The Fascist Dragnet To Avenge Charlie Kirk’s Honor
Congratulations to the memory of Charlie Kirk. Trump has, in his death, affirmed that Kirk is the same kind of person as his idol, inflammatory bigot Rush Limbaugh, whom Trump also awarded the Medal of Freedom.
To pay tribute to the event, the State Department yesterday announced another assault on free speech, identifying six purported visa holders who — it claims, but the underlying logic is worthy of conspiracy theorist Darren Beattie, currently the State Department head of Public Diplomacy — “celebrated the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk.”
At least two of the six did not celebrate Kirk’s death (these are in reverse order).
One, described as Paraguayan, merely said Kirk was a son of a bitch and he died by his own rules.
This is likely a reference to Kirk’s comment that it was worth having some gun deaths every year, like his own, so “we” can have a Second Amendment.
I think it’s worth it. I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.
The other post that, in my opinion, did not “celebrate” Kirk’s killing is this one, which per Google translate reads, “When fascists die, democrats don’t complain” (or perhaps don’t wail).
Stating that you’re not wailing is different than celebrating.
But the tweet is notable for something else: It doesn’t even mention Charlie Kirk. It’s a subtweet.
So how did Trump find it to attack it? One explanation may be this Facebook post, also in German, which does mention Kirk. It translates this way:
“When fascists die, democrats don’t complain.”
This disgusting quote from ZDF screenwriter and publicist Mario Sixtus, published just hours after the assassination attempt on Charlie Kirk, marks a moral low point.
Anyone who speaks like this exposes themselves: not as a democrat, but as a cynic who tramples on the foundations of our free order. Those who celebrate the death of a political opponent aren’t demonstrating their stance, but rather confirming that they, in truth, have no respect for democracy—because democracy thrives on words, on debate, on the clash of arguments, not on hatred of human life.
Yes, Charlie Kirk held radical positions; yes, he was contentious and uncomfortable. But he sought debate. And as long as debate, speech, and discourse are possible, there is a civilized, legitimate framework. Violence, malice over death, and dehumanization are not part of it.
Therefore, I say clearly: Anyone who rejoices over the death of a person disqualifies themselves as a democrat. Anyone who claims to fight against inhumanity while acting inhumanely themselves is a hypocrite.
This case demonstrates once again how deep the cracks in our society are – and how great the danger is that the self-proclaimed “moral elite” has in fact lost all moral sense.
That is, it’s not that the original poster, IDed here as a German screenwriter, celebrated Kirk’s death. It’s that someone else accused him of doing so (all while ignoring the way Kirk himself dehumanizes people).
Still, how did they find it?!?
Consider what it means that the State Department is proudly IDing claimed visa holders whose speech about Charlie Kirk it condemns. We know how State conducted its prior assault on free speech, that of supporters of Palestinians, in at least some cases a doxing hate group called Canary. Judge William Young described it this way:
AD Hatch was told by DHS leadership (Hatch could not recall who) to review the names of student protestors on the Canary Mission website, which contains a database of over 5,000 individuals. Id., 109-111. Canary Mission’s website purports to “document[] individuals and organizations that promote hatred of the USA, Israel and Jews on North American college campuses and beyond.” See “Our Mission”, Canary Mission, Ex. 229.14 Prior to March 2025, AD Hatch was unaware of the Canary Mission website. Id. 112:18-22.
Within about a week of the early March meeting, a so-called “Tiger Team” was assembled to expedite the preparation of ROAs. Id. 98:8-25–99:3. Hatch confirmed that the Tiger Team’s process was that: (1) the Office of Intelligence would fact find; (2) the National Security Division of Homeland Security Investigations would compile the information and provide it to the State Department; and (3) the State Department would decide on what action to take, if any. Id. 98:20-99:3. The use of the term “Tiger Team” is not pejorative. It is a common internal practice referring to the speed and intensity of the work to be completed. The phrase was not intended to intimidate or, indeed, to be publicly known. Trial Tr. vol. II, 95:17–97:8, Jul. 10, 2025.
But it’s one thing to find Palestinian supporters targeted by a hate group. It’s another thing to find people with an opinion about Charlie Kirk, because one’s opinion about Charlie Kirk has no conceivable tie to national security or even foreign policy.
And to get to this list of four people who celebrated Kirk’s death and two who did not, State would have had to run their own databases against a list that included a whole bunch of Americans who also don’t care for Charlie Kirk either. The original list almost certainly consisted primarily of Americans who would have been affected by Kirk’s hatred and doxing.
That State is doing this in any case is obnoxious and illegal. That they’re doing it with such shoddy vetting that they’re batting 66% accuracy with a selection of just six statements is both offensive and pathetic.
But to have accomplished this hunt would have taken the kind of database scan that fascists dream of, one cataloging the free speech of Americans.







And why is State trawling through social media for targets, when that is not at all their job? (Nor is it the job of DHS, or any other part of government, without warrants from a court, signed by a judge. See the 1st and 4th Amendments.)
