank on immigration that is rooted in a baseless theory has found purchase among Republicans and right-leaning independents in parts of Ohio. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/18/us/politics/vance-ohio-conspiracy-theory-immigration.html Aug. 18, 2024
In that article, for evidence that “claims about immigrants pose a risk for Republicans,” the reporter quotes… a Republican! Albeit a young one but still, ya can’t make this ridiculous framing up!
All it really shows is that, unsurprisingly, there are a lot of gullible old white people out there.
This is Marc Elias‘ page of articles at his website Democracy Docket:
https://www.democracydocket.com/author/marc_elias/
Most recent:
8/7/24 Georgia Election Deniers Deliver for Trump Trump wants to be able to pick and choose which election results are accepted based solely on the outcome.
8/5/24 Trump Reveals Plan To Subvert Georgia’s Elections Like a washed-up Vegas performer, Trump offered his audience what they came for — his greatest hits of hate, lies and bizarre digressions.
This is probably wacky, but here goes:
I’m a big Allan Lichtman fan. If his algorithm is so predictive of electoral success, and if I were a bad guy, I’d be figuring out which, if any, of his “keys”, that the bad guys might have control over, were vulnerable to turning away from the incumbent, and towards the challenger.
“Civil unrest” is the only key that seems possibly available to turn, with “foreign military failures” probably too hard to get started in time.
Anyone see anything in this?
I’ll see myself out…
Interesting, thanks.
“Key 8 – No Social Unrest: Lichtman notes that only massive unrest, akin to the 1960s or Black Lives Matter protests, could impact this key. The current unrest is not considered significant enough.”
https://politicalpulse.net/us-politics/alan-lichtmans-prediction-for-2024/
Of a piece:
-Marcy’s column:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/08/12/elon-musks-machine-for-political-violence/
-Carole Caldwaller today: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/18/inciting-rioters-in-britain-was-a-test-run-for-elon-musk-just-see-what-he-plans-for-america
Add the humanitarian failure in Occupied Palestinian Territory and Netanyahu’s campaign to pull the U.S. into a broader war.
It looks to me like the usual suspects are funding ‘counter protests’ for the DNC in Chicago.
I’m hoping that the ‘cooler heads’ preparations to be accommodating and alert …will prevail.
“Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson says the city is ready to tackle protests against the DNC”
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/17/nx-s1-5075186/chicago-mayor-brandon-johnson-says-the-city-is-ready-to-tackle-protests-against-the-dnc
What Cadwallader said. If Brexit was proof of concept for 2016 election, the recent white supremacists’ rioting in UK is the same for 2024 election.
I think civil unrest instigated by the right wing is likely.
I am holding my breath this week during the Convention. The parallels to 1968 are a bit frightening: incumbent President declining to run, the incumbent VP about to be nominated, a spirited opposition inside the Convention and outside the Convention and in Chicago. The big difference is the level of enthusiasm for Harris.
I watched the media frenzy over the unrest. “Dan Rather, reporting from the floor, literally, of the Convention…” I take heart that Democrats do seem to learn from history. But all it will take is a few rogue protesters and a few rogue cops to distract from the positive energy.
The bigger difference to my mind is not enthusiasm but the massive scale of the anti-war movement in the 60s expressed at the 1968 convention, Our turbulent times seem more about breaking patterns than repeating them. Whatever unfolds, better to breathe than hold your breath.
I’ve thought for a while that mob violence akin to January 6 around the election (or certification or inauguration) is fairly unlikely this time around. I was surprised by the almost total lack of such around the indictments and trials, etc., of Trump, and concluded that the thousands of arrests and the high-profile convictions post-J6 scared most MAGAs with the prospect of actual consequences – whereas on J6, they were fooled/fooled themselves into believing they were inevitable and invincible.
But right-wing-instigated violence at left-wing protests is a possibility I hadn’t really thought much about.
I realized there’s another factor that Marcy is focused on, and that Lichtman’s algorithm ignores, and was salient in the Bush-Gore contest: Interference with the vote, directly, and|or via the courts, a “side-channel” attack, as it were.
Since many of Trump’s allies and sponsors would benefit, the “foreign military failures” key might be affected by further heating up the Middle-East; more meddling with Ukraine; and more Chinese aggression in the South China sea.
Re China, let’s say China decided to blow up TSMC, figuring we’d be hurt more than them, because we depend more on the latest tech, whereas they still have what domestic production they had before.
The debate will be important. It will be in September and people who are usually disinterested will probably watch. VP Harris has to use her court room demeanor, she has plenty of experience.
I thought Ms. Wheeler would go in a different direction and point out how many things had to go right for the former President in 2016 in order for him to win by an EC miracle.
Maybe VP Harris needs to use more of the closing argument court room demeanor than the legalistic objecting to introduction of evidence or impermissible line of questioning demeanor.
But if she finds an opportunity to challenge Trump ala Reese Witherspoon’s cross-examination of the actual perp in “Legally Blond”, she should take it. “Mr. Trump, isn’t it true that right after you apply bronzer and hair spray, you shouldn’t wash your face?…”.
