Making the No Confidence Votes Count: Support Impeachment

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  1. BlueStateRedhead says:

    while looking for impeachable offenses by then White House Counsel, be sure to include:
    1. speaking of classified information in an unsecured space, GW hospital,

    2. in front of person not cleared to hear it, Mrs. Ashcroft, and perhaps medical personnel and

    3. using an unsecured lines to prepare for this illegal sharing of information—is there an infraction under the Patriot Act here?

    According to USNWR, it is at least an action that merits disbarment from the Texas bar….

    Emptywheel, can you comment?

  2. jazz says:

    There is another way to make life miserable for Gonzo. All residents of Texas should contact the Texas State Bar Association and file complaints against Gonzo for ethical violations. The one everyone should file for is â€Moral Terpitudeâ€

  3. Quzi says:

    I called Senator Bond’s (MO)office asking for a yes vote on the No Confidence motion when it’s introduced in the Senate.

    Robert Greenwald rocks! Great video…

  4. marksb says:

    Curses Mitch McConnell, indeed. I hear his nasty little voice all the time on NPR and he seems to pop up every rare time I turn on CNN. I only wish Harry Reid got that kind of air time.

  5. BlueStateRedhead says:

    hold on. MSM is messing with our heads.
    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com…..98493.aspx

    â€What bunk. This quote is false. Ken Strickland got the quote wrong. The quote is not from a â€senior Democratic aideâ€, the quote is from the Minority Leader GOPer Mitch McConnell: WASHINGTON (AP) — The top Republican on the Senate committee investigating Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Sunday he believes Gonzales could resign before a no-confidence vote sought this week by Senate Democrats. In a further sign of his eroding support within the GOP, Gonzales failed to draw a public statement of support from Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell. Asked whether Gonzales effectively can lead the Justice Department, McConnell said â€that’s for the president to decide.†The senator suggested there may be several resolutions introduced to dilute a no-confidence vote. â€In the Senate, nobody gets a clear shot,†said McConnell, R-Ky. http://breakingnews.nypost.com…..ZAL… What is Ken Strickland trying to pull here?

  6. Quzi says:

    Not good news on the update. I can’t believe that we can’t do something to get his ass removed very soon! I did sign the Impeach Gonzo petition. But I was so hoping for a no confidence vote in the Senate. These Repugs like to obstruct justice at every turn.

  7. Jodi says:

    Why should the White House be afraid of an impeachment of Aberto Gonzales?

    The congress, the media, the blogsphere would be tangled up in the mess for months.

    The one hope for salvation for Bush, the Iraqi Surge will continue to go on, the war drums will roll and my wonderful big brother will do his duty and continue his dance with death.

    In the meantime a whole family of rabbits will have escaped the hat and crossed over the border.

    I am not sure about Libby, but I guarantee that Alberto Gonzales will get a Presidential Pardon if he needs one, and maybe even if he doesn’t need one yet.

    Libby was Cheney’s â€boy.†Alberto is a full blood brother of President Bush. My guess is they have sat in a sweat tent together and breathed the smoke of the holy cactus.

    They are one.

  8. Katie Jensen says:

    Well, that description of Bush/Gonzo sent chills up my spine. Talk about dysfunction and enmeshment. Not a mentally healthy pair, huh??

    I think the smoking analogy is probably a good analogy as to the â€club†that they share membership in.

    But what is it that makes them ONE? It’s almost like the mob, did they share in a dance of death together?? Oh, why yes they did…they sent thousands of men and women to their deaths for the love of money and power. How much closer to â€mob†mentality can you get? It’s quite a blood bond, isn’t it?

  9. Katie Jensen says:

    Well, that description of Bush/Gonzo sent chills up my spine. Talk about dysfunction and enmeshment. Not a mentally healthy pair, huh??

    I think the smoking analogy is probably a good analogy as to the â€club†that they share membership in.

    But what is it that makes them ONE? It’s almost like the mob, did they share in a dance of death together?? Oh, why yes they did…they sent thousands of men and women to their deaths for the love of money and power. How much closer to â€mob†mentality can you get? It’s quite a blood bond, isn’t it?

  10. looseheadprop says:

    Did anybody see the wonderful job Bob did of putting together and impeachment worrksite?

    I urge you to click on the link above and add whatever nuggets of proof you have from the docu dumps or other research you have been doing.

