FBI Saw Itself “Managing What the Elephant Sees and Hears” in Advance of January 6

According to a report released yesterday by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee (HSGAC), on January 2, 2021, then FBI Washington Field Office Assistant Director Steve D’Antuono came away from some kind of exchange with then Deputy Director David Bowdich and described to two top WFO officials, Matthew Alcoke (in charge of counterterrorism) and Jennifer Moore (in charge of intelligence) how he tried to “tamp down” concerns about or plans for January 6.

Alcoke thanked D’Antuono for “ramp[ing] down” expectations, since really all the FBI’s WFO was doing was passing on information from partners like the DC Cops and Capitol Police.

Alcoke then made a shocking suggestion about intelligence sharing:

[M]anaging what the elephant sees and hears is sometimes the best way to control the elephant’s movements.

He seems to have suggested that the FBI might manage how the Federal government would respond to January 6 by managing what kind of intelligence the FBI passed on — and his assumption was that the FBI was only passing on intelligence from partners, not collecting any of its own.

It turns out that the Federal government — that elephant Alcoke imagined he might control — didn’t respond, not adequately. In the aftermath of that shoddy response, D’Antuono claimed that the FBI had seen nothing other than First Amendment protected activity.

During a briefing with reporters on Friday, Steven D’Antuono, FBI Washington Field Office assistant director in charge, told reporters that the bureau’s threat assessments leading up to Wednesday’s mobbing of the Capitol showed “there was no indication that there was anything other than First Amendment protected activity.”

Virtually every Federal official blamed local cops and the Capitol Police, insisting the Feds weren’t supposed to be the ones moving at all, the Capitol Police were.

D’Antuono, we’ve since learned, repeatedly tried to limit the investigation in the aftermath, playing a key role in thwarting any investigation into Trump’s actions for ten months.

Manage the elephant by controlling what it sees and hears.

A day after D’Antuono and Alcoke discussed tamping or ramping down, WFO personnel sent D’Antuono, Alcoke, and Moore a summary describing the following open source intelligence:

On January 3rd, an internal WFO email marked “for FBI internal use only” cited “unsubstantiated” open-source reporting that “ranges from threats to the DC water supply to armed insurrection to various groups threatening to kill those with opposing viewpoints.”156 Among the reports cited, the email noted an open-source post regarding January 6th that said “[i]t needs to be more than a protest. We need to kick doors down and fuck shit up” and another user commented, “will kill if necessary.”157

Another social media post stated, “I’m just waiting for the 6th so I can 1776 them… January 6th we burn the place to the ground, leave nothing behind.”158

The internal FBI-WFO email noted that a tipster reported that individuals on fringe websites were discussing an overthrow of the government if President Trump did not remain in office, and stated “[d]ate of attack 01/06.”159 A Parler user stated, “[b]ring food and guns. If they don’t listen to our words, they can feel our lead. Come armed.” 160

The email also reported social media posts that noted plans to bring firearms into the District and “set up ‘armed encampment’ on the [National] Mall,” and that the Proud Boys planned to “dress ‘incognito’ in order to more effectively target ‘antifa’ in the city.”161

A tipster from Georgia told FBI that the Proud Boys were planning to come to D.C. on January 6th and warned “[t]hese men are coming for violence.” 162 Another tipster told FBI that a Proud Boy told her they were planning an attack on January 6th to shut down the government. 163

Another tip stated “there is a TikTok video with someone holding a gun saying ‘storm the Capitol on January 6th.’”164

As the HSGAC report notes, even in spite of the two warnings about the Proud Boys and threats of violence, WFO concluded that this described just First Amendment protected activities.

Despite all of that reporting, the FBI summary concluded, “FBI WFO does not have any information to suggest these events will involve anything other than [First Amendment] protected activity” and that FBI had “identified no credible or verified threat to the activities associated with 6 January 2021.”165 This was also despite the fact that the Proud Boys were known to engage in violence, including at protests in Washington, D.C. in late 2020.166

As Alcoke described, the FBI marked the summary of these warnings “Internal” because sources were sensitive about sharing it outside the FBI.

A day after discussing “tamp[ing] down” concerns with Bowdich, D’Antuono just sent this entire email to the Deputy Director.

I just sent the whole thing, I don’t want him getting a sanitized version of events.

This is a report that attempts to do what January 6 Committee largely abdicated doing, looking at intelligence failures in advance of January 6.

The House Select Committee’s final report found that President Trump engaged in a multipronged effort to overturn the 2020 election by knowingly disseminating false and fraudulent allegations, pressuring state officials to submit false elector slates, pressuring DOJ officials to make false statements alleging election fraud, and calling on supporters to join him in Washington, D.C. on January 6 th and subsequently encouraging them to march on the Capitol.23 The House Select Committee’s report largely focused on President Trump’s role in attempting to overturn the 2020 election, and only briefly discussed federal intelligence efforts in the lead-up to the events of January 6th . 24 The House Select Committee report found that intelligence agencies, including FBI and I&A, had received intelligence on the potential for violence at the Capitol.25 This intelligence included discussions of the Capitol complex’s underground tunnels alongside violent rhetoric, information on the movements of violent militia groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, and numerous social media posts discussing storming the Capitol.26 The report also found that security agencies did not adequately prepare for and respond to the threat.27

At the direction of U.S. Senator Gary Peters, Chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee (HSGAC), and following the Committee’s initial review of the security, planning, and response failures in advance of and during the January 6th attack, Majority Committee staff conducted a subsequent review focused on the intelligence failures leading up to the attack on the U.S. Capitol on January 6th.

