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Twaspawarednot says:
What is the possibility that what Tulsi Gabbard said is true? Do we know that Iran is working to make nuclear weapons? If I remember right the George Dubya administration claimed they had to invade Iraq because of the Sept. 11 attack. No one believed it so then they claimed Iraq was training terrorist. No one believed that either. So then they repeated over and over about weapons of mass destruction for weeks while the CIA water boarded some one until he finally figured out what they wanted him to say. Then even Colin Powell believed, what to me, seemed an obvious lie. United Nations inspection teams were going out every day in search of evidence. The big lie was almost universally accepted. Is there some reason I am not hearing any questions about whether Iran is actually building nuclear weapons? Did I miss something?
Thank you for the references. It may be a possible explanation for the contradictions. Maybe American intelligence agencies are referring to no evidence of weapons building while the IAEA is referring to uranium enrichment facilities. They are are not necessarily the same thing but enrichment could be used for weapons building.
Joe Orton says:
I heard a man speaking about Iran, Friday on NPR, and the making of nuclear weapons. He said that it was unlikely Iran was making nuclear weapons but if they were then that 60% enrichment would be enough for 10 nuclear warheads. But he said they do have the knowledge to do it and they have that 60% and they have likely moved everyone and everything needed to make the warheads to a totally secret location and will now do it since they have been attacked by 2 countries at once and will likely feel the need to not have bombs dropped on them again..
Mary Trump says the mass detentions are paybacks for donations to the election campaign, “fund the campaign, get the contract, lock up more people, reap the profits”, ie jim crowe,,,PEONAGE. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gOywBo1xPo
Matt Foley says:
President Trump is amazing!!! In one day he won the golf championship at his own club (absolutely no cheating because he NEVER cheats at golf) AND then he won the first ever Trump Peace Prize! HOW DOES HE DO IT??
Speaking of higher prices, who else remembers these lawn signs?
TRUMP: LOWER PRICES
KAMALA: HIGHER PRICES
wa_rickf says:
I have brought up higher prices in the Faux “News” comments. I am corrected and shown to understand this is ol’ Joe’s fault and the higher prices have NOTHING to do with tariffs or raiding food plants and farms.
So much Rwing Kook-Aid drinking over at Faux!
BTW, the majority of RW commenters at Faux are all in on attacking Iran.
Matt Foley says:
Deplorables say inflation is down. I remind them that a) Trump campaigned on “low prices” and b) “inflation” means “higher prices.” They respond by telling me I have TDS.
wa_rickf says:
Matt, I seriously don’t think that you have Trump DEVOTION Syndrome (TDS). THEY do.
P J Evans says:
Tell them they just volunteered for the invasion.
P J Evans says:
The bread I buy (house brand) went up 30 cents per loaf in March. That’s about 15%.
Matt Foley says:
Bananas up 28% from $0.49/lb. to $0.63/lb.
wa_rickf says:
“…BTW, the majority of RW commenters at Faux are all in on attacking Iran…”
Lev Parnas, if you can believe what he says:
“Donald Trump wants to strike Iran. He wants the credit. My sources— people who know—tell me Trump wants to go down in history as the man who ‘took out’ Iran’s nuclear facilities. That’s the legacy he craves.”
…
“But here’s the truth: He’s being stopped. Stopped by Stephen Witkoff, who’s acting as a backchannel between Trump, Putin, and Iran. And stopped by Vladimir Putin, who’s playing a long game—and needs Iran to survive.”
Parnas then goes on to cite Putin-lover Tucker Carlson as trying to talk Trump out of attacking Iran.
“President Trump is amazing!!! In one day he won the golf championship at his own club (absolutely no cheating because he NEVER cheats at golf)” That’s why his nickname in the golf world is Pele.
zscoreUSA says:
Re: if US conducts regime change in Iran, then China views that as an open door to take Taiwan
Indeed, there appears to be some sort of shadow framework guiding many in the right wing that may explain that this an understood trade-off.
When you try digging into the origins of Qanon, you run across Iran hawk after Iran hawk. Where I’m to the point I believe the original purpose of what Qanon hijacked, was a plan to use social media for regime change with Iran and/or Syria [I have many more reasons than simply Iran hawks to believe that, but won’t go into it here]. For example, characters like Ezra Cohen, Mike Flynn, Paul Vallely are very hawkish on Iran, and they are names that come up wrt Qanon.
