Shit-Posting All the Way to SCOTUS

I was going to write about how important today’s filing in Illinois’ challenge to Trump’s invasion is.

Thankfully, Steve Vladeck did that so I don’t have to.

As for why it’s this application that presents the Court with a make-or-break moment, it’s worth reflecting on what it would mean if the full Court grants the Trump administration’s request.

First, and immediately, it will mean that the Trump administration is allowed to deploy troops onto the streets of Chicago (and Broadview) to effectively militarize the enforcement of our immigration laws. Although the application to the Supreme Court is replete with references to protecting federal property, the federal government doesn’t need the authorities that are currently blocked to do that; it can use regular troops, almost certainly without invoking 10 U.S.C. § 12406 or any other statute. (This is the “protective” power.) The power the Trump administration is seeking here is much broader—and would almost certainly mean that federalized National Guard troops would start accompanying ICE officers on immigration raids and other operations—even if they’re not making the arrests themselves. That would be a … dramatic … escalation relative to where we are today.

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Third, and most importantly, it would allow the federal government to obtain emergency relief based upon either (1) a limitless view of what it means to be “unable to execute the laws of the United States”; or (2) an incredibly one-sided factual narrative that was expressly rejected by the district judge, and that the unanimous court of appeals panel refused to disturb. The justices aren’t factfinders, and absent some “clear” reason to believe that the lower courts erred in discrediting the Trump administration’s factual claims (when, in fact, there are lots of reasons to believe that the district court was right), to grant relief in the face of those findings is to not just show stunning disrespect to both the lower courts and the appropriate standard of review; it’s to send the message that the facts just don’t matter—so long as five or more justices personally believe whatever the federal government is telling them.

That would be a big enough problem in other contexts (I’ve already written about the casual relationship Justice Kavanaugh’s Vasquez Perdomo concurrence has with the facts), but it would be utterly catastrophic here. After all, armed with a grant of emergency relief on this application, what is to stop the Trump administration from making comparably inflated and/or invented claims about the situations on the ground in other American cities as a pretextual basis for deploying troops? And what’s to stop it from making those claims not (just) tomorrow, but next November—on the eve of the midterm elections?

Having outsourced that gloomy contemplation to him, I want to point to several things that might lead SCOTUS to exercise some sanity.

First, Vladeck cited from Judge April Perry’s ruling on the lack of credibility of the affiants that the Administration submitted. But he didn’t note the paragraph following the general credibility assessment, in which Judge Perry described how the government threatened to invade the courthouse itself.

Finally, the Court notes its concern about a third declaration submitted by Defendants, in which the declarant asserted that the FPS “requested federalized National Guard personnel to support protection of the Federal District Court on Friday, October 10, 2025.” Doc. 62-3. This purported fact was incendiary and seized upon by both parties at oral argument. It was also inaccurate, as the Court noted on the record. To their credit, Defendants have since submitted a corrected declaration, and the affiant has declared that they did not make the error willfully. Doc. 65-1. All of the parties have been moving quickly to compile factual records and legal arguments, and mistakes in such a context are inevitable. That said, Defendants only presented declarations from three affiants with first-hand knowledge of events in Illinois. And, as described above, all three contain unreliable information. [links added]

Over the weekend, in response to a question about the Insurrection Act, Trump noted that one benefit (to him) of invoking it would be to shut down the courts.

This is not just a threat to the sovereignty of states. It is, explicitly, a threat to the coequal status of the courts, up to and including SCOTUS. That may make them view this threat differently.

And Trump hasn’t helped his credibility since then.

Perhaps most spectacularly, the details regarding a number of “Kavanaugh stops” have come out since Judge Perry ruled for Chicago, not least the case of a teenaged girl who was violently detained in Hoffman Estates.

A teen in Hoffman Estates was thrown to the ground by what appeared to be a federal agent this past weekend, and the teen and two of her friends were detained for hours before they were released.

Her parents spoke out Monday after they say their daughter, 18-year-old Evelyn, is still shaken from the experience.