What it describes is utterly damning.

Yet, in spite of a laudable effort to do what J6C didn’t do, there are obvious gaps.

First, as described, HSGAC met the same kind of stonewalling others received.

The Committee received responses to many of its questions and numerous document productions from the agencies in its investigation, including DOJ-FBI and DHS-I&A. However, at various points throughout its investigation, the Committee encountered significant delays, incomplete responses, denied document requests (including documents required to be provided to the Committee under federal law), and refusals to make certain witnesses available to the Committee for interviews. The Committee sought to obtain the necessary information through voluntary compliance by the agencies in its investigation, but this lack of full cooperation hinders the ability of the Committee, and Congress more broadly, to effectively and efficiently conduct legitimate oversight of the Executive Branch.

The Chair of HSGAC, Gary Peters, has broad subpoena power. Yet this report remains wildly inadequate to the task of cataloging FBI’s failures to prevent January 6.

Worse, there are several known intelligence problems that it doesn’t address.

For example, it doesn’t chase down warnings floated in both militia leader trials in the last eight months.

It doesn’t pursue what happened after Oath Keeper “Abdullah Rasheed” called into an FBI tip line reporting on the November 9, 2020 GoToMeeting call in which Stewart Rhodes started talking about a revolution.

Listening to the meeting was Abdullah Rasheed, a Marine Corps veteran and a member of the far-right group from West Virginia. During testimony on Thursday at the trial of Mr. Rhodes and four of his subordinates, Mr. Rasheed told the jury that he was so disturbed by what he heard during the meeting that he recorded the conversation and ultimately called the F.B.I. to alert them about Mr. Rhodes.

“The more I listened to the call,” he said, “it sounded like we were going to war against the United States government.”

The testimony by Mr. Rasheed, a heavy-equipment mechanic, was clearly intended to bolster accusations by the government that Mr. Rhodes and his co-defendants — Kelly Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins and Thomas Caldwell — committed seditious conspiracy by using force to oppose Mr. Biden’s ascension to the White House.

[snip]

On Tuesday, prosecutors at the Oath Keepers trial played several clips of Mr. Rasheed’s recording for the jury. The jurors heard Mr. Rhodes make baseless claims about foreign interference in the election and declare that he would welcome violence from leftist antifa activists because that would give Mr. Trump an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act and call on militias like his own to quell the chaos.

“We’re not getting out of this without a fight,” Mr. Rhodes said. “There’s going to be a fight. But let’s just do it smart, and let’s do it while President Trump is still commander in chief.”

While Mr. Rasheed initially called an F.B.I. tip line to complain about Mr. Rhodes not long after the meeting took place, the bureau did not reach out to him until March 2021, two months after the Capitol was attacked. He also tried to warn other law enforcement agencies, he testified, writing to the Capitol Police that Mr. Rhodes was “a friggin’ wacko that the Oath Keepers would be better without.”

It doesn’t consider whether Shane Lamond, Enrique Tarrio’s MPD buddy who was charged in May with obstructing the investigation into Proud Boy activities in December 2020, tainted FBI’s own understanding of what would occur on January 6.

It only mentions the FBI’s own informants once, describing how FBI’s confidential human sources led the Bureau to believe the number of “protestors” on January 6 would be lower than in November and December — something any passing glance at social media would have debunked.

WFO sent an email that afternoon that appeared to rely only on its confidential human sources and other investigative leads, concluding, “[a]s of today, WFO has no information indicating a specific and credible threat. All [confidential human sources] and Guardians are not indicating anything specific and credible. Most of what WFO is seeing are random chatter with no specificity. […] WFO expects the number of participants to be fewer than the previous times – each time the numbers get smaller.”174

Most importantly, it doesn’t consider how FBI’s decision to pay a bunch of Proud Boys to inform not on the Proud Boys, but on Antifa, guaranteed that FBI would wrongly see things in terms of protestors and counter-protestors. Two witnesses testified at the Proud Boy leader trial that they were never asked to — nor would they have agreed to — inform on their buddies. Descriptions of seven other FBI informants similarly suggest the FBI had tasked a bunch of Proud Boys and friends to narc out Antifa.

If you pay a bunch of gang members to tell the FBI that their largely manufactured adversaries are the same kind of threat, rather than paying them to tell you about the attack on the Capitol the gang has planned, you have tainted your understanding of things at the outset.

And not even the behavior of those with good intelligence on the far right — those very same counter-protestors — led the FBI and DOJ to reconsider that understanding. When anti-fascists didn’t show up, DOJ concluded nothing would happened, not that the people who really did track what the far right had in mind had concluded that January 6 would be something different.

Former Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue also told the Committee that then-FBI Deputy Director Bowdich gave a briefing the morning of January 4th to Acting Attorney General Rosen and Donoghue regarding January 6th, and that while they recognized the potential for violence, they felt “relief” that counter-protesters were not expected to attend in large numbers, as there would likely not be “a situation that concerned us so much, where you would have two different political factions fighting in the streets.”324

The HSGAC Report scratches the surface of how badly FBI did in advance of January 6. It suggests that FBI affirmatively tried to prevent the Federal government from responding with due concern.

But it doesn’t begin to consider how the FBI’s own relationship with the Proud Boys, in which the Bureau deemed the militia that would lead the attack on the Capitol as partners rather than adversaries, guaranteed that the FBI would miss the attack.

