Judge Maryellen Noreika Prepares for a Hunter Biden Trial … without Bates Stamps

A series of decisions came down today in the Hunter Biden gun case that tee up the case for trial starting on June 3.

Those were:

  • A Third Circuit order denying his bid for an interlocutory appeal
  • A scheduling order hewing to the previous schedule to start trial on June 3
  • Judge Maryellen Noreika’s order denying Hunter’s motion to dismiss on Second Amendment grounds
  • Noreika’s order denying all Hunter’s requests for discovery
  • Two oral orders scheduling a status conference to deal with major issues on which the deadline has already passed:

ORAL ORDER: Defendant’s counsel has represented that he is unavailable to appear at the in-person May 10, 2024 status conference set in the Court’s Scheduling Order ( 112 ). Although the government objects to moving the conference, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the status conference is rescheduled for Tuesday May 14, 2024 at 11:00 am in Courtroom 4B. Defendant is not required to attend.

Virtually all of these should be regarded as expected to presumed. For example, while it wasn’t clear whether Noreika would rule on the 2A challenge before trial (Abbe Lowell had invited her not to), she relied on a recent 8th Circuit appeal to deny his motion, which made it far easier.

The Third Circuit appeal was unsurprising, and involved two Democratic appointees, including a judge — Cindy Chung — appointed by Hunter’s father. I think Hunter has a very good argument on a number of these points on appeal, but little basis to argue for interlocutory appeal.

Parts of the discovery order, however, are different. To be sure, many of these were expected. Having denied Hunter’s selective prosecution (while relying on evidence from Rudy Giuliani and falsely attributing it to Hunter’s memoir!!), it’s unsurprising that Noreika denied his discovery requests about Rudy’s role in the side channel that led to the Alexander Smirnov tip and therefore the collapse of the plea deal. It is nearly impossible to get discovery on grand jury proceedings, not even in a courthouse where a key staffer has it out for a defendant’s dad (which Abbe Lowell didn’t mention and may not know), so it’s unsurprising it failed here. Judges generally rely, as Noreika did, on prosecutors’ assurances they have complied with Brady, even in cases where it’s clear that AUSAs have been sheep-dipped so they don’t learn about Brady.

The degree to which David Weiss sat in a courtroom watching prosecutors make claims he knew to be false will all be ripe on appeal. But it’s not now.

Noreika’s order that prosecutors can sandbag Hunter with 404(b) material (describing otherwise incriminating details, which I expect will include an account from a sex worker in California about Hunter having a gun there, and probably other things from his memoir) a week before trial is churlish, but the kind of thing you might expect after you’ve threatened to mandamus a judge. It is totally within her purview, which is why it so risky to attempt to mandamus a judge before trial.

The one decision that surprises me is Noreika’s decision not to order prosecutors to tell Hunter where they’ve gotten evidence from the laptop.

Defendant closes his motion with a request that the government be ordered to “generally point defense counsel” to where, on a forensic image of Defendant’s “Apple MacBook Pro,” certain text and photographs can be located. (D.I. 83 at 18). That forensic image was produced to Defendant in October 2023 without an index, without any Bates stamps and without any indication of what will be used at trial. (Id. at 17). Although the government produced the laptop in the specific format requested by Defendant (D.I. 86 at 19), he complains that he has been unable to locate on the image certain text and photographs relied upon by the government (D.I. 83 at 17-18). In its opposition, the government provides an exhibit with images and annotations that appears to identify where the information resides on the laptop. (See D.I. 86 at Ex. 1). As best the Court can tell, this response satisfied Defendant, and there are no further outstanding requests with respect to the laptop. (See D.I. 89 at 19-20 (recognizing that the government has no index and expressing appreciation for the government’s disclosure of location of information)). Therefore, Defendant’s request as applied to the Apple MacBook Pro appears moot.

Given that Noreika has relied on laptop-derived evidence while ruling that Rudy didn’t have any influence in this case, this alarms me.

For reasons I don’t understand, after threatening to file a motion to suppress the laptop, Abbe Lowell has not done so. But the admissions Derek Hines made so far make it clear he has already relied on material that may violate US v. Riley not to mention material that will be ripe for other evidentiary challenges. And that came before the Robert Savage lawsuit made it clear this investigation has been tainted by fabricated evidence.

