RFK Jr. DNR’d the US Healthcare System

[NB: check the byline, thanks. /~Rayne]

I’ve been sick with COVID this past week, missing the first classes of the fall semester.

I was exposed by a cancer patient who finished a second round of chemotherapy earlier this month. They weren’t vaccinated within the last year because they were undergoing chemo.

They were exposed after Saturday evening mass at their Catholic church in Florida, where others around them were likely not vaccinated, and definitely unmasked, unlike the cancer patient. A dementia patient who refused to mask was the vector between the congregation and the cancer patient.

The cancer patient is still recovering and now at about 90% of their capacity. They’re moving very slowly, thinking just as slowly. They can’t be left alone because they don’t have the reaction time they used to have.

I’m about 95% recovered, still have some sinus congestion and lingering crud in my chest. My ribs and my throat feel still feel bruised from hacking up my lungs so hard earlier this week.

What I’m not certain I’ll recover from is the trauma of having to check my father the cancer patient for a pulse last week when he collapsed on the kitchen floor, reviving him, getting him up and moving and into my car so I could rush him from their remote home to an urgent care facility more than 30 minutes away.

I didn’t think to put a mask on him or a mask on myself at the time because I was worried something had gone very wrong after my dad’s two-year fight with cancer. I was worried about the monsoon-like storm I had to drive through to get to urgent care. I thought erroneously he had recovered from COVID and wasn’t contagious because he hadn’t had a fever and he hadn’t been coughing.

So I unintentionally hot boxed my dad’s COVID-laden exhalations in my car for 30 minutes trying to save my father. I’d do it again if it came down to it but I should never have had to.

This country has been deeply damaged enough by the anti-vaccine movement since the COVID pandemic began; it shouldn’t have to face worse.

~ ~ ~

By now you’ve read Peterr’s Thursday post about the government’s internecine warfare at the Centers for Disease Control and the excision of director Susan Monarez, followed by the protest resignations of senior CDC staff in support of Monarez. The senior staff who resigned are:

• Demetre Daskalakis, former director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases
• Debra Houry, former chief medical officer and deputy director for program and science
• Daniel Jernigan, former director of the National Center for Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases
• Jennifer Layden, former director of office of public health data, science, technology

Each of these individuals has a deep background and education in medicine, healthcare, or public health. None of then should have been expected compromise themselves to support our nation’s public health.

None of them should have been treated so shabbily by RFK Jr.’s shit-tastic management of HHS. It’s not at all hyperbole to call it shit-tastic; I strongly recommend listening to The New York Times’ podcast interview with Demetre Daskalakis because it will rid you of any doubt the label is deserved.

Here’s an excerpt I found particularly telling:

DASKALAKIS: Yeah. So this was not related to ACIP, the announcement by the Secretary to change the childhood schedule. I learned about the change of the childhood schedule on X.

ABRAMS: You learned about it on social media —

DASKALAKIS: Yes, ma’am.

ABRAMS: — like the rest of us.

DASKALAKIS: That is correct.

ABRAMS: Wow.

DASKALAKIS: So I was sitting in a meeting with senior leaders at CDC. And as I was sitting there talking about the outbreaks that I was managing, my phone blew up with, “I didn’t know you guys were changing the children’s schedule.”

ABRAMS: People texting you?

DASKALAKIS: Yeah.

ABRAMS: Wow.

DASKALAKIS: Not from HHS, people in the world. Because they saw —

ABRAMS: People in the world, your friends and family or whoever seeing this and being like, this doesn’t sound like you.

DASKALAKIS: Correct. So we then asked the question, what’s going on? Can we see some kind of documentation? Because they were like, implement the change. But we’ve never seen anything in writing, so we asked if we could see the supporting data that led to the decision. And we were told no.

ABRAMS: Just flat out no?

DASKALAKIS: Flat out no.

ABRAMS: But can I ask you, did you ever actually have a conversation with Kennedy about any of this or any of his senior staffers?

DASKALAKIS: No.

ABRAMS: Or is it just that —

DASKALAKIS: No.

ABRAMS: No communication.

DASKALAKIS: No.

ABRAMS: Did you ever try?

DASKALAKIS: Yes.

