Butt Cracks and Beer Bellies: Is Trump Failing on Immigration because ICE Creates Negative Spectacle?

Is the spectacular nature of Stephen Miller’s ICE goons — and the ease with which that can go viral — one of the reasons Miller’s core issue is weighing Trump down?

Greg Sargent has been focused on Trump’s collapse on immigration for months, encouraging Dems to attack on it. And G. Elliott Morris has been tracking the details of that in polling, which also goes back months.

A new report from Gallup out this week finds a significant increase in the public’s liberal attitudes on immigration. The highlights of their report are here:

  • 30% of Americans want immigration decreased, down from 55% a year ago
  • A record-high 79% of adults consider immigration good for the country
  • There’s been a meaningful decrease in support for building a border wall, mass deportation

But aside from Morris’ argument, in June that the inflection point was the Kilmar Abrego case, I’m not sure either has unpacked why immigration has become such a bad issue for Trump (though some of it stems from Latinos souring on Trump), a trend that has continued even as Abrego’s case has gotten far less attention.

I’ve been formulating this hypothesis in conjunction with two posts I’m writing, one about Stephen Miller’s strengths and (very considerable) weaknesses, and another about the pivot to crime that Miller is attempting in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s death. Stephen Miller is effectively running the government, Trump’s Wormtongue, his issue is immigration, but the issue is dragging Trump down.

Miller fancies himself as a propaganda genius and he certainly has had his successes. The speech he wrote for January 6 almost got Mike Pence killed, after all!

But something that has happened with immigration has undercut Miller’s normal propaganda success on his most cherished issue (in reality, as I’ll show, Miller has serially failed with immigration, but succeeded wildly last year).

I’ve written and spoken about the import of mob trolls to Trump’s political rise. Stephen Miller has been central in that use of trolling. Democrats have utterly failed to respond functionally, usually leaving them unable to reach broad swaths of disaffected Americans or counter extremist pro-Trump propaganda like Miller’s.

Miller’s propaganda strategy to boost ICE has played to some of that:

  • Non-stop DHS posts — almost all full of lies — that focus on the few spectacular cases of migrant crime in attempt to brand all migrants with the crimes of a few (ironically,  Alex Padilla was calling out this strategy when Kristi Noem’s goons assaulted him)
  • An attempt, which has largely flopped, to brand ICE squads in spectacle or to set up spectacular events (like the invasion of McArthur Park in Los Angeles, which looked ridiculous)
  • The use of troll mobs and right wing propagandist ride-alongs to eroticize ICE patrols in cities
  • The attempt to brand Democrats as pro-crime

As noted, several of these efforts have largely failed. The ICE spectacle, often featuring Kristi Noem as the figurehead, often look ridiculous and have repeatedly led to blowback (such as her staged visit to CECOT or a recent Chicago raid that resulted in the detention of two American citizens, along with some others). The attempt to eroticize ICE raids often looks pathetic.

Meanwhile, while Miller attempts to create spectacle to eroticize ICE goons, bystanders continue to capture his goons rolling around on the ground violently abusing people, and in this particular case, desperately losing his gun. They capture people shaming ICE agents. A latest video shows a food delivery guy riding away after 8 heavily armed men chased him for saying something. And those — not Miller’s fancy new trucks — are what go viral on social media.

Those viral posts are not the only reporting that makes Miller’s goons unpopular. There really is a lot of good individual reporting on the individual stories of people sucked up in the dragnet, the kind of persistence that enabled Abrego and the Venezuelan concentration camp deportees to reach broader political salience (and with it, political headaches for Trump). Legal reporting makes the larger system visible and magnifies outcomes. While journalism is hollowed out, both the rising outlets and traditional media are still telling this story well, often persisting with the stories of individuals sucked up in the ICE dragnets that emphasizes their humanity and reveals their legal outcome. And there are some exceptional journalists at outlets we’ve long given up on.

