Disaster Democracy: Can Something Be Salvaged from Trump’s Meltdown?

The WaPo has two panicked pieces about Trump.

First, there’s a David Ignatius column that correctly notes we’re in a really dangerous place until Biden’s win is certified (I’d say, until Inauguration). Along the way, Ignatius points to a terrifying possibility that might (or might not) explain a sudden Kash Patel flight: that he was being considered to replace Chris Wray.

Kash Patel, chief of staff to acting defense secretary Christopher C. Miller, returned home “abruptly” from an Asia trip in early December, according to Fox News correspondent Jennifer Griffin. Patel didn’t explain, but in mid-December Trump discussed with colleagues the possibility that Patel might replace Christopher A. Wray as FBI director, one official said. Wray remains in his job.

And another terrifying possibility that, Ignatius notes, is just speculation: that Trump’s flunkies may have tried to split NSA and CyberComm to install Ezra Cohen-Watnick as the head of NSA.

But why did Trump loyalists suggest the NSA-Cyber Command split in the first place? Some officials speculate that the White House may have planned to install a new NSA chief, perhaps Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the young conservative recently installed to oversee Pentagon intelligence activities.

To stave off these terrifying, but unsubstantiated, possibilities, Ignatius advises that some wise Republicans go to the White House and tell Trump to stop.

Trump won’t succeed in subverting the Constitution, but he can do enormous damage over the next weeks. Before Jan. 6, a delegation of senior Republicans should visit him at the White House and insist, emphatically: Biden has won. This must stop.

Meanwhile, another WaPo piece describes the vacuum at the White House as Trump ignores people — like Steve Mnuchin — who’ve long been able to coax some actual responsible policy actions out of him, the kind of people Ignatius might have in mind to talk to sense into Trump.

Mostly, this story is one of a long line of stories on how Trump repays loyalty with humiliation.

His demand for $2,000 stimulus checks is a direct rejection of the $600 checks that Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin had personally proposed and negotiated with Democrats and Republicans. Now, Trump’s rejection of the deal has confounded many leaders on Capitol Hill because they had thought Mnuchin negotiated the package on behalf of the president. The treasury chief’s standing with many lawmakers is now in tatters just days before a full-blown crisis is set to occur.

The president’s denunciation of the agreement represented a stunning public broadside against his own treasury secretary, who for four years loyally shielded the president’s tax returns, endured repeated presidential tirades in private, and defended even Trump’s most incendiary and contradictory remarks. Through it all, Mnuchin had emerged with the unique ability to walk a tightrope between Trump and congressional leaders, serving as an emissary in difficult negotiations. That all ended on Tuesday, when Trump posted a video on Twitter ridiculing the agreement.

But the more important bit describes how Trump decided, on his own, to blow up the bill that Mnuchin had negotiated. Mark Meadows helped him do so, even though he opposed both Trump’s call for $2,000 checks and (I think) the vindictive video blowing up the bill itself.

Trump’s shocking move to possibly blow up the agreement appears to have been his idea alone, according to two people briefed on the matter by White House staff.

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who had earlier this month successfully talked Trump out of demanding $2,000 stimulus payments, helped orchestrate the video released by the White House. But Meadows did not come up with the idea for it and was widely seen internally as opposing the move, according to two people with direct knowledge of the matter.

That is, in the midst of a story describing how yet another loyal Trump supporter was treated like shit (as were the Republicans in Congress who believed Mnuchin could speak for Trump), WaPo describes how Trump is vindictively staging confrontations in defiance of the advice from his closest advisors, with no care for the millions of Americans who get harmed in the process.

This is the man the Republican party has loyally defended in the face of ever increasing allegations of corruption and disloyalty to the country, repaying their loyalty by blowing up their attempt to feign concern about struggling Americans just in time for the Georgia run-off.

It is undeniable we’re in a dangerous place right now — because of the armed gangs supporting the President, because he’d love to start a war on his way out, because his temper tantrum is having very real effects for human beings.

But for better and worse, there are no responsible Republicans — or even immediate family members — who can save the day. Those who know Trump best have left town in an attempt to dissociate themselves from what is coming that will leave lasting damage for Joe Biden to clean up.