ABRAMS: And what would happen?

DASKALAKIS: So we offered to do briefings when he first started. I think some people were able to brief some lower level staff, but not staff that were Secretary Kennedy’s staff. So no one from my center has ever briefed the Secretary.

ABRAMS: On anything.

DASKALAKIS: Correct, on anything.

ABRAMS: So basically, don’t have a line into RFK, and he’s not seeking out your advice or the advice of people who are theoretically supposed to advise him on things like this. How did you feel about that at the time?

DASKALAKIS: I felt that this was highly atypical, that we weren’t able to share our expertise up the chain to be able to provide information that could be meaningful and thought process. And so what I kept thinking was, we’re not doing this, but there sure is a point of view up there. I wonder who’s doing it.

My job is to make sure that we’re giving good science so people can make good decisions. And if I can’t make sure that science is untouched by non-scientific influence, I cannot say that I’m doing my job.

I believe that CDC science is going to be compromised by HHS. And if that science becomes biased, if it gets unduly influenced, then I can’t have my name on that science as something that I think should be used to make important decisions for people’s lives.

Again, I strongly recommend listening to this podcast. The other disturbing facet is the way in which Abrams just plows on; it could be an artifact of editing, but it could be another of the many ways in which media has not paused and shouted at the public how disturbing and inappropriate are RFK Jr.’s and Trump’s management of public health, in a misguided effort to remain neutral about a subject which isn’t and can’t be neutral at all.

How can a US media outlet be neutral in the face of what looks increasingly like an occupation of government agencies by hostile forces? In the case of the CDC under RFK Jr.’s HHS, it’s damaging the administration of vaccinations to the entire country while undermining the nation’s ability to respond to pandemic and bioterrorism, not to mention its ability to safely provide basic healthcare. No one will be unaffected; no one can be neutral.

~ ~ ~

I’m not kidding when I say our healthcare is now utterly compromised. Our first responders and healthcare providers can’t be assured of necessary vaccinations. From an ER doctor on Mastodon:

This is absolute bullshit.

One of the biggest purveyors of anti-vaccine propaganda, one without any healthcare education and training, has decided the persons most likely to be exposed to diseases on a daily basis are no longer eligible for COVID vaccinations if they do not have a limited number of pre-existing chronic health problems. From Jen Bendery on Bluesky:

(For the record, my autoimmune disorder which has cost me lung capacity, is not on this list. I am not eligible for another COVID shot until I turn 65.)

This is a recipe for disaster. Not only are rural hospitals at risk because of cuts to Medicare under Trump’s Big Fugly Bill, all hospitals are at risk if their staff can’t be vaccinated readily in the face of a new COVID wave.

If my father were to become sick again and collapse like he did, could he be assured there would be healthcare personnel ready to receive and treat him? Or might the healthcare system be overwhelmed and triage him to the very end of the line?

The same goes for any of the rest of us, really. How can anyone in the US be assured the healthcare system will be able to respond if RFK Jr. is allowed to continue to hack away at it without supporting data, without support by seasoned, qualified professionals, without adequate oversight by Congress?

~ ~ ~

Of the many things that raced through my mind as I tried to revive my dad was the thought we had not talked about DNR status.

I’m pretty sure my dad and mom have both indicated on healthcare POAs they are DNR under certain conditions.

What happens, though, when one of them collapses at home? Should I have left him on the floor while ensuring his comfort?

Obviously I didn’t do that.

But a little over a week later I can’t help wonder if RFK Jr. has now forced DNR on swaths of Americans, and we’re already DNR where we are in our own homes whether we realize it or not.

If our healthcare system collapses because of his anti-vaccine and anti-healthcare regime, is he not assuring our healthcare system cannot resuscitate many of us?

How would this be different under a hostile foreign occupation?

Share this entry
64 replies
  1. Rayne says:

    Sen. Bernie Sanders called for RFK Jr.’s resignation yesterday in an op-ed in NYT:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/30/opinion/bernie-sanders-robert-f-kennedy-jr-resign-hhs.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/30/bernie-sanders-rfk-jr-resign

    Contact your representatives and senators and demand the same. RFK Jr. is a threat to this nation’s health and security. If he won’t step down he should be impeached and removed, and the GOP congressional caucus in particular is responsible for making this happen by offering at least enough votes combined with Democrats to remove RFK Jr.