The decision not to move to suppress laptop evidence is Abbe Lowell’s. I can’t pretend to understand that choice.

Nevertheless, if prosecutors try to rely on laptop-based evidence, as they did extensively in defeating Hunter’s motion to dismiss, the decision to let prosecutors proceed without Bates stamps seems wildly ill-considered — all the more so given that they relied on evidence that arguably should have been treated as privileged and claimed sawdust was cocaine.

At the very least, it’ll dramatically raise the import of expert disclosure, which hasn’t even started, because someone from Hunter’s team and from the government team are going to have to argue at trial about whether every bit of evidence is reliable or is, instead, potentially the result of hacking. And it risks bogging down the trial. Thus far, the government hasn’t committed — at all!! — to have someone testify about why someone allegedly called John Paul Mac Issac to find out how to break into the machine before they had a warrant, about why they never took basic forensic steps with the laptop. If they intend to rely on laptop based evidence without Bates stamps, it will dramatically intensify any effort to admit this evidence.

Like I said, almost all of these decisions could be expected. They tee up a trial that will be enormously damaging to the President’s son.

But they also lay out decisions that I believe are incredibly ripe for appeal … after trial.

Update: Judge Mark Scarsi has denied David Weiss’ demand that Scarsi make Hunter adhere to the existing pretrial schedule. Hunter’s bid for interlocutory appeal is slightly less of a longshot in the 9th Circuit, though threatens to hold Hunter to existing deadlines.

To be clear, the Court has not vacated the pretrial schedule, and absent a request for relief, Mr. Biden ignores the Court’s orders at his own peril. If the Ninth Circuit dismisses the interlocutory appeal for lack of jurisdiction, the Court intends to proceed to trial without significant delay.

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44 replies
  1. Bad Boris says:

    Prosecution wouldn’t go into this case all laissez faire-like just because they wanted a “win”, knowing they could later claim their loss on appeal was SOD’s fault, right?

    • emptywheel says:

      I promise you that two very dickish prosecutors are going into it planning to dirty up Hunter as much as they can so they can point to a jury verdict to try to prevent an appeal overturning this case.

      • Shadowalker says:

        If they can get conviction. Which is far from certain. Another thought occurred to me, we don’t know how Weiss does in court. Or does he use pressure to get a plea? It’s up to the accuser to prove guilt and if he relies on pictures of sawdust to prove the case, he’s only going to piss the jury off for wasting their time. Just like Durham did, twice.

        • emptywheel says:

          I think it likely they’ll get a conviction. The reasons why David Weiss wasn’t going to prosecute this is because it was counterproductive, not because he didn’t have Hunter dead to rights on being an addict.

          The PROBLEM with the prosecution is not the evidence. It’s that Jim Jordan demanded, and got it.

        • Shadowalker says:

          “ As alleged in count one of the indictment, Hunter Biden knowingly made a false written statement on the Form 4473, intended and likely to deceive the dealer he purchased the firearm from, when he certified that he was not an unlawful user of, or addicted to, any stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance. In fact, he knew that statement was false, according to the indictment. In count two of the indictment, Hunter Biden is alleged to have knowingly made a false statement and representation to a federally licensed firearms dealer with respect to information the dealer is required to keep under federal law. Count three of the indictment alleges that during an 11-day period between Oct. 12 and Oct. 23, 2018, Hunter Biden possessed a firearm while knowing he was an unlawful user of or addicted to any stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance, in violation of federal law.”

          They have to prove he knew for all 3 counts. Would be open and shut if they had even a citation for simple drug possession, and I’m pretty sure they sent people to surrounding local jurisdictions looking for such evidence.

  2. NYsportsfanSufferer says:

    I’m confused as to why they even need to laptop to begin with. Don’t they have texts between Hallie and Hunter from that 11 day window? That would just require phone records.

    Seems Weiss and co want to completely humiliate Hunter but are they walking into a trap by bringing in possibly fabricated material and data that was hacked? These prosecutors are not going after justice, they are trying to smear Biden’s son in an election year.

    And all this could have been avoided if Congress would pass a law requiring mandatory drug tests as part of the background check.

