Putin Has Convinced Trump He’s Keeping Trump’s Weakness Secret
“He gets played by them, because he thinks that they’re his friends and they are manipulating him full time … with flattery.” Kamala Harris
Here’s how WSJ described the Bob Woodward scoop that Donald Trump sent COVID testing equipment to Vladimir Putin rather than to Americans in need.
Woodward reports that one former intelligence analyst specializing in Russian affairs believed that Trump idolized Putin, making him open to manipulation. During the outbreak of Covid-19 in Russia, Trump secretly sent Putin some Abbott Point of Care Covid test machines for Putin’s personal use.
Putin then asked Trump never to mention it to anyone else, Woodward reports. “I don’t care,” Trump replied. “Fine.”
“No, no,” Putin said. “I don’t want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me. They don’t care about me.”
In this telling, there’s an intelligence analyst involved, someone who could be Woodward’s source.
It’s not just that Trump secretly sent Putin medical equipment that Americans needed. It’s that, presumably knowing full well the Intelligence Community would learn of that gift, Putin told Trump to keep it secret. “I don’t care,” Trump claimed. But he kept his KGB handler’s secret anyway.
He’s still trying to keep it secret.
You don’t need an intelligence analyst to tell the story of how easy it is for Vladimir Putin to manipulate Donald Trump. After all, HR McMaster documented Trump’s subjugation to Putin at length.
I was the principal voice telling him that Putin was using him and other politicians in both parties in an effort to shake Americans’ confidence in our democratic principles, institutions and processes. Putin was not and would never be Trump’s friend. I felt it was my duty to point this out.
[snip]
Trump wanted to call Putin to congratulate him on being elected to a fourth term as president of Russia. I explained that Putin’s victory had been rigged, thanks to the Kremlin’s control over the media, its quelling of the opposition, the disqualification of popular opposition candidates such as Alexei Navalny, and restrictions on election monitors.
A call was arranged anyway. The day before it, I told Trump I knew he was going to congratulate Putin, but that he should know that “the Kremlin will use the call in three ways: to say that America endorsed his rigged election victory, to deflect growing pressure over the Salisbury nerve agent attack and to perpetuate the narrative that you are somehow compromised.” I then asked Trump the following: “As Russia tries to delegitimize our legitimate elections, why would you help him legitimize his illegitimate election?”
But at this stage in our relationship, my advice on Putin and Russia had become pro forma. I knew that Trump would congratulate Putin and go soft on Salisbury. Trump took the early morning call from the residence. Because I had briefed him the day before, I listened in from my office. As expected, he congratulated Putin up front. After the call, Trump asked me, as he had before, to invite Putin to the White House.
On Face the Nation, McMaster described that he included all this in his book to try to demonstrate to Trump (or at least his hypothetical handlers in a second term) how successfully Putin was manipulating him.
MARGARET BRENNAN: When you got home, you said to your wife, “After [over] a year in this job, I cannot understand Putin’s hold on Trump.” How do you explain that now?
LT. GENERAL H.R. MCMASTER: Well, I explained it in the book. I try to place the president’s belief that he could have a good deal with Vladimir Putin in context of the two previous presidents who thought that they could have a good deal with- with Putin. But also, you know, President Trump, and people know this, he- he likes big splashy deals. He liked- he was pursuing that with Putin. He was pursuing that with Xi Jinping. And of course, Putin is the best liar in the world. And so I struggled, Margaret, should I write about how Putin tried to manipulate President Trump, or not? And I thought, well, Putin knows how he was trying to do it. So maybe in writing about how Putin was trying to press Donald Trump’s buttons, that will make a future President Trump, if he’s elected, less susceptible to those kind of tactics.
There’s been a lot of discussion about whether the intelligence community knows what a simp for Putin Trump is, knows about his ongoing calls with Putin.