    Congressional switchboard: (202) 224-3121 or look up your reps and senators’ closest in-state office and call them there.

    Or use 5Calls or Resist.bot.

  2. Ms. Dalloway says:

    Best wishes to you and your dad for good recoveries. Sadly, we indeed are under foreign occupation. I firmly believe Putin, with a plan dating back to the fall of the Soviet Union, put Trump in office to destroy this country and, in a single area of competence, Trump is carrying out his orders. Nothing else would explain his simultaneous blitzkrieg attacks on our federal government, our rule of law, our health care system, our economy, our elections, our national unity, our immigrant work force and treasures like our national parks, the Smithsonian, the Kennedy Center and the White House, now apparently a dictator’s theme park. We should all wake up and smell the jackboots. If Trump is allowed to succeed, Putin will have made America a puppet state, to be looted at will.

    • gruntfuttock says:

      I sympathise with your viewpoint but I think you’re overlooking Trump’s monstrous ego.

      He thinks the US of A, and everywhere else in the world, should bow down to him. Russia is playing on that (and almost certainly helped him get where he is) but it’s not necessary for Trump to behave as he does – that’s just him. Putin sees a useful idiot he can use and has used him brilliantly. Trump spouts Soviet propaganda and takes state control of the means of production (computer chips) while pretending that his enemies are the socialists.

      • Ms. Dalloway says:

        You’re right, Trump is using Putin’s playbook, but I don’t think he has a choice. Just one example: Trump is ravenous for that Nobel Peace Prize. If he really wasn’t under Putin’s thumb, he’d use the vast powers of his office to force Putin to the negotiating table, to both win the prize and boost his approval here at home, something he needs badly. Yet he’s consistently avoided that route, I believe because it would piss off the boss. Another tell? After that ten-minute limo ride in Alaska, Trump, who’d been all smiles before, literally dancing on the tarmac, looked like someone had kicked him in the teeth. And, magically, after Alaska, all his tough talk about Russia evaporated. I think Putin laid down the law, Trump was to do nothing to help Zelensky or there would be (Epstein-related?) consequences.

        • gruntfuttock says:

          You’re right about his obsequiousness to Putin and his obssessive need to get even with Obama about a Nobel.

          And he’s basically above any consequences for his actions now. He’s old, he’s obviously not well, probably losing it mentally.

          But, if so, why are all his court going along with it? Why aren’t the knives out? Has Putin got dirt on all of them too?

        • gruntfuttock says:

          While my other comment is in moderation purgatory, I had this other, simpler, thought:

          Putin reminded Trump that he, Putin, also has nukes.

        • Joe Orton says:

          But there’s the fact that whatever Trump touches he turns to shite. He’s running our country into the ground, like his previous bankrupt companies and ventures, because he needs to think only he knows how to do it. I believe it’s Trump’s sick ego and rotted personality that attracted Putin to want to help him get elected.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      The line of Rayne’s that caught my eye: “…while undermining the nation’s ability to respond to pandemic and bioterrorism…”

      While this may be ancillary to Trump, who seems out to monetize the office to the greatest degree possible while imposing his will on all who have resisted him, it is surely not a side effect for our foreign adversaries. Like most ultra-wealthy Americans, Trump doesn’t need to care about “public health”; they can afford the best care.

      The danger to rest of us, however, supplies a tremendous potential opportunity for any enemy with designs on a takeover, whether political (say, by co-opting the GOP entirely) or by military or other force.

      • Rayne says:

        One of the senior CDC folks who resigned was responsible for counterterrorism response.

        All those senior staff combined are what ensured the CDC could respond to a biological threat comprehensively — now a hostile entity need only launch an agent for which RFK Jr. won’t produce a vaccine. Even measles becomes a bioterror threat based on RFK Jr.’s shitty response to measles.

        And not even being wealthy can protect against measles if there’s no vaccine.

        • Ginevra diBenci says:

          Rayne, don’t you think the superrich would figure out how to get their hands on a measles vaccine? Those tech “geniuses” would surely maintain a private reserve for themselves, and a few friends.