Trump made it Rubio’s job to order the State Department to do this kind of trawling for targets. And as far as Trump is concerned, he alone is the Constitution of the United States now.
The Marco Rubio born to two people who immigrated to the US from Castro’s Communist Cuba?
Not quite. Rubio’s parents left Batista’s Cuba, in 1956, prior to Castro’s takeover three years later. Further, they did not naturalize until 1975, four years after Rubio was born. So he’s a 14th Amendment baby, like my father was in 1921.
When folks apply for American visas, there is a section of the multipage application for the applicant to list their social media accounts. It’s part of the screening process.
“And why is State trawling through [IRS records] for targets?”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-irs-democrats-george-soros-political-donations-b2846575.html
Several years ago I became an Irish citizen. I did it as a lark with other family members. I still have my U.S. citizenship.
Maybe I’m going to need that Irish citizenship.
It’s not the trump regime scouring social media {that’s not picturesque]. It is the social network of snitches. There’s a administration slush fund somewhere giving out payments, or Mar-a-Lago invites, etc., to MAGA informants. One more similarity to Nazis, Duterte, & any other dictatorial regime.
As Childish Gambino said, “we all Big Brother now.”
Perhaps you are right, but I suspect that some of Trump’s cult are HONORED to snitch for free.
(Don’t pay people you don’t have to pay. You can use the money you save to pay for billionaire tax breaks!)
There are plenty of vigilantes butt-hurt that not everyone is rolling on the ground rending their garments in grief over Kirk. Last Sunday’s New York Times has a front page article about one from Texas hill country who has taken it upon himself to go around doxxing and getting people fired because his godly “peacemaking” self is offended, and this is now a “civil war.” The story includes the parallel story of a young woman who *was* an EMT and firefighter in a town in the same area, but got fired for posting “Good riddance. Thoughts and prayers to the other guy.” to her private Facebook page.
Yes, I think there are plenty of officious little helpers who are happy to do the regime’s dirty work for free.
Thanks for sharing—I believe that EMT was award-winning and teaching others because she was so good at her job, from that well-researched NYT report.
“Free speech for me, not for thee”—a hallmark of authoritarians.
“officious little helpers who are happy to do the regime’s dirty work for free” — nicely captures the vibe.
I recall hearing the phrase “thousands of little Eichmanns” from Ward Churchill during the fallout over his comments responding to 9/11. I think I’m finally old enough to fully appreciate how apt that phrase is. Social media has allowed so many of our fellow citizens to raise their hands and say, “Me! I’m one of the thousands of little Eichmanns!”
Batting .666.. is quite good for the Trump administration. And possibly their target mark.
Doxing, canceling visas, and firing people for quoting the deceased in support of fascism is so anti- American.
“When fascists die, democrats don’t complain”
Why the hell would they? If I got up Thursday and was told mangolago was dead I’d be a happy camper.
“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go”
Oscar Wilde
yeah, there’s gonna be a lot of celebrating when Caligula Grendel passes off his mortal coil and then what? JD whatever his last name is arrests those folks citizens and otherwise?
And Mike Johnson, waiting in the shadows. Good thing for JD that Mike is a devout Christian or he would have to watch his back.
My guess is that it was someone in the AfD – the rightwing nazi-curious party in Germany, predominantly in the old East Germany. Prior to the last German national election, Elon Musk spoke at their big pre-election rally, and other Trump allies like JD Vance have similarly cozied up to them.
Kirk himself interviewed AfD folks on his podcast (this one just prior to the election), and at his death, Alice Weidel, the co-chair of the AfD in the German parliament spoke on the floor of parliament to honor him (German).
Just as the US political parties have folks who watch what is said by the major media outlets, I am sure the AfD does the same with Germany’s media, like the public broadcaster ZDF.
RFKjr spoke at one of the rallies that AfD arranged.
If I recall correctly, RFK Jr’s grandfather was a Nazi supporter, along with the Bush family. Fascism runs deep in Amerika.
Why did ICE show a US citizen an over 10 year old photo of him on a fishing boat before snatching him off the street?
Palantir/Doge on crappy AI? Or the DHS program snitch out an old coworker who just may be an immigrant?
https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/09/milwaukie-man-ice-arrest/
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vlq3_nJAgxU
Comedian Robby Roadsteamer dressed as a giraffe gets assaulted for hurting fascists’ feelings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHTuJ7P8YiM
Stephen Miller can pleasure himself watching this.
I was about to walk out the door to lead Bible study at my wife’s congregation. After that mental image, I can’t see to drive!
A Message From The Frog Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5zxdSObso
“When fascists die, [small “d”] democrats don’t complain.”
That would be restrained, compared to the litany of violent speech from the American right. It doesn’t even warrant a favorable mention.