There are, to be sure, some wraparound policy issues that the Democratic Party needs to push better, focusing on the way that Miller’s ICE raids have contributed to housing market problems and food inflation, or visualizing what government could be spending all the money wasted on ICE, for example. There are some NGOs and, especially, policy work from CATO that should be magnified (this was actually something Pramala Jayapal did in a recent shadow hearing).

But all of it starts from the people — both private citizens and independent journalists — witnessing, filming, and posting ICE thugs. They not only create an inexcusably endless supply of new stories of abuse to expose, but they fill the social media space Miller would prefer to fill with staged ICE spectacle. Rather than eroticized violence, what gets seen is spectacle that makes his goons look fat, incompetent, and pathetic.

Butt cracks and beer bellies.

The spectacle Miller’s poorly-trained goons have created has filled the media space he would otherwise fill with staged brown person domination porn.

None of this solves the political problem of a fascist building power off the demonization of immigrants. But the unpopularity of it creates political opportunities.

So it’s worth mapping out what combination of mobile witness and compelling journalism has made that possible.

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  1. Zinsky123 says:

    Great post and lots of great links to explore, as well. I completely agree that people are not loving the way ICE has been conducting itself. The nightly news is beginning to look like episodes of HBO’s Watchmen, with the ‘good guys’ in masks and brutality being inflicted on helpless, unarmed people just trying to make a living. Not cool. Stephen Miller is a sick little creep who apparently would say and do outrageous things even in high school, just to get attention and instill fear. I hope there is a Nuremberg after this Trump madness is over, for sadistic performance trolls like him.

    • Magnet48 says:

      I’ve chosen to call him Twitch for his “eulogy” at Kirk’s funeral. Someone described it as flexing his neck as if it was a manly act. It just exemplified his broken mental status to me.

      • klynn says:

        Try watching S. Miller giving media sound bites on slow motion. It makes for really good comedy. He looks like a cross between Max Shreck’s Dracula portrayal and Megamind had a baby. Someone could make a great comedy channel of just Miller in slowmo.

  2. Savage Librarian says:

    Kudos, Marcy, for pointing us to and giving credit to the excellent journalists out there. Persistence pays off. Great post in many other respects, as well. Looking forward to the follow ups.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      Speaking of great journalism, I just finished reading Katherine Stewart’s new Money Lies & God, an excellent–both anecdotal and thoroughly researched, while incessantly compelling–account of how those holding big money exploit culture wars around religion to get political outcomes that favor their plutocracy.

      Stephen Miller’s propaganda, in essence, is a war on truth. On facts. On our eyes and our ears. Which is why the testimony of all those citizen (and freelance journalists’) videos matters so much. In the case of LaMonica McIver, it may make the difference between a Big Lie* being victorious or the truth winning.

      *The biggest of all now: that all opposition to MAGA is demonic and must be eradicated by lethal force.

  3. Spencer Dawkins says:

    Thank you for using the word “eroticize(d)” four times in this post. Miller is far past simple sadism, and anyone who hasn’t noticed our country is being run by a fetishistic sociopath needs to have their nose rubbed in that repeatedly.

    • Rayne says:

      I figure it’s just a matter of time before Trump demands another military parade, one that looks more like Egypt’s police recruits’ display.

      Egyptian police recruits parade, October 2020

      • Scott_in_MI says:

        With both the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence and the 25th anniversary of 9/11 coming up next year, I’d say it’s all but certain.

        • Eschscholzia says:

          The national media didn’t cover it, but until a few weeks ago there was a “plan” to hold another big Trumpfest for the 250th anniversary of the US Navy this November https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2025/09/13/trump-air-show-navy-anniversary/ Trump’s team came to San Diego to plan something where Trump could reign from the fantail of the USS Midway as a parade of all active classes of ships sailed down the harbor and back, and examples of historic and active Navy aircraft plus the Blue Angels would fly by. A spectacle made for TV and political ads. But, it turned out that would have required shutting down the commercial airport in San Diego for 3 or 4 hours for several days of practice before the event, plus longer and with a larger security impact the day of the event. And, there isn’t really turning radius for a line of ship south of the bridge, nor room to safely stage ships for even a 1-way parade of ships.