(Meant to be a reply to Badger Robert. At 9:10am)
Is it possible that a MAGAt Man might become, as a result of the political events of the last couple weeks, angrier and less tolerant? I have a friend, a well off white male, who is just recently showing himself as intolerant and a bully. True, he was always ‘entitled’, and a misogynist, but didn’t act too much on it. Now he is acting it out overtly, telling one person she is absolutely wrong, demanding that she agree with him or shut up. Is he scared of the prospect of a female President?
This morning, Quinta Jurecic wrote:
https://bsky.app/profile/qjurecic.bsky.social/post/3kzykzzh7hk2h
Aug 18, 2024 at 8:22 AM
Then, Cheryl Rofer reposted a response from Sociology Lecturer at Kiel University, Frank Stengel:
https://bsky.app/profile/frankstengel.bsky.social/post/3kzyl7hr3ta2u
Aug 18, 2024 at 8:25 AM
Links to:
The Misogyny of Authoritarians in Contemporary Democracies
Nitasha Kaul // International Studies Review, Volume 23, Issue 4, December 2021
Published: 17 June 2021
From the Introduction [my numbers]:
Harpie, thank you for posting this material on misogyny. I’ll try to read some of it wthout getting too much more upset.
Harpie —
And let’s not forget the adorable Silvio, pancake make-up, hair dye, bunga-bunga and all.
Or Orbán
Revulsion at trump’s smear(s) of military combat heroes ought to be on the list, but it doesn’t appear to impinge on his adherents at all.
It’s true that there aren’t a lot of veterans, but there are a lot of people closely related to veterans, particularly among trump’s geriatric fans.
I can’t make sense of that, but if I were Walz debating Vance I’d demand to know how Vance the Marine can support trump.
It appears they have no problem being called Suckers and Losers?
Obviously the many military personnel at the J6 uprising don’t.
Ipso facto, they were.
With anything they can’t rationalize or excuse, they fall back on “fake news.” It just didn’t happen. When the story first came out, I saw some MAGA commenter say, to paraphrase, “You’d have to be an idiot to believe this because President Trump loves and respects our troops so much.”
Inside the fast-moving launch of Kamala Harris for president https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/18/politics/kamala-harris-presidential-campaign/index.html Edward-Isaac Dovere 6:00 AM EDT, Sun August 18, 2024
Democratic pollsters to HARRIS [paraphrased]:
HARRIS [paraphrased]:
PERFECT.
Perfect, indeed.
She’s learned not to invalidate her own experience.
For what it’s worth:
“The man that Hillary Clinton brought in to replace controversial strategist Mark Penn got his start in politics 32 years ago in Pennsylvania, the very state that is so crucial to her presidential hopes now. Back then, however, Geoff Garin was working for a Republican.”
Karen Tumulty
Time
April 7, 2008
https://time.com/archive/6935962/can-geoff-garin-save-clinton/
huh! Thanks for adding that interesting little bit of history.
Yw.
To be clear for those who may not have clicked through, Harpie quoted Geoff Garin, Democratic pollster…who actually does go waaayyyy back, with mixed results, and not in an OG way.
Do you suppose Jamal Bowman or Cori Bush will be guest speakers at the convention?
If either were to show up and declare that despite what was done to their careers those favoring Palestinian-Gazan causes should not abandon the ticket, it would have weight. Surely there will be a place in a Harris-Walz administration for one doing that.
We’ll see. Somebody has to say that Trump back in the White House will be less favorable to two state hopes than Harris being there. That seems to be the message needed.
Her spontaneous reaction 8/7: [clip]
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5127568/user-clip-kamala-harris-shuts-protester-rally-if-donald-trump-win-speaking
I anticipate that the message of inclusivity/openness to civil discussion has been further honed by now.
Her messages regarding permanent cease fire and Two State Solution are public.
As far as presidential candidates go, the choices are Harris or the man who moved the US embassy to Jerusalem to please the Nutty Yahoo. As important as it is to register our discontent with Israel’s Gaza war, which so far the US is almost unconditionally backing, it would make more sense to me to get Harris elected first, then resume protesting.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2024/08/18/multimedia/18election-live-harris-walz-tzvh/18election-live-harris-walz-tzvh-superJumbo.jpg
Here is a photo [from the NYT] of Harris/Walz and their spouses
embarking on a bus road trip of western Pa…
and they are all wearing
sneakers,
tennis shoes,
gym shoes,
trainers,
running shoes,
runners,
jumpers …
… well, you get the idea!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/dialect-quiz-map.html
Ty!
Chucks.
Madame Vice President has upped her Chuck high tops game for Chuck platforms.
Joy AND style.
Who is Chuck?
Glad you asked!
“Millions of people around the world wear Chuck Taylor’s name on their ankles every day. His signature has appeared on the high-top, canvas All Star sneakers since 1932.
In Harvard Square in Cambridge, Mass., there’s a steady stream of college students, tourists, hipsters … and Chuck Taylors. On a sunny October afternoon, Morgan Goldstein was sporting a multi-colored pair of high tops. The 23-year-old has owned several pairs of All Stars.”
