Trump Confesses that the United States Is a Client of Russia

There’s a great deal of normalcy bias in the reporting on Trump’s capitulation. NYT reports (based on watching the Sunday shows) that Marco Rubio and Steve Witkoff “hint” that Putin will make concessions to reach a plea deal with Ukraine, without questioning whether those are anything but personal inducements to Trump (like a Trump Tower) and without noting that Wikoff is incompetent to understand what would be a real concession in any case. WaPo describes that Putin was willing to offer security guarantees, without noting that guarantees without NATO are useless (and one of the tools Putin has used to lull his imperial victims in the past).

Curiously, one place that is not suffering from normalcy bias is WSJ’s editorial page, which notes what is being shared with “friendly media” (seemingly excluding WSJ from that moniker) are “worse than worthless.”

The President went into the summit promising “severe consequences” if there was no agreement on a cease-fire. He left the summit having dropped the cease-fire with no consequences in favor of Vladimir Putin’s wish for a long-term peace deal as the war continues. Mr. Trump took new sanctions on buyers of Russian oil off the table.

Mr. Trump also said the burden is now on Ukraine to close the deal. European leaders told the press that, in his conversations with them, Mr. Trump said Mr. Putin demanded that he get all of Ukraine’s Donetsk region, which would mean that Ukraine give up its main line of defense in the east.

White House leaks to friendly media suggest Mr. Putin promised that, in return for Donetsk, he’ll stop his assault and won’t invade other countries. No wonder Russian commentators and Putin allies were celebrating the summit’s results. Their President ended his isolation in the West, made no public concessions, and can continue killing Ukrainians without further sanction.

Mr. Putin’s promises are worse than worthless. He has broken promise after promise to Ukraine and the West. This includes the 1994 Budapest Memorandum promising to defend Ukraine against outside attack, and multiple Minsk agreements. He wants Donetsk because he would gain at the negotiating table what he hasn’t been able to conquer on the battlefield. It would also make it easier to take more territory when he or his successor think the time is right to strike again.

The silver lining is that European leaders say Mr. Trump told them Mr. Putin had agreed to accept “security guarantees” for Ukraine. The suggestion is that the U.S. might even be one of those guarantors, albeit outside NATO. But Mr. Trump provided no details.

For guarantees to have real deterrent effect, they would have to include foreign troops in Ukraine. Kyiv would need the ability to build up its military and arms industry.

All this is distracting from the question not asked at the Sunday shows yesterday: Why Trump’s team walked out of their meeting with Putin looking like they had seen death.

Let’s recap what got us here:

  • Some weeks ago, Trump gave Putin the 50 days the Russian president wanted before he would come to the table. Then, as Putin kept bombing, making Trump look weak, Trump shortened the timeline to ten days. But instead of imposing the sanctions that Lindsey Graham had spent months crafting, Trump instead sent Steve Witkoff to Moscow. Witkoff, by design (because this is what happens when you choose to put someone with no relevant expertise or temperament in charge of negotiating deals), came back promising deals he couldn’t describe, it’s just not clear for whom.
  • On an impossibly short notice, Trump arranged to host Putin on former Russian land. Going in, Trump promised that if Russia didn’t deal on a cease fire, there would be tough consequences. Europeans and Volodymyr Zelenskyy smelled a rat, but didn’t succeed in convincing Trump how badly he would be manhandled.
  • And manhandled he was. Sergei Lavrov showed up wearing a CCCP jersey, Putin displayed undisguised contempt for everyone. And Trump walked out looking ashen. Putin treated Trump like a menial client.
  • Trump told Sean Hannity that he shouldn’t have done his interview right afterwards, and I wonder if he had not — if Trump had not felt it necessary to immediately declare a success, ten of ten — then Trump’s team might have tried to find a way out. But whatever Trump then said to Zelenskyy and European leaders made them realize things were worse than they anticipated.
  • Trump sent out Rubio and Witkoff on the Sunday shows to basically defer, making transparently bullshit claims of concessions from Russia. But today, Trump is making it clear that he will made demands Zelenskyy cannot accept — the Crimea recognition Trump floated to get elected in 2016, and no hopes of NATO membership — even while suggesting that Zelenskyy will have to make all the concessions.

Effectively, Putin ordered Trump to make Ukraine capitulate. Hell, maybe he even gave Trump a deadline.

And I would be unsurprised if Trump does what happened in February, after he bullied Zelenskyy, but for which Trump later blamed Pete Hegseth’s incompetence. I would be unsurprised Trump withdrew US intelligence sharing, without which Ukraine cannot defend itself, possibly even halting the sale of weapons to Ukraine.

But the implications of all this are much larger. These demands, particularly the demand that Ukraine turn over the part of Donetsk that Moscow has never conquered, would leave Ukraine defenseless. Conceding these demands would make Zelenskyy vulnerable (indeed, one of Russia’s puppets in Ukraine is already challenging his leadership). Ukraine really is the front line of Europe — of Moldova (with elections scheduled in September), of Czechia (with elections scheduled in October), of the Baltics, where Putin has been staging for some time.