  3. DoubleDeens says:

    Thank you, Rayne, for your excellent posts and your care of this site, and best wishes to you and your father in this difficult situation. I have a quibble, not with you, but with the media you quote who refer to Robert Jr. as “RFK,” which we can see occurring in several of the posts you quote. It’s hard seeing Trump’s goon getting undeserved boosts of character in this way. Again, thanks to you for all you do, and for this informative post.

  4. P J Evans says:

    Rayne, I’d be asking not only for Kennedy to resign, but also for all the other non-doctors appointed to run the various parts of HHS to resign. And if they have medical licenses, for those to be pulled.

    • Rayne says:

      Thanks! I’m perking along about as well as expected. I was vaccinated last December but COVID still does a number on me; I dread what might have happened without a vaccination.

      Dad’s a different story considering his two-year fight with cancer. We think he’ll be okay but we don’t know yet if he’ll get Long COVID or if there will be other sequelae related to COVID-post-chemo combination

      • Ms. Dalloway says:

        Perhaps a small hopeful note. A friend with Stage 4 cancer contracted Covid three years ago. She recovered from it with no long-term damage, and as far as we can tell, no adverse effect on her treatment.

        • Rayne says:

          Responses to COVID vary so greatly across groups and individuals. My dad’s first exposure to COVID was July 2023 — again at a bloody Catholic church. Less than 8 weeks later he’d lost 25 pounds and was diagnosed with cancer. Fortunately it was caught fairly early. But I can’t help think COVID was a trigger affecting his immune system.

          It has certainly done marked damage to my mother, deepening her dementia with each of her two exposures.

        • Rayne says:

          Thanks, harpie! I’m grateful you’ve been sharing the tick-tock of the attempted human trafficking of 600 unaccompanied children.

          I wish some journalists would clue in that this particular mass deportation is human trafficking right under their noses.

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        Praying for you and your family, Rayne. I took care of my mom in Ann Arbor the year before she died; Michigan laws made that tricky financially in 2017, so I can only imagine the challenges you are facing now.

        You raise a key aspect of Covid vaccinations: the advantage they confer in terms of surviving infection. My first case of Covid was in early 2020. It was a grizzly bear. I got vaxxed (J&J was the only one available and I had serious side effects) as soon as I could, and have gotten boosters ever since (*not* J&J, thank God!). I’ve caught Covid four times since, but never been affected worse than a moderate flu.

        I have Sjogren’s scleroderma, an autoimmune disease that makes me catch everything easier and get worse symptoms than most. Those vaccines may not have prevented me from catching Covid, but I’m convinced they have kept me alive.

        • Rayne says:

          Oh, if you have Sjogren’s you know exactly what I’m talking about with the autoimmune challenge.

          If not for the mRNA and later atenuated virus vaccines I don’t know that I’d be here participating at emptywheel.

        • Ginevra diBenci says:

          replying to Rayne:

          Continuing to get Covid boosters is an essential requirement for me to continue attending our local protests. I wonder how many others this is true for?

          While no one would ever admit it, restricting access to necessary vaccines is an excellent way to curb attendance at mass protests–at the same time as the authoritarian regime enacts ever more horrifying and destructive policies.

    • gruntfuttock says:

      Hoping for the same.

      My Mum was in a care home and they didn’t realise she was DNR and resuscitated her after she collapsed. She wasn’t great but she was able to recognise me and talk to me even if I couldn’t understand her speech sometimes. I don’t really know if that was better or worse for her.

      Hope it’s better for you and your Dad.

  5. Matt Foley says:

    Rayne, I’m so sorry. Hope you and dad feel better soon.

    I’m not current on the latest covid variant/variants, how contagious, how effective the vaccine is against transmission, against hospitalization, against death. I wouldn’t know where to look for this info now that I don’t trust the CDC.

    Wisdom from the MAGA death cult:
    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lxp7wpctcl2u

  6. BRUCE F COLE says:

    Best wishes, Rayne.

    I’m trying to think of a recent time frame when you were not active on this blog, and I can’t come up with one. Did you work through your illness (not to mention your family trauma) with your duties here????

    • BRUCE F COLE says:

      …and “DNR” is the perfect frame for what that ratfucker’s doing.