  11. oldtree says:

    Remember peasants, â€Decorum†that is Latin for those of us that didn’t get it in school. It is a greasy way to say we don’t talk about that which our brethren on the other side of the aisle may use against us in a partisan gun battle. In real speech: â€did we ever fool the rubes into voting for us. now we get all the lobbyists kissing our asses, paying our charities. and what have we done to deserve the votes? started a couple investigations for the dog and pony crowd. no real worries there. the investigations are being done by the cosa nostra so we know where they will get. we can look good and smell good too.
    we, the people, don’t appear to have gained very much yet? the cosa nostra haven’t backed down and they think they are going to be elected again. there are permanent bases being built in iraq and no one seems to care what any one is saying unless you can make them money. the justice in this country is meted out by criminals at the highest levels. can’t imagine the lower ones are doing anything this lurid, right? our military seems quite content with it’s role of policeman in Iraq. This is the training they need to control the streets if they come back. Our heroic prosecutors that are now speaking up to save their reputations and get book deals if they can’t save their reputations due to â€inequities†in their knowing of, not speaking of, and hence becoming part of, the obstruction of our justice system during a 5 year period? No filibusters to stop the cosa nostra from having their way with the country since 2001. no impeachment proceedings can get out of committee.
    the vice president meets in secret about oil with the people he intends to invade to get it. the military is broken, and now recruits gang members. soon it will be inmates.
    and we drink and go home.

  12. Neil says:

    Why should the White House be afraid of an impeachment of Alberto Gonzales?

    Because it would lead to the impeachment of others in the White House involved in illegal activities such as wiretapping without FISA warrants or endorsement by the OLC. In other words, the program did not pass legal muster with his own counsel: Bush knowingly broke the law. Now, It’s just Gonzalez on his own doing his best to dissemble, deny and obstruct.

  13. Cheryl says:

    EW,
    Wouldn’t it be best if Abu is impeached rather than resign? Am I correct that once you are impeached you are not allowed to hold the positions that Negroponte (Reagan – Iran Contra), Poindexter (Iran Contra), Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc… hold now, or up until recently (if only they had been impeached when they were in previous administrations). That’s a good enough reason to me to impeach so we don’t see Abu ten years later in another administration.

  14. vickie says:

    thanks as always EW!!!
    I have an OT question I have been meaning to post. Do you know if your Book TV seg is going to be shown again, I hope? We missed it at my house and have been looking for it to run again. Any news from your contacts? Thanks again for all of your wonderful investigating and writing – you keep the conversation charged at our house vickie
    feel free to post or drop me a private note

  15. Sara says:

    I support moving forward regarding a possible impeachment of Gonzales — but it would not be â€fast†and it would have to be done properly. To that end, I want to recommend that people read through, or re-read any number of descriptions of the Rodino Committee’s work toward the impeachment of Nixon, simply because they did a solid and very respectable job. In particular, read the counts that eventually were voted out, and some of the debate about them.

    The process has many stages. First, the need for a significant number of members of the house to author resolutions calling upon the Judiciary Committee to study and report back on the need to impeach Gonzales.

    Then the Rules committee, (Louise Slaughter) reviews, and commits to committee, perhaps with a time limit.

    Committee reports to the whole house, and if they find the equivalent of Probable Cause, then they ask for authorization to proceed, for committee staff and funding for investigations, and for additional subpoena and other investigative powers. If Granted, the Judiciary Committee staffs up and together with the Rules Committee lays down rules for proceeding.

    Then the investigation proceeds, followed by drafting counts for impeachment (much like a charge), and eventually debates, votes, and returns successful counts to the whole house for debate and vote.

    Unlike a Presidential Impeachment, an impeachment of a Judge or Cabinet Member can be referred to a sub-committee, or special committee of the House Judiciary Committee, and then once they have done the legwork, be sent to the full committee. (I suspect this is how it would work in this instance.)

    Once you get a handle on the rather complex process — then try to fit what we already know about Gonzales into draft resolutions — for what do you think he requires impeachment? Remember, it doesn’t have to be precisely a criminal act, but it requires the form of that, and citations to specific evidence that support the claim. This is not all that easy, particularly given that we still have huge blocks of information outstanding.

  16. bmaz says:

    Sara – Gonzales is not a President, but a cabinet member, and some of the steps you describe have already been accomplished by committees. There is no impediment to the House adopting any discovery done by the Senate and it’s committees. Thr relative harm from the ongoing conduct in Nixon was mostly contained by that point; here, with Bush (Gonzales), it is not only not contained, the justice system itself is being subverted. This is an exigent circumstance and time is of the essence for many reasons. I suggest some thing closer to the Alcee Hastings impeachment timeline, but with a beefed up framework within that timeline.