20 Months: A Comparison of the Mueller and Durham Investigations
Because Jonathan Turley and John Cornyn are being stupid on the Internet, I did a Twitter thread comparing the relative output of the Mueller and Durham investigations in their first 18 months. Actually, Durham has been investigating the Russian investigation for 20 months already.
So I did a comparison of the Mueller and Durham investigations over their first 20 months. Here’s what that comparison looks like.
So, in 20 months, Durham went on a boondoggle trip to Italy with Bill Barr to chase conspiracy theories, charged one person, and had his top investigator quit due to political pressure.
In the Mueller investigation’s first 20 months, his prosecutors had charged 33 people and 3 corporations (just Roger Stone was charged after that) and, with Manafort’s forfeiture, paid for much of their investigation.
Update: I’ve corrected the Manafort forfeiture claim. While I haven’t checked precisely how much the US Treasury pocketed by selling Manafort’s properties, I think the declining value of Trump Tower condos means that Manafort’s forfeiture didn’t quite pay for the entire investigation. I’ve also corrected in which month Manafort was found guilty in EDVA.
Update: In response to the Durham appointment, American Oversight reposted the travel records from the Italy boondoggle, which was actually in September, not October (Barr also made a trip to Italy in August 2019 for the same stated purpose, so I wonder if there were two boondoggles). I’ve corrected the timeline accordingly.
This is very good, concise and the courtier press starting with Chuck Todd will not be interested because they want DJT in the news to sell ads.
However, something like this would be very useful in the hands of Katie Porter or Ted Lieu in upcoming hearings on Durham’s conduct, and since as Special Counsel he will not be replaced when Biden is inaugurated he’ll be invited in to explain himself. A very good sound bite is here for the news cycle.
Seems a good idea to research what Barr and Durham’s actual movements, actions and interviews consisted of in Italy.
Boondoggle for sure!
Thanks for this great information summary!
I would think that would be part of the review Biden’s AG would do, and since Durham is still Special Counsel he can be directed to explain himself to the new AG or to the Oversight Committee.
That particular European snipe hunt was ineffective and never fully explained, including how much it cost the taxpayers.
I believe that had to do with trying to sort out who Joseph Mifsud was really working for. Barr once stated, more or less, that he went along to vouch for his man to the Italian Justice Minister, Intelligence peeps, etc.
That tracing did not need to be done by AG Barr in person, nor did AG Barr have to “vouch” for Durham in person. The mission was more about creating Biden dirt than looking for Mifsud. As is standard for Barr stuff, the Mifsud story was a red herring.
ELECTION-related-LITIGATION CHANGE at SCOTUS [for SOME reason]
11:13 AM · Dec 6, 2020
Here’s Steve Vladeck on 12/3:
7:56 PM · Dec 3, 2020
8:25 PM · Dec 3, 2020
So, “a clear sign that this has no chance” no more.
I really hope that someone asks Kelly how this does NOT invalidate all the other stuff on the ballots in PA.
Related shenanigans from Friday, December 4: after Rudy et al. attack, PA GOPers ask [PA] US Reps to do the coup:
After Trump team calls them ‘cowards’ and ‘traitors,’ state GOP leaders urge Congress to reject Pa. election results
They are cowards if they backtrack because of a Rudy tweet. They should have issued a “fuck you Rudy” reply (in more formal language than that, but with the essence clear)
I note that Rudy’s hospitalization comes 11 days after the known-COVID hotbed Pettysburg Address. I do not have it in me to do the public-info contact trace (for that, or his other circles of exposure; also he was about to carry it, with the roadshow, to AZ).
But his bully tweet — claiming PA GOPers “misled” him and Trump (included in article above) — harkens back to that day and the (COVID-ridden) PA legislators’ trip to see POTUS afterwards.
Marcy has said how, surely, one of these swing-state contingents must have taped Trump criming — for leverage; a way out, perhaps at their oligarch’s (intuited) behest. Her bet has been on the MI travelers. I’d say the response of the PA GOPers suggests that they do not, in fact, have the goods, nor a funding source with a distaste for chaos-agent Trump. [And (COVID-ridden) ringleader Mastriano, guest/mutual-wanker of the likes of Bannon and Kirk, would seem to see his future with the Mercer contingent.]