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  1. rattlemullet says:

    Is this a clear example of Structural racism? If these tips and open sources were coming from Muslims, Blacks, or Native Americans I can only imagine the armed security measures and aggressive actions that would have taken place. Being from a bunch of white crackers that like to play 1776 in the incorrect imaginations of history it had to managed to be careful with the concern of trampling on their free speech. It is beyond disgusting.

      • Uh Um Okay Whatevs says:

        The structural racism is in the FBI’s consideration of the subjects of the tips, not of those who made the tips. As noted above, one of the tips came from Abdullah Rasheed, who called the FBI tip line about Elmer Rhodes incendiary rhetoric on November 9th (note: not sure why his name is in quotation marks as there’s not any indication that it’s an alias).

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    • Stacey H_28JUN2023_1145h says:

      Spot on!

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    • this!_28JUN2023_1926h says:

      I need to read this site, thank you for a higher perspective.

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    • TooLoose LeTruck says:

      I have to say, I find the use of the phrase ‘white crackers’ offensive.

      That’s a cheap ethnic slur, no?

      As someone who comes from a background that would make me a member of that demographic, I can only say that making rude comments about individuals who come from rural backgrounds is far more common and somehow acceptable than far too many people care to admit.

      While I can understand the frustration and anger people feel around the events of J6 and the all too obvious obvious racial disparities in this country, do you really need to resort to such a trite and ugly label like ‘white crackers’ to make your point?

    • Robbaba says:

      This is the cutting edge of the fascist axe chopping away at our democracy—and really has always been thus. Hiding the facts to give those in power “probable deniably” and shape the government response. It’s just more apparent when the leadership in the whitehouse shares the FBI’s fascist intent. Now I’m not saying EVERYBODY in the FBI is a card carrying Fascist, but the culture within the organization surely seems that way.

      It’s time the Democratic Party makes AntiFascism a permenant, primary plank in its platform—it’s become the fulcrum of inequality and anti-democratic action in our nation.

  2. massappeal says:

    Thanks for this. Having recently read Betty Medsger’s terrific and entertaining book, “The Burglary: The Discovery of J. Edgar Hoover’s Secret FBI”, about the 1971 break-in at the FBI’s Media, PA office and the subsequent unveiling of COINTELPRO and numerous other FBI illegalities, I have to begrudgingly give credit to Mr. Hoover: the institution he built in his own image for 48 years remains, in significant ways, unchanged. https://masscommons.wordpress.com/2022/05/26/the-burglary-the-discovery-of-j-edgar-hoovers-secret-fbi/

  3. Peterr says:

    From the report, as cited above:

    Despite all of that reporting, the FBI summary concluded, “FBI WFO does not have any information to suggest these events will involve anything other than [First Amendment] protected activity” and that FBI had “identified no credible or verified threat to the activities associated with 6 January 2021.”165 This was also despite the fact that the Proud Boys were known to engage in violence, including at protests in Washington, D.C. in late 2020.166

    The words “credible” and “verified” are doing a lot of lifting here, and makes me wonder about two critical question: (1) What steps were taken to try to assess credibility? (2) What was done to seek to verify the reports of preparations for violence that they were seeing?

    My hunch is that “managing the elephant” included choosing not to spend resources trying to vet this information, which gives D’Antuono plausible deniability — “We heard stuff, but nothing that was verified.”

    • emptywheel says:

      There are some other key emails in the report that where FBI departments writing to themselves — pretty clearly CYA.

    • Ravenous hoarde says:

      Guy Reffitt is another canary. I remember being so angry when I found out that his teenaged son had reported him in December 2020 to FBI.

      “But Jackson had already tipped off the FBI in December 2020 after becoming increasingly concerned by his father’s radicalized rhetoric.

      Jackson discovered his father was at the Capitol riot when he began posting pictures of it on the family group chat, he told ABC News in an article published in January. The younger Reffitt said he received a phone call from the FBI asking if his father was at the Capitol, and he confirmed that he was. The elder Reffitt was arrested at his home on January 19, 2021.”

      They had the institutional capability to track him down quickly after 1/6. But as far as I recall, never reached out to the son or connected any of the malignant dots together. I’m still wavering between institutional blind spot or head in the sand on purpose. At best.

      I won’t bother writing what could be worst case. I’m still hoping for recovered USSS texts and finding out why DHS was so ‘useless’.

  4. Rayne says:

    In addition to ignoring/suppressing intelligence leading up to January 6 specifically, the feds completely ignored the build up across the states, treating arms-carrying white protesters appearing inside or hammering on the doors outside of state capitols beginning in April 2020.

    Just First Amendment activity.

    ADDER: The FBI knew from the plan to kidnap and murder Michigan Gov. Whitmer that militia elements had been talking about doing more than just protesting. The complaint against Whitmer’s prospective kidnappers says they were discussing multiple states’ governments — Michigan just happened to be in their backyard. (Of course that tangerine hellbeast’s snotty remark about “that woman in Michigan” didn’t help matters.) See: https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmi/press-release/file/1326161/download

    Did they think it just ended there with the arrest of these conspirators in October before the election? There was surely far more going on but didn’t rise to an actionable level leading to arrests. None of that was tamped down before the election and the Big Lie to follow.

    • Fraud Guy says:

      …heavily boosted by the Second Amendment.

      I recall a lot of commentary around that time that if those “peaceful” protestors had been unarmed, or non-white, they would have been treated very differently.