And remember: one of the promises Trump floated during the election, one of the promises that — Nicolay Patrushev said — is why Russia helped reinstall Trump is that Trump limit intelligence sharing with Europe, all of it. Europe relies on that intelligence to combat Russia’s influence operations within Europe. Without that intelligence, one after another country would fall to a pro-Russian party.

Since returning to office, Trump has dismantled every tool the US created to win the Cold War. It doesn’t need to be the case that Trump has stashed his Administration with actual Russian agents — narcissism and venality explain much of what we’re seeing — but there are somewhere between two and twenty Trump advisors who I have good reason to suspect are Russian agents. Over the past three years, right wingers have forced the tech platforms to eliminate the moderation that had provided visibility on Russia’s influence operations. As I laid out, Trump dismantled US Russian expertise and the investigative tools created to hunt and prevent Russian influence operations in the US. Meanwhile, he is willfully bankrupting the country based on plans largely adopted in joint venture with Putin client Viktor Orbán.

Trump has made the United States powerless against Russia, and I expect he will be instructed to make Europe powerless against Russia as well.

This is the point I’m trying to convey: All of Trump’s power depends on his continued reinforcement of the disinformation that Russia used to get him elected the first time. Without Russia’s continued indulgence, the foundational myths to Trump’s power would crumble. Particularly amid the willful destruction of US power, it would provide cause — and maybe even the will, among right wingers — to expel and prosecute him.

The hold Putin has over Trump is existential for Trump. And unless we can expose that, the US will increasingly become a mere satellite of Russia.

Trump is not making America great. He is gutting America.

This is not just about forcing Ukraine to surrender.

Trump has surrendered. And going forward, it is only going to get worse.

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  1. Mike Stone says:

    Putin has played Trump for the stupid egotistic person he really is. And yet, his supporters (with one neuron in their brains blinking on and off at 1 minute intervals) think he is a genius at promoting peace. I cannot think of a similar situation ever in world history remotely similar to this situation.

    Someone please release the Epstein files. Even if it is a illegal act, just get it out there for everyone to read.

    • P J Evans says:

      His supporters can’t remember before the Soviet Union fell, or they wouldn’t wear those tee-shirts that say “better Red than Dem”. (It seems to demonstrate lack of afterlife, as Goldwater and Kennedy don’t seem to be haunting the GOP and DC.)

      • misnomer bjet says:

        Many of them probably do remember, subconsciously at least, the rise of the glorification of Russian organized crime coming out of the 80s-90s.

        I think that our intelligence agencies (under Bush 1 & William Casey’s influence in particular) had something to do with that. Also ‘America’s Mayor’ Rudolph Guliani, during his days as prosecutor.

  2. Rugger_9 says:

    Exactly, and FWIW this also explains the GOP redistricting efforts to avoid any oversight by Ds where hard questions would be asked in public hearings under oath.

    Why does Convict-1 and his minions hate America and its foundational ideas so much? It’s not just greed but something visceral with this crew.

  3. wa_rickf says:

    Ukraine is Trump’s best chance at a Nobel Peace prize. Giving the farm away will not earn him the prize. Z has smart people in his posse this time. I’m sure EU leaders will remind Trump that if things play out as some are speculating, there will be no prize for him.

    If I were Z, I would say giving up land will guarantee automatic NATO membership by Ukraine. THEN, the ball will be in Putin’s court.

      • wa_rickf says:

        A no vote should invite impeachment of POTUS Trump and the American public should demand that of Congress.

      • Raven Eye says:

        Trump has not cast a “No”. For Trump to have a vote on Ukraine joining NATO, Ukraine would have to give Russia all the territory they now hold during Trump’s term of office. NATO won’t accept a member state that does not have control of its own territory.

    • Patrick Dennis says:

      One hopes that the Nobel Committee members have a clear enough conception of history to distinguish between a durable negotiated peace and a cowardly sellout.

      • WSDarterr says:

        The Nobel Committee is in Norway, and know that they are in Putin’s crosshairs, somewhere near the top of his “next” list.

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        • misnomer bjet says:

          Putin’s probably been fluffing Trump about the peace prize in part as one way to menace Norway on the subject of neutralizing the pressure of European dependence on Russian supply.

  4. I Never Lie and am Always Right says:

    Trump’s actions bear a resemblance to a well-known 20th Century “keeper of the peace,” Neville Chamberlain.

    • emptywheel says:

      They don’t.

      Chamberlain at least was serving his country, he thought.

      There’s little of that with Trump.