Maybe the DeVoses need to invest more in PA, for the sake of stability in their investments (transnational becomes interstate again!).
WaPo tonight with an update on this related coup prong:
Also on the case harpie is posting about (more on this from Hasen, to follow separately):
Trump asks Pennsylvania House speaker for help overturning election results, personally intervening in a third state
By Amy Gardner, Josh Dawsey and Rachael Bade
Dec. 7, 2020 at 7:47 p.m. EST
Don’t get too excited about Toomey’s rebuke: he blamed “liberals” and “the press” for GOPers believing conspiracy theory bullshit. He remains a coward, if an approaching “bothsides” varietal:
Trump campaign to overturn Pennsylvania election results ‘unacceptable,’ Pat Toomey says
I don’t know who could read that and not be incensed. He should have shut down Trump and allies’ chicanery-couping, full stop.
Thanks for all the added information, Eureka and all.
Steve Vladeck wrote an explanatory thread:
1:23 PM · Dec 6, 2020
I want to believe he’s right about this, but… :-(
I guess my trust that things will be alright is not very high at the moment.
After he finished the thread, he appended a correction affecting this:
All I know right now is that ALITO HAS GONE ROGUE.
Non-interfering (well, that was last Thursday) PA legislators (who wrote and voted for Act 77 law at issue) w/ brief to SCOTUS along w PA GOP (which skirts Kelly et al.’s main claim, because … see prior arguments) arguing PA SC should not have dismissed over laches (how embarrassing):
Steven Mazie: “And the brief from 23 House Republicans just sort of murmurs that Rep. Kelly should get the remedy he seeks (without naming it). [highlighted screenshot of brief; QT of Hason below]”
12:15 AM · Dec 8, 2020
Rick Hasen: “#ELB: Super Interesting: In Rep. Kelly’s Case Seeking to Overturn PA Results for President, Brief from PA Republican Party Does NOT Support Argument Election Should Be Overturned [link]”
11:41 PM · Dec 7, 2020
From Hasen’s blog:
(insert dash or separator b/w “SCOTUS” and “along with” to clarify they are two separate things)
The two new briefs:
20201207182012145_Motion w brief.pdf
20201207191811200_20A98 Amicus Brief.pdf
Here’s the third new brief, the one by the PA state legislators [“32 Republican state legislators” as described in WaPo above, the one I’d corrected a transposition of reference to with the 23 _US_ Reps’ brief — too many tabs, too much couping*]:
JHC they cite “witness testimony” from the Pettysburg Address at Gettysburg under Other Authorities with a youtube link. I’m surprised not to have found any of the usual suspects ripping this up on twitter with the other briefs.
The docket (a couple of additional motions for amicus went up Monday December 7th besides the three main ones above):
*some of the same state lawmakers joined others to file a separate state court suit Monday, asking the court to withdraw PA’s certification of presidential electors (reviving claims a lot like those already rejected in the MDPA case decided by Judge Brann).
(That rehash-of-meritlessness state suit is linked and discussed here:
With time running out, GOP state reps file new challenge to Pa.’s election results, citing already rejected claims of fraud
* CORRECTION above: I thought these were PA legislators: they are House of Reps (some PA, some elsewhere)
LOL, I was wont to describe the 23 legislators one as “strange”, then saw that that is the *exact* legal jargon for what’s afoot:
Raffi Melkonian: “This is …. a very strange brief.”
12:11 AM · Dec 8, 2020
Steven Mazie: “In the self-imploding challenge to the Pennsylvania election results pending at SCOTUS, 23 House Republicans file an amicus brief with this puzzling closing. Yes, “stitch” is misspelled. And beats me what the “many more” things to be “saved down the road”…are. [screenshots, thread, discussion]”
11:56 PM · Dec 7, 2020
1] GOP at SCOTUS and 2] GOP in Pa – – something in common;
1] [via Marcy]: [EW:] https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1336151798076362761
10:33 PM · Dec 7, 2020
2:46 PM · Dec 7, 2020
Klasfeld links to:
How Trump’s Legal Challenges of the Election Results Turned into a Tax-Deductible ‘Coup’
Dec 2nd, 2020, 10:03 am
The THOMAS MORE SOCIETY probably had prime seats at the FEDERALIST SOCIETY meeting in early November to hear ALITO rant.