      • Rayne says:

        They were. You saw evidence of this repeatedly the same year after George Floyd’s murder-by-cop spawned protests across the country against police brutality. So many peaceful protests yet so many violent responses, and so many opportunities for agents provocateur to wreak havoc unchecked.

        • Rugger_9 says:

          Portland and Kenosha might be the best known but they were hardly alone. One thing to consider with the FBI is that they’ve always been right-wing in their outlook, and the 2016 election meddling shows this bias didn’t just reside in policing.

          As for the ‘managing the elephant’ comment, that is precisely the playbook used in Russia, the DPRK, the PRC and other despotic regimes to control the masses. The irony is lost upon the agency, of course. The stonewalling is an indicator that the FBI agents consider themselves above the law.

    • BRUCE F COLE says:

      I’m pretty sure that photo captures exactly what the Founders had in mind when they penned “a well regulated militia.”

        • BRUCE F COLE says:

          “Weaponization of the 1st Amendment” is a good way to put what the SCOTUS has done.

          In the Stand Your Ground states, the actual result is “If I don’t like you I can shoot you — as long as I can claim that you scare me.”

          And there’s the Rittenhouse Corollary: “I can scare you with a war gun and shoot you with impunity as long as I’ve got Right Wing LE on my side.”

    • emptywheel says:

      I still want to go back to D’Antuono’s role in MI. Because he didn’t take credit for that sting. Then got promoted.

        • Fancy Chicken says:

          Oh Rayne I agree; I am white hot with shining anger about this. Heads in the FBI need to roll from this starting with sedition enabler Steve D’Antuono.

          This is an opportunity where all of us can have some actual impact by contacting their Senators and telling them how not only did the FBI actively endanger our country by “managing the elephant” according to it’s own biases, but apparently more than one agent that we know of actively resisted pursuit of Trump and serving warrants to J6 violent defendants, as in the Florida case.

          If any House MAGAts try to defend these folks actions I think I’m gonna lose it.

          I’m actually mad enough I think I might visit my Senator’s office at the Capitol rather than their home office to reinforce the point that the very place was endangered by these FBI yahoos who have tried blaming DCMetro for their acts of omission.

          • CaboDano says:

            I’m reminded of the splendid FBI tracking of 9/11 terrorist cells at flight training schools in San Diego and elsewhere. Move on, nothing to see here. 😞

        • Terduken says:

          Correct me if I’m wrong-headed about the Senator’s local office is staffed with some people who remain to service the constituency when there is a transition. Stabenow retiring shouldn’t create a situation where Michiganders are left with one senator. Peters is on the specific committee but snail mail and telephone have always resulted in return contact within 24 hours from staff. Then the staffers are on the hook. Through GOP or Democratic offices I have received the best responses.

          • Rayne says:

            I know how to contact Peters’ office, thanks. I’ve gotten my share of annoyingly platitudinous letters in response.

      • Ravenclaw says:

        D’Antuono also appeared before Jim Jordan’s Committee to Obscure the Truth a few weeks ago, testifying to the effect that the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago was badly flawed.

        https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/testimony-reveals-senior-fbi-official-expressed-concerns-about-trump-raid

        You’d figure that the officer who downplayed intel that turned out to be an accurate prediction of a deadly, potentially disastrous, attack would be demoted and reassigned to some obscure desk in the basement. Guess the FBI still leans hard right.

        • BRUCE F COLE says:

          Soon after that happened a few weeks ago, Politico published a piece on it with this ‘graph:

          “During his conversation with committee aides, D’Antuono said DOJ wanted FBI agents to immediately use a search warrant to seize documents from Mar-a-Lago, worried that any classified papers there could fall into the wrong hands. But D’Antuono’s team at the FBI’s Washington Field Office wanted to seek Trump’s permission, through the former president’s attorneys, to search the club — pointing out that Trump didn’t even spend his summers at Mar-a-Lago.”

          https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/12/former-fbi-official-details-bureaus-disagreement-with-doj-ahead-of-its-trump-search-00101602

          So he cops the same “Give that Constitution-whacking sucker some slack”-attitude — toward the blatantly obstructive and NatSec-threat Trump — that he did, in the pre-J6 period, to the mob that same motherfucker called in, organized and egged on in order to overturn his election loss.

          Neat tie in!

          The upshot: Seditious fascism deserves some deferential consideration, and who knows, maybe an AG appointment in a year and a half is in the works!

        • John Lehman says:

          … “reassigned to some obscure desk in the basement.”

          ….”my Swingline my red Swingline “

    • Robbaba says:

      A better reference point would be the abandonment of the FBI’s report on home grown right wing violence that was tossed in the can during George W Bush’s presidency. That signaled the extremists with the FBI that congress had their back and encouraged them to repeatedly come down on the side of the far right in every major event since. The bogus “reopening” of the investigation of Hillary Clinton just weeks before the election comes to mind.

  5. BRUCE F COLE says:

    The “fully in sync” description of FBI cohorts, used as a pretext for keeping this intel completely in-house, emits an aroma of “in synch” being code for “all on the same page” as to letting the attack, that their intel was clearly predicting, occur.

    • GSSH-FullyReduced says:

      Wonder if Wray assigned D’Antuono to the same team that cleared justice BeerBong Kavanaugh?

  6. oldtulsadude says:

    Some in leadership positions at the FBI might well watch the movie “Selma” and cheer for the cops.