      “Infamy” doesn’t come close to the stigma for what this cabal has done, in the years ahead.

    • Rayne says:

      I was quite literally on this site doing some moderation stuff when my dad collapsed. I had been sitting in the kitchen working on my laptop while my dad was chopping vegetables for supper. Then all hell broke loose.

      Took me 45 min to revive him and get him in the car (though not without another minor accident); I drove like a sopping wet bat out of hell to urgent care where I’d arranged to meet my sibling, oldest child, and my mom who’d all gone shopping. We carefully swapped my mom for my dad without letting my mom catch wind of what was going on — her dementia is bad enough that she didn’t realize my dad really wasn’t going to the grocery store with my sibling.

      I drove my kid and mom back home and then checked on the website again. I think I was AFK for 3 hours. LOL

      As for being sick — meh. My first bout of COVID coincided with the mass shooting on Michigan State’s campus; I did a live blog here while blowing my nose and coughing. Just another day in the neighborhood, though I did take more naps than usual during both bouts of COVID.

      In hindsight it was a very good thing I had stayed behind with my dad, puttering in moderation. I can’t imagine what could have happened if I’d gone shopping with the rest of the family.

  7. gmokegmoke says:

    I remember having a brainstorm about terrorist targets soon after 9/11. I thought if a terrorist group wanted to wage biological warfare against USAmerica, the obvious target would be Atlanta and the Center for Disease Control. Get the experts sick first and that would make the biological weapon that much more dangerous. The Boston area, where I live, would be another likely target.

    Little did I know that bureaucratic stupidity would do the same thing nearly a quarter of a century later.

    • BRUCE F COLE says:

      “Stupidity” doesn’t begin to cover it (although they are all incredibly dim and blinkered, even the “smart” ones like Vance). The innate malevolence of the whole project is what will linger in history, like that of their fascist forerunners.

  8. RockyGirl says:

    Yes, the current HHS Secretary and all his mionions have got to go.

    But what assurances can we have that his replacement won’t be just as bad? Maybe not as overtly crazy/evil, but let’s face it, support for and adherence to good medical protocols is not particularly favored by the current reich. I am not optimistic.

    • Rugger_9 says:

      The proposed replacement might be (Loomer, Lewandowski, why not be consistent?) but I really can’t see the Rs risking their seats even with Convict-1’s endorsement. By the time the nomination hits the Senate, more than a few of the stories noted about red state consequences will have percolated through their states and the Senators know MAGAs are also vindictive. The canary in the coal mine here is Ernst’s running for the hills by deciding not to seek re-election.

        • Rugger_9 says:

          Normally I’d concur with that sentiment, but there’s a reason Ernst bailed, and FWIW the ongoing polling clearly shows (as do special elections like IA Senate 2) that Convict-1 is losing his touch with the MAGA base and independents. From the WH perspective, it looks like they think they do not need the base any more, so why make the MAGA base happy when the WH can just get them riled up for 2028?

          We’ll see, but the GOP Senators will pat more attention to their polls than Pravda Social.

        • P J Evans says:

          I don’t know what the MAGAs will do next year – I doubt they’re going to return to reality.

  9. gRegor_31AUG2025_1708h says:

    I am so sorry about your dad’s and your own infections. I hope you both recover well and there is not long-lasting damage.

    It’s important that everyone who is medically capable wears well-fitting masks in public settings. It is one of the simplest and most effective ways to reduce transmission. Each broken chain of transmission is lives saved. Remember that damage from these infections is cumulative. Each time, you’re more likely to have long-term post-viral illness, even if your initial symptoms were “mild.”

    Institutions are failing us, but we can still protect each other.

    [Welcome to emptywheel. Please choose and use a unique username with a minimum of 8 letters. We adopted this minimum standard to support community security. Because your username is too short and common, your username will be temporarily changed to match the date/time of your first known comment until you have a new compliant username. /~Rayne]

    • Rayne says:

      I wear a mask whenever I’m in shared public spaces. Over fall and winter semesters last year I was the only person across four classes, student or instructor, who was not absent due to illness.

      I wore a mask from the time I left my parked car until I returned to it each time I was on campus. I was the *only* person in my classes who wore a mask.