11:25 AM · Dec 6, 2020
12:18 PM · Dec 6, 2020
1] Here’s Mark Joseph Stern with a live thread of ALITO’s SCREED: [post-election]
8:08 PM · Nov 12, 2020
2] Aaron Rupar with a clip of Trump:
8:52 PM · Dec 5, 2020
Lot of people are apoplectic about the date being moved up one day. Not sure I am, more likely just insuring it was briefed before denial. But who knows with this bunch? We shall see I guess.
I’m remembering this from October:
In a 4–4 Split, the Supreme Court Lets Pennsylvania Make Voting Easier—for Now
The decision signals that Amy Coney Barrett will cast the deciding vote in any upcoming election disputes.
RICHARD L. HASEN OCT 19, 20208:06 PM
That was PRE-election. The situation is different now.
OK…guess I’m just being paranoid.
Oh, don’t think that is paranoid at this point. But I “think” it will be okay.
Or…I might be an idiot. Probably a 50:50 proposition.
You were right!
4:44 PM · Dec 8, 2020
[QUOTE] #ELB: Breaking: Without Noted Dissent, Supreme Court Denies Relief in Rep. Kelly PA Voting Case That Sought to Disenfranchise State’s Voters (This is The One I Said Had the Dumbest SCOTUS Argument I’ve Ever Seen) [link] [ENDQUOTE]
Via Adam Klasfeld:
4:49 PM · Dec 8, 2020
This morning, the Commonwealth of PA et al.’s response went up, preceded by an amicus for them by two PA state Dem senators (including a co-writer of Act 77).
I have a question: do Justices (or, here, Alito) read briefs in any particular order, by custom or habit?
The PA Dem senators’ amicus leads nicely into PA et al.’s lengthier response (by happenstance of reading order, prompting the question. Works as an after-reinforcer, too, of course).
Example (from header for first arguments of each):
Dem senators’ amicus:
PA et al.:
re this case and safe harbor, Hasen has been tweeting things like this lately:
Rick Hasen: “To be clear, I don’t expect the petition to go anywhere. But let’s not read safe harbor as some magical deadline.”
If you click on Goldman’s threads below, there’s a nice diagram in the replies with decision rules as to all that can happen into January (the linked tweet links to both unlinked ones, FYI):
Rick Hasen: “I spent a good part of the day fielding press calls about tomorrow, the so-called “safe harbor day.” The best way to think of it is not as a drop dead deadline but as another nail in the coffin.”
Ira Goldman 🦆🦆🦆: “@rickhasen Of course “safe harbor day” is a day, and it may be a harbor, but it’s no more safe than anything else covered by a parliamentary rule. In related news… [QT below]:
Ira Goldman 🦆🦆🦆: “January 6, 2021. The day Congress will count the electoral votes. But it’s also the day die-hard Trumpsters in Congress will have to make a choice: Will they object to various states’ votes & thereby make their fellow Repubs *vote* whether or not Trump lost fair & square. 🍿 1/” [thread]
Related items x2 (distributed krackeny):
Jeremy Roebuck: “And just your daily reminder…. The Trump campaign has still not filed anything to appeal its own PA case to SCOTUS , 10 days after the 3rd Circ rejected it and Giuliani and Co. vowed they’d be vindicated at the Supreme Court.”
9:43 AM · Dec 7, 2020
Steve Vladeck: “It looks like we have a new leader in the “craziest lawsuit filed to purportedly challenge the election” category: The State of Texas is suing Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin *directly* in #SCOTUS. (Spoiler alert: The Court is *never* going to hear this one.) [screenshots; thread…]”
9:11 AM · Dec 8, 2020
Oh dear sweet Ghu. I knew Paxton was an idjit, but I didn’t think he was that much of one. Unless he’s thinking it will look good on his resume when he applies for the job of AG to Trmp, sometime in the future in whatever universe they’re living in.
Ooh, another theory as to Paxton just popped up — pardon palooza, via Hasen:
“One reader suggested to me the reason for Paxton to file this heaping pile of a lawsuit: he wants a Trump pardon for federal crimes (he can’t get one for the state crimes he’s under indictment for).
FBI investigation of Paxton:
FBI is investigating Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, AP report says
The bureau is probing allegations that Paxton broke the law by using the attorney general’s office to serve the interests of a political donor, two unnamed sources told the Associated Press.