The mention of the analyst at least suggests that the IC learned about the COVID testing equipment in real time, which is not surprising given that the equipment would have to be shipped somehow. Importantly, Trump’s KGB handler Vladimir Putin surely knew that it would be discovered. I’m sure the COVID testing kits were nice for Putin to have. The fact that Putin got Trump to prioritize Putin’s health over Americans, the fact that by keeping this secret, Putin ratcheted up the hold he had on Trump were probably far bigger gifts.
And that’s why I think Putin’s instructions to keep this secret are as important as the fact that Trump made efforts to care for Putin’s health as he neglected hundreds of thousands of Americans. It’s the control over all this information that Trump keeps ceding to Putin. As Asha Rangappa noted, Trump just keeps handing Putin ways to control him, willingly.
And now Putin is picking and choosing which of the secrets he has with Donald Trump he’ll make public. Oh sure, he sent me medical equipment at a time when Americans were struggling, Putin is effectively saying. But phone calls?!?! The seven phone calls that are bloody obvious from his claims about speaking to me about my dreams? Nyet! No phone calls, they didn’t happen!!
These tailored denials, hilariously, come from Dmitry Peskov, the guy whose call Trump and Michael Cohen criminally conspired to hide, the likely source for the false claim that appeared in the Steele dossier that the call to the Kremlin Cohen and Trump were hiding was not about real estate in January 2016, but was instead about cheating in an election in October 2016.
That is, I’ve long argued, one of the ways Putin has been wildly successful: not just getting Trump to simper to him like a teenager with a crush, but also to use Trump’s paranoia to heighten conflict in the United States over Trump’s ties to Russia.
Indeed, while Trump would have been preferable for Russia based on policy stances alone, Russia would prefer a weak Trump they could manipulate over a strong Trump any day. By the time of the 2016 operation, Vladimir Putin had already exhibited a willingness to take huge risks to pursue Russian resurgence. Given that audacity, Trump was more useful to Putin not as an equal partner with whom he could negotiate, but as a venal incompetent who could be pushed to dismantle the American security apparatus by playing on his sense of victimhood. Putin likely believed Russia benefitted whether a President Trump voluntarily agreed to Russia’s policy goals or whether Putin took them by immobilizing the US with chaos, and the dossier protected parts of the ongoing Russian operation while making Trump easier to manipulate.
Just as one example, Vladimir Putin knew the FBI was getting recordings of Sergey Kislyak’s calls with Mike Flynn — there’s even a moment when Kislyak’s assistant performs for the wiretap back on December 29, 2016. Putin knew that when he didn’t respond to Obama’s sanctions, the spooks would find those calls, leading to all manner of disruption for the US.
And that created a cascade of ongoing benefits for Putin, as Trump keeps denying Russia Russia Russia that he needed Russia’s help to win, and so keeps doubling and tripling down on his denials, even as he makes his capitulation to Putin readily apparent.
Russia’s 2016 intelligence operation and its aftermath may be the most successful intelligence operation in recent history, because Vladimir Putin has gotten Trump to believe that his KGB handler is hiding the proof he’s got of how weak Trump is, and Trump is desperate, to the core of his being, to pretend that his weakness is not obvious to all.
Update: Going to reup what I wrote just weeks after Helsinki.
Trump and the Russians were engaged in a call-and-response, a call-and-response that appears in the Papadopoulos plea and (as Lawfare notes) the GRU indictment, one that ultimately did deal dirt and got at least efforts to undermine US sanctions (to say nothing of the Syria effort that Trump was implementing less than 14 hours after polls closed, an effort that has been a key part of both Jared Kushner and Mike Flynn’s claims about the Russian interactions).
At each stage of this romance with Russia, Russia got a Trump flunkie (first, Papadopoulos) or Trump himself to publicly engage in the call-and-response. All of that led up to the point where, on July 16, 2018, after Rod Rosenstein loaded Trump up with a carefully crafted indictment showing Putin that Mueller knew certain things that Trump wouldn’t fully understand, Trump came out of a meeting with Putin looking like he had been thoroughly owned and stood before the entire world and spoke from Putin’s script in defiance of what the US intelligence community has said.
People are looking in the entirely wrong place for the kompromat that Putin has on Trump, and missing all the evidence of it right in front of their faces.
