Schiff Memo Reveals that Mifsud Specifically Told Papadopoulos Russia Would Release Hillary Emails to Help Trump Campaign
“If it’s what you say I love it” – Don Jr., gleefully accepting Russian dirt after George Papadopoulos had been told Russia would release emails to help the campaign
HPSCI just released the Schiff memo responding to the Nunes memo. Mostly, it’s underwhelming.
But there is one piece of important news. The memo provides more details about what George Papadopoulos told Australian Ambassador, Alexander Downer, about the Russian outreach via Joseph Mifsud. That passage reads:
George Papadopoulos revealed [redacted] that individuals linked to Russia, who took interest in Papadopoulos as a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, informed him in late April 2016 that Russia [two lines redacted]. Papadopoulos’s disclosure, moreover, occurred against the backdrop of Russia’s aggressive covert campaign to influence our elections, which the FBI was already monitoring. We would later learn in Papadopoulos’s plea that the information the Russians could assist by anonymously releasing were thousands of Hillary Clinton emails.
While the description of what Papadopoulos said is redacted, the context makes it clear (as does this Adam Schiff tweet) that Papadopoulos didn’t tell Downer specifically what Russia had told him was available, only that they could release it to help Trump.
But that Mifsud told Papadopoulos that the Russians were thinking of releasing it to help Trump is news, important news. It means the discussions of setting up increasingly senior levels of meetings between Russia and the Trump campaign took place against the offer of help in the form of released kompromat.
Which, particularly given the evidence that Papadopoulos shared that information with the campaign, makes the June 9 meeting still more damning.
Nice catch and nice work, period.
I understand that Trump would accept help from anybody to win the election. But he’s not the kind of guy, despite what he frequently says, who shows loyalty or keeps his promises. The path to hell is strewn with decades of his broken promises and the people who believed him.
Why are Putin and Russia different? Trump was desperate to help them during the campaign, desperate to help them after the election, desperate to help them while in office.
He ignores Congress and sanctions legislation against Russia that he signed, contending that he’s doing super secret things to hurt them (not), and that formal sanctions are not needed. But he invents new, best evuh ™ sanctions to throw against lowly North Korea. He ignores Congress and the intelligence community and everyone worried about legitimate threats to our electoral and voting systems. But he replaces federal voting officials who believe in a Russian threat and creates a voting commission designed to make it harder for many people to vote.
Trump acts like a run-down building’s super, who promises his tenants every day that tomorrow will be the day he fixes the elevator, the heat, the cold water, the broken doors, broken steps, broken mail boxes. He never means it. But when Vlad in the penthouse wants something, he gets it before he asks for it. Why is that?
I think Vlad is the landlord or management company in that scenario.
Ha. “a run-down building’s super”
Money Laundering as a Service.
You may have heard about Panama Papers, and other machinations in Panama.
And now papers being shredded in the Panama Trump tower two days ago.
The Trump Ocean Club
https://www.apnews.com/ce4dbdd4446c4862bb9c483425554c67/Trump-officials-fight-eviction-from-Panama-hotel-they-manage
Deep background, lots of names, russia conne tion. See if you can find connections to other intel. It’s long, but a must read.
Big Player: Alexandre Ventura Nogueira
The others mentioned:
Ivanka Trump
Roger Khafif
Justine Pasek
Alan Garten
Arthur Middlemiss
Jimmy Gurule
Donald Trump Jr.
Eric Trump
Eleanora Michailov
Jenny Levy
Nelson Padilla
Igor Anopolskiy
Alexander Altshoul
David Murcia Guzman
Robert Abreu
Roniel Ortiz
Regis Philbin
Manuel Noriega
Ricardo Martinelli
Arkady Vodovosov
Stanislau Kavalenka
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-panama/
“He ignores Congress” is too generous. More like “Congress is complicit in his [fill in the blank]”.
I’m confused. Didn’t we know this already from Papadopolous’ statement of facts? See paragraphs 25-26.
¶¶25-26 don’t describe the Russians talking about releasing it to help Trump. The “Russians could assist by anonymously releasing” language is new.
Seriously? How close are you reading things?
Thanks for this, Marcy.
What happened to Mifsud, it’s like he fell off the edge of the earth? The university didn’t tell the truth about when he was hired. It’s like no one in this clusterF can give a straight answer.