      Masks work. So does adding adequate air filtration. My spouse hasn’t gotten COVID from me; I opened all the house windows and ran cross ventilating fans 7/24 since I got home last weekend, before I even knew I’d gotten COVID. I have a Corsi-Rosenthal box running 7/24 as well. I use a CO2 particulate meter to check air quality indoors and out; I’d also used it in classrooms on campus my previous two semesters. I guess I need to look into a car-sized filtration device as a failover if I forget to mask in a rush.

  10. xxbronxx says:

    RFK Jr should never be identified with any sort of relation to Bobby Kennedy. RFK Jr should always be identified as the human equivalent of Harry Lime, the supreme villain of film noir from The Third Man who sold tainted penicillin to children’s hospitals. RFKJr = Harry Lime.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      LOL. Bob Kennedy *is* the son of RFK. He’ll always be associated with his dad and his uncle, if for no other reason than that he has frequently caused them to spin in their graves.

      • Rugger_9 says:

        Here in Silicon Valley we had a San Jose politico named George Shirakawa, who by all accounts was a worthwhile man of the people. His son, George Junior traded on his father’s good will and became one of the most corrupt politicians we’ve seen, IIRC ending up in jail.

        It’s the Mario Cuomo versus Andrew comparison as well on a more national level of attention. This is a case where the courtier media isn’t doing its job as usual.

        • P J Evans says:

          People tend to assume…wrongly.
          (I’m sure that RFKjr got all the required/recommended vaccines when he was a kid. His parents were smarter than he is.)

  11. xyxyxyxy says:

    As Measles Exploded, Officials in Texas Looked to CDC Scientists. Under Trump, No One Answered.
    By Amy Maxmen KFF Health News
    In the month after Donald Trump took office, his administration interfered with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention communications, stalled the agency’s reports, censored its data, and abruptly laid off staff. In the chaos, CDC experts felt restrained from talking openly with local public health workers, according to interviews with seven CDC officials with direct knowledge of events, as well as local health department emails obtained by KFF Health News through public records requests.
    https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/texas-measles-outbreak-cdc-vaccines-rfk-trump/

  12. Shredgar says:

    Checked the list of Covid vaccination qualifying conditions. Long Covid and previous repeated Covid infections are not on the list.

    The ignorance, malevolence, and stupidity is blinding.

  13. Molly Pitcher says:

    So sorry to hear about you and your Dad, Rayne. Here in the Bay Area, 1 in 30 people have Covid, but so few people are wearing masks. It is maddening.

    I have been reading about long Covid , and research about the affects of Covid from researchers all over the world. Several are saying that Covid can trigger dormant cancer, which is terrifying. Many of them think that Covid can hide out in your gut. I would include a wide range of probiotics in your recovery. The microbiome appears to take a big hit with the illness.

    And you have to wait 3 months till you can get vaccinated now. But I think you can get it when under 65 because you are a caretaker of two people who are medically compromised.

    • Rayne says:

      The virus lingers in the gut because it attaches to epithelial cells; the gut is lined with epithelial cells and is the largest single collection of epithelial cells in the body. Having a healthier gut biome can help, but it may not be enough for some folks. I’m the example as I consciously consume prebiotic and probiotics foods, even making my own kimchi, yogurt, kombucha, vinegar, pickles. Didn’t offer protection against +30 minutes of inhaled virus.

      Wearing a mask while driving my dad would have spared me this infection. Finding some way to wangle my dementia addled mother into wearing a mask at church would have stopped my dad’s infection as well as hers.

      But that FL church full of people who didn’t give a shit about cancer patients among them let alone pregnant women, children, cognitively impaired? That’s the real problem. They were neither adquately vaccinated nor did they wear masks. Pro-life my ass.

    • Joe Orton says:

      My friend who lives in Oakland has gotten Covid three times. The second time was long Covid. The third time was just recently. She’s owns a business and was highly active and physically fit. The long covid took away her activity and fitness. When she was finally getting back to exercise after the long covid, she got covid for the third time. Hopefully it won’t be long covid again.

      • xyxyxyxy says:

        Wearing a mask or not before any of the bouts?
        Indoor business?
        How much face-to-face interaction with others?