In particular, Flynn and Cohen demonstrate they are pro Russia and anti Ukraine. I’m perplexed what’s going on there.
But, if there was some sort of deal that Israel gets Gaza & West Bank, Russia gets Ukraine, China gets Taiwan, and in exchange Russia and China will back off Iran support, that may explain some of what we are seeing play out.
For example, in a Twitter spaces during December 2024, so during the transition, Cohen discussed recent strikes of facilities in Iran by Israel that Biden green lit. Cohen started whining that one of the destroyed facilities built weapons that Iran would send to Ukraine, so that’s a bad thing.
Similarly, Miranda Devine, for example, whined that because of MH17 sanctions, poor Russia, the victim, was forced to seek out financial support from Chine and seek out a Rosneft deal with China.
And we see things like FBI Director Patel with Chinese investments, Chinese investments in Trump’s Crypto, Chinese investments in Trump’s Truth Social.
Matt Foley says:
Use “Iran” in a sentence.
Trump: “I ran from Putin like a frightened Josh Hawley.”
wa_rickf says:
1980s band A Flock of Seagulls comes to mind…
Matt Foley says:
Peace through strength.
Health through pandemics.
Wealth through record high prices.
So much WINNING!
wa_rickf says:
More like Trump would run TOWARDS Putin. Don’cha ya’ love how Trump admonished the G7 for kicking out his BFF in 2014?
harpie says:
[I’m placing this here as well as the Open: SCOTUS post because it makes me so happy]
AOC: Being taken is wrong, it is illegal, it is a violation of his First Amendment rights, it is an affront to every American, and we will not allow—and will continue to resist—the politicization and the continued political persecution that ICE is engaged in. [VIDEO]
What is the possibility that what Tulsi Gabbard said is true? Do we know that Iran is working to make nuclear weapons? If I remember right the George Dubya administration claimed they had to invade Iraq because of the Sept. 11 attack. No one believed it so then they claimed Iraq was training terrorist. No one believed that either. So then they repeated over and over about weapons of mass destruction for weeks while the CIA water boarded some one until he finally figured out what they wanted him to say. Then even Colin Powell believed, what to me, seemed an obvious lie. United Nations inspection teams were going out every day in search of evidence. The big lie was almost universally accepted. Is there some reason I am not hearing any questions about whether Iran is actually building nuclear weapons? Did I miss something?
The media warfare alleges that Iran has been enriching kgs of uranium to 60% of the desired isotope.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iaea-chief-sees-time-running-out-revive-iran-nuclear-deal-2025-02-14/
Counterpoint https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn840275p5yo
Thank you for the references. It may be a possible explanation for the contradictions. Maybe American intelligence agencies are referring to no evidence of weapons building while the IAEA is referring to uranium enrichment facilities. They are are not necessarily the same thing but enrichment could be used for weapons building.
I heard a man speaking about Iran, Friday on NPR, and the making of nuclear weapons. He said that it was unlikely Iran was making nuclear weapons but if they were then that 60% enrichment would be enough for 10 nuclear warheads. But he said they do have the knowledge to do it and they have that 60% and they have likely moved everyone and everything needed to make the warheads to a totally secret location and will now do it since they have been attacked by 2 countries at once and will likely feel the need to not have bombs dropped on them again..
IANAL. Is it not cruel and unusual punishment to deport people who legally entered the US and have no criminal charges to an indeterminate prison sentence in El Salvador? Should there be other lawsuits against the executive
branch who did this?
Any news of the US court of appeals case on Boasberg’s recent order? The briefing schedule was through June 18?
https://www.cato.org/blog/50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article307909255.html
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-appeal-order-granting-el-salvador-deportees/story?id=122691862
Mary Trump says the mass detentions are paybacks for donations to the election campaign, “fund the campaign, get the contract, lock up more people, reap the profits”, ie jim crowe,,,PEONAGE.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_gOywBo1xPo
President Trump is amazing!!! In one day he won the golf championship at his own club (absolutely no cheating because he NEVER cheats at golf) AND then he won the first ever Trump Peace Prize! HOW DOES HE DO IT??
Speaking of higher prices, who else remembers these lawn signs?