Nevertheless, we’ve reached an important moment, where Trump has turned on virtually all remaining institutional parts of the Republican party, from the judges and justices he installed to the Senators who refused to call him on his attempt to coerce Ukraine. Yes, we will still have Matt Gaetz and Jim Jordan, yes, we will newly have Tommy Tuberville.

But significant parts of the Republican party will, because of this tantrum, be prepared to turn on him as soon as he loses the power of the Presidency. And that may provide a way out.

Naomi Klein invented a term “Disaster Capitalism” for the way members of both parties use disasters as an opportunity to loot or facilitate future looting. That’s a risk here. But Republicans will have an incentive to distance themselves from Trump. And that may provide an opening to recover from Trumpism.

77 replies
  1. joel fisher says:

    Strange times indeed when these count as the “good news”:
    1) I don’t believe Trump ever cared enough about the mechanics of running the government to learn the details of who does what in the area of national security. This threat would be more concerning if he actually knew the people who could be ordered to confine or kill–that’s what happens in a coup–the line personnel necessary to be successful. And if those people were willing to risk their lives/freedom for Trump. How many mid-level government national security workers would want to participate? Sure, some probably support Trump, but how many would commit a crime for him?
    2) It’s entirely possible–did I say “possible”, I meant “certain”–the post election “stop the steal” BS is a fraud meant to collect money from his moron supporters.
    3) Fat, stupid QAnon supporters with AK-47s (and perhaps an explosive camper or two) are certainly out there–and might be in DC on 1/20/21–they would be willing to commit crimes, and they could cause grievous damage, but they couldn’t stop Biden from taking the oath.

    To summarize the “good news”: Trump, while lazy, is a genius at stealing, and his vile supporters might kill people in DC on 1/21.

    • P J Evans says:

      They’re being encouraged to show up in DC on Jan 6 – apparently a mob of gun-toting crazies will totally change the EC results!

      • Norskeflamthrower says:

        “…there will be a means to demonize him for what has happened.” YES!! There IS going to be bloodshed but it must be turned against itself.

      • skua says:

        There’s a possibility I hadn’t seen – Trump sets the Q-AK47ers up and then proclaims them martyrs, and lies that it’s all Biden’s fault.

    • Montana Voter says:

      While I don’t disagree with your assessment of Trump’s interest level in government, I think it is clear that someone in addition to Steve Miller is taking his fulminations and honing them into very destructive manipulation of our government. He probably has plenty of whispers in his ear to guide his anger and cruelty in many directions. They egg him on, act on his behalf and praise him for the results.
      Not sure who is doing it but there is no question that it is being directed by someone.
      The consistent removal of the experts in investigation of both organized rime and Russia at DOJ and the elimination of competence at the State department clearly demonstrate this.

      • subtropolis says:

        Yes, he is too ignorant to have navigated this destruction on his own. What’s been happening at the Pentagon, and within the IC, is troubling. I hope people are taking notes about what they’re seeing.

      • cavenewt says:

        …”I think it is clear that someone in addition to Steve Miller is taking his fulminations and honing them into very destructive manipulation of our government. He probably has plenty of whispers in his ear to guide his anger and cruelty in many directions. They egg him on, act on his behalf and praise him for the results.”

        That has the ring of truthiness. In addition, of course, doing so in such a way that Trump can still enrich himself in the process.

    • Raven Eye says:

      “2) It’s entirely possible–did I say “possible”, I meant “certain”–the post election “stop the steal” BS is a fraud meant to collect money from his moron supporters.”

      One of the continuing Trump themes is his love of OPM — Other Peoples’ Money.

      • joel fisher says:

        Were I in charge of the DC Police, I’d be looking for (and in) rental vans here and there around the city.

  2. Rapier says:

    The Covid relief and government funding bills were passed on the 21st. That gives Trump until the 30th to sign or veto them. If he doesn’t sign and doesn’t veto they become law.

    If Trump is serious then he will veto on the 30th and who knows how fast or if the Senate would vote to override. Meanwhile governance degrades even more with various government shutdowns and a probable financial world upset.