  7. Spencer Dawkins says:

    I’m probably projecting, but just as a thought experiment, if the FBI had asked Proud Boys to report on Antifa and set out to find Antifa members(!) to report on the Proud Boys, that should have been enlightening (“what do mean, Antifa HAS NO MEMBERS???”).

    I was just a little too young to live through COINTELPRO, although I did pick up a healthy suspicion for governments recruiting citizens to report to the government on other citizens. But if we’re going to do that, a government picking one group of citizens to be your reporters is not a winning plan.

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    • Ravenous hoarde says:

      I was thinking why the flip side of “get antifa to report on the proud boys” hasn’t been reported. The “membership” issue probably does make it more difficult.

      But the rightward inclinations of the institutions probably makes leftist activists nervous I would imagine. Would their “tips” ever even make it through? Or would it most likely be used against then in a court of law?

      Statistically there has to be at least a few lefty CIs right? I’d be really interested to read how their intel was processed and viewed compared to PBs etc.

      Based on that DHS RWA extremism report back under Obama, I’m thinking warnings about the right would never weigh the same. Or be dealt with similarly.

  8. vigetnovus says:

    I don’t know what to make of D’Antuono. I feel like he is behaving like the hear no evil… etc monkeys, and he clearly seems to be aware of what happens to folks like Andy McCabe that cross Trump. On the other hand, he also seems to be hedging his concerns as well, with some knowledge that something bad might really happen. That elephant comment is very very interesting, I could interpret that 2 different ways.

    I’ll note that he only decided to retire after the Republicans took over the house and announced investigations into Jan 6. Whereas Bowditch was shown the door almost immediately after Biden was inaugurated….interesting.

    Something tells me there’s more to the story of D’Antuono, I feel like he’ll either end up being the unsung hero of Jan6, or indicted.

    • emptywheel says:

      To my mind, D’Antuono could just be trying to stay clean enough to be promoted. Or he could be a MAGAt.

      But the way he ran to Jim Jordan suggests an attempt to preempt something.

      • vigetnovus says:

        Maybe he ran to Jordan just to try to preempt investigation into his own actions, deflect the blame onto someone else? Or yeah… he could be a fellow traveler with these guys. I feel like Bowditch, for sure, was put there to be Wray’s minder, so trying to keep some info from Bowditch may have been D’Antuono’s way of ensuring that Bowditch didn’t tip off the J6 cabal to the fact that FBI knew more than they were letting on.

        I don’t envy the position that D’Antuono must have been in. Clearly, his first priority was self-preservation, but was that due to ambition, or because he actually believes in the oath he swore to the Constitution and wanted to limit the chances the coup might succeed?

        It’s hard to know. Not sure if we ever will. Meanwhile, Bowditch is now chief of security for Iger and Disney, which I am very very surprised by. Talk about foxes guarding henhouses.

      • Fancy Chicken says:

        So wait- how did I miss DAntuono was retired and Bowdich already shown the door.

        Before I go visit my Senator is there anything else I should know, or guidance on what to say so I don’t just sound like an angry rube?

        Help appreciated. I want to be effective, not right.

  9. Old Antarctic Explorer says:

    “All [confidential human sources] and Guardians are not indicating anything specific and credible.”

    Who are the “Guardians”? National Guard? Never heard them referred to in that way.

  10. BRUCE F COLE says:

    I have one quibble with Marcy over this excellent rundown and amplification of the HSGAC report, and it’s regarding her conclusion:

    “But it doesn’t begin to consider how the FBI’s own relationship with the Proud Boys, in which the Bureau deemed the militia that would lead the attack on the Capitol as partners rather than adversaries, guaranteed that the FBI would miss the attack.”

    Shouldn’t the last phrase be “dismiss the planned attack”? Their ambivalence toward the flood of alarming signals doesn’t indicate passive negligence, but rather studied ignorance.

  11. Clare Kelly says:

    Marcy Wheeler wrote:

    “If you pay a bunch of gang members to tell the FBI that their largely manufactured adversaries are the same kind of threat, rather than paying them to tell you about the attack on the Capitol the gang has planned, you have tainted your understanding of things at the outset.”

    [snip]

    “But it doesn’t begin to consider how the FBI’s own relationship with the Proud Boys, in which the Bureau deemed the militia that would lead the attack on the Capitol as partners rather than adversaries, guaranteed that the FBI would miss the attack.”

    D.C., Lafayette Square, June 1, 2020…and all across the country.

    “An investigation that went beyond the USPP and included other parties like the Secret Service would help shine more light on these unresolved ambiguities. Unfortunately, the DHS inspector general — who, like the Interior Department inspector general, is a Trump appointee — has already blocked an investigation that would have looked into the Secret Service’s role in the decision to clear protesters.”

    Aaron Rupar
    Vox
    “What the new IG report about the gassing of protesters around Lafayette Square actually says”
    June 11, 2021
    https://www.vox.com/2021/6/11/22527796/ig-report-trump-bible-lafayette-square-protest

    “Esper enraged Trump by publicly stating in June 2020 that he opposed invoking the Insurrection Act— an 1807 law that permits the president to use active-duty troops on U.S. soil — in order to quell protests against racial injustice”

    Axios

    “Can’t you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?”

    ~DJT, according to Esper.

    Chilling.

  12. burnitclean says:

    There were very few counter-protestors on the Mall and the Capitol that day. They stayed away because of credible threats of violence in the comments sections of right-wing sites. It was clear the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, et al were going to be armed and looking for a fight. In the days leading up to the event, I remember thinking “I’m glad I no longer live in the District and if I did I wouldn’t be anywhere near the Ellipse or Mall.” Trump knew his supporters were armed and were no threat to him. How did the FBI miss it? I wish the HSGAC committee could obtain the information that was withheld so they might gain further insight into this.