Vladimir Putin obtained receipts at each stage of this romance of Trump’s willing engagement in a conspiracy with Russians for help getting elected. Putin knows what each of those receipts mean.
“Russia’s 2016 intelligence operation and its aftermath may be the most successful intelligence operation in recent history, because Vladimir Putin has gotten Trump to believe that his KGB handler is hiding the proof he’s got of how weak Trump is, and Trump is desperate, to the core of his being, to pretend that his weakness is not obvious to all.”
Thanks for the analysis, Marcy, but I’m not entirely sure I’m grasping this.
If Putin/Russia want Trump to win, what’s the motivation for throwing him under the bus?
Putin’s plan is to help Trump to win and THEN throw him under the bus.
It’s not that they necessarily want Trump to win, but they want to use Trump to completely screw up the political and social culture of the US. If Trump wins, they can do that from inside the government; if he loses, they can do it from outside.
Either way, Putin/Russia wins.
The motivation you wonder about is simple: Putin is reminding Trump that he is owned. Not Trump’s debts, not Trump’s properties, but Trump’s very soul. And Trump would do *anything* to not have the reality of his weaknesses revealed. Says Putin to Trump “I would like you to do me a favor, though.”
“And Trump would do *anything* to not have the reality of his weaknesses revealed.” The sad reality trump’s weaknesses have been revealed, by Marcy and other information, but his followers ignore it, still believe he is a wise tough guy, but are still going to hand the keys of the White House to Pukin if they can.
Trump is Putin’s useful idiot.
It is always a question for Putin how best to strategically exploit his idiocy, including exploiting his inevitable demise as a tool.
They haven’t, yet, but by reminding him their leverage grows. When he loses, then they burn him, but, again, probably partially so as to leave enough doubt to inflame further partisan tensions. Their goal is weaken us, like a picador setting picks in a bull’s hump until he is staggeringly easy prey.
“And that’s why I think Putin’s instructions to keep this secret are as important…”
That, and as a basis for future blackmailing.
Trump was unique, even among presidents who underestimated Putin. For decades,
Putin’s pals had sent Trum0 org piles of cash, ostensibly for real estate, whenever he cried.
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It’s like a cat playing with a mouse. It allows the mouse to scurry away just a bit before pouncing, not to kill, but to play some more.
Arguably the hook was set much earlier, money the story, Russians in New York, buying into Trump Tower, a link with a great opening image: https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate — a story from 2017, but looking back to before Trump being a candidate. Money. Need.
On the earlier post (“As Russia Overtly Helps Trump Get Elected . . .”), when folks wondered about whether the Intelligence Community knew about Trump’s phone calls with Putin, I made clear that I think they did, and that Putin wanted them to hear:
Putin has been successfully manipulating Trump for years, to his own benefit, so why stop after Trump left office?
1) From the McMaster quote above in the post, McMaster asking Trump: “As Russia tries to delegitimize our legitimate elections, why would you help him legitimize his illegitimate election?” — I think that question was put way too sophisticated for Trump to even think about.
2) As to Putin’s selective confirmation (yes to the Covid tests sent, “nyet” to the phone calls): How did Trump learn that Putin would like the tests? I doubt there was any different way of communication.
3) Seth Meyers has a nice 10-minute monologue “Trump Secretly Sent Putin Rare COVID Tests in 2020 According to Bombshell New Book: A Closer Look,” available on YouTube.
Isn’t Putin asking TFG to keep it silent also to preserve the blackmail aspect? That Putin could reveal the gift in a time, place, and manner of Putin’s choosing for maximum damage against TFG?
or was TFG so hopelessly compromised that it would make no difference by that point?
I think the agreement to keep it silent *is* the blackmail aspect here. Trump’s most effective method of insulating his outrageous conduct against real media scrutiny long has been doing it in the open and rubbing it in reporters’ faces.
“If there’s no coverup, there’s no scandal,” has been one of the underlying themes for reporters covering Trump since forever.
I should add that I think that’s a theme that has been discussed a *lot* on this blog.