      • NYsportsfanSufferer says:

        Really? Can’t you get the texts through Apple via subpoena? It just seems they shouldn’t need the laptop for this case. If I were prosecuting the case I want nothing to do with the laptop and would only admit verified phone records through Apple. And if the Hallie/Hunter texts are not in the phone records then it makes me think they are not real. Kind of like the SS agent texts to Hunter were not real.

        • emptywheel says:

          Nope. Not least bc, on account of Hunter’s phones being lost/stolen days before, he wasn’t using his normal phone.

        • NYsportsfanSufferer says:

          For some reason I can’t reply to your last comment so I’ll put it here

          If he’s using a different phone with the same number everything would transfer to the laptop via iCloud but it would also be in phone records. If he has a new number (not likely) it wouldn’t transfer to the laptop unless he updates his information in the account.

          Why would prosecutors not use the phone records and completely omit any risk of the laptop tainting their evidence? I must be missing something because it doesn’t make sense to me. They really shouldn’t need to laptop to find the evidence to prosecute this. And, as you have pointed out, there may be 4A issues with the laptop as well.

        • P J Evans says:

          You’d have to read her posts about the phones and how fcked up the records are – that’s part of the problem, is that it appears someone got into the phones and was altering stuff.

      • NYsportsfanSufferer says:

        I have read those posts and I agree with you. That’s why I question why Weiss and co are even risking it if they are serious about a conviction. Or are they just trying to humiliate Hunter.

        Imagine yourself sitting on the jury and Lowell brings in a forensic data expert to tell you the laptop was hacked and manipulated and that Hunter lost his phone during this critical 11 day time period. I need to see the phone records to believe the governments argument, not a tainted laptop. Prosecutors need 12 people to say yes he committed this crime and bringing in a tainted laptop doesn’t help them.

  3. Peterr says:

    If I know the difference between sawdust and cocaine, does that mean I might qualify as an expert?

      • Peterr says:

        When I think of overqualified folks, I think of people I know who could tell you what kind of tree the sawdust came from, and others who could say the same about the source of the cocaine.

        Let’s just say I know a wide spectrum of people.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          I’ll bet you could identify the ash of 140 types of cigar, pipe, and cigarette tobacco.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      It makes you too attached to the truth to be a useful pawn, whether in business or politics.

  4. Spencer Dawkins says:

    I’m not smart about the details at play here (I read emptywheel faithfully, but I had one or two semesters of business law, half a century ago).

    If your strategy as a prosecutor is to tar Hunter Biden (and dad) in a trial, and you don’t care whether the verdict gets overturned, and the judge lets you start the trial with the issues you’re pointing out still open, how much control do you have over the defense team raising all of these issues during the trial, and trying the case in the press?

    I’m visualizing Lowell asking questions like “so, can you SHOW the court the laptop(s)?” or “how do you KNOW that this is Hunter Biden’s laptop(s)?” or “how do you know that Hunter Biden dropped off the laptop(s), and not someone else?”, etc. (just to point to one area of concern, of many).

  5. OldTulsaDude says:

    If you’ve run out of luck
    the cops are here for the bust
    sawdust
    If you feel like a nut
    and you’re all filled with lust
    sawdust
    It’s a must, It’s a must, it’s a must
    sawdust

  6. Tech Support says:

    Based on all I’ve read here and previously, it seems like suppressing the laptop isn’t the lever that will turn this case from a conviction to an acquittal… but allowing the prosecution to rely on deeply tainted evidence to secure the conviction will turbo charge the appeal.

    • Shadowalker says:

      If the laptop is not necessary to prove the case, then why is it being used? Not acquittal, but it makes it more likely the jury is hung.

  7. zscoreUSA says:

    What’s the deal with the staffer at the Delaware courthouse who has it out for President Biden?

    And what’s the source for Hunter having a gun in California?

    • emptywheel says:

      Gun in CA is laptop — the picture of him with a gun.

      Can’t explain the courthouse staffer.

      • zscoreUSA says:

        Where on laptop is the CA gun? I don’t recall.

        The only photo of him with a gun that I am familiar with was taken in Pennsylvania.