          The Navy celebration is now apparently scheduled for Philadelphia Oct 9-15 https://www.homecoming250.org/ Expect sailors (in dress whites, not bare-chested) manning the rails for the parade, but maybe they’ll blare YMCA to make up for that. I’ve heard no official word whether Trump will attend. Only a handful of ships will parade up the Delaware River, none larger than a San Antonio class LPD (25000 t displacement) will be in the parade: they won’t be towing the USS New Jersey past a reviewing stand. Also no word of whether they will attempt to pull that off even during a lapse in appropriations shutdown.

          On a less amusing note, in the last few weeks all NPS employees were directed to take Incident Response training. They’re going to need hundreds if not thousands of rangers & staff to deploy to help at events next July in the National Mall, Independence Hall, Minuteman, and other Revolutionary War sites. Between the 20-25% reduction in NPS staff and the realization that these events _might_ not draw as many volunteers as detailing to parks along the line of totality for the last 2 solar eclipses did, they appear to be enlarging the pool of detailees.

        • RMD De Plume says:

          that moniker does double duty—a pejorative slur on women by insulting a presumed gay man as a “Miss”…while using the feminine appellation on gay persons….because there’s nothing so contemptible as being referred to as a woman

          words matter.
          do better

        • wa_rickf says:

          As a gay man, that “pejorative” is quite acceptable in my culture and my community – especially when used on a man who is obviously in the closet and whose voting record harms and certainly does not advance my community. For the record, in my community that “pejorative” has NOTHING to do with woman – and has everything to do with appreciating and celebrating hyper-masculinity which was alluded to in the picture above.

          I’ll be more careful with sharing my community’s vernacular with you in the future.

        • Rayne says:

          Reply to wa_rickf
          September 30, 2025 at 8:49 pm

          You’ll need to come up with a different dig at Sen. Graham because he and Lindsey Halligan share the same first name, even the spelling.

        • P J Evans says:

          RMD De Plume says:
          September 29, 2025 at 5:37 pm

          It’s sure nice that you appointed yourself arbiter of speech and moderator.
          Now stop telling the rest of us what to do.

      • misnomer bjet says:

        Coming up: Trump et al plan some sort of fake wrestling convention (keyword being ‘fake”) on our WH lawn. Their rendering for the layout looks to me like a giant blow-up kiddie bouncy room. Will adult reporters in socks be allowed?

        We have a knock-kneed president who couldn’t change a tire of his life depended on it, telling our admirals & generals that he’ll ensure merit-based selection today (with no cameras on their faces).

  4. P J Evans says:

    ICE in Chicago, trying (and failing) to catch a guy on a bike, possibly a food delivery guy.
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9IQnfogjkg4
    And then there was the ICE goon who dropped his firearm, had the ammo fall out of it, then stuck the firearm in his waistband. (He was obviously out of shape and apparently not well trained.)

    • rosalind says:

      sadly, i fear in 2 weeks the goons will announce the bike rider’s arrest, after they track him through CCTV footage and run facial recog…

      • Terry Salad says:

        The Chicago bicycling community is very well organized and connected. They will protect this guy. He’ll also get a lot of free drinks.

      • Thequickbrownfox says:

        He told ICE that he wasn’t a U.S. citizen. He might very well be, and if so, what would he be arrested and charged with?
        I actually think this is a good idea. Everybody should yell, “I’m not a U.S. citizen” every time ICE shows up, and if they make a move run like hell. Waste their time. Throw sand in the gears. Gum up the works.
        When troops show up, toss boxes of garbage bags in front of their feet and say “Do something useful”.