    • CovariantTensor says:

      “There were very few counter-protestors on the Mall and the Capitol that day. ”

      Whatever the reason, it’s one of the silver linings on J6. Imagine if there had been armed conflict between protesters and “antifa”, giving trump an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act. We could be in an even bigger mess today.

      When I first read Trump’s tweet “…big protest, it’s going to be wild” I assumed there was going to be some kind of trouble on J6, and law enforcement would be prepared for it. The fact that they weren’t should certainly be the topic of more detailed investigation, beyond the GOP talking point “It was Pelosi’s fault!”

  13. burnitclean says:

    Let’s try again since I commented using my too-short name the first time. There were very few counter-protestors on the Mall and the Capitol that day. They stayed away because of credible threats of violence in the comments sections of right-wing sites. It was clear the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, et al were going to be armed and looking for a fight. In the days leading up to the event, I remember thinking “I’m glad I no longer live in the District and if I did I wouldn’t be anywhere near the Ellipse or Mall.” Trump knew his supporters were armed and were no threat to him. How did the FBI miss it? I wish the HSGAC committee could obtain the information that was withheld so they might gain further insight into this.

    • Ravenclaw says:

      The left-wing folk willing to scrap with the Proud Boys and other crypto-fascists didn’t stay away because they feared a fight. They stayed away because they were smart enough to know that their presence would serve as an excuse for the violence and provide plausible propaganda in the aftermath. Heck, even without any civilians being present to fight against the insurgents, their media outlets (looking at you, Fox) still tried to cook up a story along those lines.

      • burnitclean says:

        Correct, it was definitely “don’t feed the bear” which is why it seems curious to me that the FBI screwed this up so badly.

    • Clare Kelly says:

      In addition, many civil liberties sites and threads actively discouraged their readers from attending…in December.

      • Ravenous hoarde says:

        I cane across a twitter feed the other day of someone that is a bit… extra if I may.

        He eggs on the Flynns and talks about qanon. I don’t get my news from him but was surprised at the accuracy of his pre 1/6 tweets.

        He hashtagged it with an on purpose misspelling of “the storm”. And warned anyone claiming to be antifa to stay tf away from the crowds due to credible talk about certain nutbags’ desires to use the insurrection act.

        If someone like that could pretty accurately connect the dots to actual people involved, it’s insulting that the FBI said they had no way to.

        And despite the reports so far, abject incompetence and raging blind spots are their best defense.

        • Clare Kelly says:

          I followed an indie journalist from D.C. who began recording early on J6.

          His thread was flooded with polite, and some not-so-much, requests for him to go home.

          I understood his quandary, i.e., self protection v. recording for posterity, but was relieved when he heeded the advice.

    • Anna da Milano says:

      I asked on this site a long time ago “why were there no counter protestors that day?” and was grateful to get the answer you explained: they had better intelligence AND got the word out, along with local governments. They did a better job than the FBI. But isn’t it a tough job to distinguish credible threats from the usual BS, plus the FBI guys had to fear sounding a false alarm and getting chewed out by their bosses?

  14. Molly Pitcher says:

    As the Roman poet Juvenal said “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”, who watches the watch men ?

    Given the current make up of Trump appointed inspectors of various departments, and the stonewalling of the Senate’s investigations, how does a thorough house cleaning of the FBI, DHS and the Secret Service occur ?

    It feels like there are sleepers scattered throughout the government, just waiting for the next election.

  15. Doctor My Eyes says:

    I usually try to steer clear of speculation, but I can’t get out of my head a clear idea of the blood bath we would have seen if the rioters on January 6 had been black. This situation is beyond disgusting and fundamentally at odds with the stated ideals of our government. I see no reason to split hairs: in the US, law enforcement is institutionally aligned with white supremacy and against liberals. This glimpse into internal communications is more readily understood in this context. The only constraint is on how blatant they feel they can be in expressing this bias, and this constraint has been eroding steadily. Is there a more stark example of privilege?

    • Ben Soares says:

      Indeed. There is no doubt things would have been different. We did get to witness a policeman put on a clinic. He could have shot that kid and got away with it – and he knew it . I put that policeman and his performance up there with any of Jabbars , Jordan’s , Ali’s or Jesse Owens …. At least we all got to witness that.

  16. David B Pittard says:

    I am wondering if there is a paralell with the long-game Federalist hijack of the Supreme Court – i.e., a strategy to ensure law enforcement, especially federal (FBI, SS, BP) are staffed with those who steer toward the radical right (enough to make a difference, as it seems happened on J6). Focusing on these individuals is entirey proper, but could they merely be the tip of iceburgs?

    • drhester says:

      Almost finished with Aig’s book “King, A Life” about MLK. Since the 60s (and maybe bf) the FBI has had a hard on for spying on Lefties. Not just MLK for his dalliances, but people close to him who were seen as “socialists”… Apocryphal or not J. Edgar Hoover forbid his driver from making left turns. Some say it was because his car was once hit when it made a left turn. Others that it was b/c of his bias.

    • Hug h roonman says:

      Here’s one!

      Both my grandfathers were NYPD. Back in the day there was widespread support for limiting public access to firearms (particularly Handguns) from Law Enforcement across the US, especially in Metro Areas. Then the NRA began its decades long shift from a Firearms Safety Advocacy Group to Political Lobbying on behalf of manufacturers and against Gun Control.