10:59 AM · Dec 8, 2020
Weigel: “How would that not be a quid pro quo? Seems like a moral hazard if a politician in legal trouble can do a favor for the president then get a pardon.”
11:14 AM · Dec 8, 2020
Hasen: “A quid pro quo requires an agreement. So long as Paxton doesn’t ask for a pardon in exchange for filing the lawsuit, no problem.”
emptywheel: “It would still be a legal pardon FOR PAXTON though.
Just not for Trump, until Pence pardons him.”
Paxton is already in legal trouble – with the SEC, from 5 years ago. So his ethics are already in question, and his morals are probably no better. (Especially since he fired several of his staff for whistle-blowing on him earlier this year.)
Can other States volunteer to be sued by Texas?
What if 49 out of 50 States of The Union signed on to be sued by Texas??
Would anti-judicial-activists at SCOTUS disenfranchise 49 out of 50 States of The Union just to get Trump four more years???
This is a little off topic: has anyone else noticed Trump really seems to get off on killing people?
There is a case — man set for execution soon — before Trump leaves office. From Huffington Post: “Brandon Bernard Is Scheduled To Be Executed. 5 Jurors Who Sentenced Him Don’t Think He Should Die.
Bernard, sentenced to death for acting as an accomplice to a crime when he was 18, is scheduled to be killed weeks before President Trump leaves office.”…
Defense attorneys are arguing the execution is illegal because all appeals have not been exhausted.
I’m forever reminded of the line from (Tom Cruise) movie Jack Reacher, about the types that join the military so they have legal means for killing people!!!
That’s Trump in a *nut* shell!
I’ve got to get the book written by Jerrold M. Post on Trump, “Dangerous Charisma…”!!
The Central Park Five were exonerated years ago, but he still wants them executed.
(It makes me wonder if he *wants* to watch executions.)
It’s part of his mental problems, that he’s a sadist.
I think this is also Barr the supposed Catholic extremist as much as Trump.
Yeah, even after the POPE recently wrote an encyclical in opposition:
Pope Francis closes the door on the death penalty in ‘Fratelli Tutti
James Martin, S.J. October 04, 2020
The Inquisition, what a show!
I’m sure he would deny it, but Barr and his brethren worship a god who is very Old Testament, fire and brimstone. Their worldview evolves around elite entitlement, arrogance, and power. Religion is part of how they wield it.
Barr’s paranoia – born of Vietnam, and the sexual and civil rights movements – gives him something in common with Trump and his predecessor, Mitchell Palmer. If Trump is playing McCarthy’s ignorant demagogue and Stephen Miller is Roy Cohn, Barr is J. Edgar.
Yes, not much good news in their treatment of the Gospels.
Hi, just a little quibble. The depiction of the deity in the Hebrew Scriptures (referred to by Christians as the “Old Testament”) is far more nuanced than “fire and brimstone”. Jesus’ teachings and model as described in the Gospels are consistent with God as described in the Old Testament, delivering, blessing, feeding, leading, correcting, etc. particularly in ways that repeatedly subvert human social structures of power and vengeance.
Chesed (lovingkindness), tzedekah (justice/right relationship/ethical social order), and shalom (peace, wholeness, thriving) are all foundational concepts that are part of the divine character described from Genesis to Malachi. Although fire and brimstone are present, the scale of the stories should be considered. And the New Testament includes similarly challenging depictions – the cursing of a fig tree to destruction, the deaths of Ananias and Sapphira in the early church, and so on.
I think that you are entirely correct that their (Barr, et. al.) worldview revolves around power, and how to wield it. But they’re not exegeting Scripture, they’re isegeting their own desires to hold and wield supreme power with whatever justifications serve their purposes. As many who claim to follow Jesus while ignoring his ethic do.
The division between “Old Testament” god of wrath and “New Testament” god of grace is an incorrect and artificial distinction that supports anti-Semitism and Christian supercessionism.
To be clear, I AM NOT CALLING ANYONE on this thread anti-semitic. Just trying to invite reflection on a phrase and framing that is both prevalent and problematic and maybe should be abandoned.
Not otherwise a fan of him, but Alan Dershowitz’s A Genesis of Justice discusses the development of the concept of justice through the Hebrew scriptures from the earliest, more retributive concepts to a more human, nuanced take.