    • posaune says:

      I know that intersection well (where the ICE goon dropped his gun). Completely absurd to try to arrest someone in an intersection at rush hour! I’m sure those commuters sat through at least 10 light changes. Just insane, even without the incompetence! But the incompetence was spectacular!

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        I too know that intersection. I used to work at DeLeuw Cather, a few blocks up the river. It did not look like rush hour to me; the chasers had far too much free road space to run around like dumb kids on a playground. And you can’t pull a U-y there on a bike during rush hour.

        But as a Chicago girl born and bred, what struck me was the absurdity of posting officers in the middle of entrepreneurial downtown. Most of the folks they’ll catch on Michigan Avenue are tourists, and on Wabash it’s working folk like I used to be or much more important than I was.

        This was strictly a circus for Fox News viewers. A reality show, typically (for the genre) lacking in anything like reality.

  5. SunZoomSpark says:

    I am pretty sure all members of the administration, White, Black, Brown and Orange are descended from immigrants. I would like to see a flood of short videos hosted by Lady Liberty of their bios with some clever tagline like,
    “Why should you get to stay but we can’t?”
    Followed by masked goons behaving horribly.
    OR
    You wear masks because you know what you are doing is wrong.

    Another thought, on the shutdown, float the idea to make remove the masks, wear a badge, and follow due process, a negotiating point and check the polls

  6. Memory hole says:

    ICE fascistic assaults on random people doesn’t look as good in reality as in the imaginations of MAGA supporters.

    Another reason for Trump losing support for his immigration policies is more central to more people’s lives.
    We, in general, don’t have anywhere near enough people willing or able to do the jobs that need to be done. (At least for the wages offered.)

    This is just anecdotal, but in the area I was raised, there were several mills that were pretty much the prized jobs for everyday people. With one of these you could raise a family, buy a house, and retire comfortably.

    Now all of these places are massively short staffed. Trying to hire people all the time. Most new hires don’t stay. This puts incredible pressure on those who have been there for decades. They are forced to work overtime continuously to cover for vacancies.
    The new hires that seem willing to work, even extra hours, are the Spanish speaking immigrants.

    Once forced to integrate in the workplace, many Fox “News” watching MAGAts are seeing that these immigrants are just hard working people. And that we need them and more.

    • Harry Eagar says:

      You bring up a topic that occupied much of my time as a business reporter. Where I was, the workplace was either a cannery or the fields that supplied it, and nearly everybody had worked in one or the other, at least during high school summers, and all had positive memories.

      But they were unable to persuade their children or grandchildren. It drove me nuts trying to figure out where the disconnect came in.

    • Rayne says:

      What’s the hourly wage for entry level? I’m betting it doesn’t support the cost of local average rent as it did back in the day.

    • Magnet48 says:

      I observed something many years ago when positive descriptions of latino workers were first being promoted. I had moved to rural MD from south Jersey & suddenly was surrounded by busloads of Latino nursery workers when I went shopping. They seemed furtive to me but looking back I think it was more to escape being noticed since no one knew what to expect. Then I started hearing about what hard workers these individuals were, & how much they loved their closeknit families. Then I started seeing beautiful interactions among Latino fathers & their children, Latino mothers & their extended families. So much depends on the perceptions of one another.

    • Mike from Delaware says:

      My long-awaited vacation to Portland begins this week. My plans to drink some fresh hop beers, forage for mushrooms and do some salmon fishing might be on hold. I got an email from ANTIFA HR, letting me know that I’m considered essential personnel and may be pressed into duty while I’m there. Thing is, I don’t know if I should pack my home or away uniform. If I show up to an ANTIFA protest with the wrong jersey, I’ll never hear the end of it.

      • Rayne says:

        Are you seriously going to Portland? If you are and you’ve got the time and ambition to help, I may have a favor to ask consisting of taking photos.