      • I Never Lie and am Always Right says:

        I’ll defend my choice of words. Trump is taking steps to appease Putin, a world leader who, objectively, has demonstrated that he has no intention of being satisfied with what he’s currently asking for if he gets what he’s currently asking for. If Putin gets what he asks for, he will take more later, without asking, just as Hitler did. Trump is facilitating the result desired by Putin, instead of standing up to Putin. That bears some resemblance to what Neville Chamberlain did.

        As you note, Trump’s motivations for doing this are far worse than Chamberlain’s motivations for doing what he did. Thus, the resemblance bertween Chamberlain and Trump is superficial, but the resemblance exists.

        My own view that everyone should be shouting at the top of their voice that Trump is the Neville Chamberlain of our times, taking actions that place the world, including the United States, in jeopardy. That is a concept that the idiot press corps, along with a population that is not as focused on Trump as the community here is, can focus on. It’s a good “marketing tool” IMO. Of course follow up with “Putin’s Puppet,” etc.

        The name Neville Chamberlin carries with it an aura and image of weakness, impotence, etc. Hanging that aura and image around Trump’s neck is useful, IMO.

        • Xboxershorts says:

          Except TFG is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Kremlin. I know of no evidence that Chamberlain was co-opted.

          It’s a meaningful difference. We have a died in the wool Manchurian candidate in TFG.

          And, I suspect, the entire GOP is compromised too.

    • Chetnolian says:

      And we should recall that at that’s time, as now, there was no guarantee that the USA was going to be on the UK’s side.

      • grizebard says:

        True. Worth bearing in mind that in 1938, the US internationally had nothing like the preeminent position it has taken for granted since 1945. Back then it was politically impotent by choice (isolationist) and underfunded militarily (2nd rate at best). Like all peaceable countries, its usual spending priorities were directed elsewhere than planning for aggressive war, unlike the autocracies. When the crunch finally came, the US (kick-started by some hard-earned British tech know-how) had to undertake a Herculean industrial effort to “get up to speed”. Of course, it had the underlying capability to do it, finally found the necessary clarity of thought and will to act, and achieved what was needed at scale, fast and well.

        Trump is rapidly reversing all that, in servitude to another autocrat with bloody hands. America has a Russian president now, and Trump is only his lame sidekick. High time people woke up to that reality. And do something about it.

  5. jecojeco says:

    We put a felon & sex offenders back in the WH how can we be surprised that he collaborates with a war criminal to betray our country and reneg on security “guarantees”.

    Zelensky & Euro leaders are wise enough not to rely on empty promises from these 2 notorious criminals. They will probably have to go it alone. Europe has to recognize that trump will abandon them at the worst possible moment if the opportunity arises.

    trump is on a mission to destroy the US, mainline GOPers better wake up and stand with those who want to revive our democracy

  6. Upisdown says:

    Americans would never accept a president who surrendered to both the Taliban and the Soviets without that POTUS getting hardcore gaslighting assistance from the media.

    • Xboxershorts says:

      This bears repeating. So…

      Americans would (should) never accept a president who surrendered to both the Taliban and the Soviets without that POTUS getting hardcore gaslighting assistance from the media.

      If we don’t fix our Goddam media, we are fucking FUCKED.

      • Wild Bill 99 says:

        Fixing our media leads into fixing the influence of wealth on our society. Its going to be a long, uphill battle, much like Ukraine’s situation.

  7. Verrückte Pferd says:

    Does the rare to me slowness of the site have anything to do with somebody’s reaction to the subject matter?

    • harpie says:

      I am wondering the same thing, Verrückte Pferd.
      Also, the VIDEO is “age restricted and only available on You Tube.”

      • john paul jones says:

        Probably because the title was flagged by YouTube’s AI, ie, words on a verboten list.

        AI is big, dumb, and slow, lies constantly and is only concerned with itself. It knows how words are put together, but it doesn’t “understand” anything.

        • gruntfuttock says:

          ‘AI is big, dumb, and slow, lies constantly and is only concerned with itself. It knows how words are put together, but it doesn’t “understand” anything.’

          Hmm, so almost exactly the same as the current president? Mind you, he’s struggling with the words thing so you’d probably be better off with an AI in charge. /s

  8. PedroVermont says:

    What a mess. Might NATO be dissolved because ofTrump?

    As correctly mentioned above, without Ukraine NATO membership security guarantees are unreliable, at best. And as Trump has backed away from the full-throated support Biden gave to Zelensky and Ukraine, Europe has largely met the challenge while quietly developing a skeptical view of NATO. Can the other NATO countries depend upon the US if they are threatened by Russia? To answer my own question, no I doubt NATO will wind up in the dumpster, mainly because the EU is looking ahead to 2028 and a more reasonable American President returning to the WH.

    Let’s see what emerges from the meetings today.

    • zirczirc says:

      Any article five guarantee is worthless with Trump in office. And, unfortunately, given our voting public’s willingness to put Trump in office twice, the guarantee is shaky if he’s not in office. We will never be as trusted as we were before he took office.