Slacktivist describes it as an arc that bends increasingly towards justice and doing right (“righteousness” as it should be understood).
Trump gets off on killing.
From Salon, April 25, 2020. Chauncey DeVega interview with psychologist John Gartner…
“I believe that Donald Trump is also a sexual sadist, who on some basic level enjoys and is aroused by watching people be afraid of him. In his mind, Trump is creating chaos and instability so that he can feel powerful.”
later in the article…
‘Again, that behavior is part of the psychology of malignant narcissistic leaders. They are democidal. Malignant narcissistic leaders kill many of their own people through wars and political terror, but also through willful incompetence. These types of leaders actively do things that will kill large portions of the population. Causing harm is a type of addiction for them. Donald Trump’s addiction is only getting worse.”
Again, this was back in April
Yikes ! This makes me so discomforted because it rings so true.
*discomfited. Got happy fingers and forgot to bring my brain along.
This is death penalty performance art. The GOP has signaled in so many ways (like not bucking Trump with Covid raging) that the lives of post-birth humans are expendable for political purposes. The death penalty is an obscenity, the clearest sign of American hypocrisy. Its main function is as a bargaining chip in negotiating plea deals, and the extreme bias with which it is sought by prosecutors and applied by juries betrays our profound racism and class prejudice. Barr tried to fool us by executing White people first, but now he’s showing his and the nation’s ugly hand.
Well that’s it!! His malignancy is broadcast every day!
Why, oh why, do voters support him? Probably so they can, by extension, use the “baddest” weapon selected from the pile.
It always seemed odd that Trump would go to the rallies, wallowing in the spectre of huge crowds; then, for “exercise” or “relaxation” go golfing, which is pretty solitary and not any kind of real physical exertion.
It’s an excuse to get away from people, the office, the wife. To not have to interact with people. Whatta phony prick.
They should close the air space over Washington DC for days around the inauguration; especially for Trump.
Love the side by side timelines.
Do you think the Oct 2020 date for Special Counsel appointment should have an asterisk indicating the appointment was not publicly known until December 2020?
So Durham has been at it for 20 months and all he had to do was review government files and interview government personnel that couldn’t plead the 5th and still keep their jobs? Man, I hope he had Elliot Ness with him. At least he had “Billy Fatso”.
Durham: keeping us safe from civil servants for 20 months and counting.
Wonder if there is any chance the Biden AG names a special counsel to investigate Barr, Durham, Horiwitz and others?
I have no idea, my instinct is there’d be pressure on him to just move on—but I’d love it if Barr’s actions were subject to scrutiny, and that Durham will now report to an honest AG. As for Horowitz, I don’t think his reputation as a neutral arbiter is warranted, at this point—wasn’t he supposed to investigate those NY FBI agents who were feeding Rudy anti-Clinton leaks (thus pressuring Comey to forge ahead with that notorious and ill-advised late October 2016 press conference, days before the election) whatever happened to that investigation?
Enforcing the Hatch act would be a good start. The current DOJ hasn’t bothered to even care about it for months or years now.
OT news flash: Maybe Rudy WAS actually leaking. He has tested positive for Covid.
A Covid diagnosis could explain some of Rudy’s coo-coo behavior since the Covid can mess with many aspects of the body’s functioning.
(Or maybe this is the excuse to pull him out of the game and bench him!) Who possibly is ready to step in? Tiffany?
Naw, Rudy has been beyond batshit for years now. It’s not the Covid.
Rudy is covid positive?
Wonder how that happened.
(actually, I wonder why he didn’t test positive sooner)
I wondered the same thing. But it is actually more than just testing positive, he is hospitalized.
Instagram is blowing up with memes.
No surprise, given his age and probable co-morbidities. Hope he recovers. I also hope he lives a peaceful obscure retirement.
Maybe I read it here, but: there was proof at his flop sweat news conference, that Rudy is full of shit and that he IS leaking.
Slightly OT: The Warnock / Loeffler debate is tonight at 7:00 p.m. EST and will be streamed at https://www.gpb.org/
Since I’m watching from the PST zone, I’ll be having broiled bacon-wrapped scallops on the pupu platter ~ washed down with perfect gin martini(s)… Cheers!
The dinner table sounds wonderful.