“ It’s not just that Trump secretly sent Putin medical equipment that Americans needed. It’s that, presumably knowing full well the Intelligence Community would learn of that gift, Putin told Trump to keep it secret. “I don’t care,” Trump claimed. But he kept his KGB handler’s secret anyway.”
While I don’t doubt for one moment that the Intelligence Community would have immediately known about the gift, it was not one which would have been a complicated shipping problem, depending of course how many machines were included in the gift.
Each of the Abbot point of Care machines in the period shortly after their first production and USA authorisation March 27 2020 are described
“ The ID NOW platform is small, lightweight (6.6 pounds) and portable (the size of a small toaster), and uses molecular technology, which is valued by clinicians and the scientific community for its high degree of accuracy. ID NOW is already the most widely available molecular point-of-care testing platform in the U.S. today.”
https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-03-27-Abbott-Launches-Molecular-Point-of-Care-Test-to-Detect-Novel-Coronavirus-in-as-Little-as-Five-Minutes
And there’s enough information here:
https://www.fda.gov/media/136525/download
For the Russians to reverse engineer the reagents etc to continue to perform tests after the kits supplied with the machines had run out.
So a box of 6 dropped off at the Russian embassy with chocolates and flowers for Vlad on March 27 2020 could have been diplomatic bagged to Moscow in time for the covid shut down which commenced March 28 2020.
Knowing what’s now even public, in my opinion,
NO patriotic member of the IC can vote for this lick spittle.
Resentment, hatred, and vindictiveness are powerful forces.
Not to mention the powerful manipulating their subjects.
Reason, truth, rationality are fighting.
If we fight, we win!
One thing we have going for US now, is that the Biden/Harris administration is in charge!
Even though Biden was not up to par at the debate in June, one moment stuck out to me.
Here’s Aaron Rupar with a clip of TRUMP’s “his [Putin’s] dream” from the debate:
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1806501254031429917
9:33 PM · Jun 27, 2024
Transcript:
Check out the intensity with which of Biden looks at TRUMP at [0:11].
There is a similar moment in HARRIS’ debate with the lick spittle.
[I’ve been so disorganized lately, but will find it]
3/8/24 TRUMP meets with ORBAN at Mara-Lago [also FM, Péter SZIJJZRTO]
[…]
6/27/24 BIDEN TRUMP debate
7/2/24 NYT Orban, Russian Friend Angling for E.U. Influence, Visits Ukraine Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary, who has resisted European military and financial aid for Ukraine, met with President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv.
7/5/24 NYT: Viktor Orban Meets Vladimir Putin, Dismaying E.U. Days after a trip to Ukraine, the Hungarian leader arrived in Moscow for a visit, but E.U. officials made clear that he was not there on behalf of the bloc.
7/7/24 NYT: Viktor Orban, Hungary’s Leader, Surprises Europe Again With Visit to China Mr. Orban said his meeting with President Xi Jinping was part of a “peace mission” for Ukraine. But both leaders want to offset Western power.
Here’s the imo “similar moment” in the HARRIS / TRUMP debate:
9/10/24 HARRIS / TRUMP debate
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1833690172484980944
10:13 PM · Sep 10, 2024
TRANSCRIPT:
“And, in fact, when I saw Putin, after I left, unfortunately left, because our our country has gone to hell, but aft..”
The narcissistic Idiot can’t help himself.
Despite a track record of failure as long as the chain that Jacob Marley’s ghost drags around for eternity – including six bankruptcies, multiple business failures, the convictions of his company and CFO for tax fraud, and his own fraud convictions – Donald Trump still portrays himself as the world’s best negotiator. No wonder he’s such an easy mark with dictators who could eat him for lunch.
Call and response — that. I couldn’t think of the term I wanted when I wrote about Trump with regard to Afghanistan and the possibility he was trying to obscure what Olivia Troye and H.R. McMaster had to say about Trump as Commander-in-Chief.
What McMaster had been asked to do was part of a call-and-response: Trump saw something positive Putin said about him, he was compelled to respond.