        • Mike from Delaware says:

          I am. I’m hanging out in Portland proper next Monday. I hope to visit the Tea Garden and some local sites. Let me know what you’re after.

          [Thanks! /~Rayne]

        • Estragon says:

          Rayne feel free to contact me directly. I have lived in PDX for 15 years.

          [My schedule is super busy today and tomorrow, will try to squeeze in an email to you with details. Thanks for volunteeering! /~Rayne]

      • Estragon says:

        Japanese garden is awesome! Foraging should be pretty good, we are getting some rain today. If you’re going up to Mt Hood, the rule of thumb this time of year is to focus your search at about Trillium Lake elevation.

        • Mike from Delaware says:

          Thanks! Fortunately my son lives there and will guide me to some of his spots. Not going to Mt Hood this time, although I’m hitting Hood River for the Orchard and Ale festival.

    • chrisanthemama says:

      Here’s one of the local papers’ reporting. I live just outside of Portland where it was a glorious fall weekend. My FB page is full of scenes of the so-called urban hellhole (farmers markets, boating on the Willamette River, biking around town, sidewalk cafes, peaceful protests on the downtown waterfront, etc.). Yeah, we have our problems with homelessness, and the protests at the ICE HQ are slightly messy (though entirely under control by the local PD). https://www.wweek.com/news/2025/09/28/trump-assumes-control-of-the-oregon-national-guard-oregon-sues/

      • Rayne says:

        In contrast, this is what national and state news showed in 2020 from Portland — this is what I think is being used to manipulate Trump about ICE and the National Guard:

        https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/gallery/portland-protests

        https://www.oregonlive.com/galleries/6JTNG23TENDKZBEQ2HW4JPQVP4/

        And I will bet the materials likely being pushed hardest at racist Trump are those in which persons of color appear most prominently. It’d be an easy trigger.

        • chrisanthemama says:

          Absolutely: trump is being shown footage from 2020’s George Floyd protests (by S. Miller, no doubt). Our governor Tina Kotek spoke with trump over the weekend and told him that that’s not what is happening here now. And then OR’s AG sued the federal government for federalizing the OR NG. Hope that works. Here’s a Reddit thread with photos of war-torn Portland: https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/1nrxdat/post_your_pics_of_warravaged_portland_here/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=post_title&embed_host_url=https://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2025/09/social-media-reacts-to-trumps-war-ravaged-description-of-portland.html

        • harpie says:

          I agree about what is being used to trigger TRUMP, and as we’ve been discussing at the Marcy/Sandler post, Miller and the media seem to be driving.

          Thanks for those galleries. Uggg.

        • S.R. in PDX says:

          Rayne. I’ve lived in Portland since 2013. In the later-10s, it was convicted far-righter Enrique Tarrio and the Proud Boys who were stirring up trouble; the cops and mayor did little to tamp that down. In 2020, Tarrio took a backseat when Trump sent fascist ICE, and never-identified masked secret police, into Portland. In 2020, our city was a trial run for their kidnappings, nightly cop-rioting, assaulting and less-lethal shooting of protestors. The problems were in a small area downtown, but of course Trump baby-whined that the city was being destroyed, burnt down, a hellscape!

          As you have pointed out many times, the media loves to spread his disinformation, covering Portland in the most sensational way, rarely pointing out that it was Trump’s goons who were causing the problems (look up “George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon” on Wiki). Now, the media is at it again. They love a good click-bait. They can go a whole article repeating Trump’s lies-by-Truth, and never clarifying that there’s no problems in Portland, and certainly not “war-ravaged.”

          For a reality check… @nytimes : Demonstrators have been camped outside the ICE building in SW Portland for several months, rarely numbering more than two dozen. Brief, isolated skirmishes between protesters and federal law enforcement have been confined to a few blocks.

          Sometimes the entire protest is a guy in a chicken suit.

          Portland isn’t a hellscape. It’s a lovely afternoon here.