Evelyn’s parents said her boyfriend got a call that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were in his neighborhood. They went to warn people who live there and recorded the officers. This led to a violent arrest, in which the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said it did not take part.

Video from the Friday incident shows sirens and undercover law enforcement cars flooding the Hoffman Estates neighborhood where the arrest happened.

The video shows Evelyn getting pulled out of the passenger seat. She is then thrown to the ground, all while saying she is not resisting arrest, as the officer handcuffed her and appeared to put a knee on her back.

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In a post on X, Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin commented on Evelyn’s arrest video, saying, “Imagine being so desperate to demonize law enforcement you post a video from a burglary arrest Chicago police made over a year ago. This isn’t even ICE.”

Hoffman Estates police, however, said ICE was in the area on Friday.

Her treatment not only debunks Justice Kavanaugh’s claim that the impact of racial profiling on US citizens is minimal, but it exposes Tricia McLaughlin as a fabricator.

Meanwhile, even as Trump is claiming a rebellion in Chicago, as many as 250,000 people showed up for the No Kings protest in Chicago on Saturday. While there were clashes at Broadview, where the ICE facility is, I’ve seen no reports of disturbances at the protest itself. Chicago can rightly point to the peaceful protest as a counter to the inflated claims from the government.

Then there’s Trump’s childish tantrums this weekend.

Chicago is arguing that Trump is invading not for any reason tied to law enforcement, but out of animus. It’s hard to imagine any more succinct expression of such animus than Trump’s shit post responding to the protests.

And finally, the fiasco at Camp Pendleton — where Trump whined after Gavin Newsom shut down the freeway during Trump’s live ammunition display at the base, only to be vindicated when shrapnel from the event hit JD Vance’s motorcade.

Vladeck is right: If SCOTUS grants Trump relief here, it will be far worse than any of their earlier shadow docket interventions. Let’s hope that Trump’s weekend tantrums will finally convince the court that he can no longer be indulged.

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  1. Attygmgm says:

    Another excellent post.

    I am not sure how counsel supplement the record for emergency SCOTUS review, so let’s hope some casual judicial notice puts the weekend’s conduct on the court’s radar. The No Kings turnout, and its peacefulness, surely registered on some level with the court and the justices law clerks. And the President’s bizarre and too-on-the-nose social media post.

    I am sure we would all like a job where we get to say what the facts are, no matter how absurd, so let’s hope the district court’s factual findings of the administration’s lack of credibility are not blithely ignored.

  2. John Forde says:

    Marcy I’ve been waiting for him to say out loud that using the insurrection act will benefit him personally. Looking for that now. Do you know where he said or posted that?

  3. MsJennyMD says:

    Trump’s hateful, immature and insecure fake video response of himself dumping shit on Americans is highly symbolic considering he is dumping shit on Americans everyday with his fascist policies.

    • P J Evans says:

      Not only is that video fake, but also it’s point-and-laugh fake, starting with the idea that The Felon Guy could even get into the cockpit of a fighter jet, and going on through the O2 mask and the idea of dumpable tanks full of liquid shit.

  4. David Sansespoir says:

    Alas. It has long been Roberts’ modus operandi to exercise some sanity when not to would be jaw dropping and doing so would not impede progress toward his long term goals. He will blithely give us Chicago in exchange for voting rights.

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  5. Magnet48 says:

    I just watched your video & I am crying mostly for the bravery of everyone standing up for democracy but also for the fact that they need to do this. This is the most powerful video I think I’ve ever seen.

  6. earlofhuntingdon says:

    If the Supremes grant Trump’s relief, they will be begging for an insurrection, and establishing the rationale for it.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      Trump himself wants nothing more than to brutalize us into responding with “violence” so as to “justify” invoking the Insurrection Act. Having created this monster, SCOTUS now plays Dr. Frankenstein: pathetically seeking to appease while disabusing themselves of responsibility for the hubris that led to the monster’s creation.

      I just returned from a week with my sisters in northern Michigan. Middle sister lives in Chicago’s Rogers Park; every day she checked for neighborhood news. It started quiet but got bad fast, with videos of ICE battering folks she knows. We were prepping for the protest Saturday–me painting my sign on my jacket for the many airports I would pass through, sisters choosing t-shirts for Benzonia’s showing. (Rayne will know where this is!) Rain just made the colors that much brighter.