McMaster refused to pass on the response, but I wondered when I wrote about this whether there had been more exchanges like this using others to ferry messages.
Was McMaster being tested by this call-and-response if Trump was already a proven entity? Who else was tested by the call-and-response approach? I think eventually we need to know more about the possibility there were more than phone calls exchanged with Putin, and who else was compromised in the process.
I hope this all gets aired out in order to eliminate leverage and prevent anyone else caught up and compromised in Putin’s net from ever being put in a compromising situation in the White House.
Re: possibility there were more than phone calls exchanged with Putin
I forgot to emphasize [just above] that during the debate with Harris,
TRUMP said: “ when I saw Putin, after I left“
Could that be a reference to a video call of some sort, rather than a face to face meeting?
Given Trump’s attachment to the truth, it would be like him to make up a scenario like a phone call, if it created a stronger impression in his favor. When it comes to Vlad, though, I tend to think his lies stick closer to the truth. He wouldn’t want an easily disprovable lie to cause him to miss out on a biscuit or pat behind the ear from Vlad.
And imagining the substance of the first post Presidential call from Putin:
We hear you’re leaving, that’s okay
I thought our little wild time had just begun
I guess you kind of scared yourself, but turn, re-run
Don’t you have a change of heart
Donnie don’t lose my number
You don’t want to call nobody else
Send it off in a letter to yourself
Donnie don’t lose that number
It’s the only one you own
You might use it and you’ll feel better
When you get home
Very nice!
Learn to work the cloud machine
Trump’ll hit any coast that appeals
With Hurricane Milton all night long (too soon?)
Voters die, to Trump it’s no big deal
They got a name for the winners in the world
And I want to see Trump lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Trump’s under Putin’s shoes
And (according to Andrew Leyden) after the Biden debate on 6/27, Trump’s plane was parked next to a Russian plane at Dulles on June 28. A plane from UAE was also there.
Even his self incriminating statements could be lying, incompetent use of language or delusional.
McMaster’s learning curve would have to be negative, if he thought exposing a truth about Trump would lead him to change his ways. He never admits errors. He doubles and triples down on them. He doesn’t trade in facts or the truth. He trades in a cancerous version of what Nixon and Kissinger called the expedient lie.
Regarding call and response, Clarence Thomas / Aileen Cannon ??
Trump is rather large, isn’t he, to be a lap dog? But then, Putin likes large, menacing dogs. remember that scene with Angela Merkel (who is terrified at dogs) at the Kremlin with the very large German Shepherd dog? Or Hillary Clinton? Who also is uncomfortable around dogs.
Just looking at the dynamic between the two at Helsinki told me everything I suspected when he had the meeting at the White House with Soviet(oops, Freudian slip)officials and no American witnesses or translators.
Trump may not be committing treason according to the official definition, but he certainly fits the description of a traitor.
Yes.
But also, simply put, he’s mentally unwell.
Except, it isn’t quite that simple, as he’s astute enough to understand what actions/words can incite violence on his behalf.
That said, I think it’s going to be OK.
I believe Harris will win, with or without (probably with some) violence initiated by him or Vance or Elon.
In my mind at least, there is no fucking way with all the
1 furious women
2 Republicans for Haley but now for Harris
3 first time voters
4 Trump-skewed Covid dead
5 I could go on with more examples
that this mentally unwell man resumes power.
I’ll save my despair only for if it does come to pass.
I was very worried in 2016, less so in 2020, still less so this year.
I’m betting women north of 60% this round:
2008 Obama women 56%
2012 Obama women 55%
2016 Clinton women 54%
2020 Biden women 57%
Stay positive, folks!!!
Thanks to all for this site.
Peace.
Not to be paranoid, but is it possible that Woodward’s source is Russian? Would Putin want this information released now to keep the pressure on Trump? (Along the lines of: “Remember what else we could release.”) Or given that Putin would prefer Trump in the White House, would there be too much risk of this information hurting Trump’s electoral chances for Russia to take this step?
Nope.