          And yet, Trump is sending in the National Guard. Because he needs to cover up the Epstein story, and flex his big macho-man muscles.

  7. Error Prone says:

    Homan is ham-handed, while not well spoken. Add to that the bag of $50,000 story, which has not gotten the coverage it deserves, and that means top down, ICE has problems. (One sample link” https://apnews.com/article/tom-homan-bribery-investigation-justice-department-461cc66955e2ba25445a9bf931250580)

    They keep the gentleman, and say he did nothing wrong, and he never took the money, but in any event, it is a closed investigation. As best as liquid facts apply, it seems he did take the money but it was not bribery because he had no firm official position at the time and it was futures trading – trading on potential but not having any real pro quo to offer at the time. Something like that, but very liquid.

    • Rugger_9 says:

      It’s bad enough in its own right, but let’s also remember these twerps proclaim themselves as the ‘law and order’ party. Never mind the report today of a SC state rep in the local ‘FREEDOM’ caucus busted for five counts of kiddie porn including alleged travel to Colombia (20-year liability on each count, see C&L). This is on top of the routine hijacking of intellectual property (such as copyrighted music) from artists who don’t much care for MAGA tenets. And then we get to the ICE vices, including rolling up Americans in their sweeps and disappearing over 1000 detainees from Alligator Alcatraz. Nice recordkeeping, Tom, can you be sure they’re not running amok?

      Noem for her part may just get called as a witness in the raids, and apparently fast tracked a pier repair for a donor cardiologist in FL continuing a long-running sleaze campaign.

  8. David F. Snyder says:

    The Financial Times has an informative article on Miller posted in its Weekend Edition. S. Bannon likens Miller to a Prime Minister for Trump. Gavin has a new nickname for Miller (https://www. yahoo.com/entertainment/ celebrity/articles/gavin-newsoms-brand-nickname-stephen-170937918.html), which could be useful — though let’s not underestimate how dangerous this man is to representative democratic-republicanism.

    I’m looking forward to Marcy’s report on Miller. Hopefully the wait is not too long.

    • Magnet48 says:

      My name for Miller, Twitch, is descriptive, Newsome’s name is insulting to his feefees but looks like homage. Brilliant.

  9. Cheez Whiz says:

    Its important to remember that Miller’s empire is built on a lie, that there are tens of millions of “illegals” doing “illegal” things that need to be swept up and thrown out. Whether he believes this is irrelevant since he acts as if he does, and it is an article of MAGA faith. What’s being captured in those videos is the collision of that faith with reality. The core of MAGA philosophy is to bend reality to their desire, and that only works in media, not reality. The more reality intrudes, the more the whole con falls apart. That’s why those videos are important.

  10. GV-San-Ya says:

    Tough guys think masking is cool now??? I thought masks hurt their feewings and made it hard for them to bweathe through their widdle noses.

    Oh wait… that was five years ago.

    (Maybe we should’ve provided COVID masks with skull-jaws on them for the “bro” set.)

  11. Ebenezer Scrooge says:

    I have a fairly high opinion of Steve Miller’s ability. (I similarly have a high opinion of Adolf Eichmann’s ability–ability is not a moral trait.) Is the ICE clownshow really Miller’s fault? He may well understand that the optics are terrible, but perhaps cannot do anything about it.

    I have a very low opinion of Kristi Noem and Corey Lewandowski. The clumsy clownshow may be theirs, with Trump’s backing. The Cossacks, after all, do work for the Czar. Miller may have started it, but at this point, he may just be along for the ride.

    • john paul jones says:

      I’d have to disagree. Miller is not just along for the ride. The speech he gave was a shout-out to one Goebbels gave, the “storm is coming.” He and Bannon deliberately tried to use Kirk’s death as a combination Horst Wessel and Reichstag Fire moment. He seems well versed in the history of the Nazi movement, and I would not be at all surprised to discover that the reason Hegseth is calling all the generals together is to get them to swear a personal oath to Trump, or at least, swear fealty to administration policies. Hitler did exactly that in 1935, to box the generals in. The fact that he’s obviously not as smart as he thinks he is doesn’t detract from his ambition; rather the opposite.