      In Trumpland there are no vacations. There is only The Work that we share, which feels better.

      • Thequickbrownfox says:

        I think he is working towards invoking the Insurrection Act, even without any actual violence against the government. He truly believes his king-like powers give him the ability to do so, and that nobody has the power to stop him.

        He may be right, and I believe we will know, soon.

  7. Arthur Benson says:

    It seems that Roberts and the conservatives on the court fear issuing, a ruling that Trump blatantly disobeys, thereby rendering the Court authority impotent. So they allow him deference. In this case, they may believe permitting him to invade. Chicago will prevent him from invoking the insurrection act. These are false hopes. Trump will keep upping the stakes. And in the next case, when he has invoked the insurrection that, the Court will have nowhere to go, nothing to fall back on, and Trump will have bluffed the Supreme Court into a nullity.

    • e.a. foster says:

      I doubt the Supreme Court is going to do anything to make Trump unhappy. Given he already believes he can do what he wants, I’m waiting for him to fire the Supreme Court so he can appoint his own stooges. He has a couple on there already but I’m sure he is looking for those who will simply blindly obey him. If some of those judges lost their jobs live would be fairly grime for them, well having to return to their former lives…..

  8. scroogemcduck says:

    Unfortunately, I don’t trust this SCOTUS not to anoint Trump as God-Emperor. Given their track record, I worry that the majority will warn of the serious risks of NOT giving Trump unchecked power to do what he likes, scold the dissenters for daring to suggest that he might abuse that power, and (as a practical matter) end the Republic. They’ve already sign-posted their willingness to turn the Constitution on its head in the VRA case – anti-racism is the new racism, and laws preventing racism and unconstitutional. If they can justify that level of lunacy to themselves, nothing is off the table.

  9. AirportCat says:

    Two Trump-appointed judges on a 3-judge panel in the 9th Circuit have just ruled that Trump can deploy the National Guard to Portland. Based on the reporting on the ruling, it just sounds batshit insane, essentially arguing that “well, maybe it could be worse and who are we to judge the situation on a day-to-day basis.” It completely ignores that the conditions for deployment under Section 12406 are not being met.

    • P J Evans says:

      It also ignores all the videos and photos and personal reports that Portland is not, in fact, anywhere remotely close to needing the Guard.

    • Matt___B says:

      It’s also in conflict with the 7th Circuit’s ruling vis-a-vis Chicago, so it’s headed up to the Supremos right quick…

      • AirportCat says:

        The fact that this case is headed to the Supreme Court is not exactly comforting. Are we going to get actual arguments or another shadow docket rubber stamp of approval for whatever this administration sees fit to do because unitary executive I guess.

      • AirportCat says:

        The dissenting justice on the 3-judge panel is asking for a rehearing and the full Circuit will vote on whether to do that. Looks like a strong possibility for a rehearing with a good chance that the original decision could be upheld.

  10. Eschscholzia says:

    Today the LA Times has an updated article about the Camp Pendleton artillery incident: https://web.archive.org/web/20251020130011/https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-10-20/camp-pendleton-live-fire-interstate-5-shrapnel
    No technical details on what may have happened, but a comprehensive timeline of the communications and changes over the last week. The reporters are based in San Francisco & Sacramento, not LA or San Diego, so their sources are likely CHP and state, not direct witnesses.

    It will be interesting if CHP happens to have video from Saturday that they are not yet releasing. They don’t have a public webcam at Las Pulgas Rd, but that is a regular location for traffic reports (done by cameras no longer by traffic helicopters), and they might also have dashcams. I doubt the White House recordings will be made available to the public, or even to whatever investigation actually happens. Now I’m curious just how much artillery-related footage they’ll include in their prime time special.

  11. brucefan says:

    Does Trump agreeing to a 30 day extension of the TRO (he never agrees to anything) mean that he heard SCOTUS is going his way, quickly?

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