      • PedroVermont says:

        During NATO’s 75 years, Article 5 has been invoked only once- September 12, 2001, and we pray that will be the last time. I would not want to test NATO though, especially during the Trump years. When Finland was admitted 2 years ago Putin was not happy and made his usual threats. In general, I think NATO has been too pensive in their support of Ukraine.

        As to international ‘trust’, that’s a complex topic with a century of human failures, and triumphs.

      • Joe Orton says:

        Trump has only won against women. As long as the Dems put up a male nominee then Dems stand a decent chance at winning.

      • grizebard says:

        I think (hope!) that Europe is finally coming to realise that its future security can’t possibly ever depend on American elections. (Or electors.)

  9. GKJames25 says:

    The original sin and Trump’s concern with it are puzzling. If it’s to do with promises in 2015/20216 about lucrative business in Russia, who among his supporters cares? The same goes for working with/through sanctioned banks, oligarch money laundering in US real estate, not to mention for Russian help in the 2016 election. Even if Putin called in his chits openly, what impact would it have on Trump’s political fortunes in the US? Republicans (and the “vigorous” executive-obsessed Supreme Court) would cover for him.

  10. zirczirc says:

    “And Trump walked out looking ashen.” Trump was in office for four years. He’s been in office a second time for 7 months. He was running for office during the interregnum. “Ashen” suggests Putin was wielding a stick rather than a carrot. What new threat could he have issued?

      • Reader 21 says:

        Exactly—Ghislaine’s dad was a Russian mobster. Putin’s Russia is a wholly-owned mafia state (h/t John McCain). Anything Epstein filmed—and he reportedly had cameras everywhere—Putin has.

  11. xyxyxyxy says:

    Russian crude oil flows to Hungary and Slovakia via the Druzhba pipeline were halted on Monday, officials in Hungary and Slovakia said, with Budapest blaming a Ukrainian attack on a part of the network.
    Hungary’s Foreign Ministe Szijjarto wrote on Facebook that he had talked to Russian Deputy Energy Minister Pavel Sorokin who told him that experts were working to restore the transformer station he says was hit in the latest attack, but it was unclear when deliveries would resume.
    “This latest strike against our energy security is outrageous and unacceptable,” Szijjarto wrote. He did not say when or where the attack took place.
    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/2025/08/18/russian-oil-flows-to-hungary-and-slovakia-halted-after-ukrainian-attack/

    • rattlemullet says:

      Crude oil, is a legitimate military target durning war. I suspect that Ukrainian drone attacks on oil refineries, storage facilities, pipe lines and pumping stations has decreased oil production in Russia to the point of Russia needing it for war and domestic use sans the big buyers like India. Perhaps Hungary and Slovakia should not count on oil supplies from an unreliable war mongering despot and look to develop renewable within their own borders to decrease the need for blood oil. Winter is coming on and Russia anti-drone defense systems is almost non existence.

  12. Frank Anon says:

    I just don’t know how there can be any doubt as to kompromat on Trump at this point. The private ride in the Beast, the order of speaking, the reversion to the surrender demands, and the overall demeanor of Trump at this point give me no other potential option that doesn’t involve casting Trump out of his actual light. I would add in the unfamiliar task of trotting out surrogates to fake-sell the plan, along with brief and blunt social media posts. Its Russia, Russia, Russia, and how do we stop the treason – which is absolutely valid if this is true.

    • PedroVermont says:

      What I find curious is he maintained the sanctions team Biden placed on Russia, and which Putin desperately wants removed. No one on our side would be shocked if they had been relaxed or eliminated altogether for no good reason.

      Assuming Putin has some sort of leverage over Trump, we can expect sanctions to be at least softened soon even if there is no ceasefire.

      • Reader 21 says:

        PedroVT—I don’t know about that, in fact a highly credible writer (Anne Applebaum, I think) has written pretty much the opposite (that he’s made the sanctions so toothless as to be basically worthless), and she scolds the media for not digging deeper and just taking his claims at face value.

    • wa_rickf says:

      @ Frank Anonsays August 18, 2025 at 11:16 am

      ….or it can be all chalked-up to amateur hour and incompetence.

      • Frank Anon says:

        That would actually be a relief, because it leaves the hope that any damage could be mitigated somehoe

      • wetzel-rhymes-with says:

        A claim is supported by evidence, but evidence itself has a quality. The quality of evidence is called its warrant. That’s Toulmin logic. Over the years, Marcy has developed and presented a mountain of evidence very suggestive that Trump is compromised by Russia, from Flynn’s back channels to Trump Tower Moscow and more, although Marcy never makes a claim that isn’t justified, and not a single piece has been strong enough for the NY Times or WSJ to definitively claim Trump is compromised by Putin. This is even though the secrets they shared and kept from the American people like the Trump Tower negotiations are prima facia evidence that Putin had compromising information on Trump. However, still it’s not enough, especially not at this point, because for Trump to still feel in danger from Putin would require something more, something worse than a pee-pee tape, I think.