    Then bring the Kraken into the capital on the 6th. If he’s serious.

    • RedTailHawk says:

      I’m not sure your dates are correct. The 10 days doesn’t include Sundays and, IIRC, the bill was flown down to Florida on Thursday (12/24). That would make January 4th the 10th day which is after the current Congress. If I’m correct, it becomes a ‘pocket veto’ (i.e. does not become law) if Trump doesn’t sign.

    • subtropolis says:

      I believe the countdown is to the 2nd or 3rd. Sundays are not counted among the ten-day “pocket veto” period. I do think that he’ll allow it to run out. He’s not interested in $2000 checks (unless they’re to him). This is all about fucking over the GoP.

      I noticed that Lin Wood is now going after Meadows! The poor “creation science” goober just can’t catch a break, despite his loyalty. This is fun to watch, despite the terror of what’s coming next.

    • Dmbeaster says:

      The countdown started on 12/24 which is when the final bill was presented to the White House – not as of the 12/21 vote. Ten days to veto is twelve days later because you do not count Sundays. The last day to veto is Jan. 5, but since Congress ends on Jan. 3, he can do nothing and pocket veto it.

    • cavenewt says:

      It’s now 10:30pm ET on 12/27 and both NYT and NPR are reporting that he signed the bill. But also that he’s redlining stuff ($2000 checks!) and insisting on changes, after he signed it. How does that even work?

      Is any of this about Georgia or is it all pure spite? $600 is just a drop in the bucket and I would vastly prefer $2000 personally, but it’s not worth it to give up the Senate.

  3. Norskeflamthrower says:

    The Georgia senate election(s) are critical. With both senate seats, Biden and elected Democratic leadership can use the first 100 days for executive orders and extended Covid relief packages as a way to stabilize the economy and prepare for the 2022 congressional elections that can provide the congressional majorities necessary to make the revolutionary structural changes that can really save us going forward. I have long worried about coordinated and ongoing bloodshed targeted not only on urban populations but against elected officials and court officials both federal and state over the next two years. With nominal control of the Senate, the Biden administration will be in a much better position to contain the insurrectionists and mobilize political support in extended urban populations.

  4. Savage Librarian says:

    Out of Whack

    Magnetic north, is it out of whack,
    a shifting pole for the zodiac?
    As it looks it seems on track,
    closer to Russia’s maniac.

    And in the Farmers’ Almanac
    checking in from way back,
    That lost needle in the haystack
    is yearning for its own payback.

    What about the cul de sac,
    or the folks from Freddie Mac,
    or Wall Street wizards’ hushed tack:
    grifters dependent on kickback.

    Empty stations, no click clack,
    Who will come to fill the slack?
    No hopscotch and no tic tac
    toe, just hostile men with a bumper jack

    When it comes time to hit the sack
    we hope we’re not insomniac,
    Popping stress tabs on a bubble pack,
    while watching some crazed TV hack.

    Who caused this inhumane hijack:
    a creeping, festering, barbaric quack,
    a serial predator on attack.
    We hope Uncle Sam still has our back.

      • Savage Librarian says:

        Hey, Ginevra, I can’t speak for timbo, but “ack” seems like a vocal expression of a synonym for “yikes” or “yuck.” It’s all good to me.

        If you really want something to drive yourself nuts, I have an animated poem that might encourage you to try one of your own. It is composed of “dancing” letters that cozy up to neighboring letters, then return to their respective “families.”

        The result is similar to how a crossword puzzle might daydream about the nuances of human conversation and neurolinguistic programming. As a millennial friend told me, “ That has at least 3 levels.”

        It only has one rhyme, but lots of innuendo. And there are sound effects and music. It’s very short but might be more effective as an element of a short story, novel or screenplay. But chances are that will never happen. Now you can try to imagine what the heck I’m talking about.

  5. subtropolis says:

    Nunes troublemaker Cohen-Watnick was recently appointed to be the next chairman of the nine-person Public Interest Declassification Board at the National Archives. Biden ought to immediately revoke his security clearances, then shitcan that appointment. On the basis that he doesn’t have the proper clearances, naturally.