        • zscoreUSA says:

          Correction: the photo I am familiar with is from Newark, Delaware, per the Marco Polo Report.

  8. zscoreUSA says:

    As far as whether Hunter was hacked, this may be as good a time as any to bring up something that I noticed a couple of months ago. And I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere yet.

    Hunter’s so called 3rd laptop, the one stolen by Russian drug dealers in Las Vegas in August 2018, might not be a laptop. It might be the iPad Dimitrelos lists as “Robert’s iPad” (serial DLXQL4EUGMLD).

    The stolen device is first ID’d as a laptop stolen by a Russian drug dealer by the Daily Mail (Josh Boswell) in August 2021. And from there people just regurgitate that it’s a 3rd laptop. Mac Isaac being the 1st laptop, and Ablow being the 2nd laptop. The narrative set of 3 lost laptops.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210812011817/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9881213/Unearthed-video-shows-naked-Hunter-Biden-claiming-Russian-drug-dealers-stole-laptop.html

    • zscoreUSA says:

      The evidence that its an iPad instead of a MacBook:

      1) The article itself quotes a 1/6/19 recording of Hunter saying it was a “computer” stolen, Hunter doesn’t use the word “laptop”. “computer” could be used colloquially for iPad

      2) Hunter says the Russian drug dealer had been allowed by Hunter to use a “passcode” to login to the device and gain access to financial information and videos; my limited experience with Apple involves using a passcode for iPad or iPhone but a password for a laptop. People with more experience could correct me if I am wrong there

      3) The day after the device was stolen, there is an email notification that “Robert’s iPad” is being erased. No similar email saying “Roberts MacBook” is being erased (the then current laptop used by Hunter)
      https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/07/08/the-laptop-everyone-knows-as-hunter-bidens-appears-to-have-been-deleted-starting-february-15-2019/

      4) One of the 2 “Robert’s iPad”, it is the only non-laptop mobile device Dimitrelos lists twice. It gets re-associated with the Apple ID in mid January while Hunter is at Ablow’s. Midway through Hunter’s month at The Cottage so he isn’t at a familial home in Delaware finding an old device. It is one of 3 devices that Dimitrelos lists as current as of mid March when the Mac Isaac laptop stopped working. And for some reason, the iPad’s “Last Heartbeat IP” Is to Ablow’s Cottage, which Hunter left in early February

      5) The odd screenshot showing that the devices currently able to back up Hunter’s Apple data are “Robert’s iPad” and the Mac Isaac laptop. On the Marco Polo website, in the album Laptop Photos, there’s a strange screenshot of a json raw data file “file:///Users/roberthunter/Downloads/Recovery Devices 2[.]json”, taken on a MacBook Pro per dimensions, dated 2/16/19. It lists those 2 devices by serial number and “message: “Success””, with open to “Password Required Please enter your master password ” dialog box, with password typed in but obscured

      This last point just seems really odd that a regular person would take that screenshot.

      If this stolen device was indeed an iPad, then the laptop Hunter was using at the time might not have been stolen, and might have remained in Hunter’s possession.

    • zscoreUSA says:

      Another interesting point with this Daily Mail article is how it identifies the woman who Hunter is telling, on 1/6/19, about the stolen device. Hunter tells the woman that the Russian drug dealer might try to sell salacious videos of Hunter for millions. The woman tells Hunter maybe he should “beat him to the punch” and release his own video. To de-value the material to the Russian drug dealer.

      The article refers to her as “prostitute” and “hooker”, but I don’t know if that is accurate. Elsewhere in text messages she is referred to as a friend and a “chick… who likes the same things I like”. Based on the texts released it appears Hunter is paying for one of the cell phones she is using to contact him. I am unaware of Venmo or Cash app payments to her. So possibly not even a prostitute. She appears in many of the home videos and is likely in the room with Hunter when that Hunter app emails it has access to emails and emails to her from Hunter’s email (based on timestamps in the Marco Polo Report.) And with him in the photo with the gun pose.

      Why that detail matters?

      In late 2020/early 2021, Rudy (or someone else) put together a crew of people to look at Hunter’s laptop, after the election. One of the things they came out with, is that they were actually in contact with Hunter’s “prime hooker” and other prostitutes in real time, and around January 1, 2019, encouraged her to get Hunter to put his data out there. So that Hunter’s sins can be exposed, so that Hunter can then be healed. Clearly referring to the conversation the Daily Mail reported above.