        I think that’s right, but there is the difference between an attribution and a claim. because even though you don’t have to make a claim, and so you don’t if you can’t justify it, you always have to make an attribution. Why does Trump behave the way he does vis-a-vis Russia? How do we attribute it? Is it dispositional? Is it situational? He’s compromised. There really is no other way to attribute it, not that I can see. Of course if you express an attribution then it’s a claim, but it’s a weak kind of claim, so it becomes what everyone with knowledge believes but what nobody responsible will say. It even functions as fascist propaganda because it instills a kind of learned helplessness, at least in me, every time Trump chants ‘Russia Russia Russia’.

  13. OldTulsaDude says:

    With high confidence, I believe Putin showed Donny the receipts that would put him in prison, most likely from all the money-laundering done for Russian mobsters. Little other than the threat of real prison time seems to shake Donny’s facade.

    • zirczirc says:

      Putin may have receipts, but with this SCOTUS, this DoJ, and this congress, I can’t see him having anything that would land Trump in jail. Even with a dem majority, there’d be no way to get 67 votes to convict trump in the Senate. Trump is legally safe. Now, maybe Putin’s hackers have some way of pressing a few buttons and making all of Trump’s money disappear?

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        The vote counts are only relevant in an impeachment context. I don’t think Trump is safe at all, though the Supreme Court has dangerously narrowed the scope for his criminal liability.

        But the Epstein files, for example, may reveal continuing conspiracies or sex crimes under state law. Some states have extended the SOL for the latter.

        Plus, there is the potential for civil liability. His grift will have insulated him from the normal financial pain from that, but not from the humiliation and psychic pain he finds threatening. Those are also among the reasons he will fight to stay in the WH until he’s taken out feet first.

        • xyxyxyxy says:

          Klasfeld: In July memo from DOJ, it was disclosed for the first time a number of victims, that Epstein harmed more than one thousand people…vastly larger than previously reported….through DOJ reviewing data and physical evidence…Epstein estate has disputed that claim to avoid a class action lawsuit from the victims.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg3RCuns3Go

      • Wild Bill 99 says:

        I lean toward 1 of 2 possibilities: 1, Putin has direct evidence of Trump engaging in pedophile behavior or, 2, direct evidence that Trump’s fortune is wholly based on Russian money-laundering rather than business acumen: he is a pervert or a fake, possibly both.

      • Termagant says:

        Something that would make Trump and his whole team “ashen”: evidence that Putin has control over enough reps and senators to make impeachment and removal a threat.

  14. ExRacerX says:

    When your cankles are swollen from venous insufficiency
    With a piss-bag strapped to your leg, so your pants you won’t pee
    As the dementia and narcissism swirl in your brain
    And your Russian boss has you neatly boxed in—

    You might view surrender as a viable option.

      • xyxyxyxy says:

        I just realized, it took me almost 20 years, that if you flip “Plain” letters around you get Palin.
        So to redo your quote, “A Pint of Plain is your only man” you get “A Pint of Palin is your only woman”?
        How silly of me.

        • Benji-am-Groot says:

          Ah yes – History of the World – Part 1.

          In these times would that be The Felon Guy calling Goebbels light Miller?

          “Oh, piss-boy!!”

  15. Chris Perkins says:

    Putin has brought Trump to heel twice now publicly. Helsinki and Anchorage. Occam’s razor would suggest that whatever it is, that power, that threat, that it’s the same leverage in both events. Everyone on this forum seems to have theories about what that power might be, but they mostly revolve around kompromat. Putin will reveal Trump is guilty of such and such crime. Sure. That’s obviously true. But would that really deter Trump? He’s successfully waltzing charges of pedophilia this very moment, so I just don’t see what information Putin could possibly reveal that Trump wouldn’t successfully counter as AI-generated-fake-news-hoax.

    So, setting aside kompromat for a moment, then what are we left with? Real threats to his fortune? To his kids? His person?

    • wa_rickf says:

      I see Trump as purposely poking the bear, to become a martyr. (Firing top FBI officials. Firing top Pentagon officials. Firing 15% of the federal workforce. Eliminating mail-in ballots. Signing the BUB)

    • Reader 21 says:

      I might take slight issue with the premise—while hard core MAGA would blame the kid’s parents*, if a video surfaced of him with a child—his win hinged on winning more than just deep MAGA. Folks like Joe Rogan, et al—they’re not down with protecting child predators.

      But your larger point is excellent—there are well-sourced reports that he’s deeply in hoc to the Russia mafia, when even Wall Street wouldn’t lend to him because he was such a deadbeat. And Putin’s Russia is nothing if not a mafia with a gas station. Children aren’t off-limits to them—they’re a target.