      For decades now the NRA has spent piles of money making itself indispensable to Law Enforcement Firearms Training and Facilities. They now can also count on robust membership donations from rank and File Law Enforcement.

      The relationship between Law Enforcement and the NRA has become a big obstacle to meaningful Gun Control Legislation.

      https://www.thetrace.org/2020/07/the-nras-unshakable-support-for-police/

  17. Doctor My Eyes says:

    The implications of the phrase “manage the elephant” keep sinking in. It demonstrates a fundamentally anti-democratic view. For one thing, it objectifies the decision-making apparatus of the government as wholely other from these agents, something separate and apart to be managed. It is not the job of these agents to manage the government; their job is to present intelligence and analysis to ELECTED officials so that they can “manage” according to their sworn obligation to the law and their duty to their constituencies.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Sadly, that’s been part of the DNA of the Bureau since J. Edgar Hoover birthed it. A little housecleaning would seem in order.

        • Doctor My Eyes says:

          This conversation coming at a time when the Putin wing of America is trying to destroy the FBI along with every other tool we have for protecting the integrity of the government. The difference is, we want to build an effective FBI.

    • Ebenezer Scrooge says:

      I find the FBI’s overall conduct shocking. But that’s not because D’Antuono tried to manage upward.

      “Manage the elephant” is standard practice in any bureaucracy, public or private. People have agency, and most subordinates think they know their job better than their boss does. (They’re often correct!) Dumb managers tell their subordinates what to do and expect them to do it. Smart managers know that their job is to make their subordinates want to do what the manager wants done.

      D’Antuono’s sin was what he wanted to manage the elephant for, not that he wanted to manage the elephant.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Credulous and Ebeneezer Scrooge rarely go together. As you say, D’Antuono’s goals are suspect. But so is the extent to which he tried to manage what he told government ministers well above his pay grade.

  18. nord dakota says:

    Matthew Alcoke should talk to the domain admin about getting his display name corrected.
    A coke, Matthew R. is somewhat unfortunate.

  19. EricMariposa says:

    More echoes of the Iran Contra Mutineers:

    From the Tower Report: “In addition, on August 31, 1985, Poindexter established a private method of interoffice computer communication with North, preventing normal screening by the Executive Secretary of the NSC.” (page 149)

    From Senate Report 216: “According to North, both Casey and Poindexter had told him to seek some type of secure communications support. North turned to the National Security Agency for secure communications equipment. The National Security Agency provided KL-43 encryption devices to North. On January 15, North gave KL-43s to the principal members of the covert operation: Secord, Gadd, Steele, Castillo, Quintero, and William Langton…” (page 65)

    Not to mention REX 84: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4797423/user-clip-north-questioned-rex-84

  20. Fraud Guy says:

    The problem with “managing the elephant” is that, hopefully, the elephant never forgets.

  21. West Coast Castaway(GG) says:

    There was a definite(maybe on purpose)failure by FBI and others to identify the threat(s) associated to J6 riot….100%

    Also the massive failure in delaying investigating Trump over his before and after j6 actions….I have a theory about the latter.

    DOJ/FBI/ and other authorities didn’t know how to proceed with such an event involving a former president, or didn’t want to involve themselves in the actions of a former president…..

    I believe the powers that be hoped DJT, after his riot, his whining, his failed court cases, his debunked election fraud theories ran their course he would go away……But he didn’t, DJT doubled, tripled down, he still bellows on about election fraud, along with disparaging America/DOJ/Military..Generals, Joe Biden and everything else while supporting/praising Putin and other nasty leaders…

    I feel DOJ and all other prosecuting authorities were prepared to leave Trump alone and move on if he went away, or came down from his delusions…However, after it became apparent DJT was going to continue to attack Democracy, attack the truth while inciting future violence they had no choice but to go after him.

    DJT is, in my opinion….A Monster…..and it boggles the mind on his level of support…Fyking scary

      • West Coast Castaway(GG) says:

        That was a good read….Kinda lends credence to what I said…

        I still believe if DJT went away quietly the J6 investigation in to his actions would have been quietly shuttered….and yes, that’s wrong and completely opposite of “equal justice for all” standards..

        Being president buys you that privilege(GW Bush and Fake Iraq/yellowcake BS comes to mind, nobody pursued Bush)

        But an ex-president ripping the country apart from within, with an avalanche of lies and violent rhetoric….They had/have no choice but to convict……I still believe Trump will be tried, convicted…However, don’t think he’ll ever serve time in jail….Every legal trick/appeal/motion will be used by DJT to run out the clock…Until he’s dead or too ill to be jailed..Bone spurs and all.

        Cheers

        • Clare Kelly says:

          I can’t say I agree with your opinion:

          “I still believe if DJT went away quietly the J6 investigation in to his actions would have been quietly shuttered”

          …Yet I definitely respect and will defend your right to said.

          Marcy Wheeler wrote:
          “This is an incredibly aggressive approach. As I’ve said, I think DOJ would prefer to find a way to get Trump to plead out, however unlikely that would be.

          The sooner they share documents with Trump and Nauta’s lawyers, the sooner they might be in a position to persuade Trump how bad this will look if he goes to trial.

          But note the two caveats: At least one of three known defense attorneys has not yet submitted his SF-86, the list of foreign contacts needed to obtain clearance. At least one of them — Chris Kise, who worked for Venezuela’s government — may not be eligible.