  14. Joe Orton says:

    I hope its obvious to the bulk of people who vote that Trump is/wants to take away things and choices from the average person (vaccines, health care, marriage, National Park land, etc) but he is giving and giving to the ultra wealthy.

    I have 2 children under 5. I’m seriously concerned that I won’t be able to give them the vaccines I want them to have. How’s that for freedom?

  15. Savage Librarian says:

    I’m glad to hear you’re doing better, Rayne. And I wish your folks well. Like you say, it was good that you stayed behind with your dad. And I’m sure your sibling is very grateful that you were there to help, as well.

    I can’t help but think how much better things would be now if the Biden-Harris and then the Harris-Walz team had not been so unjustly stigmatized. Things would have been so much better for children, seniors, the working class, migrants, the economy, the middle class, and all American residents regardless of political persuasion. It’s so tragic.

    Care giving can be so stressful. For me, it was much more difficult than the whistleblowing and court ordeal I went through. And that experience was grueling.

    There are so many obviously destructive people in the Trump administration. But, don’t forget, they are supported and enabled by people in the shadows. For example, this article (with excerpts) alludes to how influential Wiles is, especially in the selection of staff and Cabinet members:

    The ‘Ice Maiden’ Cometh: Can Susie Wiles, Trump’s Chief of Staff, Survive? – Elisabeth Bumiller, Updated Jan. 10, 2025

    Her goal is to have 2,000 out of 11,000 appointments done by the Jan. 20 inaugural. There were only 25 completed by the first Trump inaugural in 2017, when Ms. Wiles was not in the administration.
    ,,,,,
    Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime Trump adviser who has known Ms. Wiles for 30 years [said,] “When you do something that displeases her, and you’ve made a mistake, you’ll get a one-sentence message from her: ‘Do you think you were helping when you did this?’”

    …To Ms. Wiles, Mr. Hegseth is one of Mr. Trump’s desired “disrupters” of the status quo, just like his choice of Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence and Mr. Kennedy as the secretary of health and human services.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/09/us/politics/susie-wiles-trump.html

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      Thank you, SL, for continuing to remind us of Wiles’s role in all this. It’s important to keep in our minds that if she were against something, she would prevent it from occurring; her alliance with Stephen Miller gives me particular nightmares. And given that her superpower remains her invisibility, as far as media attention is concerned*, your constant awareness of her machinatory skills remains invaluable.

      You are our resident Wiles expert. I’ve read about her when I could find reporting, as in Michael Wolff’s under-appreciated All or Nothing. But, aside from a steely quest for ever more power, I can’t discern Wiles’s long game. What is your assessment?

      *I suspect that the MSM’s hands-off policy with Wiles is due to her serving as a source–unnamed, of course.

      • Savage Librarian says:

        Ginevra, I know some specific things Wiles did in my case that gave me insight into her choice of behavior. I won’t share what she did, but it did give me an opinion about her. And it also gave me opinions about people who knew what she did and chose to go along with it.

        But I can say that I believe her long association with Roger Stone and Paul Manafort may be worth taking into consideration. This excerpt mentions Wiles’ friendship with Manafort:

        Trump fires top aide – POLITICO, 5/25/16

        …Though hired under Lewandowski, Giorno has close ties to Manafort as well through Susie Wiles, who is a longtime friend of Manafort’s and managed Florida Gov. Rick Scott’s 2010 campaign.

        https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-parts-ways-with-top-aide-223590

        • xyxyxyxy says:

          So it appears from meidastouch, etc that Trump is out of it.
          So you’re familiar with Wiles, who would you think she has put “in charge” of the US if Trump is really out of it?
          And as I write this, if he is really out of it, is there a mutiny and a wrestling match behind the scenes as to who ruins the US?

        • Ginevra diBenci says:

          Thank you, SL. Karen Giorno must now have one of the most powerful lobbyist’s voices in…well, not just DC but the world. She sure figured out early where to affix her loyalty.

          Who’s running the country? My guess: Stephen Miller and Susie Wiles. Russ Vought, who produced Project 2025, would have substantial input, but Miller and Wiles have a shared (and lucrative) history at the Miller-founded America First Policy Institute, one those “scheme tanks” where Trump’s campaign got born.