The Woodward is a snail. Slow moving.
As is the Putin
Speaking of Vlad investing in Donald Trump, his DJT stock price is up about $10/share over the last 10-12 days, from just over $13 to over $23.
Very likely a “buy” from Russia to show their support for Trump and their power to help him.
There are few things I enjoy more than trawling the reddit subs dedicated to right-wing pump and dump tickers. For months, years even, after people fomo’d in and lost 90% of their money, they are still just as delusional that they are going to become millionaires from it and rub it in the faces of their doubting families.
OT [for the Michiganders here] [This is part of a live-blog so you can follow along]:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/10/10/us/harris-trump-election/3ba3d37a-15c4-5079-837f-08fb303ab005 Oct. 10, 2024, 1:49 p.m. ET
Interesting how much effort Team Trump is sinking into that town; Vance was in Detroit Tuesday, replete with fake autoworkers in his meager audience.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/fake-auto-workers-for-trump-flocked-to-detroit-rally-report-says
That VF piece does a nice job using links to flesh out the report. Still laughing about the scrawny numbers Vance drew a stone’s throw from his own state of Ohio.
Also laugh-worthy are Vance’s remarks about federal money for the auto industry and offshoring. Does he know Trump doesn’t like EVs? Does he know the GOP did a lot to ensure offshoring over decades, including their own offering of chicken feed for EV research in the early 2000s? The dude constantly steps on rakes.
You’d think an Ohio guy, even one known for sticking his whole-ass foot in his mouth, would know better than to schedule events in Detroit when Cleveland comes to town to play the Tigers.
Very nice to see the first playoff win in Detroit in 11 years for the Tigers yesterday!
Putin on the QT
You’ll never know
how much I am above you
You’ll never know
how much I really share
Listen
Do you want to know Trump’s secrets?
Yes, his comms are now his tell
Whoa, oh, oh
Closer
It’s much crisper than you hear
Weigh the words that now appear
I’ll discuss with you
Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh ooh
I’ve known his secrets a decade too
We all know, yes we do
Ooh-ooh-ooh ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh-ooh ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh-ooh ooh-ooh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHK2B-gY1QU
“Do You Want To Know A Secret – The Beatles – Synthesia Video”
Not bad, for not being by Becker and Fagen. ;)
To Just Some Guy:
BOOM! pause, BOOM! BOOM! That’s what woke me up from a weird dream at 4AM this morning. A transformer blew in front of my neighbor’s house. And we were just on the outer perimeter of Milton. It’s been nerve racking here in Florida this fall no matter where you are.
But it was repaired by 8:30 AM. Thank Goddess that Donna Deegan was elected as our Mayor. She’s doing a wonderful job. Hope she runs for higher office.
Thanks for all your interesting comments, Just Some Guy. And for the uninteresting ones too ;-)
That is undoubtedly frightening. I’m glad you are okay.
My amateur theory is that Putin understands that no one will care about covid soon and he is letting Trump know he can reveal other matters any time of his choosing. Trump miscalculated thinking Putin would back him on his lie.
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EW, at one point you use the phrase COVID testing kit. Putin got machines–not kits. The so-called “Kits” came later. I believe this phraseology of “kit” is used by the media to make it seem that Putin got a 3 x5″ sized box in the mail. Those came around after Putin got his machine.
I’m interested in the timeline of Putin receiving COVID testing equipment from Trump.
No doubt a well fleshed-out timeline would be very visceral to all who went through that time.
And it seems like the means of delivery is very much an open question.
Look, Trump is a blowhard, in the USA, not unlike Orban, in the EU. Neither Trump or an Orban can ultimately change it all in the end – but they are agents, puppets of chaos supported by Russian and other states to facilitate that populuation, and now Americans themselves to do it.
Puppets- and that’s a rather low order on the world stage. The goal.
CNN is reporting the Kremlin has confirmed receipt of the COVID test kits. I thought, at first, how odd it was for Putin to identify Trump as a liar. Now I think Vlad is sending a message: “Don’t screw with me. I’ve got you right where I want you”.