      • Greg Hunter says:

        That kind of backfired on them as Thomas Sanford did not pick out the LDS church for no reason. I doubt we get all of his exposure to what triggered him but he was already an LDS hater before the Kirk killing, so that incident is tied to violence against a group.

        “But his time living in Utah and heavy use of methamphetamine appeared to change him more. There, he fell in love with a woman who was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the relationship ended painfully, his friend said.” – Per 9/29/2025 NYT reporting

        Tyler killed because of new found love and Thomas because of love gone bad.

  12. KlauseEdcase says:

    “POLICE ICE” Please and thank you.

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    • gmokegmoke says:

      Maybe we can tag team it with Jackson doing the “motherfuckers” and Isiah Whitlock Jr, as Clay Davis from The Wire, doing the “shit.”

  13. xyxyxyxy says:

    WTF, Google cracks
    (Bloomberg) — Google agreed to pay $24.5 million to resolve Donald Trump’s claims that being banished from his YouTube channel after the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the US Capitol was illegal censorship, according to a court filing.
    The settlement disclosed Monday ends Trump’s long-running legal challenge to the suspension. The filing says $22 million will go toward construction of a new ballroom in the White House, a project near and dear to Trump. Google declined to comment. The remainder will go to a handful of other plaintiffs who joined Trump in the legal action.
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-pay-24-5-million-214136656.html

  14. harpie says:

    o/t Here’s HEGSETH …LIVE on C-Span [Not sure when it started]:

    Pres. Trump & Defense Secretary Hegseth Address to Senior Military Leaders
    Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth addresses senior mlitary leaders who were summoned to Washington from their stations all over the world by the secretary for a meeting of the Pentagon’s top brass. https://www.c-span.org/event/white-house-event/pres-trump-defense-secretary-hegseth-address-to-senior-military-leaders/436831 September 30, 2025

    • harpie says:

      TRUMP to Generals and Admirals:

      https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m22pn4sn6r2s
      September 30, 2025 at 10:16 AM

      Trump to top military officials: “I told Pete, we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military. National Guard, but our military. Because we’re going into Chicago very soon. That’s a big city with an incompetent governor. Stupid governor.” [VIDEO]

        • gruntfuttock says:

          The new regime seems to be hoping that they will purge themselves so that they can be replaced with new, improved, more male soldiers who will protect America from itself by being more American than you: that is, not too fat, not too beardy, not too ugly, and definitely not female.

          How many things are they trying to distract us from?

        • Mooserites says:

          Actually, considering history, I can’t think of anybody better than a Jewish guy to get this country moving towards Christian Nationalism.

  15. harpie says:

    BOVINO

    https://bsky.app/profile/chipmitchell1.bsky.social/post/3m23saork522i
    September 30, 2025 at 8:35 PM

    Gregory Bovino, commander-at-large of the U.S. #BorderPatrol, claims a @wbez.org / @chicago.suntimes.com report about his comments Sunday in downtown #Chicago was “grossly inaccurate” and taken out of context.
    So we’ve posted the interview’s unedited AUDIO and TRANSCRIPT: [LINK]

    Links to:
    Transcript: Gregory Bovino says arrestees in Downtown Chicago chosen based partly on ‘how they look’ WBEZ spoke with the U.S. Border Patrol commander about a deportation blitz in the Loop and River North neighborhoods. He claimed our report took his comments out of context. Here is the transcript and unedited audio recording of the interview.
    https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2025/09/30/transcript-audio-gregory-bovino-immigrant-arrests-downtown-chicago-chosen-how-they-look Chip Mitchell Sept 30, 2025, 7:37pm EDT

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