          So one other underlying context to this is that until Trump can find cleared attorneys, he may be responsible for delays that would result in a trial during the primary season.”

          [I may have edited in paragraph breaks. ‘Apologies in advance to emptywheel if I did. I was multitasking]

          Sláinte

          • West Coast Castaway(GG) says:

            Has the DOJ, the newest administration, or any incoming administration, the three letter agencies, the media, the legit media, the general public at large…….Name one time in US history where a first term president who lost reelection, then went on to muckrake, destroy democracy, lie hundreds of times per day, on social media, a man who incites violence on Truth Social which ultimately ends up on Twitter, Facebook, getrrr, Gab, podcasts…..This is new, this is something DOJ, FBI, and other authorities never had the deal with……..Trump’s praise of Putin, Kim Jung Un, IX….If a political rival or public voice like Trump’s spoke that way in China, Russia, N Korea…..He’d be silenced via window, tea or ammo……

            How does DOJ stop the Trump toxicity?…..The last resort is/was to indict him for crimes…Albeit late, they came to the only available means to stop him.

            The making of a martyr …..Does anybody have a guidebook on how not to make a martyr?

            • Clare Kelly says:

              Re:
              “ The making of a martyr …..Does anybody have a guide on how book not to make a martyr?”

              The closest I can find is the prescient one, written by Merrick Garland in his previous capacity at DOJ.

              As you note,
              “This is new, this is something DOJ, FBI, and other authorities never had the deal with…”

              Imho, having an experienced, ‘first principles’ AG with a judicious demeanor and a similar DAG, in combination with a successful, laser-focused SC, at least gives democratic principles a running start.

              I question your premise that they ‘came to this late’.

              I do hear you, however.

              • Clare Kelly says:

                Mea culpa.
                I accidentally misquoted you.
                *” Does anybody have a guidebook on how not to make a martyr?”.

              • bmaz says:

                Always good to hear from Planet Clare. You have yet to admit I was right about the J6 Committee, but I’ll be here waiting.

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                  • bmaz says:

                    What you can “bite” is my ass Planet Clare. This will never go your way. So, please, screw off.

                  • bmaz says:

                    Lol, “sullying Marcy Wheeler”? You have participated less than a year, here. I have stood by Marcy for 16-17 years, and will continue to do so. Nobody needs your stupid and insipid help.

                  • earlofhuntingdon says:

                    Ersatz moderator? Bullying Marcy Wheeler? You have no clue. Please get one. If not, there’s not enough popcorn in Michigan.

                    BTW, rugby players eat their dead. The idea of Marcy being bullied by bmaz is painfully ignorant.

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        • CovariantTensor says:

          I’m not necessarily salivating for Trump to spend jail time. I would be perfectly content with a deal in which he pleads guilty to something that disqualifies him from the WH like, for example, attempting to overthrow the government. Any reasonable (i.e. non-MAGAt) person knows that’s what he did, it’s just a harder legal case to make than the clear Espionage Act statutes he violated. He has vowed to fight this “witch hunt” to the end, but if the reality of spending time behind bars hits him he could be singing a different tune.

    • Clare Kelly says:

      Thank you for the link.

      “He told the jury he first joined Twitter in 2015, where he shuffled through numerous accounts as moderators struggled to keep up with his stream of hate-inflected disinformation.”

      Digital Gish gallop.

  22. FL Resister says:

    What has clearly not happened is thorough investigation and reporting of the flaccid multiple government agency response to credible, numerous violent threats to the safety and security of both houses of Congress and the vice-president, before, during and after January 6, 2021.
    We still do not have in-depth credible accounts for the multiple systemic failures that put our entire legislative body in harm’s way.
    Innate prejudice and appearances are not enough.
    Jack Smith and the DOJ are investigating the crimes. We want to know who failed, what went wrong, and why. The public deserves more specific answers.

  23. Molly Pitcher says:

    Savage Librarian you were ABSOLUTELY right, the second woman in the Bedminster tape IS Susie Wiles !!

    ABC 11 just posted this on their site and broadcast it. You have an ear ma’am !!

    https://abc11.com/donald-trump-classified-documents-investigation-susie-wiles/13438139/#:~:text=Susie%20Wiles%2C%20one%20of%20Trump's, September%20of%202021%2C%20sources%20said.

    Rayne, I don’t see a question mark, so I put a space before September. Correct this if need be.

  24. Critter7 says:

    Let’s not forget Donald Trump’s role in this. His targeted firings of gov’t officials who displeased him combined with his mob-boss style of communications in telling the remaining officials what he wanted is reported to have intimidated Chris Wray. How many rumors were flying following election day but prior to J6 that Wray was on the way out? And Chad Wolf with DHS, Jeff Rosen with DOJ, and Chris Miller with DOD were all in acting roles after duly appointed agency heads had been fired – or quit just a few days prior (Barr). In the runup to J6, Trump’s sympathy for those coming to DC on his behalf was obvious – after all, he had issued the call. Recall that he wanted to call out the National Guard not to protect the Capitol but to protect the those demonstrating for him from the phantom leftist mob.

    A more aggressive stance by the agency heads would have helped their people see the need to protect the Capitol more forcefully. But Trump’s style of intimidation likely had an effect on that.

    In no way do I wish to excuse the parties whose failures to act are highlighted here – just recalling the context, and recalling the role of the Big Fish in creating that Big Stink, the failure to protect the Capitol.

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