MP writes to university about Trump-Russia academic
Ben Bradshaw posed a series of questions to Stirling’s principal regarding Joseph Mifsud.
https://stv.tv/news/politics/1407434-mp-writes-to-university-about-trump-russia-academic/
https://stv.tv/news/politics/1408855-university-slammed-for-response-on-trump-russia-academic/
For all we know he’s been arrested.
By the US?
My guess is UK.
https://www.rferl.org/amp/who-are-russian-contacts-in-papadopoulos-plea-professor-putin-niece/28826550.html
Others have been doing some deep digging.
(warning: site is slow)
https://jonworth.eu/joseph-mifsud-professor-papadopoulos-manafort-revelations/
Wow! That site shows an amazing degree of dogged persistence and careful laying out of all his research. Plus, his asides are a hoot!
I highly recommend it as worth a look. I’m not really “up” on Mifsud, but he has been memorialized and archived by this self-appointed researcher; and there’s a flow-chart/map of all Mifsud’s relationships and jobs/pretend jobs?/padded resume?
What a work of “art” or obsessive-compulsive research project! (And what a mine of information)
Why hasn’t The Special Counsel offered Ms. Wheeler a position on his staff? Maybe they have and the offer was gratefully and gracefully declined because of the deprivation that readers of this blog would suffer were the offer accepted. I have no doubt that someone on Mueller’s team has been assigned to read Ms. Wheeler’s columns assiduously, to make sure, smart and careful as they are, that the prosecutors are not missing anything.
Get outta here!
Position? No way.
That would lead to ineffectiveness.
More can be accomplished from the *outside*.
Much more.
That “they could release it to assist Trump” is something the Schiff memo says BUT only in the context of quoting Papadopolous plea statement [end note 5 ]
That Mifsud explicitly stated this, or that Papadopolous said to Downer that Mifsud had said this is NOT in the memo.
This post is a stretch on a gloss I’m afraid.
BTW I very much applaud the efforts to tease out subtle nuances, but unless I woke up with my stupid head on, this seems a tease too far.
When you read redacted documents, you look for necessary prior statements that are redacted. This is one such case. The reference “the information the Russians could assist by anonymously releasing” presupposes an earlier reference describing it.
And the footnotes. Always.
It was the footnotes in the Nunes memo that caught my eye.
(((aweisburd))) @webradius 1h1 hour ago
harpie, look above ^. I posted this yesterday. The university gave incorrect hiring dates, but came clean after being pressed.
Oh, I’m sorry about that, Trip. I’m having a difficult time keeping up with everything. The internet is working really slowly for me today, as well.
Don’t worry. I was just surmising that that person might read Marcy’s site. Or is simply like-minded.
now this is interesting. it’s just what you would expect to read in one of christopher steele’s chapters, but it comes from american intelligence and so can’t be easily dismissed.
another tie that binds – trump and the russsians – from another quarter. let’s see what mueller’s team makes of this.
Trump made deals with the Russian mob to save his business. They talked him into running for president, promised him Moscow hotel.
The Russians hacked the DNC. Trump won the primaries, probably with help (more hacks). They reached out to his campaign. He made a deal.
I suspect the deal was to disrupt the election. Make it looked rigged, humiliate Hillary.
Trump won. Now his balls are in a vice to Putin.
This is going to get ugly
This is going to get uglier than it already is.
Any difference between the “mob” and the majority of politicians in the Kremlin?
Any difference between the “mob” and the majority of politicians in the Kremlin?
Yes. The politicians have an ‘official’ job.
I suspect Mifsud is in a cold grave in Siberia
That’s what I wonder. Unless, as Marcy said, he has been arrested, either by the UK or US, and is somehow in protective custody. You can’t find any real news items on updates of his whereabouts.
I hope she’s right, but I think I am.
here’s an article from vox that argues that schiff and his staff did a very good job (brought the receipts :) ) of countering devin nunes’ deceitful attack on the fbi re the fisa application for carter page:
“The Democratic rebuttal to the Nunes memo tears it apart.”
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/24/17048936/democrat-rebuttal-nunes-schiff-memo
nytimes reporters evaluate the house democrats’ response to the nunes nonsense:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/us/politics/democratic-memo-released-fbi-surveillance-carter-page.html
Do we know for sure what emails are even being referenced in these docs? They keep saying “Hillary Clinton emails,” but the election emails were from the DNC and Podesta, very few from HC, and not even all that many directly about HC.
Makes me wonder if these references are actually about emails from her basement server.
Adam Schiff is making this exact point on Chris Hayes, tying together the Russian’s offer of anonymously releasing emails to Don Jr’s response in the Trump Tower overture