    And Kash Patel as FBI Director! Yikes! Another one whose clearances should be dropped like a hot stone on Jan. 20.

    • readerOfTeaLeaves says:

      Actually, I find this extremely interesting.

      How stupid of them to make it clear how desperately they wanted to control the Public Interest Declassification Board at the National Archives.

  6. Peterr says:

    I’m really nervous about the next month internationally. Anywhere an adventurous government (or non-state organization) thinks that the US is distracted, look for mischief.

    For example, Bibi Netanyahu’s government is breaking apart, but even so, the Israeli military is sending rockets into Gaza and Hezbullah believes he will strike them before Trump leaves office.

    And all of this is happening while new mutations of COVID-19 are cropping up and various vaccines are rolling out around the world — both of which would beg for increased international cooperation, not less of it. Until Jan 20, however, any US participation like that will be despite, not because of, Donald Trump.

    • YinzerInExile says:

      For those of us who are military families with loved ones overseas, it’s impossible to overstate just how much we worry about this very risk — both in the form of provocation from foreign actors, and in the form of adventurism by the president and his manifestly unqualified national security team. As much as anything in the world today, this is what keeps me up at night.

      • Yancy says:

        Amen to that sentiment.
        However, now I’m afraid for all of us. Hopefully the DOD is controlling COVID exposure and not answering the phones quite as quickly, (but now we’re flirting with Iran 😫.)
        Closer to home and applicable to all of us is the train derailment we are inevitably in a headlong rush towards death, carnage and destruction.
        Nobody is doing anything to reduce the odds or levels of damage we are and will face. Trump didn’t want the work or the potential criticism, so he passed the buck to the 50 states, as well as persuaded “his” GOP governors who gladly downplayed the danger, lied about all of their statistics, called it a hoax, and anyone who complied with masking, distancing, staying home became an instant and infamous PUSSY.
        DeSantis likewise passed the responsibility for COVID tests and now for the planning, logistics & acquisition of supplies required to distribute vaccinations – to each county. I live in a pitiful, poor, underserved, rural NE FL county. Our county’s EOC & DOH offices CANNOT DO THIS!
        I worked for FL DOH before it was gutted financially.
        We just wait around until we die, I guess. Or pray Biden can pull off several miracles.
        I’ve rambled too long, but I am honestly afraid. Of COVID & also the crazies planning some absurd civil war.
        May god damn Donald Trump every day.

      • J R in WV says:

        I have a RWNJ nephew serving as a USN Lt on board a submarine. Part of his daily working uniform is an issue sidearm.

        My best friend’s son-in-law is in the Army. Fortunately on the west coast, as opposed to one the many foreign duty stations where he could be located.

        I am a veteran having served in the USN from 1970-73, and carried an issue .45 myself. Liberal yellow dog democrat veteran with a concealed carry permit.

        I’m scared shit-less and will remain so for the next month, until Biden and Harris take charge, take names and fix things. Hundreds of federal staff need to have their clearances revoked on the afternoon of January 20, 2021. Fired, also, too! Executive orders dated from Jan-20-2017 to Jan-20-2021 revoked, null and void.

  7. Anomalous Cowherd says:

    Isn’t there some DSM category “oppositional something something?”

    Just asking for a friend ….

    • posaune says:

      Oppositional Defiance Disorder.

      I know a RW evangelical with 8 kids (wife homeschools them all),
      and 4 out of the 8 kids have dx of ODD. Imagine that.

      • PhoneInducedPinkEye says:

        I have coworkers like that and have always silently wondered how the kids are going to do when they go to college/leave the house. One spies on all his teenage daughters electronic communication, seems really creepy to me.

        How wouldn’t you end up with ODD? And at what point does the doc just say, “You are an asshole and that is why your kids don’t listen to you.”?

      • ThoughtMail says:

        A few years back, a neighbor’s kid, about 4 years old, whenever he was outside in public would spend most of his time screaming at everything, literally. A fair proportion of that was in tormenting his younger sister, who was perpetually crying.

        At one point (because he was disturbing all the neighbors) I took it upon myself to speak to her about the disturbances, despite my assessment that she probably wouldn’t listen, at all.