A major disagreement with the argument that Kirk “sought out debate.” The claim is risible. Kirk sought performance theater. He looked for random individuals on campus who were ten years younger and under-qualified to debate him, and spewed a series of canned gotcha points at them in front of a small, hand-picked mob of supporters. That’s not debate. It’s staged propaganda masquerading as debate that he put on an endless loop.
yep, that’s right and that’s not “doing it the right way” unless one means the other meaning of “right”.
This is a part of what DOGE access to government departments was all about. The teen crew’s specialty was using AI to organize and search databases. My recollection of the reporting is that Big Balls, or one of his cohorts, had some programs on git that were designed to do exactly that. All that was needed was the databases to run their AI on. A 66% accuracy rate is probably about right for AI searches and correlation of large databases, as of now. The goal is to raise the accuracy rate to near 100%.
We are being trapped in a social structure where everything and everybody will be searchable for everything that we’ve ever written, everywhere we’ve ever been, and everybody that we’ve ever interacted with. And, it isn’t ‘we’ who control the information or how it is catalogued. Brave New World…….and how do we stop it?
They cannot detain 75 million people. They’re counting on us to keep our mouths shut and report those that don’t. March, shout, fight, make them try to detain a tenth of us.
Certain Young Republicans are pondering these very points today.
JD Vance downplayed messages such as ‘I love Hitler’ in the chat by 24 to 35-year-olds as ‘stupid jokes.’
Apparently fascism is funny to smokey eyes Mr. Eyeliner & Mascara.
For public consumption he just spews the party line but privately he is into adVancement.
TIA – Total Information Awareness seems to have gone global. Oracle’s Ellison funding Tony Blair’s GAZA Management and the UK proposing digital IDs. In the US our government is scouring data sources to find thought crime to punish those that may have a different viewpoint, while that same Ellison will ensure the public hears that this is good as Bari Weiss, Ezra Klein and Tony Dokoupil will make it so.
Greengiant opines that it is Palintir or DOGE? I find it hard to believe the Ellison Camp would let Musk have access to their data and in fact that crew might have used him to get “it” for them? I do not know what group has what datasets to work with but I suspect some have less.complete ones or poorer algorithms than others. I think Musk was less of a database guy and had less access or desire for this kind of data until he was funded to buy Xitter**.
The Brown Fox asks How do we stop this brave new world? I say stand up and demand our Constitutional Rights as the young want us to do, but alas the push from the Dems is healthcare subsidies and no other vision*. Democrats are not aggressive or progressive enough for this moment.
* Alicia Andrews from Oklahoma spoke at our recent ACDems Meeting.
** So Bezos – He parlayed customer desires for stuff and once he conquered that field, he began to bid on providing “data warehousing” and “cloud” services to the US government. After pondering that data a bit, he bought the WAPO.
As of October 12th 2025, Americans entering Europe’s Schengen Area must provide biometric information of themselves under the guise of not overstaying the 90-day rule.
What a waste of time and money. there are all sorts of things which need attention in the U.S.A. and here they are looking for people who said things some officials didn’t like. omg, fire the bunch of them and get them a job on road maintenance.
Had never heard of Kirk until he was killed. well I do live in Canada. No one deserves to be killed but I certainly didn’t mourn his exit. The U.S.A. nor Canada need more hate. Perhaps acceptance, kindness, the ability to look at things in terms of the greater good.
Some of the maga crowd act as if his death was some national disaster. In a manner it is because he was killed, but what he stood for, well what comes around goes around. You advocate for open gun warfare in your country it could well come back to smack you in the ass or in this case, a bullet to the body. Oh well it will give trump another opportunity to make like he is important.
I wonder if you were an immigrant but had the Trump Gold Card, you could get away with mocking Charlie Kirk’s murder, or does that require the Trump Platinum card, with its level of “special privilege”? Asking for a friend:
https://trumpcard.gov/
Gold requires a $1 million donation”, while Platinum requires $5 million. Fascism is very complicated and expensive, it seems.
Canary Project, StandWithUs (SWU) (aka Israel Emergency Alliance), and AMCHA Initiative are all very well-financed doxing projects all of which have been in business for at least fifteen years, longer in the case of SWU. All have been involved in identifying pro-Palestine speech (and therefore, antisemitism) for deportation as well as in the harassment and dismissal of pro-Palestinian faculty on college campuses across the country.
There may be more, but these organizations come to mind immediately.
The Canary Mission is very alarming. I had not heard of it until reading James Bamford’s January 2023 book Spyfail.
Spyfail, a book I recommend, documents a ton of foreign influence on US politics, that had received little or no attention in leftwing or mainstream media. I believe that the left and mainstream’s hyper focus on Russia in 2016, had the effect of contributing to the lack of coverage of other areas of foreign influence.
This is the reason (along with crony corruption) for the ginormous contracts with companies like OpenAI, Palantir and Musk’s Grok.
Digging up connections like this is the entire raison d’être of Palantir, now supercharged with AI.
They’ve been very open about their desire to emulate Xi’s dystopian social control regime. Who needs the vast network of snitches like the old school Stasi, when everything’s been fed into the maw of the AI’s.