  16. Savage Librarian says:

    I to I

    One was low and one was high
    There they were I to I
    All American apple pie
    Flung right into a wise guy’s tie

    From the cleaners’ vast spin-dry
    It comes out with an ashen dye
    It’s been altered by its own supply
    Now where is Thune’s hue and cry

    Will he give a gung-ho try
    to repackage the great big lie
    Like a coward who won’t pry
    will he too Russify?

    • Savage Librarian says:

      Thune was listed as one of the 7 who MSNBC reported on about this visit to Russia. Here’s an excerpt:

      The problem has less to do with seven congressional Republicans going to Russia for the 4th of July and more to do with what they did while they were there. – 7/5/18

      In addition to Shelby, who chairs the Senate Appropriations Committee and has limited foreign policy responsibilities, the official congressional delegation featured Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.), Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.), Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.), Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), and Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas).

      https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/seven-gop-lawmakers-make-misguided-trip-russia-msna1119676

        • Wild Bill 99 says:

          Perhaps they were there to insure their futures? One might worry regarding of what arcane knowledge they are in possession that would encourage such a soul-selling.

  17. Georgia Virginia says:

    It wasn’t just Trump who was said to be “ashen,” it was Leavitt and the rest of the team. So whatever threats Putin made were not just one-on-one while riding in the Beast, and not simply to expose Trump himself. Threats of another cyberattack on federal websites? Heavy hints that US intelligence networks were compromised and agents’ lives were at risk?

    More information will emerge shortly, I think.

    • Joe Orton says:

      I’ve been wondering the same thing. My thoughts are- they witnessed proof that the ‘hoax’ is real and that threatens their dreams of Christian Radical complete takeover? Or, with Trump, I lean toward something more basic and base, photo/video of Trump with underage girls- not dark and grainy but clear and indisputable, and Trump not denying their validity. Or, sex related blackmail on Trump AND his staff’s Christian Dominionist’s leaders (since the Dominionists play the long game then they must have plans for after-Trump so whatever blackmail his staff was shown must have been about their group personally to make them go ‘ashen’).

    • Wild Bill 99 says:

      Perhaps Putin simply pointed out Trump’s total lack of cards and went on to explain how things are going to go down and that nothing can deter his program, least of all Trump.

  18. P J Evans says:

    A lot of people don’t remember or never learned what life was like in the USSR, and still is for many people in Russia. I’d recommend the alt-history novel “Powerless” by Turtledove. (It’s a version of North America where the CSA survived the Civil War and the US disintegrated. As a result, the USSR runs all of North America, in the form of several “People’s Democratic Republics” which are anything but.)

      • Savage Librarian says:

        And one of the great tragedies of Reagan is that he was blind to his own hand in political maneuvers that eventually contributed to a capitulation to Putin. Ironically, in addition to that, Trump has a pivotal staff member who also worked in the Reagan administration.

      • Mike from Delaware says:

        Another more recent Russian joke:

        Every morning a man walks by the local newsstand, stops and briefly scans the newspaper, then walks on. One morning the clerk asks the man what he was looking for.
        The man responds: “I’m looking for an obituary.”
        The clerk says: “Oh, those are in the back of the paper.”
        The man replies: “Not the one I’m looking for.”

    • xyxyxyxy says:

      As I wrote in another post, reminds me of, I think it was marketing class, about Soviet times.
      Taxi drivers would sit around and do nothing because they got paid by the state no matter what. So the state decided to encourage them to pick up fares, they would pay them by the distance they traveled. Of course the taxi drivers would drive empty cabs up and down the streets without picking up any fares.

      • P J Evans says:

        “As long as they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work.”

        (I worked with a woman from Poland. And one who had escaped from Hungary, and one from the PRC.)

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      No, I don’t give Trump that much credit. I see him as one person in a long anonymous line of fellow adulterers in Hell’s foyer, in front of Rowan Atkinson’s Toby and his small guillotine.

      • BRUCE F COLE says:

        I see him as Yeats did:

        Surely some revelation is at hand;
        Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
        The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
        When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
        Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
        A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
        A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
        Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
        Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.

        Title of course is “The Second Coming,” and we have the pre-millenial Baptist, Left Behind enthusiast Mike Huckabee sending posts to Trump from Tel Aviv saying God is telling him to bomb Iran. “Slouching toward Bethlehem,” indeed.

        The indignant desert birds are the MAGA. Someday, “MAGA” will have the same visceral impact upon reading or hearing it as “Nazi” does today.

    • JR_in_Mass says:

      How about Putin is Sauron and Trump is Saruman?

      We have plenty of candidates for Lotho Sackville-Baggins, Wormtongue, Bill Ferny, Harry Goatleaf, and the Ruffians.