        What I said, basically: “It’s a bit of a problem for you, I understand. I’m going to tell you your fortune. He’s going to be 35, without a job and without friends, and living with you. Is that what you want?”

        Her: ??????

        I’ll not take credit for the fact that the problem has since resolved. Maturity, perhaps (mother AND child)? Perhaps a good “lifter”?

        Thankful for small blessings.

    • Stacey says:

      Yes, half the time I think that’s how Trump figures out which way to go next…someone tells him “whatever you do, Mr. President, do NOT do X” and his ODD kicks in and he immediately directs anyone around him including the guy who just handed him his 9th Diet Coke of the day, to make THAT happen! Then he sits back and smiles like a psychopath with a plan.

  8. PeterS says:

    Perhaps Trump is acting like a complete and utter prick – an even bigger prick than normal – to give the Republican party an excuse to distance itself from him and move towards a non-Trumpist future. In other words, he looks like a self-centered jerk but really he’s acting out of altruism in the best interests of the country. 

    Yeah right. And I’ll believe the GOP is disavowing Trump and Trumpism when I see it.

      • Yancy says:

        Speaking of unicorns, I’m shocked the Trump administration didn’t sign some humongous contract to let Theranos be paid billions up front and then have the debt forgiven in spite of Elizabeth’s inability to fulfill the contract.
        We read about lots of unlikely vaccine delivery systems. People got 10s of millions for sketches lacking details and for rough prototypes of unproven all-in-one devices.
        Just one more cash grab.

  9. BobCon says:

    One thing I’d disagree with is the idea that “Trump decided, on his own, to blow up the bill that Mnuchin had negotiated.”

    I think there has always been a subset within the people Trump talks to who are always pushing him to do the craziest thing possible.

    I don’t think the insider press, which includes the Post reporters behind that piece, Haberman, Gabe Sherman or Olivia Nuzzi, have really captured how Trump operates. I think they are all too wedded to a models of a president who is either a complete loose cannon or someone who is a tool of a few key people.

    I think Trump has always been a networker and remains that way today, and he is someone who is extremely adept at masking who he depends on for counsel, which often changes from issue to issue.

    It’s a terrible way to run a country, but it has advantages for someone veering back and forth between legitimate and criminal activity. And I think he is very savvy at offering glimpses here and there of his networks of information to people in his circle and reporters when it serves his purposes.

    It is probably to get even worse.

    • Ed Walker says:

      I think this is right. Who knows who that POS talks to on his cell phone between tweets? I suspect he talks to people he knows from golf or business, Hannity or some rando Sinclair or OAN talking head, all sworn to secrecy. I’m pretty sure he isn’t capable of talking to anyone who knows stuff about stuff, because he’d have to listen carefully and work to understand, and he doesn’t do that and hasn’t for years. In other words, he talks to people like himself, which is scary.

    • Alan Charbonneau says:

      Yep. Trump is like someone who enjoys repeating urban myths. They feel superior to the average person because they have secret, inside knowledge and know the truth, unlike the unwashed masses.

      Whisper in his ear something he wants to hear and he believes it with everything else being fake news. Sure, sometimes he knows what he brands as fake news is actually reality, other times he is simply a delusional narcissist.

  10. Rugger9 says:

    This has Jarvanka’s (and maybe Miller’s) fingerprints all over it, because of the following:

    1. It was a really bad idea for many reasons well documented elsewhere
    2. It was poorly done, like a reality show plot twist with continuity issues
    3. It was intended to pretend to show empathy by someone who never had it
    4. It was done in deep secret as a video (apparently even Meadows didn’t know it was coming) which leaves the list of suspects as a very short one.

    All this will do is (we hope) harden the D accountability tour to come starting on January 20. Whether Pence tries to go 25th Amendment between now and then is debatable since DJT is really doing what the GOP wants done (especially the Senate GOP) but are too cowardly to do it themselves.

    • subtropolis says:

      You had me until the last part. The Senate Republicans are in disarray right now over Donnie’s tantrum act, and are facing minority status.