Doug Tribou
WBUR Boston
November 2, 2013
https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2013/11/02/chuck-taylor-biography-converse
OT? Image framing in the press via photos:
Does anyone else think the press seems to be using the most flattering photos of Kamala Harris? I take this a a positive sign. Well, except for Fox, where I saw a harshly lit or touched-up photo? She photographs well, so one has to try to make her look bad.
Some expectations of the convention. No balloon drop. Podesta not there. Bernie not there. The Clintons not there. DWS if a delegate, being only that. Jeffries and Schumer being prominent. Jeffries speaking of how hard its been dealing with House committee leadership change happening via the smallest of majority change. The party must retake the House. Schumer pounding on the need to keep the Senate and to want a filibuster immune majority. All that it might mean. Moving forward, younger speakers. If it were me I’d feature somebody from DoJ talking about an unprecedented need for a nationwide emphasis on the Rule of Law, And how the nation must demand accountability for actions with nobody above the law. And how it is an international embarrassment to have a top court without an ethics code, how that must be fixed. Pelosi, Hoyer and Clyburn each being older than Trump meaning they sit out. Show time starts tomorrow.
Harris was an AG, she doesn’t need anyone from DoJ to deliver credible claims to a focus on rule of law. Rare is the time when the Democrats have a shot at credibly taking that platform, but then rare is the occasion a career prosecutor squares off against someone indicted for multiple felonies.
I do anticipate at least one speaker early in the convention picked in hopes of taking the wind out of the presumed protests that will be occurring. Pelosi’s abandonment of the “speed primary” stance was massive in solidifying Harris’s quick success, and I would guess that will be rewarded with a slot despite your likely-correct thoughts about Schumer hitting the “quota” on folks in their sunset years.
Pelosi on Wednesday
Schedule of Speakers:
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/18/dnc-speaker-schedule-obama-biden
Good points all.
And having ‘someone from the DoJ’ is a terrible idea, and (without looking it up) almost certainly in breach of DoJ guidelines for any serving member of the DoJ to do, as well as the Hatch Act.
Re: “The Clintons not there”
Is that a breaking news update?
As of this morning, both Clintons are still on the schedule.
Re: “Somebody from DOJ”
I’m fairly certain that would be a Hatch Act violation.
Snap
I somehow missed that Reps Alexandra Ocasio Cortez, Jamie Raskin, and Jasmine Crockett are speaking today.
All three are members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC).
What Californians should watch for in the DNC lineup
Sarah Libby
S.F. Chronicle
August 19, 2024
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/democratic-national-convention-speakers-19664493.php
Spoiler Alert if you plan to read the article:
It looks to me like a pragmatic and loyal choice that Governor Newsom is not on the speaker list of today.
For some reason, people have strong opinions about him, either way, and this gives nothing to the MAGA party seeking another opportunity to yell the unimaginative, faux insult, “California librul!”.
This hour’s DNC speaker announcement update:
Governor Newsom scheduled to speak Tuesday night.
I’ll enjoy it, and there will be trolls.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
…and Senator Sanders will speak tomorrow, @ 8.30pm CT.
Sorry to burst your bubble but there’s going to be a balloon drop.
Savage Lib – TY for schedule link. It looks pretty vanilla. I like the Axios note about Jimmy Carter hoping to stay alive long enough to vote for Harris. I hope the same for Carter and for myself. Nice if we both make it past that. For myself, early voting. In case.
Don’t know where you live, but if it’s Michigan, then please hang in there until Nov 6. Vic a voter casts their ballot early but then dies before Election Day, the vote is not counted. https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/30lawens/Deceased_Voters_Fact_Check.pdf
I hope that link works.
Great article, and good summary of possible bumps in the winding road still left until election. Also, some excellent points in the comments. Though I am much more optimistic than a month ago, complacency would be a mistake. Look where it got us in 2016.
Of the items enumerated, the ones I lose the most sleep over are divisions in the Democratic party due to Gaza policy, and potential ratfuckery–especially election officials who will refuse to certify a Democratic victory regardless of the tally.
I agree that Trump’s alleged cognitive decline is overblown. Just as Biden was always a gaffe machine (and his decline is mostly physical though, unfortunately, it fed the narrative of mental) Trump has always been prone to rambling in disjointed sentences, with a limited vocabulary and limited repertory of phrases. It may finally be getting more media attention, though, now that “Biden is old” is old news.
The difference between the two old men is that while Biden mostly overcame a stutter, and found he had a lot to contribute to the political discourse over his half century of service (whether or not one always agreed with his ideas), Trump has always come off as someone with limited intellectual capacity, which he projects on others by calling them “low IQ”. I would love to see his score against anyone he has called “low IQ”, but of course he would never allow that to happen.
Trump literally threatened to sue his schools if they release his grades, lol.
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Trump’s decline may be overstated, but I’ve seen analyses by experts quantifying a major decline in Trump’s vocabulary and sentence structure and such measures since his younger days. There are various possible explanations for that, of course. But the speculations about creeping dementia are far from unevidenced.