Indeed, but the martini’s sound a little wet (I like ’em extra-dry and dirty, altho’ I had just cool water 2nite.)
I was raised in a proper household that contained vermouth, but, oddly, have no adult recollection of vermouthy beverages. I guess there is just too much beer.
I’ll note that vermouth, which is actually a flavoured fortified wine, can be pretty good o’er ice on a hot afternoon, or a Sunday morn.
Well, yes! By the _description_ I wondered so — which caused this reflection on what kind of adult household are we running here sans vermouth. I am glad you weighed back in with serving suggestions. 2021: time to live a little more.
ETA: and been meaning to add, glad you dodged that dance w the rona & dtr is improving.
Oooh, compare: is it like sangria? (Seems it might be, with how a friend makes sangria, anyway)
Thanks for that. Daughter is improving but says she has no sense of smell altho’ taste is coming. But she has a pending MRI for a possible ligament tear in her wrist that upon exam the doc told her she should be screaming when he palpates it – she has no or very little pain sensation, and no hunger cues – the doc assured her all will come back.
White vermouth on the rocks is slightly sweet and fairly bland but refreshing. Red vermouth on the rocks is, IMO, unpalatable, altho’ I do like Manhattans.
ISTR that we had vermouth and gin, on the top shelf in a cupboard, for my uncle who would come through every so often, on his way home from somewhere in the Far East. (He was a senior engineer at an offshore drilling company.)
Xavier Becerra Attorney General of California is Biden’s pick for Health and Human Services. I guess we can give him up, now that he won’t have Trump to sue anymore.
Means that he won’t be able to go after Big Ag (and Newsom) for things like killing the Delta. Which he should have done already.
Ugh. Was never that crazy about Becerra.
Well, better HHS than AG.
I’m sure some of it is payment for his relentless sueing of Trump and the administration.
Oh, he was never going to be AG.
I see that Clyburn is lobbying Biden for Marcia Fudge to be named AG. That would be a huge mistake. Fudge is far less qualified than Alberto Gonzales or Whitaker.
I just had a sickening thought- would Biden be stupid enough to appoint James Comey as AG?
I don’t think so.
I thought he wanted Fudge for USDA. Which seemed like a great choice.
It was on TV, not in print, so perhaps I misheard it. USDA would make sense.
Fudge seems committed and an excellent networker. But what qualifications does a former suburban Cleveland mayor and now congresscritter have to run the USDA, DoJ or HHS?
If the issue is how close she is to Biden and how well tied in she is into networks on the Hill, that’s’s one thing. But, as with Becerra, she would need a solid deputy, who knows the substantive stuff.
Apparently Fudge gets HUD.
There’s someone less qualified than Whitaker?
P.s. on Twitter I mentioned Whittaker and someone replied with a photo of 1950’s horror movie actor Tor Johnson. A side-by-side view does look like they were separated at birth.
Believe it or not, yes!
Reportedly Becerra was backing Medicare for All. (It may be payment for Bernie.)
Good for California. It’s not obvious what background he has that’s suitable for HHS. Biden should have looked for a medically-qualified, younger version of Fauci. Maybe that’s the profile Becerra should demand as deputy head of HHS.
What a great tee shirt. “BEYOND BATSHIT”
Rumors are flying that Billy Barr wants out before he’s fired.
Barr doesn’t want to deal with the mountains of paperwork he’s generated; let some other poor slob organize the mess!
Poor Rudy. Been thinking of his fondness for cigars. At his age, with Covid, he’ll be very lucky to recover.
Aesthetically hypnotizing (with calmth) pictures:
“Thread of the most beautiful Libraries of the World 1. The Royal Portuguese Cabinet of Reading , Rio De Janeiro. Credit: Alamy …”
AZ GOP tweeting dangerously:
John Fetterman: “The AZ GOP put out a casting call for martyrs over Twitter. This is truly bonkers and unbelievably dangerous. I’ve been saying all along about how *punitive* it is to be a Republican who just simply acknowledges electoral *reality*.”
Arizona Republican Party: “He is. Are you?”
Quoting the “National Organizer for Stop the Steal”:
“I am willing to give my life for this fight.”
Balance any cranky with this delightful tragi-comedy:
Vinny Thomas (With Eggnog!): “The Galactic Federation interviews Earth for membership [video]”
12:19 AM · Dec 8, 2020