TRUMP: LOWER PRICES
KAMALA: HIGHER PRICES
I have brought up higher prices in the Faux “News” comments. I am corrected and shown to understand this is ol’ Joe’s fault and the higher prices have NOTHING to do with tariffs or raiding food plants and farms.
So much Rwing Kook-Aid drinking over at Faux!
BTW, the majority of RW commenters at Faux are all in on attacking Iran.
Deplorables say inflation is down. I remind them that a) Trump campaigned on “low prices” and b) “inflation” means “higher prices.” They respond by telling me I have TDS.
Matt, I seriously don’t think that you have Trump DEVOTION Syndrome (TDS). THEY do.
Tell them they just volunteered for the invasion.
The bread I buy (house brand) went up 30 cents per loaf in March. That’s about 15%.
Bananas up 28% from $0.49/lb. to $0.63/lb.
“…BTW, the majority of RW commenters at Faux are all in on attacking Iran…”
Lev Parnas, if you can believe what he says:
“Donald Trump wants to strike Iran. He wants the credit. My sources— people who know—tell me Trump wants to go down in history as the man who ‘took out’ Iran’s nuclear facilities. That’s the legacy he craves.”
…
“But here’s the truth: He’s being stopped. Stopped by Stephen Witkoff, who’s acting as a backchannel between Trump, Putin, and Iran. And stopped by Vladimir Putin, who’s playing a long game—and needs Iran to survive.”
Parnas then goes on to cite Putin-lover Tucker Carlson as trying to talk Trump out of attacking Iran.
https://levremembers.substack.com/p/donnie-two-weeks-strikes-again-the
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I’m going out on a limb, and say the truth is somewhere the middle.
Welp, Parnas is wrong.
Trump bombed Iran. So much for those Russian nuclear scientists working inside the labs.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-strikes-iranian-nuclear-site-trump-says-rcna213781
“President Trump is amazing!!! In one day he won the golf championship at his own club (absolutely no cheating because he NEVER cheats at golf)” That’s why his nickname in the golf world is Pele.
Re: if US conducts regime change in Iran, then China views that as an open door to take Taiwan
Indeed, there appears to be some sort of shadow framework guiding many in the right wing that may explain that this an understood trade-off.
When you try digging into the origins of Qanon, you run across Iran hawk after Iran hawk. Where I’m to the point I believe the original purpose of what Qanon hijacked, was a plan to use social media for regime change with Iran and/or Syria [I have many more reasons than simply Iran hawks to believe that, but won’t go into it here]. For example, characters like Ezra Cohen, Mike Flynn, Paul Vallely are very hawkish on Iran, and they are names that come up wrt Qanon.
In particular, Flynn and Cohen demonstrate they are pro Russia and anti Ukraine. I’m perplexed what’s going on there.
But, if there was some sort of deal that Israel gets Gaza & West Bank, Russia gets Ukraine, China gets Taiwan, and in exchange Russia and China will back off Iran support, that may explain some of what we are seeing play out.
For example, in a Twitter spaces during December 2024, so during the transition, Cohen discussed recent strikes of facilities in Iran by Israel that Biden green lit. Cohen started whining that one of the destroyed facilities built weapons that Iran would send to Ukraine, so that’s a bad thing.
Similarly, Miranda Devine, for example, whined that because of MH17 sanctions, poor Russia, the victim, was forced to seek out financial support from Chine and seek out a Rosneft deal with China.
And we see things like FBI Director Patel with Chinese investments, Chinese investments in Trump’s Crypto, Chinese investments in Trump’s Truth Social.
Use “Iran” in a sentence.
Trump: “I ran from Putin like a frightened Josh Hawley.”
1980s band A Flock of Seagulls comes to mind…
Peace through strength.
Health through pandemics.
Wealth through record high prices.
So much WINNING!
More like Trump would run TOWARDS Putin. Don’cha ya’ love how Trump admonished the G7 for kicking out his BFF in 2014?
[I’m placing this here as well as the Open: SCOTUS post because it makes me so happy]
Mahmoud KHALIL is finally back with his family!
https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3ls5h44vvgc25
June 21, 2025 at 5:00 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/merovingians.bsky.social/post/3ls5f7npfxk2b
June 21, 2025 at 4:27 PM