  19. Raven Eye says:

    One thing about Trump Deals is that he treats the Deal itself as the objective, not the result or product of the Deal. In my mind that’s why he’s so much into stiffing and suing vendors, partners, and contractors. He gets a Deal and there is no need to actually comply with the full requirements of the Deal. That’s why he can’t understand businesses, who deal in planning and event horizons five to ten years out, and which get upset with the uncertainties* of his tariffs, grift, and meddling with private enterprise.

    Luckily, “The Art of The Deal” is available in a Russian translation. Putin and his advisors don’t even need to break a sweat to read it. And so they have nice beautiful tool with which to play him – again and again. And, indeed, they did. Putin knew that that the Russian “deal” in Anchorage would be providing Trump with no Deal at all. And, following that, Trump would fly back to the U.S.A. to cook up the Deal that Putin wanted all along. And Putin didn’t even need to file a suit against Trump.

    *Risk: The effect of uncertainty on objectives (ISO 31000).

  20. BRUCE F COLE says:

    The NATO/Zelenskyy meeting at the WH is on, and I can’t watch it now, but I hope Zelenskyy says “I hope you notice, Mr President, that I am speaking English to you and everyone when I am in your country. I hope your citizens also notice that.”

    It’s not about condescension, it’s about courtesy when you are fluent in your host’s country, speaking (assumedly) to the people of the nation your are visiting.

    • BRUCE F COLE says:

      …and someone should point out that part of Trump’s exuberance when talking privately to Putin was probably his feeling of being special because Putin deigns to Speak English with him.

      Another note regarding Lavrov’s CCCP shirt at the AK Summit: It was approaching the explicit statement, “We were driven to our knees, but we are now back on top.”

      And how did they do that? By vigorously aligning themselves with the Russian Orthodox Church whose malign enthusiasm made this invasion possible. Trump’s got an amalgamation of similarly whacked out religious thugs working for him, and the so-far-untested cohesion of that amalgamation is a key striking point for anti-fascist resistance. E.g., do the Evangelicals really want to be followers of an Opus Dei hanger-on when Ecumenical Don shits the bed?

      “It’s the Theocracy, Stupid.” It rears its head everywhere you turn.

      • BRUCE F COLE says:

        …an Opus Dei hanger-on — who’s explicitly sponsored by a gay centibillionaire who will control AI?

        • Matt___B says:

          Somebody ought to make a “Know your Oligarchs” card deck, a la Iraq War. Insert a piece of gum and 5 cards, wrapped in cellophane – collect them all! Right next to all the packs of Trident at every supermarket checkout counter. Proceeds to benefit local pro-democracy orgs. Could be worth a lot in 20 years!

      • P J Evans says:

        I suspect you have that backwards – the Russian Orthodox Church has always supported the tsars, under whatever title the tsar is using.

        • BRUCE F COLE says:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union

          Religion was tolerated in the *officially atheist* CCCP, and certainly the Russian Orthodox Church was given the most lenient treatment. Their most useful-to-the-state purpose, which indeed drives their current function as cheerleaders for the demolition of Ukrainian culture, was their antipathy toward the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, “Autocephalous” as the upstart Ukrainians brazenly deemed themselves. Eventually, the majority of the ROC’s presence in the USSR was in UKN, and that did serve the communists’ need to tamp down the upstart Ukrainians. But tolerance for the sake of that utility was the limit of their relationship with the Commies.

          But when that Commie edifice fell, the remnants of the Politburo and police state almost immediately turned to the Mother Church of Russia as a conduit for reconstitution of an oligarchy, which has now morphed into a functionally Tsarist animal. It can be inferred that much of what drove Putin to invade UKN was that same Russian Ortho antipathy for the Ukrainian Church which snubs the headship of the Russians, both ecclesiastically and politically, and which, with the official gov’t sanctioning of and partnership with the ROC (with concomitant increase in church attendance), serves nicely as an agitprop function for Tsar Vlad, prior to and since the invasion began.

          There are many similarities between Putin’s relationship with the ROC and that of Franco with Opus Dei, which itself is now ascendant here in Trump’s orbit in the personnel of Project 25, whose theocratic schemes we’re currently being subjected to.

          Ah, “Christianity,” you gotta love it.

  21. Matt Foley says:

    Trump said something like “One day the war will end.” Reminded me of when he said “I’ll be right eventually. I said day covid will disappear.” In his mind he’s never wrong, he’s just waiting to be proved right.

  22. Matt Foley says:

    Trump says he wants the killing to end. Wasn’t saying that when thousands a day were dying of covid because of his antivax rhetoric.

    • wa_rickf says:

      Because in April 2020, when Jared told Trump that mostly minorities were dying of COVID, Trump stopped caring.

  23. Matt Foley says:

    Zelensky DESTROYED Brian Glenn (Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body’s Boyfriend). “You’re wearing the same suit from last time.”.