      Rudy, or someone else, may have put that crew together to come up with a cover story for why Hunter abandoned his laptop with Mac Isaac. They also claim to have had access to Hunter’s data in real time, so that’s interesting as well, if true, then they would have been connected with someone who had hacked or stolen Hunter’s data in real time.

  9. Bob Roundhead says:

    “The degree to which David Weiss sat in a courtroom watching prosecutors make claims he knew to be false will all be ripe on appeal”. I would think this would be worthy of some sort of sanction on his part. Most of us non lawyers think that Allowing false testimony is beyond the scope of legality and is cause for punishment. I am probably wrong though

  10. Upisdown says:

    Does the prosecution have any evidence of his drug usage other than the memoir and the laptop?

    • EatenByGrues says:

      Has any been presented pre-trial? I assume that if any such evidence is forthcoming, most likely a witness to him using drugs with sufficient frequency to suggest addiction, the defense would have advance warning of it.

      How much evidentiary value should be given to a memoir (the text of which is not under oath), especially one written by a party that the prosecution cannot compel to testimony, is a good question.

  11. EatenByGrues says:

    Obviously, this is a selective prosecution, designed to procure a conviction prior to the election for political reasons, even though I imagined the appellate bench will be far kinder to the younger Mr. Biden, either overturning this face or greatly reducing any sentence that might be imposed, though any such thing will occur after the election, when it is far less politically useful. The trials (other than one) of the guy actually running for office may be effectively delayed by various procedural hijinks, including one corrupt judge; the trial for the guy who ISN’T running for office (and which concerns behavior unrelated to the defendant’s relative who is) is going to happen on schedule.

    And technically, of course, Hunter Biden is almost certainly guilty of the various things he’s accused of–he was an addict in possession of a firearm, and he was delinquent in paying his taxes. Addicts do stupid things, which is why such crimes are seldom charged. But since he’s the son of the POTUS, he’s getting not only the book thrown at him, but the entire library. Again, convictions on pretty much all of this are not likely to survive appeal unscathed, but that’s not the point.

    But given that the Other Side, both in this case and in the various Trump trials, routinely plays dirty legal pool, at what point does Lowell consider throwing spanners in the legal works himself? Such as things like trying to taint the jury and force a mistrial by e.g. accusing Weiss of prosecutorial misconduct during closing argument and/or otherwise inviting jury nullification? Juries are generally only suppose to decide and consider the Facts Of The Case and never question the motives of the prosecutor, but this entire case is BS, and a travesty of justice. I know we liberals are supposed to adhere to the Superhero Code and only use our fists even when the bad guys are using guns, but given what Team Trump gets up to and gets away with, what is the downside? Lowell’s not going to either go to prison or lose his license over such a stunt. If a mistrial were declared, in either case, how soon before a second trial occurs?

  12. Rugger_9 says:

    Did Lowell have to file the motion to suppress in limine or can he poke holes in the chain of evidence at trial? I can’t imaging Lowell would make a rookie mistake otherwise.

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  14. NYsportsfanSufferer says:

    Has anyone actually read Hunter’s memoir? Does he even mention owning a gun or are they just using it to say he was on drugs? If he does mention owning the gun what was the context? From what I understand he seems to have had times of sobriety and was in and out of rehab during the 4 or 5 years of addiction after his brother died.

    • Shadowalker says:

      “ From what I understand he seems to have had times of sobriety and was in and out of rehab during the 4 or 5 years of addiction after his brother died.”

      There’s the rub, is it possible he was sober (or thought he was) during that period of time?

      • NYsportsfanSufferer says:

        It is possible. Which is why the texts between Hallie and Hunter matter and not using the phone records but the laptop is weird. There is also no drug test which would be the definitive smoking gun. Addicts don’t admit to themselves that they are addicts. And if he did relapse was it drugs or alcohol? He’s both a recovering drug addict and alcoholic.

        Do I think Hunter owned a gun while using drugs? It’s probable. Beyond a reasonable doubt though? I’m not sure.

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