          Plus, I hear they’re bring Cleta Mitchell back on board for voter suppression purposes–excuse me, “election integrity” issues.

        • Savage Librarian says:

          Ginevra, Brooke Rollins and Stephen Miller are America First. I’m not aware that Susie Wiles is, though she was at the Save America PAC. (Sometimes I think I sound like a chatbox, especially when I’m tired.)

  16. RealAlexi says:

    Grateful to hear you’re on the mend, and very very best wishes to your dad in recovering. I lost my Mom to cancer a number of years ago. It’s too painful to talk about. Love and care for your family as best you can. Life is exceedingly short.

    ~ Alexi

  17. Thomas Paine says:

    Just read an article this morning that some OTC nose sprays appear provide some prophylaxis against COVID-19, as per a new European clinical study. The recommendation is three “snorts” per day. The brand names are Astepro and Astelin. These may provide some protection against COVID this winter for those who have been designated ineligible for vaccine by RFK Jr.s asinine HHS minions.

    Secondly, I would guess that many blue state public health departments will allow and encourage “off label” use of the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines to protect vulnerable populations – such as health care workers, with or without high risk conditions.

    Finally, a Class Action lawsuit against RFK, Jr., personally, may be warranted if enough people get seriously ill from the next wave of COVID-19. We all need to take the last section of JB Pritzker’s Chicago speech to heart and pledge to hold every single one of the Trump Administration’s minions personally accountable for all the obvious harms that their actions cause to We the People. A reprise of COVID-19 would be on the top of the list of preventable harms from their dereliction of duty.

    • Rayne says:

      A link to the article about the nose sprays would be helpful.

      I failed to take a backup step I’ve used in the past — saline nasal lavage and gargling to remove lingering viral load. The effect may be the same as the nasal sprays you mentioned.

      Yan L, Ding J, Xu M, Lin X, Mejia MBA, Chen J, Xu Y, Hong H, Chen L. Significance of saline nasalirrigation for COVID-19 infection: observations and reflections from nursing care of nasopharyngeal carcinoma. Transl Cancer Res. 2024 Feb 29;13(2):1114-1124. doi: 10.21037/tcr-23-2384. Epub 2024 Feb 28. PMID: 38482412; PMCID: PMC10928590.
      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10928590

      Tiong, V., Hassandarvish, P., Bakar, S.A. et al. The effectiveness of various gargle formulations and salt water against SARS-CoV-2. Sci Rep 11, 20502 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-021-99866-w
      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-99866-w

      The stupid part was that I had both saline spray and antiseptic mouthwash for gargling packed in my travel bag but I completely forgot to use it after I got my dad to urgent care. Something-something trauma response whatev, learned the hard way.

      I don’t know that a public official can be sued for performance of their job. I would like, however, to scream at every single jackass GOP in congress who vote to approve RFK Jr. to HHS. They swore an oath as all federal employees do and they fucking failed it.

      It’s unacceptable that blue state public health departments using off-label methods must be the backup for federal elected officials who failed to fulfill their oaths of office.

      • Savage Librarian says:

        Just want to remind you, Rayne, how extraordinary you are in so many ways. Something that I’ve been especially admiring about you recently is your initiative in taking classes. But there are many other things I admire as well. So, that’s my little dose of medicine for you today.

        • Rayne says:

          Aw, shucks, SL! You’re too kind and generous. If anybody’s extraordinary it’s you who’ve managed to make a massive body of dissent poetry. I sure hope you’ve kept a separate copy you might be able to publish even if self published.

  18. pdaly says:

    Rayne, just seeing this now.
    Hugs (with mask on!) to you and your father. Your father is lucky to have you as his guardian angel.

    In Massachusetts, patients and/or their health care proxy are allowed to waive an existing DNR/DNI order in the moment, even with a verbal comment, should they want EMS to proceed with resuscitation. You did an amazing job!

    With respect to Trump’s and RFK, Jr’s ongoing dismantling of our national science expertise (and repudiation of the Enlightenment) States are taking matters into their own hands. I’m staying tuned.
    https://www.mass.gov/news/governor-healey-issues-statement-on-trumps-turmoil-at-the-cdc

Comments are closed.