  24. Dave Karson says:

    Thank you for this post. “The hold Putin has over Trump is existential for Trump. And unless we can expose that, the US will increasingly become a mere satellite of Russia.” “But there are somewhere between two and twenty Trump advisors who I have good reason to suspect are Russian agents. ” Any chance you could talk about who, or if not who, why you suspect? Thanks, Dave
    FYI: I found this to be an interesting overview of Trump’s “mishandling” classified information back in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

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    • wa_rickf says:

      I suspect Tulsi is one. After all, she DID have dinner with Putin in Russia with other conservative American politicians present.

  25. wa_rickf says:

    I was thinking over the weekend, Trump (…and Pompeo) negotiated the end of a war with the Taliban. How did that work out for the Afghan people?

    …and speaking of wars. Trump made-mention today in the Oval Office of ending six wars this year. Dude is incredibly full of himself. I only wish that one of the leaders had burst out laughing at that asinine statement.

  26. Cicero101 says:

    The most alarming information for me in this post is that Europe is totally dependent for its survival on access to US intelligence. Total dependence explains why Europe has failed to move decisively to support Ukraine; it cannot without Trump’s approval, and Trump cannot approve anything Putin vetoes.

    • Rugger_9 says:

      Once Convict-1 showed his hand in the first term, the EU doubtless proceeded on developing their own capabilities independent of US components, and they’re talented enough to pull it off. Let’s see if there is an uptick in Ariane launches for satellites.

      Sweden is itself a rare earth hot spot (many of the elements are named for towns there) so materials would be less of a problem.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      The Dutch, for one, would be surprised that they are “totally dependent” on the US for intelligence.

  27. phichi174 says:

    provocative piece–compact, cogent and compelling.
    my guess: the Felon has systematically been giving away to the the dog walker all of the US’s intelligence capabilities and assets. it was during the orange turd’s first term that we lost SolarWinds (2019)
    https://www.fortinet.com/resources/cyberglossary/solarwinds-cyber-attack
    earlier in 2016 (when Obama was in office), we lost Vault-7 tools
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/politics/cia-wikileaks-vault-7-leak-report
    plus, back in March the US already threw in the towel in the cyberwar against ruzzia
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/02/politics/us-cyber-operations-russia-suspend

    bet karolying leavitt turned ashen because she was shocked by the violent and humiliating way dobie spoke to her superior, you know the piece of shit installed in the white house.

    it’s still quite surprising that the MSM carried the water implying that the Felon’s words have any import or truth. oh well, better luck next time.

    thanks for the great analysis. certainly cuts through the crap being peddled by the MSM

  28. Mudcat99 says:

    Could the ‘ashen faces’ on Trump and staff be in response to Putin’s demand for the return of Alaska?

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  29. Andrew Thompson says:

    I am deep in th weeds on a lot of this stuff but the one thing that caught my attention in the article was “there are somewhere between two and twenty Trump advisors who I have good reason to suspect are Russian agents.” a few of them I can suss out no problem (Gabbard, Gorka) but let’s have a go shall we? Who are the most likely suspects? Would love to know what others think.

  30. Christian Knudsen says:

    He knows they cheated like hell, and he can prove that Harris actually won the election. And he threatened them all with releasing it.

    Either that or he made Trump blow him.

    Maybe both!

    • Rayne says:

      This is over the top, just hyperbolic venting. Unless you have a source let’s bring it back to reality.

      Welcome to emptywheel.

  31. MSanthrope says:

    Per nytimes – purge of expert national security staff with
    ties to the analysis of Russian malign influence operations.
    “President Trump revoked the security clearances of 37 current and former national security officials, many of whom worked on Russia analysis or foreign threats to U.S. elections, according to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence….snip…
    the actions announced on Tuesday were a deeper cut, pushing far into the national security establishment.
    At least three current senior officials at various intelligence agencies, all with reputations for nonpartisan work, are among those who lost their clearances and their jobs.
    They included Shelby Pierson, a senior intelligence official who warned Congress about Russian meddling in the 2020 election; a senior C.I.A. analyst currently serving undercover; and Vinh X. Nguyen, a senior National Security Agency data scientist… Snip…
    Current and former officials said they were particularly distraught by the removal of Mr. Nguyen, a gifted mathematician, from the N.S.A.
    Mr. Nguyen was mentioned in an article in Real Clear Investigations that noted his work for the director of national intelligence at the time of the 2016 election assessments. The article was highlighted on social media by Sebastian Gorka, a Trump administration national security official.
    Mr. Nguyen is an expert on quantum computing, data science and cyber issues. He has been working on artificial intelligence projects for the agency. Former officials said the loss of his expertise could set back the U.S. government’s development of key technologies.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/us/politics/trump-security-clearances.html?unlocked_article_code=1.fk8.4x0U.ZCJY3Lt8sOCU&smid=url-share

  32. Challenger says:

    I very much agree, “Trump is not making America great, he is gutting America” All the while building a massive ICE army, to do what?

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