      • Rugger9 says:

        Not at all, note that Toomey today was grumbling about how the extra money had to be printed or borrowed (neglecting to explain why he voted for the DJT tax cuts in 2017) so this is nothing new. Even Sasse keeps voting for DJT and GOP priorities, but the GOP doesn’t want their rubes to understand who’s got the shiv.

  11. BroD says:

    “Whether Pence tries to go 25th Amendment between now and then is debatable”
    I don’t think there’s any debate–just wishful thinking.

      • subtropolis says:

        With so many “acting” Cabinet members, it could — would — be argued that their votes don’t count. I suspect that this was the point all along.

  12. readerOfTeaLeaves says:

    This is positively delicious:

    Nevertheless, we’ve reached an important moment, where Trump has turned on virtually all remaining institutional parts of the Republican party, from the judges and justices he installed to the Senators who refused to call him on his attempt to coerce Ukraine.

    It will be interesting to see how many GOP senators want to stick with McConnell in a leadership position after this debacle.

    • PhoneInducedPinkEye says:

      Why wouldn’t they? Under his watch departments were crippled, taxes slashed for the wealthy, and judges churned out at an industrial rate. They may hold the Senate with a historically unpopular president during a bungled natural disaster.

      The GOP aren’t interested in the work of governing, and neither are their voters.

      • readerOfTeaLeaves says:

        I mostly agree with you, definitely with respect to what I see as ‘Plantation Republicans’, which appear to be an artifact of the oil, gas, coal, and pipeline industries.

        Some of the Mountain West Republicans, also based on extracting natural resources, align with the oil-and-gas holdovers, as well as coal, but there appear to be some cracks.

        It looks as if the GOP is cracking in at least two – possibly more – factions. One is energy-based, and also 2nd Amendment-NRA. That is the faction that appears to be aligned with Putin, Saudi’s, and the energy interests.

        But recall that Jon Huntsman was US Ambassador to Russia at one point, and he is probably in communication with Romney. Romney was the most forthright in recognizing the nature of threat that Russia poses. It appears that we have two factions: one that recognizes Russia as a threat, and another (Ron Paul, Ron Johnson) that is Russia’s suppliant.

        The tensions between those two factions appear to be breaking.
        The pro-Russia faction, having funded itself via rubles laundered via the NRA, and the RNC, appears to be still dominant, but energy is not a long term strategy. The smart money is betting against it. (It’s unclear where the soon-to-be-moribund party of the Bushes falls in all of this.)

        Mitch was part of the extractive, energy coalition. Those days are fading.
        The underlying economics of the GOP will be deeply damaged once anonymous LLCs are illegal, and if the feds don’t complete that task, the state AGs are likely to take it on.
        Game. Set. Match.

        • PhoneInducedPinkEye says:

          It’s good that there is some competition to the plantation GOPs, I’m wondering if there are any bellweathers you would watch for shifts in influence?

          I’m really not sure who controls the views of the base at this point, and who they will consider supporting as alternatives. Prior to QAnons explosive growth, I thought it was mostly fox. Now I’m not so sure. Will a base that seemingly organically forms the issues they care about be persuadable in the same top-down manner as 10 years ago? Maybe it is just quarantine crazyness?

  13. Raven Eye says:

    And as been said many times here, what happens when there appears on the scene someone who wants to rule like Trump thought he was ruling, but actually has the intelligence and leadership to put the coup together?

    • Epicurus says:

      Murdoch and his spawn are just hall of fame members of yellow journalism practice. The idea is to sell something, anything really, with sensationalism as its basic strategic mechanism. What the NY Post says Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham et al counter on Fox. His empire is always in balance that way.

  14. K-spin says:

    Kind of interesting question that’s come up where I live (yes,‘across the pond’). It’s being reported that DJT’s neighbours in Florida only agreed to him transgressing their roads, air space, privacy etc, as long as all he was doing was operating a business from Mar-a-Lago, NOT using it as a residence.

    And on that basis, they’re protesting him moving there after 20th Jan. Understandable!

    But if that’s actually the case, and DJT agreed that Mar-a-Lago would never be listed as his ‘residence’, how come he did exactly that, and was able to vote (for himself) in a state he doesn’t live in?

    • P J Evans says:

      I just saw a report that they’re looking for a new residence in the Palm Beach area. I wouldn’t call it news, as it’s still on gossip pages. (The apt they have at Mar-al-Ego is 2000 square feet.)

      • posaune says:

        The issue with Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago has to do with zoning. When DT bought MaL in 1993, it was zoned as a residence and landmarked as historic property. Trump wanted to make it a club, changing the zoning from residential to commercial. The zoning case was heard by the Palm Beach Planning Commission. The opinion by the council approved the new (commercial) zone, with conditions. It allowed land use including hotel, club, golf facilities, and allowed one owner’s residential apartment with occupancy approved for (2) three week stays per calendar year (6 weeks total). This was iterated in the certificate of occupancy. I don’t think Trump was entitled to vote in FL based on the MaL “residence” b/c he didn’t fulfill the requirements of residency. I’ll go hunt for the zoning links.

    • Yancy says:

      Correct on the legal limitations to Trump living at MAL, however –
      His sister Marianne, the federal judge, & her husband, owned the mansion next door to MAL. Around the time Trump was elected, she sold her mansion & its property to DonJr & Eric. Seems like someone else in the family bought another mansion in the hood. I don’t know if Robert had a Palm Beach mansion, but I feel certain if he did, his survivors would feel obligated to sell it to members of Donald’s family.
      Donald & Melania will have plenty of places to couch surf until they close on their own home. (Dammit. I’d prefer they leave.)
      Myfloridacounty.com is a good place to look for public records if you’re interested.

  15. Vinnie Gambone says:

    I’ve watched videos of Proud Boy Goons smacking around passer-bys in Washington DC. When there are counter-protesters screaming in each others face and violence erupts, that’s one thing, but when they crack a couple just walking by, that infuriates me to no end. Of course there’s 20 proud boys standing by laughing, and it’s always the smallest punk doing the hitting. I grew up in South Philadelphia, and should some punk sneak punch somebody’s sister, that does not go unanswered. Ferret face Stone is behind all this. He can’t (won’t)go anywhere without a body guard because he knows he is a pussy and he knows he deserves to get his ass kicked. His punishment is he is stuck in his own smelly skin.
    What strikes me is there are so few proud boys really, yet they get coverage conveying a sense that they are far more numerous than they really are. We need more wide camera shots showing how few their ranks are.
    Make no mistake, just like in Ukraine and elsewhere, somewhere along the line these efforts are being financed. Stone takes his cut and passes it on down the line. Then there’s dopes like Kyle Rittenhouse who gets sucked up into this crap, and now his life is ruined. I would not be surprised if Trump pardons the kid as a nod to Stones violent schemes.
    All things come to the patient tiger. Lets hope true law enforcement is on and they continue to remove the likes of the Wisconsin gang that planned to kidnap and murder the Governor. These are not patriots. They are thugs.

    • vvv says:

      The failed pres cannot pardon Rittenhouse of his state charges (there are no Fed charges), which as of Dec 30 include curfew violations.

  16. Epicurus says:

    Many people get used to a stench after a while so it is no longer stenchy to them. It’s pretty much why Trump was not punished on impeachment. He was stenchy but it was the non-punishers stench also so it was acceptable and not really affecting. Proud Boys and Girls are an internet/cable creation. They are pretty much individual viruses waiting for a host to appear. The host just happens to be the internet. I think it was the Michigan Governor that was the object of their affection.

    OT what is it with Netanyahu? Is he going to have a menage-a-trois with Pollard and Adelson?

  17. Eureka says:

    LOL at Sooners “Bizarro” and “Visage” standing next to each other in the crowd, backs to camera as Lincoln Riley spoke. I hope someone got a screencap of that.

  18. Jenny says:

    Thank you Dr. Wheeler and EW staff for a year of expansive expression.
    May 2021 be more caring, compassionate and connected to and for one another.
    Happy New Year.

    The Kansas City Star apologizes for years of its racist reporting. It is a start and certainly gives me hope for the New Year.

    The truth in Black and white: An apology from The Kansas City Star

    “The Truth in Black and White”: The Kansas City Star Apologizes for History of Racist Coverage
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